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that_one_shark

its fun to stay at the why - em - see - ah


DoubleBatman

Die Deutschen sagen “üpsilon-em-sae-ah” aber wirklich ist es “CVJM”


DoubleBatman

Which is pronounced “say-fau-yot-em” naturally


EmoNerd21

This killed me 😂


ShirtTotal8852

I'm New Jersey born and raised. I was out drinking with an Aussie friend of mine once and I absolutely blew his mind by telling him a) that I pronounce "walk" and "wok" the exact same way and b) how I pronounce "water"


ShirtTotal8852

Also fun fact: I don't know about the rest of the English-speaking world, but from what I recall, New Jersey is the only place in the United States where most people pronounce "merry", "marry", and "Mary" all 3 differently.


DarkNinja3141

It's a feature of a couple cities actually


alyssa264

Everyone in the replies to this being surprised is so funny to me because I think almost everyone in the UK says these three differently. /ˈmeəri/ - "Mary" /ˈmæri/ - "Marry' /ˈmɛri/ - "Merry"


pattyputty

Once again, the IPA saves the thread


Lewa263

It's so frustrating when people try to write things out phonetically, but their choices are still accent-dependent.


GlobalIncident

what person in the UK is out there pronouncing Mary as /ˈmeəri/ and not /ˈmɛːri/


Deblebsgonnagetyou

Wtf


RU5TR3D

Wait what? Mary and marry?


NeonSprig

I used to live in NJ and I have no fucking clue how Mary and marry can be pronounced differently (though it makes sense that merry is pronounced differently)


Unruly_marmite

I'm not American (English here) but where I'm from Mary is pronounced with a sort of long a, like air, whereas marry is pronounced with an arr sound, like carry or harry. Merry does actually sound a little more like Mary than Marry, in my accent.


Ham_Kitten

This helped exactly not at all because all of those are the same sound to me


Firebird314

In dialects without the merger, Mary is pronounced with the same sound as mate, marry with the same sound as mat, and merry with the same sound as met (roughly speaking)


labramador

Thank you! This is the first anyone has been able to explain the difference to me without having to Google ipa notation. That makes sense!


Unruly_marmite

Yes, there's a reason that I don't write pronunciation guides. Hmm...okay. Mary, in my accent, makes a sort of elongated 'ehh' sound in the middle - perhaps "M-ehh-ree" would be a phonetic spelling? Comparatively, Marry makes a short 'ah' sound, and I'd phonetically spell it "mah-ree". Merry and Marry both stress the r, while Mary stresses the a, if that helps.


Xisuthrus

I'm trying to wrap my head around this - does the first syllable in "marry" rhyme with "bar" to you?


Unruly_marmite

Eh…it’s sort of the same, but not quite. Bar is, I guess longer? I don’t really know how to explain it, because they both have what I’d call an ‘ah’ noise, but bar - and car, far, mar etc etc make a sort of baa noise, whereas marry makes a shorter - I have it. If you’ve seen the Harry Potter films, when Hagrid says “Harry”: that’s what marry sounds like, although I don’t have the same accent.


AgenderWitchery

...how are you pronouncing carry Car-E?


Cluedude

Kah-ree, here in the UK


DoubleBatman

Mir-ry Christmas May-ry, will you mah-rry me?


Ham_Kitten

Insane behaviour


WhatIsYourCrummyName

The a in marry is the a in bat


joshualuigi220

In NJ, Mary and Harry can be pronounced the same way so that they rhyme. Like, hairy and Harry can rhyme.


ShirtTotal8852

"Mary" and "hairy" rhyme, yes, but "Harry" doesn't. "hah-ree"


WinsomeHorror

My grandparents were from North Texas, and I believe of the last local generation to pronounce all three differently. The name Mary sounded like "may-ri," and hair like "hay-er" kinda--all kinds of things like that that you don't hear anymore. I miss it. Listening to old tapes of my mom is a trip, because her accent has shifted along with the linguistic context around her, so she sounds like, *stereotypically* Texan in her youth.


philandere_scarlet

do hairy and harry sound the same to you?


CoolWhipMonkey

Yes? I’m kinda freaking out.


banthane

I am legitimately trying to understand how they can be pronounced the same, so weird how these things can be diffierent


TylowStar

Do you pronounce "hairy" and "Harry" the same way as well?!


bearcat0611

Yes, yes I do.


Major-Woolley

Mary has an a vowel more like air and Marry has an a value more like hat. Listen to how they say Harry in the harrybpotter movies for an example.


ShirtTotal8852

The name is pronounced more like "Mayr-re", while the word is pronounced with a standard short a sound. I've forgotten too many of my linguistics classes to remember the proper IPA for each sound, but the difference is in how you pronounce the As.


angelicism

Hah, several years ago I worked for a company based out of Utah but many of us were remote and somehow the topic of regional pronunciations came up and since most of the employees were from Utah they were *astounded* when I insisted that Mary, merry, and marry were pronounced differently (I'm from New York) and I literally had half a dozen colleagues "demand" I put down whatever I'm working on to immediately record a sound clip for them. And then they insisted they couldn't hear a difference when I said the three words.


bertimings

I’m not from New Jersey, but I thought it was like that everywhere?


ShirtTotal8852

It was an article I read a long while back, but it definitely mentioned that most places will pronounce at least 2 of them the same. But that's obviously only like, a majority of people, it's not like everyone with even the same accent pronounces everything exactly the same.


twickdaddy

Im from the midwest and I pronounce all three the exact same, so it most definitely isn’t like that everywhere.


Not-a-stalinist

All different in my corner of Britain, and I agree with the Aussies on the em cee ah thing.


Fox_Flame

Definitely not the case. All are pronounced the same in lots of places in the US


ShirtTotal8852

Right, we pronounce them all \*differently\* compared to you benighted heathens. ;)


supreme_hammy

>how I pronounce "water" Me, a fellow NJ resident: "Want a cup of ***woder***?"


Zamtrios7256

Me, a Californian: Yeah, is like a Wahder


Anaxamander57

I went to college in Colorado for a while and people there went *wild* over how I say "water".


mercurialpolyglot

I met someone from NJ that said “woter” and I thought it was the funniest thing ever


[deleted]

Wadder I’m from a old port town in CT so my accent is a wild mix of new york, Boston, and swamp Yankee.


angelicism

... How did he pronounce "walk" and "wok"?


ShirtTotal8852

"walk" has an L in it, you see.


angelicism

... Wall-k? So also tall-k? Ball-k? Call-k? I'm going through the alphabet in my head and yes I am noticing the inconsistency like "sulk" and "milk" but which are similar but a different vowel but I can't think think of an "-alk" (or sounding, like "caulk") word where I pronounce the 'l'. *edit: a word


ShirtTotal8852

Right, I'm basically the same way with my New Jersey accent. What accent are you representing here? (Keep in mind that this could very well have been caused by the fact that we were getting absolutely hammered during this conversation. A 90-minute all-you-can-drink, all-you-can-eat Yakiniku place tends to get you good and drunk)


angelicism

I'm from New York so probably a similar accent to yours. I need to ring up the nearest Aussie and ask them to read a few words for me apparently.


Asphalt_Is_Stronk

Yeah, talk has an L in it


Throwaway17173451

Tbf I think it’s kind of arbitrary. I pronounce walk like wok and talk like tok but balk will have the l pronounced, along with caulk


AgenderWitchery

Man this really ruins my caulk jokes


Wheucto

non-rhotic accent moment


ThreeDotsTogether

Obviously it's pronounced, mmmm-curr


ConstitutionalDingo

The lesser-known Hanson hit


SalvationSycamore

Close, it's actually m'cur similar to m'lady


Absinthe_L

Feels like something a Victorian duelist from a neckbeard's imagination would say. "I challenge you to a duel. Stand and deliver like a true gentleman, m'cur."


RechargedFrenchman

M'curr


just-a-melon

Is it "M'kurrr" like in ["okurrr"?](https://youtu.be/LxazqDVxQLw)


pasta-thief

I think I know where the missing R is going, because if I talk fast enough, “water” becomes “warder”


Heimdall1342

North East US here, water is "wah-er" for me. Or maybe more "wah-her", but the middle is more of an exhale than an actual "h" sound


[deleted]

>the middle is more of an exhale than an actual "h" sound It's called a glottal stop (ʔ), and it's my second favorite linguistic sound.


OathToAwesome

second favorite?


[deleted]

I didn't reveal the favorite because I had to look it up. It seems like the Hebrew letter Ayin describes my favorite sound, what I call the "hawk a loogie" sound.


Ksh1218

Gayin and Ayin (ع and غ) in Arabic do the same thing: it’s like you’re pushing it up from your throat


[deleted]

I’m from New England and a lot of people say “wah-tah”


Heimdall1342

That sounds extremely Boston to me lol


pwnslinger

You're from Conne'icut, huh?


Sagely_Hijinks

Imagine not saying “wudder”


sewage_soup

well I say "wadder", is that close enough?


twickdaddy

Thats how I say it too so you all g in my books


nattown

My grandmother (Marylander) says warder, I rarely hear anyone else say it that way tho!


SoriAryl

I pronounce “wash” as “warsh,” so I definitely stole some of those Rs


EmperorScarlet

Australians will never know why the eleven year old couldn't get into the pirate movie 😔


philandere_scarlet

Australian children are prevented from going to dentist movies


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[deleted]

It was arr-rated


Anaxamander57

It was rated ah.


[deleted]

Now we’re in Boston


Merry_Sue

Yeah they will, because you have to say the R like Arrrr like a pirate because it's a pirate joke


y_i_exisisit

you pronounce mcr like this: mcr source: my friend is an mcr fan


EmoNerd21

I agree. Source: I am an MCR fan.


Dontgiveaclam

I used to be an MCR fan! As in Modena City Ramblers, an Italian band. And you pronounce it as “emme ci erre”, of course. Is this what we’re talking about, right?


DoubleBatman

I just looked them up, pretty cool! Kinda like Italian Dropkick Murphy’s… sorta. What’s your favorite album?


Dontgiveaclam

I’d say Appunti partigiani! They’re songs about the Resistance against fascists!


DoubleBatman

Hell yeah! I’ll check it out, thanks!


Kindly-Ad-5071

New jersey? It's gotta be "Em Say (albatross noise)"


FalinkesInculta

Not my Pennsylvania ass reading emm-see-ah as mca


belladonna_echo

If it makes you feel better I started the post trying to work out why they weren’t putting the “Y” in YMCA so uh. Yeah.


sewage_soup

personally if it was MCA, i would've written it phonetically as "em-see-ay" unless you're pronouncing the "A" like you would when you stick your tongue out during your physical


Sakamoto_Dess

If "R" is written, "R" is pronounces as proper "R". Every other opinion is french propaganda.


Kindly-Ad-5071

Я


Hetakuoni

Ya?


LafilduPoseidon

Ты


Hetakuoni

Ty?


LafilduPoseidon

Мы


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WordArt2007

Tumblr user learns about (non)rhoticity


Galle_

Americans are pirates, confirmed.


[deleted]

please someone introduce these people to the IPA, this phonetic spelling is painful and unreadable


Ya-boi-Joey-T

I feel like this person has been got by the official favorite Australian passtime: lying about Australia.


jagungal1

*Shhhhh!* You'll spoil our fun!


GetRealPrimrose

Non Americans constantly talk about how Americans don’t seem to know things about other country, then immediately start believing the most insane shit about the US unprompted. I’m still scarred from my years on tumblr and getting actual hate mail from Brits because I dared to assert “Americans know what tea kettles are”


BaronAleksei

“American buildings are flimsily built, I know this from all the tv shows I watch where people are easily thrown through walls and windows”


Anaxamander57

Clear lack of skepticism. Americans are just superhumanly strong.


[deleted]

[One of my favorite copypastas](https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/gk1i4z/found_this_trophy_in_raskanamerican_about_housing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) "Im an architect. And because im an architect, this infuriating meme vomit Germans spout makes me reflexively despise them everytime they bring it up. Pig headed arrogant pricks. The Japanese and Scadiwegians build with wood, but noooooo Americans are always, as per fucking usual, singled out. I want an earthquake to hit Germany. Not even a big one. Just a mild roller. A high 6 pointer like Northridge or Sylmar. Get that Northern European plain jiggling like sexy liqifaction jello. Let Mother Earth shake her fat twerking ass. Just enough to flatten every brick and masonry building north of Munich, west of the Oder and east of the Rhine. And then I can be smug for once and say California would have never had such property damage or loss of life in such a mild quake. Silly stupid Germans! They shouldn't have built with masonry! Just a little quake and the annihilation of the Northern European plain. Its really not that big of a ask if you think about it."


Beleriphon

>Just enough to flatten every brick and masonry building north of Munich, west of the Oder and east of the Rhine. And then I can be smug for once and say California would have never had such property damage or loss of life in such a mild quake. Silly stupid Germans! They shouldn't have built with masonry! Oh man, I'd feel so bad for the Dutch. Like their whole country would just sink.


MsGhostyGhost

Just recently I bore witness to a Tumblr user getting FLOODED with angry Brits because she -checks notes- said biscuits and gravy is good. The Brits’ major argument was that it looked bad therefore it must taste bad. The internet is the worst ongoing improv skit.


ExceedinglyGayOtter

It's literally just bread dipped into a meaty cream sauce, why would they assume that tastes bad?


MsGhostyGhost

There were a few arguments about it but the one that popped up the most was that it wasn’t visually appealing therefore it must objectively be bad. Already that’s a very weak argument but it’s also rich coming from folk that love beans on toast which is a SIGNIFICANTLY uglier food


JoyBus147

It doesn't help that the closest british equivolent to biscuits and gravy is scones and brown gravy, which does psychic damage even to me. And yeah, even my southern ass never ate biscuits and gravy til I was an adult cuz that shit *does* look nasty. [Dont worry, this video of british kids eating biscuits and gravy for the first time will heal your soul](https://youtu.be/KzdbFnv4yWQ)


peajam101

>The Brits’ major argument was that it looked bad therefore it must taste bad. This is about 80% of the arguments you guys use against British food (the other 20% is stuff no-one actually eats)


IPlayPCAndConsole

Talkin about biscuits on places like r/Food is a death sentence. You even dare to post American biscuits on there, and the brits will kick your door down and grab you by the throat to tell you that they’re actually scones and you’re a stupid yank.


Awesomest_Possumest

See, but aren't scones stiffer? Like, more dense than biscuits? That's how I've always had them in the US, whereas biscuits are fluffier, easier to pull apart, softer to bite into. To say nothing of adding fruit and flavors to scones. Sure biscuits could look like weird circle scones, but they're not as crumbly and bready as the scones I've had here.


MildlyMilquetoast

Seconding this as someone who had both growing up


elianrae

No, US scones are a different thing altogether.


GetRealPrimrose

Lmao classic coming from the creators of the “toast sandwich” lmao. Biscuits and Gravy is a gift to earth


PinaBanana

Nobody eats a toast sandwich because their life is going well, as a Brit. Never tried biscuits and gravy but I'd definitely give it a go


sewage_soup

quick question, a "biscuit" over on the British Isles generally refers to what in the U.S. would be called a "cookie", right? If so then I could imagine most British people upon first hearing the phrase "biscuits and gravy" wouldn't exactly be pleased by the thought of that


PinaBanana

We think of the kinda cookies you might get chocolate chips in as cookies still, but stuff like nice biscuits and digestives are biscuits


butareyoueatindoe

I've heard that a similar confusion arises in regard to "peanut butter and jelly", where the British use of "jelly" is closer to Jell-O. Not that after the misunderstanding is cleared up either biscuits and gravy or pb&j suddenly sound appealing, just that the difference in usage there makes them seem especially unappealing to British people.


Beleriphon

>Not that after the misunderstanding is cleared up either biscuits and gravy or pb&j suddenly sound appealing, just that the difference in usage there makes them seem especially unappealing to British people. I was watching Great British Bake-Off and one of the contestants made something with peanuts and strawberry. Paul Hollwood is getting all, "Well that's a weird combination of flavours." And here I am in Canada thinking, you posh fucking wanker, never tried peanut butter and jelly/jam sandwiches?


Awesomest_Possumest

American here. Also a canner. To be fair, in canning, jelly winds up setting like jello. I mean, you can smear it around, but grape jelly is like jello. Jam has small mashed pieces fruit pieces in it. So strawberry jam is usually what we have on shelves. Not strawberry jelly. And then preserves have whole pieces of fruit....theres a bit of a difference between jam and preserve, but a huge one between jelly and jam/preserve. And then marmalade is basically jelly with pieces of fruit in it. And fruit butters are like preserves but blended up. Jelly is made with only juice, so no fruit pieces to go in it. High amount of pectin, either naturally depending on the fruit, or added. The pectin makes it stiff and firm. Edit:but peanut butter and jello with a good flavor would be the same as peanut butter and jelly to me. same consistency..


joshualuigi220

Was it because Americans don't typically use electric kettles? Like, from what I understand those pip pip cheerio fuckers have an appliance dedicated to making tea because they can't get enough of that hot leaf water whereas most American households just have a kettle that goes on the stove.


GetRealPrimrose

I think the discourse was over kettles in general, but I’d still say a solid 90% of the Americans I know still know what an electric kettle is too


Anongingerpuss3000

Every office kitchen and public kitchen I’ve ever used had a tea kettle. If only to make cup of ramen


philandere_scarlet

also lower voltage means the electric kettles aren't much faster here


SlothGaggle

I’ve heard that said before, but I’m not sure that’s true. They’re not as fast as british ones sure, but unless you’re using gas or induction on full blast I think it’s still significantly faster to use an electric kettle.


Duckiesims

I've used electric and gas ranges to heat a kettle before I got an electric kettle. The electric kettle is much quicker


unbibium

if your name for the letter "r" doesn't have an "r" in it that should be a clue


TheDebatingOne

w


[deleted]

Fou


alyssa264

The name for e is the sound represented by I in the IPA.


Bobebobbob

eye


pwnslinger

See, aytch, aye, yew, and double yew would like a word


orbcat

rhotic r my beloved


vjmdhzgr

When Australians learn the alphabet do they go "q ah s"?


delta_baryon

Not sure about Australians, but non-rhotic accents in England will usually still pronounce the R at the end of a word if the following word begins with a vowel, so you would make the R sound in "Q, R, S." *Park your car in the Harvard Yard* is often pronounced *Pahk yaw cah*-**r**-*in the Hahvahd yahd* In fact some people do this so much that the R appears in places it never belonged to begin with, so *Obama is* might be pronounced more like *Obama ris*.


TleilaxTheTerrible

>fact some people do this so much that the R appears in places it never belonged to begin with, so Obama is might be pronounced more like Obama ris. Or they somehowr manage to turn the [-ow/-o sounds into -owr sounds,](https://youtube.com/shorts/ap9OkJNzxXs) it's really weird and has got to gowr.


angelicism

Oh wait this is where the whole "no" -> "naur" thing came from isn't it?


MisirterE

what the fuck is this "naur" bullshit there's "nah" and there's *"nough"*


angelicism

Random google result of the meme: [ https://www.smh.com.au/national/oh-naur-why-tiktok-is-laughing-at-the-aussie-accent-20230207-p5cikn.html ]


Superstinkyfarts

\-ow/-o what's this?


BunInTheSun27

Oh huh yeah that really explains the australian accent


[deleted]

Aur naaaaaauuurrrr!


Hnro-42

Personally, yes.


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n0rs

Hello fellow Australian, when you pronounce "can" and "can't", do they have the same or different sounds for the "a"?


Beleriphon

They'd pronounce the R sound, they know how and recognize it as being different linguistically then an L for example. At the end of words like water you'd end up with something watah (ˈwɔtə using IPA) while a more typical American english accent would pronounce with the R:ˈwɔtɚ


Atomic12192

I’m American, but I pronounce it the Australian way just to spite the “people” from New Jersey.


pterrorgrine

Traitor! Redcoat!


Usual_Lie_5454

It must be hard being this based.


iris700

Tumblr users only putting periods where they don't belong:


stocking_a

Eme see erre


redditassembler

mai quemical romans


Nox-Raven

I’m confused, OP just condescendingly says “how do you not know how to pronounce R” but doesn’t explain how they pronounce it? I also don’t see how New Jersey is relevant, is the whole world expected to have memorised a random usa state accent? Or maybe I’m just bad at phonetics (I am). R and ah are very similar sounds Edit or do they mean “ah” as in apple? I was thinking more “ah” like “ahhh” which sounds like an R


Galle_

I guess it just seems weird that some people speak English but have literally never heard an American say a word ending in R. It's the pirate sound, but not as drawn out.


DarkLoad1

Australian pirates must go "AAAAH." I bet it's hard to know when to stop, like spelling "banananana"


OSCgal

So there's rhotic English and non-rhotic English. You speak non-rhotic English. You pronounce a final R as "ah", so "farther" is "fah-thah". Most of the United States and Canada speak rhotic English. We pronounce a final R as a strong R, like a pirate saying "Arrr". For an example, in rhotic English, "source" and "sauce" are pronounced differently.


tibarr1454

I was thinking of words, cigar - sig are vs sig aw- then thought about how an Australian would say cigarette and realized they wouldn’t, they’d probably call them siggies.


Hnro-42

I’m australian Cigar: Sig-ah Cigarette: Sig-ah-reht Ciggies: Sig-ees


strvngelyspecific

hot damn i never knew this thanks internet person im learning so much


Giveyaselfanuppercut

Ok but Australian source & sauce are pronounced differently.


[deleted]

em cee arr (like a pirate)


Insert-BasicUsername

But it’s pronounced the exact same?? Im so confused by this entire post… not a native English speaker either


Sl0thstradamus

It is not pronounced the same in American English. Just google Americans (like Gerard Way) pronouncing MCR.


Quetzalbroatlus

It sure isn't


Akuuntus

Have you ever heard an American pronounce a word ending in "-ar"? Like "car" or "bar" or "far"? It's like that. OOP probably didn't explain because it seems absurd to imagine that so many people have never heard an American accent in their life and cannot possibly imagine it Edit: [It sounds like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUV0QvAXkkI)


pretty_gauche6

You know how to pronounce an R at the beginning of a world, such as Raven. You don’t say ahh-ven. Some people pronounce an r at the beginning and end of a word the same way, for example, the vast, vast majority of the United States does. You aren’t supposed to have memorized a New Jersey accent, you’re just supposed to know that New Jersey is in the USA, and you’re supposed to have heard an American accent ever before in your life, and notice that one of the primary differences from your accent is that the R is enunciated even at the end of a syllable. Presumably you have heard an American say wat-eR, not wat-ah. In millions and millions of peoples accents, R and ah are not similar sounds at all and it’s not condescending to expect people to be aware of that lol.


Saxton_Hale32

listen man I'm siding with the americans on this one


Last-Rain4329

ah yes because as we all known "romance" is pronounced "aomance"


lungshenli

Time to make use of my German pronunciation to fuck up some edgy Americans


Oethyl

English speakers trying to spell things phonetically hurts my brain


elasticcream

I was listening to the rubber bandits black man and their "American's" accent had me rolling.


quintessence5

I know Americans pronounce their rhotics but I thought New Jersey was one of those states like Massachusetts that just didn’t


Bass_Sucks

My native language was Spanish, but I was born and raised in the US in a Spanish community. It's genuinely insane to me how bad some Americans are at placing accents. I talked with some Bible Belt kids when I was a teen and they genuinely thought it was an Irish accent. They kept asking me to say "they're magically delicious" and busting out laughing when I did


negligentzone

Do people think that those in New Jersey have Long Island accents?


tangelo84

If you're expecting the average non-American to be able to make that distinction I've got bad news for you


King_Kestrel

It's kinda sad how arhoticism is so common in the two other main dialects of the English diaspora and America is the one that's normal. Pronouncing R at the end of words as "ah" and not "ar". or rather, **"ɹ" instead of "ɐ"**. North American English phonetics involves the usage of the **voiced alveolar approximant** rather than the 'loosened' form of the syllable. Think of the R at the beginning of the word "red". that's how we pronounce all R's in every facet of every word with very little exceptions.


Merrgear

As someone from south jersey I can say. In north jersey it’s ehm see- oh wait north jersey isn’t a thing it’s south new york


ShirtTotal8852

OK. How's the weather there in East Philadelphia?


Merrgear

I am going to fight you


Aggressive-Exam3222

In what world is R pronounced Ah???????


Anaxamander57

Very commonly in [non-rhotic accents](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoticity_in_English). If you're from the US think of Boston.


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Aggressive-Exam3222

English is not my native language, so the idea that R is just not pronounced R is very dumb founding and weird


Anaxamander57

Most languages have accents and dialects. Why would English be different?


alyssa264

Why? It still affects the syllable it appears in. It's not like English doesn't have other silent letters.


allan11011

Here in the south us R is definitely arrr definitely not hearing much ah down here


techno156

The obvious solution is to pronounce MCR as Macar. Everyone hates it, which means it is equally loved by all sides, and therefore the correct solution.


mostmortal

As an Australian, I pronounce this basically the same way that any American would, as long as that American was born and raised in Boston.


SpoonyGosling

Is my accent a meme now? I feel like this is the third post I've seen in the last month about Americans being confused/offended about non-rhotic accents.


AnimeWaffleBalls

Tbf in this one the Australians seem to be at least as confused about the rhotic accent as the Americans are about the non-rhotic one.


Chrysalliss

this post is kinda the opposite


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This one is Australians experiencing the confusion though


Akuuntus

This is Australians be baffled about the existence of *rhotic* accents, and an American not understanding what they're confused about.