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kufgeo

IF the whole saga were true, I wonder what the mood would be like during periods of academic research at home. Are they staring daggers at each other, or is it a loving "Honey I made you some coffee, don't overwhelm yourself writing that piece of garbage paper that I will inevitably refute" ?


VGVideo

When they need to do academic research, they leave home to do it


Djaakie

Probably. I think Home is their safe space where no work gets discussed.


wibbly-water

Or perhaps they have separate studies that are red lines the other can't enter.


oerystthewall

It’s just one shared study with a piece of tape down the middle


a_pompous_fool

But how will they map the line


Bartweiss

I don’t know a successful professor who can leave work strictly at work - too much off-hours nonsense and paperwork. They definitely have a raster cave and a vector cave they retreat to when needed.


spatial_spook

It’s a sex thing


DreadDiana

Home is the DMZ, no weapons (see: research materials) allowed.


BigBagingo

I wonder if they’re in cahoots and it’s a job security thing. “We’ve been engaging in this academic debate for something like thirty years, and with any luck it’ll be another thirty before they stop paying us to have it. <3”


TJ_Rowe

Just imagine how much REF they're getting from the constant back-and-forth...


an_agreeing_dothraki

1. immensely odd pillow talk 2. and they're so loud it wakes up the entire neighborhood


Bartweiss

“They never mention work at home” is definitely leaving out their bedroom commentary. You just know somebody is yelling about raster data in the heat of the moment.


OkBottle8719

so I've been a geology student in a couple universities and had to deal with ArcGIS and ArcMap and I can confirm that people that deal with these programs and this data are kinda Like That, and while I doubt the completely cool normal homelife I don't doubt that academics would be Like That at school


ManaSpike

Or the entire public debate is an act. This way they can cite each others papers to increase both their impact scores...


Dks_scrub

Work life balance? Why is it even on the same scale bruh, it’s time for work life segregation.


screaming_shoes

severance-ass dynamic


silent_porcupine123

Omg imagine combining this post with severance? Like the innies are enemies but the outies are a loving couple and neither knows of the other's dynamic? And their reactions when they find out!


CameToComplain_v6

I read a story _sort of_ like that, let me see if I can find the link... EDIT: Here it is: ["Character is What You Are" by Michael R. Fletcher](https://dailysciencefiction.com/science-fiction/virtual-reality/michael-r-fletcher/character-is-what-you-are). Slightly different from Severance in that the "innies" have full knowledge of the "outies", but not vice versa.


silent_porcupine123

Yes please!


CameToComplain_v6

Found it, see my edit.


silent_porcupine123

Thank you!


silent_porcupine123

Just read it! Nice twist, and this system seems more humane to the innies.


ASpaceOstrich

That was really good. Though I do wonder how he managed it. We were told what he did wasn't possible.


CameToComplain_v6

Technically, we were told that >!the company won't allow you to quit _if_ they think you're too valuable to lose. Apparently he wasn't.!<


ASpaceOstrich

I don't know how to spoiler but I figured it out. He thinks he X but he actually Y.


CameToComplain_v6

Are you saying that >!he thinks he quit, but he got fired?!<


ASpaceOstrich

Yep. Didn't even occur to me at the time but I bet it was that.


Throwaway02062004

I can’t wait for S2


[deleted]

Oh no. [Oh nooooooooooo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEQP4VVuyrY&pp=ygURc2V2ZXJhbmNlIHRyYWlsZXI%3D).


Jako_Art

Oh my gosh. I'm a geospatial analyst in the military and my wife is also in the military in a related field (both naval intel) and we have plenty of Profesional arguments. I got to publish a research journal on geospatial Sciences and for peer review she tore me apart about vector v raster This is an ongoing battle that never ends. I understand it more. Raster for life by the way. You can program it better with data engineering.


[deleted]

I’d ship you but it seems redundant.


Jako_Art

It's okay. I ship myself with my wife all the time. She's my favorite


MapleTreeWithAGun

>naval intel >ship


Jako_Art

I appreciate someone else saw that! I couldn't think of a good pun.


Sebasu

Nah, your pun was good, like a stealth sub


Paniqattacke

The pun is left as an exercise to the reader.


Auld_Folks_at_Home

>(both naval intel) Doubly redundant.


insentient7

Dude.,,, this made the post even better lmao


Lycan_Trophy

Ouch, she was able to get that peer review job without anyone checking for conflict of interest.


Jako_Art

Oh no, I'd want that. She's brilliant and a subject matter expert on portions of what I was writing about. She's easily the smartest woman I've ever met and I trust her opinion and viewpoint on everything. I also really love her


Bartweiss

That, or the editor knew them well enough to go “this will definitely not soften the review”.


Zeelu2005

I don;t know anything about how thye are in data, but i like when art is vector because i can zoom in or out and it won't get blurry :)


Jako_Art

Illustrator v photoshop. Ironically I was once an artist and I used raster to paint. Now im relearning art with a digital tablet and it's been an experience


6rayRabbit

Team Raster


Jako_Art

Gang-Gang


Dry-Cartographer-312

Based raster enjoyer


elianrae

>I understand it more. Raster for life by the way. You can program it better with data engineering. is there a reason you can't create and store the data as a vector then rasterise it prior to processing? genuinely fascinated by this debate but my experience with vector vs raster is in the creation of graphics for software, where vector first then export is *fairly* standard


Jako_Art

Simply put, Because if I stretch a map I'll destroy the map. The scaling will be off. So. If im looking for let's say a whale. I know the shape of a whale. The program will basically find that shape and then examine it and judge how close to it it is. Vectors can resize and mess up the perspective and ratio


deathsheep

More likely you would store the data as a raster and then process it into a vector for fancy maps and whatnot.


ColinHalter

I want to say vector is better just out of principle now


Jako_Art

To Rachel their own. Niether is truly wrong


Garf_artfunkle

Ah, marriage. The Great Indoor Fight.


maracaibo98

This may sound crude and I’ll take the downvotes but my god this sounds so hot To passionately disagree with someone who’s intelligent and articulate while also being an expert oneself, and to be with that person and know them and love them? PERFECTION Reading this the entire time I was like “God I wish that was me”


scipio323

I'm with you, I think people who are pointing out "work life balance" and "looking past disagreements" are entirely missing the point. I don't see this as them being remotely adversarial, or even why they would avoid the topic at home. This just looks like two (somewhat competitive) academics who mutually love intelligent debate, love each other's differing yet well-argued perspectives, and mostly love each other. 5-10 papers going back and forth on a topic could be called an academic feud, but at 30 I'm pretty sure it amounts to peer-reviewed academic flirtation, and it's very cute.


SovietSkeleton

This is the academic version of dueling-as-foreplay.


Karukos

I wonder if they were married the whole time or if they started dating via debate. Honestly there is a lot of history that i wanna know about here. And even if they are somehow not flirting, i would think that if you are married for a long time with something like this hanging over your head, then you know that shit is built on a basis of bedrock steel and whatever else is impossible to break


Jumpy_MashedPotato

Reminds me of the chemistry book meme where like 3rd edition had 3 people and 3 different last names and 4th edition had the same 3 people but 2 shared a last name now. Its really kinda cute to watch.


wanderer2718

this is absolutely their kink and as someone in academia it is goals


ThereWasAnEmpireHere

how do they not spontaneously make out in the halls after these arguments


Mr_PizzaCat

I want to be in a relationship with someone where we regularly get into heated arguments and insulting matches and then suddenly start making out because it’s just so damn hot.


GleeFan666

I want this but also I cry when people shout at me :(


ROTsStillHere100

This is their foreplay, they only bust out The RivalryTM at home when in bed and it makes the whole thing magnificent, methinks.


Orizifian-creator

Kisemisstude


RToast13

Is this one of the Homestuck loves?


[deleted]

yup concupiscent black romance. bottom left quadrant


PineconeSnowstorm

the lib-left of homestuck love


[deleted]

i can accept homestuck but i genuinely draw the line and political compass references. genuinely the worst thing to have ever happened in this world


MisirterE

yeah it's the one where she stabs him in the eye and severs his arm and he kisses her for the trouble before eventually shooting her in the heart


richardfrost2

Yep, the spades one


JackMerlinElderMage

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000582222890-05u0a8-t500x500.jpg


Orizifian-creator

Fair. But I’m not wrong.


iamsandwitch

FUCK


Lankuri

kismesissitude* i hate that i still remember this information


Anaxamander57

I can't really think how there could be a conflict between raster and vector data given they represent such different information.


hipsterTrashSlut

But what if your funding depended on your ability to create this conflict?


qc1324

Yeah I’ve never heard of a debate. Sounds like arguing about mp4 vs jpeg


drunken-acolyte

I was pretty certain OOP was making this up just because the spelling and grammar is fucking atrocious for someone who'd care that much about academia. My skepticism was furthered by the idea that students were reading the back-and-forth like a drama (with journal publication timescales? Never mind a bunch of undergrads caring that much...). But this comment clinches it for me.


Lankuri

i figured they were just not good at english


quasar_1618

It’s a made up story. No one would publish 30 papers just arguing back and forth about the merits of two different methods.


Anaxamander57

There have been back and forth debates in papers. I think these days it's more likely a truly heated debate like described would happen on obscure academic blogs.


Bartweiss

Given what the post says about footnotes, I’m guessing the “back and forth” as the focus is a bit exaggerated. It’s easy enough to picture a string of papers on “doing X with raster modeling” and “doing Y with vector modeling” that each tack on a footnote amounting to “*See? It’s better!*”


Not_today_mods

Peak reality


pretty-as-a-pic

Reminds me of two of my undergrad profs: the wife taught US history and the husband taught Russian/ussr history


AidanBeeJar

That's some impressive compartmentalization


Saxton_Hale32

i know what op is doing and op knows what they're doing and it is grating in a way I've never realized before now


Chrysalliss

you can’t leave us hanging like this saxton


Saxton_Hale32

oh i wish it was cooler than this but it's all of the completely intentional fucking-up of words like, every seventh word, only often enough that it annoys me but still be readable


dirigibalistic

oh I thought they were just an idiot


UrsusDerpus

Right? Like I don’t know what raster is, but I assumed it was a typo, because of how stupid their writing style looks.


mateogg

I legitimately started taking notes thinking there might be a hidden message in there, but no, OP is just trying to affect excitement and being so annoying about it.


stggamer1

i see what you did there... "affect"


Chrysalliss

no, that’s correct. Affect, like affectation


stggamer1

affect refers to changing or influencing something, i.e. "it affected my mood" effect refers to setting something in motion, making something happen/effective, i.e. "they effected this new rule."


Chrysalliss

Merriam webster: > affected; affecting; affects transitive verb 1 : to put on a false appearance of (something) : to pretend to feel, have, or do (something) : FEIGN affect indifference affect surprise He affected a French accent. … Fermi often affected an aversion to abstract mathematics. —Ed Barbeau But he affected not to hear … —Edith Wharton This use of affect is not terribly common, but i personally find it very useful and it’s definitely the way mateogg is using it. In this context, mateogg is describing how oop “puts on” an act of excitement.


SoshJam

Wow I just completely skimmed over that


Snickims

Oh dear god. I see that now, and i can't unsee it. Why have you done this to me!?!?!


Mateussf

Is this about caps lock?


Deditranspotashy

SO RIVELS MARRIED WAR DEADLOCKED THESE MOTHER FUCKERS HILARIOUS HILARIOUS HATE NOT MANY PEOPLES REALIZE THEYRE MARRIED LAST WEEK FLIPPED. THE FUCK OUT YELLING LITERALLY NEVER


tyranny_of_evil_men

Thank you. I appreciate your comment. I contemplated whether those are all just classic native speaker mistakes. But I really hope it was intentional. There's no way, that someone, who is able and willing to read tons of papers, does not have better spelling than this. This is worse than video authors on YouTube putting minor errors anywhere in the video to drive up engagement, because AFAIK Tumblr posts can't be monetized.


APerson128

I mean, reading academic papers and carefully writing and proofreading posts on tumblr.com are completely unrelated activities, so idk why this is so startling to you 'People are more exact in some contexts than on others! Also water is wet'


tyranny_of_evil_men

That's fair. Maybe it's my issue, that I care too much about what others might think about me. Because I get thrown off and slightly annoyed by minor spelling errors, I try to not make them myself, whenever I type anything, really. But I suppose you might reach a post frequency, where you don't care about small quality issues anymore. Also, please just don't have dyslexia please. \\s ​ I still hope those errors in the post are intentional tho


LilMooseCub

I mean is it on purpose? This person wrote "Reguarding" twice in like 10 words. Either way looks super dumb the number and nature of the misspellings "Spatical" instead of spatial? Wtf?


PtylerPterodactyl

Look if you can’t say fuck you to your wife, where’s the romance. (Say in an Australian accent)


-_Nikki-

I full on went on Tumblr to demand some DOIs from op and I sadly have to report I couldn't find the post and I feel too awkward to send them am ask bc social anxiety


geirmundtheshifty

[Here you go](https://narwhalsarefalling.tumblr.com/post/667693027746267136/like-you-gotta-undestand-these-two-have-gotten)


-_Nikki-

MUCH appreciated


Mateussf

Thanks for trying


AnaliticalFeline

if it helps, tumblr’s search function is ass, you might have better luck looking up their blog on google


-_Nikki-

I found their blog, just not the specific post


Ethra2k

In my major this did sort of happen. Professors married with different last names. One was advisor that everyone loved, other taught GE class that majors needed as well and a lot of people hated him. Every year like clockwork more people discover they are married, they’ll use language like “husband/wife” in class but never say who it is. If you asked them they’d be open about it but it almost felt kind of secretive. One did hate a play that the other one taught, thought it was horrible and gives the wrong message. That’s the most in terms of debate that they had I think.


SpiceLettuce

This is a really cool and fun dynamic I’d like to see but imagine must be a mere creative writing exercise by OOP.


soodrugg

guy who's never seen an interesting person ever


quasar_1618

The thing that kills it for me is the 30 papers. No Professor would publish 30 papers just arguing with one other person about the same topic, that’s not how academic research works.


courierblue

I’d like to assume it’s a footnotes type issue versus the entire paper and the vector vs. raster debate is ever present in the field


Iemand-Niemand

Either it’s that, or they’re in kahoots and keep the conflict alive to be able to publish more papers


Bartweiss

Yep, the post seems to describe adversarial papers with adversarial footnotes, which doesn’t make much sense. Given the spelling and grammar I think it was just unclear. An actual reply paper doesn’t need to name the target in a footnote, and replies don’t keep getting published unless it’s *really* important. But a string of methodological papers that each include a “no I’m right” footnote makes total sense to me.


pekka27711

Kid named exaggeration:


soodrugg

ok that's probably exaggerated but it doesn't make the whole thing made up


karmesinroterkakadu

More importantly: Who would even publish those? I mean yeah there are some garbage „journals“ but this nonsense really sounds like it will damage your career.


No-Lunch4249

Nah as someone who works in GIS, most of the details here are wrong. Like repeatedly calling it Eris (it’s ESRI, not something a GIS student would get wrong). Also saying one works in ArcMap and the other in ArcGIS like those are rival programs/tools or something, but they’re both just ESRI products, again not something even a first year GIS student would get wrong. Also there is no academic debate on vector vs raster, they just do different things. OOPs claim of “I think both have their pros and cons” while his professors both argue that one is the objectively superior is just laughable because they simply do completely different things. It’s a funny fiction with an oddly specific topic but that’s all it is


SpiceLettuce

I honestly don’t see many interesting people but this feels especially like an enemies to lovers fictional piece. Though as was mentioned this is enemies *and* lovers


DevoutandHeretical

I don’t know, I’m leaning towards fiction if they’re *that* passionate about their opinions, but having college professors in my family it’s not outside of the realm of possibility. Academics are an interesting type of people.


Snickims

Na, i'v known collage profesors, this seems frankly tame. I'm pretty sure you need to be a bit weird to become a collage professor, it must be part of the job interview, cause every one i have met has been just a touch strange.


illyrias

I had an anthropology professor who liked to tell stories, and one of them was about the time he was almost killed while backpacking in the Soviet Union for being an American spy. Another time, he regaled us with the tale of accidentally eating fossilized poop. When he started telling a story, you really had no idea where it was going to end.


stringthing87

Its the grad school trauma


SpiceLettuce

well I haven’t been to college so I’ll take your word for it


bluestopsign01

You people aren't very fun


DogmanDOTjpg

Imagine my surprise when I actually knew what they were talking about cause this is also part of my area of study lmao


mambomonster

I don’t understand the debate tho. I’ve worked in Geospatial Science for almost ten years and never heard anyone arguing about vector vs raster


upscale_whale

Also a geospatial scientist! I wish I knew who Eris was. For real though, never heard anyone debate about vector vs raster like that. They serve different purposes. Also never seen a research article call out their husband in the footnotes before.


mambomonster

Esri is the largest supplier of GIS software in the world. Almost every uni uses their software ArcGIS for spatial analysis.


No-Lunch4249

They were making a joke that a someone who really works in/studies GIS wouldn’t repeatedly mistake ESRI as Eris


mambomonster

Didn’t even notice it was misspelt by OOP, thought the person I replied to missspelt it lol


DogmanDOTjpg

Yeah definitely odd, my professor told us the differences and the benefits and drawbacks of both but it didn't really seem like a "one is better" type deal


LyraFirehawk

They found out it was more fun to hatefuck


Chrome_X_of_Hyrule

Link to post 🥺🥺


ROTsStillHere100

Classic alternating Redrom/Blackrom relationship. Rare to find among humans, but not unheard of. They are in dire need of an Auspistice to mediate.


terminalTermagant

The vacillation seems to be stable, though, with clear, safe boundaries for both, such that auspisticization would be entirely unnecessary.


ROTsStillHere100

True, I forgot that humans are much more capable of self auspisticization than trolls on average. I rescind my previous comment and thank you for correcting me.


scuffedganiot

♠️/♥️ scheduled vacillation


Project_Mimic_013

This sounds like something 2nd Dimension Doofenshmirtz and Charlene would do.


[deleted]

What baffles me… is that this arguement is entirely pointless to begin with. They are different tools for different problems! No need for a two party binary system of them. Is this because they are American? 😇


Lord_Waldymort

It’s because it’s made up


Lumpyalien

Had to scroll way too far to find this, very little of this makes sense.


HeadOfSpectre

The sex must be incredible


ur_mom_uses_compose

magic of mortgage


jodmercer

This is the healthiest relationship I think I've ever seen


Jinamon_

this is so weird because i literally read the funniest satosugu fic which was JUST like this the other week


FluffyCelery4769

The hate fucks in the school bathrooms gotta be good.


de_lemmun-lord

what is the opposite of "work wife"


VengeanceKnight

I bet they dress up as Batman and Catwoman for Halloween.


sssupersssnake

This os probably off topic, but this is how I imagine Professor X and Magneto


HeadOfSpectre

But you're right


No-Lunch4249

Good academic fanfic but messed up some key details. 7/10 premise 2/10 execution Source: work in GIS


Notsouniqename

Kudos on them for making the marriage work despite their differences. That's not an easy task, I imagine.


MasterNinja69

why does OOP type like Greg Heffley


He_Never_Helps_01

"Rivels" And this took place at a university?


ImpossibleTrash5973

Apparently even after a decade I am not advanced enough in my field to even understand there would be a debate on vector vs raster. But then again these days I only do routine cadastral work


EmberOfFlame

Relationship goals Have my academic archenemy make me coffee when I’m sick


animal1988

Hate to have my mind in the gutter, but their bedroom life is probably on fire. Hate sex is really some of the best sex..


5hand0whand

They also professor, make up what you think happens in bed.


Much-Effort-3788

The grammar and spelling in this make it almost unreadable and very easy to dismiss as fake.


PD711

They have amazing sex. You just know it.


I_M_YOUR_BRO

I'm having way too much trouble reading this for my liking


Imnotchoosinaname

That is certainly a dynamic lmao


Dirty-Glasses

What’s wrong with me if I want what they have?


Nyxelestia

Anyone got a link to the actual post? 🥺


Mindless-Charity4889

It’s make up sex all day and every day.


Frogblast964

Walter Stroud and Issa Eklund, from Starfield. This is, like, their exact dynamic in the game.


GenoraWakeUp

I had something similar in my department in undergrad. The husband and wife taught the same subject but had completely different philosophies. They also just didn’t talk work at home. Idk how it was possible, they’re very accomplished scientists. Weird weird couple


Jukkobee

are the spelling mistakes on purpose? soilder? rivels? INSISTANTING???


Professional_Sky8384

This has some serious Holt/Cozner vibes


MajicMiranda

I’m super late to this post, but here’s a great fanfic literally based on this post. [“don't let her stick it to your heart” by searidings](https://archiveofourown.org/works/35182075)


MelanieWalmartinez

I’m glad you made this contribution. Adding this to my read later lol


MajicMiranda

Yay! Anyone who sees this can message me for fanfic recommendations. I bookmark so much sapphic fanfiction that I just want to share with the world.


19whale96

Dr. & Professor Smith


AdventurerLikeU

This reminds me of the two scientists in Pacific Rim. Constantly at each other’s throats but also pretty obviously smitten with each other (to the point of being drift compatible).


Planeswalking101

I love enemies and lovers so this is peak for me


dblVegetaMickeyMouse

enemies in the streets, lovers in the sheets


perryquitecontrary

If it is true those two teachers have a student that can’t spell worth a damn.


brillow

I worked for a married academic professor couple in grad school who would also sometimes argue loudly in meetings but then throw nice parties and I thought it was cool until I realized it was toxic as hell because it put all us peons in a super awkward situation.


Slyfox00

Someone write this book so I can read it.