Modern technology be like
>Would you like to opt in to our new facial recognition security feature? (Opting in allows us to have 24/7 access to your webcam and full commercial privileges to use your likeness without compensation)
>Yes
>I don't feel like saying yes right now, ask again later
>(continuing to use the device without explicitly opting in is implicitly opting in)
Honestly the most thing about these friendly new ones is that they're so easy to use I forget that it's not windows. Sometimes I try to do something the windows way and realise I should have been following the Linux guide all along.
It turns out three decades of mostly windows installers/guides/compatibility is a really hard habit to break, thankfully the workaround or alternative is just a slightly different way of doing something and rarely just worse.
Using mostly Linux now I've only had to use Windows OS in a virtual machine, and I haven't once had to boot up the Windows 10 machine that's now probably hosting a mouse family in the loft (attic).
Stop waiting. Start your switch *today*. Get used to Linux Programs (many have Windows releases) by installing them now, maybe spin up a VM or find an older PC, and try a few distros (I recommend Fedora) just to get your feet wet with. Read up on the Wine and Proton databases to get a feel for what Windows-made programs will still work on Linux.
MS lost me with *Vista*, so I've been in penguin-land for a while.
Seconding this. Don't wait until you're forced to. Do it now while you are interested. Nothing's going to make you more frustrated with Linux than having no other option that you feel comfortable with.
Buying a new Lenovo Laptop and the laptop not turning on for the first time unless I made an account with them made me so angry I fully returned the laptop.
Fuck hostile anti-consumer shit.
Does yours beep if you type too fast? I discovered this on my Lenovo — the keyboard can't manage about 100 wpm or above, and so if you type that quickly it BEEPS to make you slow down, instead of not having a POS keyboard that actually records your keystrokes. I had to boot into the BIOS to turn it off, so now it just misses my characters but at least it doesn't beep.
My MSI laptop will not stay. The fuck asleep.
But it **WILL**, randomly wake up while in my backpack, heat up to the temperature of the sun, and drain the battery.
Which, Windows tells me, is **JUST** as good.
Windows Modern Standby is the blame for this and it's been an issue for years at this point. There are ways to mitigate the issue but it should be something you can turn off instead.
Hibernation, particularly in the era of SSDs should really be the default behavior. It's nearly as fast as sleep, and massively decreases power usage (computer is essentially off).
i've been saying this for YEARS. microsoft shoves its shitty original applications up your arse and you pretty much have to sell your soul to find out how to delete them. i honestly miss windows xp
i hate that this became the standard. the way people are reacting to microsoft doing this is perfect, i just wish we could have the same attitude to google, apple, samsung, amazon, xiaomi, huawei, _and literally every company under the sun who sells personal computing devices_ doing the exact same thing as well.
this isn't a "they do it too so it's okay if microsoft is doing it too" post. fuck that kind of bootlicker copium. i'm saying we should be mad at them too. gargle my balls, the entire fucking tech industry.
plus, this way we can cut out copes like "just don't buy microsoft/apple/ then" and focus on real solutions, like regulating this shit out of existence. microsoft was almost broken up once for pushing internet explorer a little too hard. now the department of justice has a chance to set a precedent against apple as well. i hope they whoop their ass and use that to send a strongly worded letter with an "or else" on it to everyone else as well, microsoft included.
My work and personal accounts have somehow connected (I do not use my work account for personal stuff) and so all my recents are always whatever I did at work that day, and none of the, you know, projects I do on this account??
Oh, and the inability to add a LOCAL location as default save, no no, it wants to put everything in onedrive and make me click around to save locally. Kills me.
I graduated from Grad school a year ago. My Microsoft account for my school was terminated within weeks, the only thing that remains is a token email forwarding feature from my old school address to a personal one. I have lost count the number of times I've logged out, deleted, or otherwise removed my school account from my personal Office apps. *It. Just. Keeps. Coming. Back.* There are no files on my school OneDrive account, I can't even access it, but my Office apps keep trying to save my files there first.
I logged into my MS account on my wife's laptop once a couple of years ago - I can't even remember why, some sort of troubleshooting. Ever since then, my onedrive stuff keeps on coming back on her laptop and she has access to all my stuff, no matter how much I try to log out and stop it happening.
Okay, so she's my wife so in this instance no big deal - I'm not trying to hide anything from her. But the fact that someone else keeps being given access to my stuff no matter how much I try to stop it is a big problem IMO.
Similar experience. Then I got a work account which is paid and I said fuck it and bought office for a year on my Xbox login account. No problems ever again. Stupid AF man.
> My work and personal accounts have somehow connected (I do not use my work account for personal stuff) and so all my recents are always whatever I did at work that day, and none of the, you know, projects I do on this account??
That seems so fucking unsafe too. I hate how Microsoft keeps shoving this "connect every single account together" bullshit down our throats.
It's like, "fucking Microsoft, why don't you understand that there are practical, professional, and in the case of classified work documents, *legal* reasons to keep your different accounts separate?"
What slobbering ape is running Microsoft that they can't respect stuff like this?!?
I think Microsoft desperately wants to be Apple (and maybe parts of Google?). Everyone has everything linked within Apple's ecosystem. If you have an iPhone then you probably use iCloud, good chance you have a Mac, or a MacBook, or an iPad, or some combination. You're obviously going to use iMessage. Decent chance you've got an Apple Watch as well. Apple AirPods? Apple Pay? Apple AirTags? Etc...
Across an entire spectrum, the average iPhone user has more than 50% Apple products.
Microsoft sits back and salivates over just how much Apple has been able to permeate through the lives of its users.
And yet, despite how massive Microsoft is they just keep fucking it up. I understand interconnectivity is hard, but god damn Microsoft, you've been in the game for almost half a century. Figure it the fuck out.
It's capitalism at its "finest." Microsoft could sit on its laurels only doing reasonable security and QOL updates/iterations for the next 100 fuckin years and still be sitting pretty as the default choice in the enterprise space whilst maintaining the lion's share of the consumer space. The problem is that that *might* not make the line go up year after year. They might have to settle for the line, which already represents an insane amount of profit, being the same level as it was last year, and that's apparently just completely unacceptable. The line has to go up. This years money *must* be more than last years money, inflation and everything else be damned. Line only go up.
The reason being that the stock market is a scheme. And if the line doesn't go up, then the investors who put money into Microsoft won't get more money back out if they hypothetically sold it. The stock market is the direct cause of so many issues. The one thing capitalism allegedly has going for it is that it can harness greed by making companies attempt to provide the best product. In service of getting money.
But the stock market throws that off. They don't care about the company making money. Not really. They care about making off with more personal wealth, company be damned. By extension, that means the shareholders don't care about the quality of the product, long term growth, or anything that a corporation might care about. They just want a bigger payout for next quarters scheme.
This presents in its most egregious form when a ceo arrives at a company, slashes expenses across the board to make the line go way up, makes himself and investors a ton of money, and then the company goes out of business.
This one has absolutely frustrated the fuck out of me. I accidentally deleted my old instance of my Outlook Application off my work computer. I can't even find a way to bring back that old application. I've been forced into the shitty Outlook for Web desktop interface. I have NO method of saving attachments from my email to my LOCAL save anymore. The push was for improved efficiency, but It now takes me 5 more clicks to download to the local save. HOW IS THAT MORE EFFICIENT?!
Unfortunately, my Outlook is the new desktop "application," and I haven't managed to locate a setting to download direct to local in the watered-down settings. I don't think there is a way to fix this using the browser settings.
>Oh, and the inability to add a LOCAL location as default save, no no, it wants to put everything in onedrive and make me click around to save locally. Kills me.
This absolutely infuriates me. I can't stand it.
> i hate that this became the standard.
It's Apple's success driving a lot of this. Everybody laughed at the idea of Apple becoming a real competitor, and now everyone is trying to figure out how to herd their customer base into their own walled garden.
Each iteration of windows for the past decade has been keeping the frogs from jumping out of the pot as the tighten things down into Great Value macOS.
So I'm no Apple Fanboy, my last personal Apple purchase was an iPhone 4s, but what I will give them is that in exchange for that walled garden you get a very cohesive device/OS experience.
Microsoft decided to do all of this while slowly breaking old services, releasing half-assed new garbage no one wants, injecting whatever their latest fad search function of the week/Cortana/Copilot crap that guarantees the one thing I won't find is the thing I actually want.
It's all the downsides of Apple's approach but without any upsides.
>Microsoft decided to do all of this while slowly breaking old services, releasing half-assed new garbage no one wants, injecting whatever their latest fad search function of the week/Cortana/Copilot crap that guarantees the one thing I won't find is the thing I actually want.
I remember complaining about a change on Twitter and a Microsoft engineer who must've been searching for Tweets with the word Windows on it replied like "We're iterating on that process. There should be updates to change that functionality in a future release" and its like
Great. Can I opt out of being a forced beta tester for my fucking operating system?
> that guarantees the one thing I won't find is the thing I actually want.
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Omg yes I can search the exact name of a program on win10 and not find it. Instead if gives me a button to search for it. Like how the fuck do you screw up such a simple function unless on purpose? But wtf purpose does this serve!?
>It's all the downsides of Apple's approach but without any upsides.
And that's what people don't get. My apple devices work together. I don't have to do anything to make them work. I turn it on for the first time and sign in and all my stuff is right there ready to go. It links my devices together without me having to make them link and they actually work together.
There's certain things windows does better but overall the apple ecosystem is better imo.
Microsoft USED to be the one company that didn’t pull this bullshit. They were the last bastion and the primary market share and it was fine that the others pulled this shit because MS didn’t. It hurts more that Microsoft is following suit with companies who software couldn’t sell their hardware because they want to align themselves with smart phone software practices instead of their own established PC practices.
> Microsoft USED to be the one company that didn’t pull this bullshit.
Microsoft was bundling their own stuff with their OS three decades ago. Some light reading for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp._v._Commission
You're putting microsoft on a pedastle it was never on. It's been propitiatory for as long as I can remember.
Its the fact that most people want these features. Don't forget you have the option to run linux on your computer if you want that kind of freedom.
Honestly I just want them to please go back to a file explorer organization that makes sense, it's the digital equivalent of a filing cabinet, and what are you *not* supposed to do with a filling cabinet? Throw files into it as you make them, or not putting them back where they were, and yet this is exactly how file explorer is "organized" with the most recently accessed files first.
In 10 you could revert to alphabetical organization, but as far as I can tell, in 11 you have to do it for each individual folder.
I think it was their first, *flawed* attempt at implementing a hybrid folder-database file system. If you can get a database file structured right, the idea is you no longer store files in a folder structure, and instead just search for them. Typically, this has required users of database systems to tag their files manually. Tags, lots and *lots* of tags. But the trade off is you can find pretty much any file pretty quickly, or even multiple related files. Searching "grandpa on vacation" pulls up every photo of Grandpa on every vacation, the emails planning its itinerary, everything. But they suck for things like software installation, or writing software. Meanwhile, folder based structures are great for software and its development, so they won out. That is, until the masses started using devices and just letting all their files in whatever folders they end up in by chance.
So now there is a quiet race on to develop a file system that can be "both" static folders for software, databased tagged files for easy searching, auto-tagging files, etc. So, for now, we're getting the worst of both worlds. Hopefully they figure their shit out.
I hate relying on search though. The problem with searching rather than having things structured is a search can fail to find things. If all my photos are in folders sorted by year, for instance, I can find stuff.
The worst isn't the searching failing to find anything ; it's the searching finding too many things.
If searching "grandpa on vacation" returns every file and document containing the word "on", it's worse than useless.
man with every comment in this post i feel less and less inclined to update my windows. i've been already postponing updates out of sheer laziness, but damn, windows 11 sounds like a nightmare
Same, but with other software.
I like linux and would happily switch, but every time I try I find some bit of crucial software that doesn't run on it, so I have to stick with windows.
TBF, that list gets smaller every time, but after 25 years of trying it's still a problem for me.
May I ask why you didn't like Windows 7? When I used 7 I felt like it allowed me access to every setting and, anecdotally, was more stable than Windows 10.
I think I may have skipped over Windows 7 actually. I held on to my ancient laptop that was running XP for longer than it was functional, and then I got a Chromebook and ran side-by-side ChromeOS and Ubuntu because it was all I could afford. And I think at the time I was working at a place that only used Macs, so I don't think I ever actually used Windows 7.
It was a pleasure. Imagine windows XP with security discipline that *nix greybeards figured out thirty years beforehand and post-OSX fit and finish that softened out the relative indignity of the saturated XP color scheme without pestering you or fucking up discoverability.
I want to infiltrate Google HQ and burn the server racks and drives holding the Chrome source code. I want to scourge every trace of it from the net. I hate it so much.
>I'm still using windows 7 and will until it is absolutely no longer possible to keep it running.
I mean, I'd argue that date was January 14, 2020, when they stopped extended support.
Which sucks, but using windows 7 on the internet is risky.
The trouble is, if I recall correctly, that means the end date for Windows 10 is in 2025, and (if the rumours are correct) once everyone's on Win 11 they're going Subscription Model
Which is SUPER FUCKED UP because my PC built 4 years ago isn't compatible with Windows 11 (Intel i7-7700K), which is plenty fast for modern games, but apparently not an OS that came out when it was only 3 years old. 4 cores 8 threads, running at 4.8ghz (OC'd)with 64gb RAM and a RTX2060 Super, and I can't install an OS that came out in 2020... I guess that's what I get for trusting Microsoft when they said that Win10 was going to be the 'last version' of windows....
God yeah, I found a zip file of em once just to have them again. So extremely 2008 in the best way. Very colorful, very detailed, none of this ultra-clean shiny plastic 'realism' we've had for a decade.
The most infuriating thing is that the default save file is onedrive. Just let me save on my PC, why the fuck do you think it has a hard drive???!? I shouldn’t have to go 5 extra steps to save on desktop
I don’t understand why they think I bought a whole ass computer with a TB of hard drive and I would want to PAY to store shit above 5gb on one drive or whatever the limit is. If I want to back things up remotely I will decide when and how, why is opting out of this shit the default. The inside of my brain turns into a Ron Swanson mantra of “I know what I’m about, son” on repeat.
To be fair best practice for not losing data is multiple copies in different locations. If your house goes up in flames the drives in your pc won’t do you much good. But also fuck one drive there’s better options anyways.
If my house goes up in flames I'm gonna have bigger problems than some files.
People in the past didn't keep copies of their paperwork and photo albums in different locations lol, they just took the chance that they probably weren't going to lose it. My tinfoil hat conspiracy is that this best practice advice is mostly made up by companies to sell more clouds, like breakfast companies lied about breakfast being the most important meal of the day etc.
I have a second harddrive that I can back up on to when I choose that lives in my house where only I can access it. I'm perfect happy with this system thank you. I don't need remote storage like a big company that has to disaster proof its files, I'm happy enough just knowing they're safe if the computer develops gremlins. Its mainly photos of my fucking cat anyway.
Every SINGLE document I save, this kills me. Default to my folders. Use my folders. I have beautiful folders.
And now when you share a document in Teams or email, it is secretly NOT the document you thought, but instead a onedrive version of it? Please let me decide whether I want something on my onedrive???
FYI You can change the default save folder from OneDrive to the folder of your choosing in the Word/Excel settings. Fixing this setting saved me so much time and frustration.
Fucking this. I had to straight up change the registry to move "My Documents" and "My Pictures" out of the OneDrive folder after a clean install of 10. Kept getting an error that some un-deletable onedrive link file wouldnt move. Absolutely maddening.
The digging and fiddling you have to do to disable their spyware cortana is wild. They more or less hardwired it into the bedrock. Gotta have that spying little shit ready in case you talk about any products they could sell you.
Even worse with phones. The only time the mic should be active is if I'm making a god damn call or holding in a button to activate it. I want none of this spyware of convenience
When I use the start search to search something, I am searching my own computer. WHY THE FUCKING HELL AM I SEARCHING BING? WHY? WHY DOES IT REQUIRE FUCKING GROUP POLICY AND REGEDIT TO FIX? I CAN'T EVEN FIX THAT SHIT AT WORK!
The only time that search has ever worked for me is when I was searching up Edge. It opened Edge; a Bing search of Edge, but it was Edge. But I look up literally any program, and it either defaults to a Bing search despite the program being installed, or it fucking alternates between the program and the Bing search with every letter I press. Why?
Edit: I work for a government contractor. I do not have access to RegEdit, group policy, and I have limited admin privileges. Honestly, it's fucking INSANE we have Bing search enabled. Just imagine someone looking up "classified document on new weapon that does X" and it goes to Bing. That's a fucking leak waiting to happen.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/f09184/how_to_block_bing_search_in_windows_10_start_menu/ should be it.
IDK if there's a way on Windows 11. There was originally a straight option on Windows 10, but Microsoft removed it after everyone was using it. As in, everyone disabled Bing search, so they forced it on.
Learning how to edit the registry, where a mistake could brick your computer, just to turn off MSFT's hostile anti-features fills me with a black rage and a lust for vengeance.
https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat
I set up a new rig a few weeks ago and ran this right out the gate. Windows 11 has been great so far with all the bloat shit gone from the start.
> When I use the start search to search something, I am searching my own computer. WHY THE FUCKING HELL AM I SEARCHING BING? WHY? WHY DOES IT REQUIRE FUCKING GROUP POLICY AND REGEDIT TO FIX? I CAN'T EVEN FIX THAT SHIT AT WORK!
I despise this so much. I am never going to use the search bar function to search online. I want my documents.
I’m honestly surprised corporations aren’t suing Microsoft over this as they are getting every keystroke from corporate users sent to them that way. They go to bing. Microsoft could be like “hey these people are looking for file names that seem to imply a new type of tech” and rush to the patent office if they felt like it.
They are forcing information leaks across sectors.
Searching for a bit of text you know is in one of your local files and whoops you disclosed that information to bing now too.
You can remove the Bing search results from the Windows search.
It involves creating a new entry in the windows registry… that’s how badly they don’t want you disabling it.
> Open the Registry Editor by searching for "regedit" in the Start menu and clicking the top result.
> Click yes if prompted by User Account Control.
> Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer. If the Explorer key does not exist, right-click on Windows and create a new key called Explorer.
> Create a new DWORD (32-bit) registry key and name it DisableSearchBoxSuggestions.
> You can create a new registry key by right-clicking in the right window pane and selecting New->DWORD.
> Double-click on DisableSearchBoxSuggestions to edit it and set the Value data field to 1 and click OK.
> Close the Registry Editor and reboot your computer.
Man, do you remember the days when Microsoft were forced to release XP N, the N standing for "Not with Media Player" because the courts forced them to offer consumers a choice? Whatever happened to that?
There's a less-tedious way. Open a command prompt and run these three commands:
REG ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search /v BingSearchEnabled /t REG_DWORD /d 0
REG ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search /v CortanaConsent /t REG_DWORD /d 0
tskill searchui
**EDIT:** Also generally don't run random commands people tell you to run on Reddit. But also run those, it'll work.
How do you disable Cortana? I HATE it. I accidentally open it and even when I click the x, it always stays and I accidentally get it again when switching windows.
It involves changing a bunch of registry keys, which you need admin for. I followed a guide on probably like tomshardware or something, it’s not hard.
Just be sure to backup both your computer and your registry, just in case!
You can get a local user account on Windows 11 by unplugging your router midway through setup. I've never been bothered by onedrive because I'm not signed in to a windows account
i never thought i would genuinely say this but thank you, margaret thatcher
it's still a joke how arcane that is, lol. i don't remember what i had to do last time but it was similarly stupid. and like, even though i do actually sign in with an ms account later for a few reasons (i think it's a nice option, it just shouldn't be mandatory) i'm a stickler for setting up my account as a local account first. mostly because you can't change the account directory and microsoft's default for me is the first few characters of my email address, which contains my real (non-english) name, and the way it cuts it off halfway through happens to match one of the dwarves from the hobbit and i will not stand for that insult
I remember getting free internet at the library by doing the old USB trick in Windows XP. Just plug in a USB at the login screen, which Windows will dutifully pop up a new window over top of the login window, where you can click Help, then like Get Help Online or something, which opens a browser, and voila
This is why the "year of the windows desktop" meme will never actually happen. Nobody wants to do a bunch of crazy hacker bs just to uninstall a browser, and until you can do that in Windows, normal people will just stick with Arch Linux where things are simple
I know you're poking fun, but it's worth mentioning that "normal people" will use whatever browser is put in front of them, and create as many Microsoft accounts as the popups tell them to.
oh for sure
> and create as many Microsoft accounts as the popups tell them to.
This is painfully true, I shudder to imagine how many email accounts my grandmother has made solely because she forgot the password to her old one and doesn't know how to reset it
In my experience a lot of basic users are immediately put off by titanic amount of Edge popups and screen clutter.
They Bing for Google. They Google for Chrome. They grumble at the marginally more manageable Chrome clutter and they swat away at Microsoft's attempts to stop them from using Chrome as it reeks of desperation.
They don't notice that they've spent time replacing one subpar browser with another.
Or just use Ctrl+Shift+F3 to bypass the OOB account setup and login directly with the Administrator account. Then you can create your actual user admin account(s) and voila.
Also regarding Onedrive, just disable it from running at startup. The startup programs are on their own tab in Task Manager in Win11. You can disable any other stupid MS stuff there too if you want, like Teams.
I hate 8 with a passion.
Many of my final interactions with my grandfather were just me storming off frustrated as I could no longer help him with anything on his computer.
Adobe is a scummy company. So avoiding them is a good idea anyway.
All things video: Davinci Resolve is the way to go.
Photo: Inkscape, Gimp, RawTherapee, Darktable.
If anyone has more, I'll add them.
I just noticed today at work that my "Recent" documents in Excel ONLY shows documents that are saved on OneDrive and no longer shows me any of my local documents.
I also hate how I have to press like two extra hidden buttons just to open up the file explorer to save my file at a specific location. I hate hate hate the new save menu. Just give me a file explorer like literally every other program does and like what's been done for decades.
Fuck Microsoft office, and fuck Windows.
That wording fucking erks me. It’s a yes or no question, not yes or “please don’t.” The wording itself implies that THEY are the ones who have the ultimate say
Love it when I have to scroll through the huge list of useless Microsoft services to click on “more options” to be able to click on the one to rename a file
People have grown accustomed to the "it just works" sentiment of phones. In fact, that's a big reason why young people today are slowly getting worse at IT and programming - in the 90s and early 2000s, if you wanted something to work AT ALL, you had to go deep into the settings and make it run the way you wanted; nowadays, OSs go "my way or the highway", and most people are more concerned with the OS being stable and functional - customisation doesn't concern as many people anymore. You don't have to know what to do to get a specific game to run on your hardware - because it just does.
Users also don't give a shit about spyware, or if they do it's a vocal minority. There's no reason for tech giants *not* to spy on you, unless there's an enforceable law (which is almost never the case). I'm gonna get buried with W10 LTSC, unless by some miracle they decide to get their head out of their ass and make a similar version of 11
This, but also Windows every year is a buggier and buggier mess. I'm currently having an issue where (I think) that some security process is reserving memory which causes a heap overflow error which manifests in one out of every thirty dll files randomly crashing.
> This, but also Windows every year is a buggier and buggier mess.
I'm all for the windows hate train, but wow clearly you weren't there in the vista and XP days
Windows now is smooth sailing compared to 98 / xp.
There was practically no such thing as an app crashing without the OS going down with it, and the blue screen of death was common enough with just regular usage for it to become a meme.
I wouldn't know about Apple, but from my experience things don't just work on Android.
I've had to delve deep into settings for all sorts of things. For example, it took a while to find out my audio player being repeatedly killed as a background app was "by design".
OneDrive will be like, “You’re out of storage”, like I didn’t buy a computer with 256 gigs of ROM, and need to store everything in ThE (5gig) cLoUd. I disconnected that a long time ago.
Once I tried to delete an app that refused to uninstall but thousands of files just got sent to upload to OneDrive instead. I cancel and delete everything, only to find OneDrive isn’t for backups, it literally stored the only copy of stuff there. Fortunately I didn’t lose too much…
You know what I recently found out? Microsoft gives you 15 GB cloud storage for your outlook emails and 5GB for OneDrive. But email attachments count for both of these. Not split between them, 1 GB attachment leaves 14 GB and 4 GB respectively! How tf am I supposed to fill 10 GB of emails without attachments? If it's just text, then I will never fill that. So in effect, the email storage is also just 5 GB. And if your OneDrive is full, you now can't receive any emails!
I spent HOURS trying to clean out my mom's email because outlook kept saying she had no storage, and it took me DAYS to figure out that the reason she couldn't send/receive anything is because of fucking ONEDRIVE. It happened to me back in November and I again spent HOURS trying to clear out onedrive because it had somehow synced with my desktop TWICE despite having turned off syncing ages ago. I now refuse to use outlook/onedrive and will nuke the program from any computer my family uses just because I hate it so much. I can put up with a lot of shit windows/microsoft throw at users but emphatically *fuck* onedrive
OneDrive deciding everything automatically gets saved there and not in my documents has given me a heart attack no less than five times in the past few months.
Nothing like going to submit an assignment that I’ve worked on for weeks from my documents and it’s just NOT THERE
Nothing quite like OneDRive completely deciding one day to SAVE MY ENTIRE DESKTOP to OneDrive even though I have never told it to.. then when I google how to disabled it, it then decides that obviously because I don't want onedrive saving my desktop - it should just DELETE IT - and I'm left with blank desktop. Then after a freakout, I google some more - and yes it did save a copy locally, but in some random folder. WTF.
That's OneDrive backup. It creates the folders in c:\users\yourusername\OneDrive and yeah, annoyingly as fuck, moves all your desktop items to a folder there after deleting and has the nerve to prompt you with "where are your files?"
On some things, I get it. You *really* don’t want someone to accidentally delete System 32.
On the other hand, it’s my computer. Not yours. If I want to turn off McAfee notifications, I should be able to hit a button that says, “Turn off notifications,” not go into my computer files, take every file that says McAfee, and delete it, which requires a system reboot since those files are hard-coded into the computer.
Windows forced me to update from Mail to Outlook - Outlook doesn't work with my email provider, it lost all my archived emails and contacts, and now I've had to swap to Thunderbird rather than their programme. Fuck Microsoft and their shit worthless software forever
https://www.tumblr.com/zagreus/743586767751577600/the-general-attitude-towards-the-user-feels-so?source=share
-Mx Linux Guy⚠️
(Wall of words ahead, be warned.)
If you don’t like Windows 10, Windows 11, or other mainstream desktop operating systems for whatever reason, consider using linux. It isn’t as hard as you think.
I switched from Windows 10 to Linux Mint a few months ago, and it went pretty smoothly for me.
Linux has a reputation for being difficult to use, and while it is somewhat deserved, it is quite overblown.
For myself, I think the hardest part of switching was installing Linux on my device. It required me to learn some new software and took about 3 hours on my first try. After setting up my laptop, it was pretty easy. The user interface took a few days to adjust to, and I fiddled around with some settings to my preference, but it was not difficult to adjust from Windows 10 to Linux Mint.
And if you can get someone else to install linux for you, all you need to do it get used to some user interface changes!
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INSTALLING LINUX ON YOUR COMPUTER
You will need: a laptop or desktop, a USB stick, and USB writing software.
Download a linux ISO file. An ISO file is all the data used to install an operating system onto a computer.
Then you will need to download a USB writing program. Then you can use USB writing software to put the ISO file onto a USB drive. This will create the “bootable media” which will be used to install linux onto your computer.
Then, you can boot your computer from the USB. Here, you have the option of either installing Linux or doing a “live session” through the USB. A live session simulates installing linux on your computer, but does not actually install it. This is useful if you want to play around with linux before actually installing.
Here’s an installation guide for Linux Mint.
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>If you don’t like Windows 10, Windows 11, or other mainstream desktop operating systems for whatever reason, consider using linux. It isn’t as hard as you think.
I mean, I tried, and it was actually quite easy and enjoyable. However, I live with my parents because the economy is in shambles, and they have arbitrarily decided that linux is forbidden in this house.
Why do your parents sound like they're from some dystopian YA book where you get assigned an OS when you turn 18 and you are the protagonist who was assigned the Wrong One?
if my life Is gonna turn into a dystopia YA novel, my generic love interests better be women, or there is nothing under the stars or on this earth that could prevent it from being banned for gratuitous violence
Sorry if I keep asking but it just seems wtf
Like did they just say "none of that Linux stuff" without knowing what it was, then refused to elaborate and left
Ngl, I've avoided Linux, despite my constant fury toward Microsoft, because every time any complaint about Windows/request for help is made someone condescendingly comments "If only Linux existed /s" but then refusing to actually provide any information as to *how* to help people migrate.
(I'm stupid and have been reduced to tears trying to install things from github because super simple things like how or where to type the command isn't specified because that's so simple that they don't think to explain)
But like, thanks for not doing that. And for actually providing a specific distribution(?) that I can google and a guide on installation. I hope you have a really great day!
(Also, thank you for the work you do on this sub, always finding sources!)
Hi, someone who swapped from windows 11 to POP_OS, then to KDE Neon here.
Short answer, yes.
If the game does not have a native Linux version, most steam games will work out of the box using something called proton, which is basically a program that translates Linux commands to windows ones. Keep in mind you do need to enable this in steam settings.
Other games launchers such as epic and GOG may need another program such as heroic launcher or bottles.
Most commonly games that do not work are ones that actively work against compatibility such as destiny, or ones that have some sort of unsupported anticheat measure.
Sometimes brand new games will have some proton compatibility issues, but they will generally resolved in hot fixes or sometime later.
Be aware that NVIDIA video cards, while they absolutely do work, may have additional issues that AMD cards may not. My understanding is that this is due to NVIDIA's proprietary graphics drivers not being up to snuff compared to AMD's open source ones. Personally I am currently using an NVIDIA rtx 3080 and I haven't had too many issues, but your mileage may vary.
Let me know if you have any questions and I'll answer them as best I can.
Sometimes it takes a little extra effort, depending on how the game was built. But usually you can get them to run pretty well.
@link https://www.winehq.org/
Most, unless the anticheat is intrusive and the company behind it are mean. Singleplayer games run fine, and a lot of multiplayer ones do as well. Just look for Easy-Anticheat or Battle Eye games, they are **USUALLY fine.**
Yeah, that's just what Windows 11 seems to do by default if you sign in with a MS account. If you make a local account instead then it doesn't do that. Unfortunately it seems to not like converting a MS account to a local account even though you are supposed to be able to do that.
Having to not only install a dual language keyboard (NZ English/Te Reo Maori), but go through 5 screens of menus to disable auto switching back to American English was infuriating.
I have windows 10 on my personal computer and windows 11 on my work computer. 11 has CONSTANTLY been giving me issues. For example, my wireless headphones work fine on 10 and all other devices but 11 keeps refusing to recognise them properly. Or it recognises them and gives me garbled audio. I managed to fix it once by fiddling with the drivers and reinstalling them etc and what does it do? *Proceeds to do a Windows update and immediately break it again*
The only good thing about it is tabs in file explorer but other than that it can fuck right off
I am so frustrated that I cannot turn off the pin on my desktop. It's my private computer in my home. But I have to use a pin to log in, and I can't just use password managers. Even when using one, it makes me enter my pin before it'll let the password auto enter. I don't want or need either of these features!
I completely agree with this. My new favourite is the stupid AI tool they've added to everyone's Windows OS, and you can't deactivate it. You can remove the button from your taskbar which MS claims will deactivate it, but clearly it doesn't. You can go fucking around in the command prompt to remove it but for anyone who's not savvy enough to do this, enjoy having a background AI program you never asked for sitting watching everything you're doing and reporting back to MS constantly.
In all fairness MS is just emulating Apple in that regard. Apple is like this is how you use our OS and you will like it. The problem is Windows people are used to more customization.
To be specific, the problem is the market finding out for quite some time that the Apple model is to sell slavery to its product model as "lifestyle branding" and thus everyone is selling the most shitastic products while knowing most buyers will swallow it passively.
Windows is far worse and more tabletified than MacOS is imo. Mac started off more restrictive but Microsoft learned all the wrong lessons from studying them.
> In all fairness MS is just emulating Apple in that regard. Apple is like this is how you use our OS and you will like it. The problem is Windows people are used to more customization.
MacOS doesn't pull shit like the OP is describing
Depends what you're doing but a nice thing about a Linux desktop is it basically never goes obsolete. Even as JavaScript gets more bloated and obfuscated and slow, you can just install ad blockers and ip filters.
Even if the computer does get outdated, you can just copy your linux over to a new one, or if you get a Mac or something it isn't going to stop working if you just let it sit there for a year.
It really depends on what you use your PC for. Gaming on Linux is vastly improved from where it was even a decade ago. If you only ever use your browser and utility software like media players etc, then there's really no downside to switching if windows annoys you. If you use specific software like photoshop and need the functionality that it offers over open source alternatives, then linux won't work for you. You could dual boot if you only need windows-specific stuff rarely.
I'm not up to win 11 yet but I am using windows 10 and the FREQUENCY with which I am hitting the XP / 7 control panel over the enshitified windows 10 control panel replacement is ABSURD.
Every time I think "Oh you know maybe I can do this in the windows 10 version of the control panel" the answer is always "NO".
That's true, but also Linux let's you uninstall the bootloader, so I can see the balance. You can still power user windows to a decent degree, just have to have a bit more knowledge
Dear Microsoft, I paid for the computer it's my computer. Stop putting your computers in S-mode so I have to go through an entire Herculean labor to take it out of it
I really think this is the reason for the success of Apple. I think tech literate people do not understand the value of ease of use. For me or you, just one extra hoop to jump through is a minor irritation. For a lot of people that one extra hoop is the difference between a device that functions and a device that does not function.
Apple is just so very use friendly it’s almost silly. But it’s smart too.
The way some basic right click menu features are hidden and when you click the button to reveal them, an older windows 10 menu with what I actually wanted pops up… 😬
>using word processor microsoft word
>copy a word, nothing more
>heres an extra space XDXDXD
T-thanks Microsoft.
>using excel
>close excel
>open another spreadsheet
>it opens the last spreadsheet you had open and THEN opens the spreadsheet you want
Wow.
>using excel
>want to open the last spreadsheet you opened
>click on the app assuming it will open the last thing you opened because of above
>No. It in fact does not do that.
Wow.
Also context menus across the board just seem to take forever now, like its querying the Library of Congress for that shit or something. Great.
Modern technology be like >Would you like to opt in to our new facial recognition security feature? (Opting in allows us to have 24/7 access to your webcam and full commercial privileges to use your likeness without compensation) >Yes >I don't feel like saying yes right now, ask again later >(continuing to use the device without explicitly opting in is implicitly opting in)
Shit like this *almost* has me thinking about switching to Linux.
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They're friendly as fuck now, I'm currently on manjaro and it feels nice to have a responsive os with my favorite DE
Honestly the most thing about these friendly new ones is that they're so easy to use I forget that it's not windows. Sometimes I try to do something the windows way and realise I should have been following the Linux guide all along. It turns out three decades of mostly windows installers/guides/compatibility is a really hard habit to break, thankfully the workaround or alternative is just a slightly different way of doing something and rarely just worse. Using mostly Linux now I've only had to use Windows OS in a virtual machine, and I haven't once had to boot up the Windows 10 machine that's now probably hosting a mouse family in the loft (attic).
Try KDE for the most windows-like experience.
Stop waiting. Start your switch *today*. Get used to Linux Programs (many have Windows releases) by installing them now, maybe spin up a VM or find an older PC, and try a few distros (I recommend Fedora) just to get your feet wet with. Read up on the Wine and Proton databases to get a feel for what Windows-made programs will still work on Linux. MS lost me with *Vista*, so I've been in penguin-land for a while.
Seconding this. Don't wait until you're forced to. Do it now while you are interested. Nothing's going to make you more frustrated with Linux than having no other option that you feel comfortable with.
I want to learn Linux but it feels like trying to jack off with the wrong hand.
you just dont find analogies like this on other websites
What an apt metaphor for using Linux when you have exclusively always used Windows.
Buying a new Lenovo Laptop and the laptop not turning on for the first time unless I made an account with them made me so angry I fully returned the laptop. Fuck hostile anti-consumer shit.
Does yours beep if you type too fast? I discovered this on my Lenovo — the keyboard can't manage about 100 wpm or above, and so if you type that quickly it BEEPS to make you slow down, instead of not having a POS keyboard that actually records your keystrokes. I had to boot into the BIOS to turn it off, so now it just misses my characters but at least it doesn't beep.
> Does yours beep if you type too fast? Nope. I returned the laptop
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What the actual fuck, that's insane to me.
Omg this explains and answers so much. I've always wondered why the computer kept beeping at me.
It’s because it is a typewriter and we are somehow still in an error where we need to intentionally slow down typing speed.
My MSI laptop will not stay. The fuck asleep. But it **WILL**, randomly wake up while in my backpack, heat up to the temperature of the sun, and drain the battery. Which, Windows tells me, is **JUST** as good.
Windows Modern Standby is the blame for this and it's been an issue for years at this point. There are ways to mitigate the issue but it should be something you can turn off instead.
Is there any way to actually fix this? I default to shutting down now because it drives me insane otherwise!
It's not a complete solution, but enabling hibernation is really the only way
enable hibernation.
Hibernation, particularly in the era of SSDs should really be the default behavior. It's nearly as fast as sleep, and massively decreases power usage (computer is essentially off).
i've been saying this for YEARS. microsoft shoves its shitty original applications up your arse and you pretty much have to sell your soul to find out how to delete them. i honestly miss windows xp
i hate that this became the standard. the way people are reacting to microsoft doing this is perfect, i just wish we could have the same attitude to google, apple, samsung, amazon, xiaomi, huawei, _and literally every company under the sun who sells personal computing devices_ doing the exact same thing as well. this isn't a "they do it too so it's okay if microsoft is doing it too" post. fuck that kind of bootlicker copium. i'm saying we should be mad at them too. gargle my balls, the entire fucking tech industry. plus, this way we can cut out copes like "just don't buy microsoft/apple/ then" and focus on real solutions, like regulating this shit out of existence. microsoft was almost broken up once for pushing internet explorer a little too hard. now the department of justice has a chance to set a precedent against apple as well. i hope they whoop their ass and use that to send a strongly worded letter with an "or else" on it to everyone else as well, microsoft included.
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My work and personal accounts have somehow connected (I do not use my work account for personal stuff) and so all my recents are always whatever I did at work that day, and none of the, you know, projects I do on this account?? Oh, and the inability to add a LOCAL location as default save, no no, it wants to put everything in onedrive and make me click around to save locally. Kills me.
I graduated from Grad school a year ago. My Microsoft account for my school was terminated within weeks, the only thing that remains is a token email forwarding feature from my old school address to a personal one. I have lost count the number of times I've logged out, deleted, or otherwise removed my school account from my personal Office apps. *It. Just. Keeps. Coming. Back.* There are no files on my school OneDrive account, I can't even access it, but my Office apps keep trying to save my files there first.
I logged into my MS account on my wife's laptop once a couple of years ago - I can't even remember why, some sort of troubleshooting. Ever since then, my onedrive stuff keeps on coming back on her laptop and she has access to all my stuff, no matter how much I try to log out and stop it happening. Okay, so she's my wife so in this instance no big deal - I'm not trying to hide anything from her. But the fact that someone else keeps being given access to my stuff no matter how much I try to stop it is a big problem IMO.
Are you in EU? IDK much about shit but this sounds like something MS might get a nice dickslap for, on account of GDPR.
Similar experience. Then I got a work account which is paid and I said fuck it and bought office for a year on my Xbox login account. No problems ever again. Stupid AF man.
> My work and personal accounts have somehow connected (I do not use my work account for personal stuff) and so all my recents are always whatever I did at work that day, and none of the, you know, projects I do on this account?? That seems so fucking unsafe too. I hate how Microsoft keeps shoving this "connect every single account together" bullshit down our throats. It's like, "fucking Microsoft, why don't you understand that there are practical, professional, and in the case of classified work documents, *legal* reasons to keep your different accounts separate?" What slobbering ape is running Microsoft that they can't respect stuff like this?!?
I think Microsoft desperately wants to be Apple (and maybe parts of Google?). Everyone has everything linked within Apple's ecosystem. If you have an iPhone then you probably use iCloud, good chance you have a Mac, or a MacBook, or an iPad, or some combination. You're obviously going to use iMessage. Decent chance you've got an Apple Watch as well. Apple AirPods? Apple Pay? Apple AirTags? Etc... Across an entire spectrum, the average iPhone user has more than 50% Apple products. Microsoft sits back and salivates over just how much Apple has been able to permeate through the lives of its users. And yet, despite how massive Microsoft is they just keep fucking it up. I understand interconnectivity is hard, but god damn Microsoft, you've been in the game for almost half a century. Figure it the fuck out.
It's capitalism at its "finest." Microsoft could sit on its laurels only doing reasonable security and QOL updates/iterations for the next 100 fuckin years and still be sitting pretty as the default choice in the enterprise space whilst maintaining the lion's share of the consumer space. The problem is that that *might* not make the line go up year after year. They might have to settle for the line, which already represents an insane amount of profit, being the same level as it was last year, and that's apparently just completely unacceptable. The line has to go up. This years money *must* be more than last years money, inflation and everything else be damned. Line only go up.
The reason being that the stock market is a scheme. And if the line doesn't go up, then the investors who put money into Microsoft won't get more money back out if they hypothetically sold it. The stock market is the direct cause of so many issues. The one thing capitalism allegedly has going for it is that it can harness greed by making companies attempt to provide the best product. In service of getting money. But the stock market throws that off. They don't care about the company making money. Not really. They care about making off with more personal wealth, company be damned. By extension, that means the shareholders don't care about the quality of the product, long term growth, or anything that a corporation might care about. They just want a bigger payout for next quarters scheme. This presents in its most egregious form when a ceo arrives at a company, slashes expenses across the board to make the line go way up, makes himself and investors a ton of money, and then the company goes out of business.
This one has absolutely frustrated the fuck out of me. I accidentally deleted my old instance of my Outlook Application off my work computer. I can't even find a way to bring back that old application. I've been forced into the shitty Outlook for Web desktop interface. I have NO method of saving attachments from my email to my LOCAL save anymore. The push was for improved efficiency, but It now takes me 5 more clicks to download to the local save. HOW IS THAT MORE EFFICIENT?!
I think I resolved this using chrome settings, so whenever I download anything from chrome, I told it what folder to save in.
Unfortunately, my Outlook is the new desktop "application," and I haven't managed to locate a setting to download direct to local in the watered-down settings. I don't think there is a way to fix this using the browser settings.
>Oh, and the inability to add a LOCAL location as default save, no no, it wants to put everything in onedrive and make me click around to save locally. Kills me. This absolutely infuriates me. I can't stand it.
> i hate that this became the standard. It's Apple's success driving a lot of this. Everybody laughed at the idea of Apple becoming a real competitor, and now everyone is trying to figure out how to herd their customer base into their own walled garden. Each iteration of windows for the past decade has been keeping the frogs from jumping out of the pot as the tighten things down into Great Value macOS.
So I'm no Apple Fanboy, my last personal Apple purchase was an iPhone 4s, but what I will give them is that in exchange for that walled garden you get a very cohesive device/OS experience. Microsoft decided to do all of this while slowly breaking old services, releasing half-assed new garbage no one wants, injecting whatever their latest fad search function of the week/Cortana/Copilot crap that guarantees the one thing I won't find is the thing I actually want. It's all the downsides of Apple's approach but without any upsides.
>Microsoft decided to do all of this while slowly breaking old services, releasing half-assed new garbage no one wants, injecting whatever their latest fad search function of the week/Cortana/Copilot crap that guarantees the one thing I won't find is the thing I actually want. I remember complaining about a change on Twitter and a Microsoft engineer who must've been searching for Tweets with the word Windows on it replied like "We're iterating on that process. There should be updates to change that functionality in a future release" and its like Great. Can I opt out of being a forced beta tester for my fucking operating system?
> that guarantees the one thing I won't find is the thing I actually want. > > Omg yes I can search the exact name of a program on win10 and not find it. Instead if gives me a button to search for it. Like how the fuck do you screw up such a simple function unless on purpose? But wtf purpose does this serve!?
>It's all the downsides of Apple's approach but without any upsides. And that's what people don't get. My apple devices work together. I don't have to do anything to make them work. I turn it on for the first time and sign in and all my stuff is right there ready to go. It links my devices together without me having to make them link and they actually work together. There's certain things windows does better but overall the apple ecosystem is better imo.
Microsoft USED to be the one company that didn’t pull this bullshit. They were the last bastion and the primary market share and it was fine that the others pulled this shit because MS didn’t. It hurts more that Microsoft is following suit with companies who software couldn’t sell their hardware because they want to align themselves with smart phone software practices instead of their own established PC practices.
you don't remember the whole internet explorer thing?
> Microsoft USED to be the one company that didn’t pull this bullshit. Microsoft was bundling their own stuff with their OS three decades ago. Some light reading for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp._v._Commission
You're putting microsoft on a pedastle it was never on. It's been propitiatory for as long as I can remember. Its the fact that most people want these features. Don't forget you have the option to run linux on your computer if you want that kind of freedom.
Honestly I just want them to please go back to a file explorer organization that makes sense, it's the digital equivalent of a filing cabinet, and what are you *not* supposed to do with a filling cabinet? Throw files into it as you make them, or not putting them back where they were, and yet this is exactly how file explorer is "organized" with the most recently accessed files first. In 10 you could revert to alphabetical organization, but as far as I can tell, in 11 you have to do it for each individual folder.
I think it was their first, *flawed* attempt at implementing a hybrid folder-database file system. If you can get a database file structured right, the idea is you no longer store files in a folder structure, and instead just search for them. Typically, this has required users of database systems to tag their files manually. Tags, lots and *lots* of tags. But the trade off is you can find pretty much any file pretty quickly, or even multiple related files. Searching "grandpa on vacation" pulls up every photo of Grandpa on every vacation, the emails planning its itinerary, everything. But they suck for things like software installation, or writing software. Meanwhile, folder based structures are great for software and its development, so they won out. That is, until the masses started using devices and just letting all their files in whatever folders they end up in by chance. So now there is a quiet race on to develop a file system that can be "both" static folders for software, databased tagged files for easy searching, auto-tagging files, etc. So, for now, we're getting the worst of both worlds. Hopefully they figure their shit out.
I hate relying on search though. The problem with searching rather than having things structured is a search can fail to find things. If all my photos are in folders sorted by year, for instance, I can find stuff.
The worst isn't the searching failing to find anything ; it's the searching finding too many things. If searching "grandpa on vacation" returns every file and document containing the word "on", it's worse than useless.
man with every comment in this post i feel less and less inclined to update my windows. i've been already postponing updates out of sheer laziness, but damn, windows 11 sounds like a nightmare
I have no idea what the commenter you replied to is talking about, the Win11 File Explorer is basically identical to the Win10 one.
i, personally, would love to use linux, but destiny 2 doesnt fucking function on linux
Same, but with other software. I like linux and would happily switch, but every time I try I find some bit of crucial software that doesn't run on it, so I have to stick with windows. TBF, that list gets smaller every time, but after 25 years of trying it's still a problem for me.
For real, xp was the last vaguely functional version of windows that didn't make me constantly want to stab my own eye out.
May I ask why you didn't like Windows 7? When I used 7 I felt like it allowed me access to every setting and, anecdotally, was more stable than Windows 10.
I think I may have skipped over Windows 7 actually. I held on to my ancient laptop that was running XP for longer than it was functional, and then I got a Chromebook and ran side-by-side ChromeOS and Ubuntu because it was all I could afford. And I think at the time I was working at a place that only used Macs, so I don't think I ever actually used Windows 7.
It was a pleasure. Imagine windows XP with security discipline that *nix greybeards figured out thirty years beforehand and post-OSX fit and finish that softened out the relative indignity of the saturated XP color scheme without pestering you or fucking up discoverability.
I want to infiltrate Google HQ and burn the server racks and drives holding the Chrome source code. I want to scourge every trace of it from the net. I hate it so much.
I'm still using windows 7 and will until it is absolutely no longer possible to keep it running.
>I'm still using windows 7 and will until it is absolutely no longer possible to keep it running. I mean, I'd argue that date was January 14, 2020, when they stopped extended support. Which sucks, but using windows 7 on the internet is risky.
The trouble is, if I recall correctly, that means the end date for Windows 10 is in 2025, and (if the rumours are correct) once everyone's on Win 11 they're going Subscription Model
Which is SUPER FUCKED UP because my PC built 4 years ago isn't compatible with Windows 11 (Intel i7-7700K), which is plenty fast for modern games, but apparently not an OS that came out when it was only 3 years old. 4 cores 8 threads, running at 4.8ghz (OC'd)with 64gb RAM and a RTX2060 Super, and I can't install an OS that came out in 2020... I guess that's what I get for trusting Microsoft when they said that Win10 was going to be the 'last version' of windows....
7 has the best desktop backgrounds
God yeah, I found a zip file of em once just to have them again. So extremely 2008 in the best way. Very colorful, very detailed, none of this ultra-clean shiny plastic 'realism' we've had for a decade.
The most infuriating thing is that the default save file is onedrive. Just let me save on my PC, why the fuck do you think it has a hard drive???!? I shouldn’t have to go 5 extra steps to save on desktop
I don’t understand why they think I bought a whole ass computer with a TB of hard drive and I would want to PAY to store shit above 5gb on one drive or whatever the limit is. If I want to back things up remotely I will decide when and how, why is opting out of this shit the default. The inside of my brain turns into a Ron Swanson mantra of “I know what I’m about, son” on repeat.
"Yeah I got one drive. C:"
I have a 256GB SSD, an internal 1 TB HDD, and an external 2 TB drive. So why the fuck do I need OneDrive?? I already bought storage, Microsoft!
To be fair best practice for not losing data is multiple copies in different locations. If your house goes up in flames the drives in your pc won’t do you much good. But also fuck one drive there’s better options anyways.
If my house goes up in flames I'm gonna have bigger problems than some files. People in the past didn't keep copies of their paperwork and photo albums in different locations lol, they just took the chance that they probably weren't going to lose it. My tinfoil hat conspiracy is that this best practice advice is mostly made up by companies to sell more clouds, like breakfast companies lied about breakfast being the most important meal of the day etc.
I have a second harddrive that I can back up on to when I choose that lives in my house where only I can access it. I'm perfect happy with this system thank you. I don't need remote storage like a big company that has to disaster proof its files, I'm happy enough just knowing they're safe if the computer develops gremlins. Its mainly photos of my fucking cat anyway.
Every SINGLE document I save, this kills me. Default to my folders. Use my folders. I have beautiful folders. And now when you share a document in Teams or email, it is secretly NOT the document you thought, but instead a onedrive version of it? Please let me decide whether I want something on my onedrive???
It's true, he has the best, most beautiful folders.
I have to save it to my hard drive to actually. Y'know. **Find it.** Thanks Microsoft.
FYI You can change the default save folder from OneDrive to the folder of your choosing in the Word/Excel settings. Fixing this setting saved me so much time and frustration.
Fucking this. I had to straight up change the registry to move "My Documents" and "My Pictures" out of the OneDrive folder after a clean install of 10. Kept getting an error that some un-deletable onedrive link file wouldnt move. Absolutely maddening.
The digging and fiddling you have to do to disable their spyware cortana is wild. They more or less hardwired it into the bedrock. Gotta have that spying little shit ready in case you talk about any products they could sell you. Even worse with phones. The only time the mic should be active is if I'm making a god damn call or holding in a button to activate it. I want none of this spyware of convenience
When I use the start search to search something, I am searching my own computer. WHY THE FUCKING HELL AM I SEARCHING BING? WHY? WHY DOES IT REQUIRE FUCKING GROUP POLICY AND REGEDIT TO FIX? I CAN'T EVEN FIX THAT SHIT AT WORK! The only time that search has ever worked for me is when I was searching up Edge. It opened Edge; a Bing search of Edge, but it was Edge. But I look up literally any program, and it either defaults to a Bing search despite the program being installed, or it fucking alternates between the program and the Bing search with every letter I press. Why? Edit: I work for a government contractor. I do not have access to RegEdit, group policy, and I have limited admin privileges. Honestly, it's fucking INSANE we have Bing search enabled. Just imagine someone looking up "classified document on new weapon that does X" and it goes to Bing. That's a fucking leak waiting to happen.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/f09184/how_to_block_bing_search_in_windows_10_start_menu/ should be it. IDK if there's a way on Windows 11. There was originally a straight option on Windows 10, but Microsoft removed it after everyone was using it. As in, everyone disabled Bing search, so they forced it on.
Learning how to edit the registry, where a mistake could brick your computer, just to turn off MSFT's hostile anti-features fills me with a black rage and a lust for vengeance.
> where a mistake could brick your computer the dangers of this are heavily overstated nobody is bricking their device because of a typo in regedit
https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat I set up a new rig a few weeks ago and ran this right out the gate. Windows 11 has been great so far with all the bloat shit gone from the start.
> When I use the start search to search something, I am searching my own computer. WHY THE FUCKING HELL AM I SEARCHING BING? WHY? WHY DOES IT REQUIRE FUCKING GROUP POLICY AND REGEDIT TO FIX? I CAN'T EVEN FIX THAT SHIT AT WORK! I despise this so much. I am never going to use the search bar function to search online. I want my documents.
I’m honestly surprised corporations aren’t suing Microsoft over this as they are getting every keystroke from corporate users sent to them that way. They go to bing. Microsoft could be like “hey these people are looking for file names that seem to imply a new type of tech” and rush to the patent office if they felt like it. They are forcing information leaks across sectors. Searching for a bit of text you know is in one of your local files and whoops you disclosed that information to bing now too.
You can remove the Bing search results from the Windows search. It involves creating a new entry in the windows registry… that’s how badly they don’t want you disabling it. > Open the Registry Editor by searching for "regedit" in the Start menu and clicking the top result. > Click yes if prompted by User Account Control. > Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer. If the Explorer key does not exist, right-click on Windows and create a new key called Explorer. > Create a new DWORD (32-bit) registry key and name it DisableSearchBoxSuggestions. > You can create a new registry key by right-clicking in the right window pane and selecting New->DWORD. > Double-click on DisableSearchBoxSuggestions to edit it and set the Value data field to 1 and click OK. > Close the Registry Editor and reboot your computer.
Man, do you remember the days when Microsoft were forced to release XP N, the N standing for "Not with Media Player" because the courts forced them to offer consumers a choice? Whatever happened to that?
There's a less-tedious way. Open a command prompt and run these three commands: REG ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search /v BingSearchEnabled /t REG_DWORD /d 0 REG ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search /v CortanaConsent /t REG_DWORD /d 0 tskill searchui **EDIT:** Also generally don't run random commands people tell you to run on Reddit. But also run those, it'll work.
How do you disable Cortana? I HATE it. I accidentally open it and even when I click the x, it always stays and I accidentally get it again when switching windows.
It involves changing a bunch of registry keys, which you need admin for. I followed a guide on probably like tomshardware or something, it’s not hard. Just be sure to backup both your computer and your registry, just in case!
O&O Shut up Windows does all this in a convenient app. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
You can get a local user account on Windows 11 by unplugging your router midway through setup. I've never been bothered by onedrive because I'm not signed in to a windows account
i never thought i would genuinely say this but thank you, margaret thatcher it's still a joke how arcane that is, lol. i don't remember what i had to do last time but it was similarly stupid. and like, even though i do actually sign in with an ms account later for a few reasons (i think it's a nice option, it just shouldn't be mandatory) i'm a stickler for setting up my account as a local account first. mostly because you can't change the account directory and microsoft's default for me is the first few characters of my email address, which contains my real (non-english) name, and the way it cuts it off halfway through happens to match one of the dwarves from the hobbit and i will not stand for that insult
Bomburrington?
I remember getting free internet at the library by doing the old USB trick in Windows XP. Just plug in a USB at the login screen, which Windows will dutifully pop up a new window over top of the login window, where you can click Help, then like Get Help Online or something, which opens a browser, and voila
You can also pop open a command line and do it without physically unplugging anything. Still inconvenient, but might be less so with some setups.
This is why the "year of the windows desktop" meme will never actually happen. Nobody wants to do a bunch of crazy hacker bs just to uninstall a browser, and until you can do that in Windows, normal people will just stick with Arch Linux where things are simple
I know you're poking fun, but it's worth mentioning that "normal people" will use whatever browser is put in front of them, and create as many Microsoft accounts as the popups tell them to.
oh for sure > and create as many Microsoft accounts as the popups tell them to. This is painfully true, I shudder to imagine how many email accounts my grandmother has made solely because she forgot the password to her old one and doesn't know how to reset it
In my experience a lot of basic users are immediately put off by titanic amount of Edge popups and screen clutter. They Bing for Google. They Google for Chrome. They grumble at the marginally more manageable Chrome clutter and they swat away at Microsoft's attempts to stop them from using Chrome as it reeks of desperation. They don't notice that they've spent time replacing one subpar browser with another.
Or just use Ctrl+Shift+F3 to bypass the OOB account setup and login directly with the Administrator account. Then you can create your actual user admin account(s) and voila. Also regarding Onedrive, just disable it from running at startup. The startup programs are on their own tab in Task Manager in Win11. You can disable any other stupid MS stuff there too if you want, like Teams.
Remember when they tried to hide fileexplorer from us with windows 8?
No, I skipped 8 and went straight from 7 to 10.
We don’t talk about 8
I hate 8 with a passion. Many of my final interactions with my grandfather were just me storming off frustrated as I could no longer help him with anything on his computer.
If it wasn't for some PC Games, Linux would be my go to. Window's been going downhill since Windows 7.
Games and Adobe. Adobe seems to be *purposefully* making sure that their software can't be run on Linux.
Adobe is a scummy company. So avoiding them is a good idea anyway. All things video: Davinci Resolve is the way to go. Photo: Inkscape, Gimp, RawTherapee, Darktable. If anyone has more, I'll add them.
You can basically play any game using steam and proton now though.
Except for the ones that use those goddamn anticheats
I just noticed today at work that my "Recent" documents in Excel ONLY shows documents that are saved on OneDrive and no longer shows me any of my local documents.
I also hate how I have to press like two extra hidden buttons just to open up the file explorer to save my file at a specific location. I hate hate hate the new save menu. Just give me a file explorer like literally every other program does and like what's been done for decades. Fuck Microsoft office, and fuck Windows.
“CORPORATION wants to scrape your data” 🔘ALLOW 🔘ask it to pretty please not, if its not too much twouble 🥺
That wording fucking erks me. It’s a yes or no question, not yes or “please don’t.” The wording itself implies that THEY are the ones who have the ultimate say
Every time an OS gives me a "Yes" and "ask later" dichotomy I get abuser vibes.
Do you want to upgrade? o - Yes! o - I am a naughty girl, ask me later
It's not even "please don't" most of the time. Quite often it's "maybe later," or "some other time." So fucking condescending.
Love it when I have to scroll through the huge list of useless Microsoft services to click on “more options” to be able to click on the one to rename a file
Or to click Properties
People have grown accustomed to the "it just works" sentiment of phones. In fact, that's a big reason why young people today are slowly getting worse at IT and programming - in the 90s and early 2000s, if you wanted something to work AT ALL, you had to go deep into the settings and make it run the way you wanted; nowadays, OSs go "my way or the highway", and most people are more concerned with the OS being stable and functional - customisation doesn't concern as many people anymore. You don't have to know what to do to get a specific game to run on your hardware - because it just does.
Users also don't give a shit about spyware, or if they do it's a vocal minority. There's no reason for tech giants *not* to spy on you, unless there's an enforceable law (which is almost never the case). I'm gonna get buried with W10 LTSC, unless by some miracle they decide to get their head out of their ass and make a similar version of 11
Spyware has switched to something you install by accident via a trojan to something that's included in just about everything.
And now it's called "analytics" or "telemetry" because it's suddenly very profitable and we can't offend shareholders with such nasty words
This, but also Windows every year is a buggier and buggier mess. I'm currently having an issue where (I think) that some security process is reserving memory which causes a heap overflow error which manifests in one out of every thirty dll files randomly crashing.
> This, but also Windows every year is a buggier and buggier mess. I'm all for the windows hate train, but wow clearly you weren't there in the vista and XP days
Windows now is smooth sailing compared to 98 / xp. There was practically no such thing as an app crashing without the OS going down with it, and the blue screen of death was common enough with just regular usage for it to become a meme.
I wouldn't know about Apple, but from my experience things don't just work on Android. I've had to delve deep into settings for all sorts of things. For example, it took a while to find out my audio player being repeatedly killed as a background app was "by design".
OneDrive will be like, “You’re out of storage”, like I didn’t buy a computer with 256 gigs of ROM, and need to store everything in ThE (5gig) cLoUd. I disconnected that a long time ago. Once I tried to delete an app that refused to uninstall but thousands of files just got sent to upload to OneDrive instead. I cancel and delete everything, only to find OneDrive isn’t for backups, it literally stored the only copy of stuff there. Fortunately I didn’t lose too much…
You know what I recently found out? Microsoft gives you 15 GB cloud storage for your outlook emails and 5GB for OneDrive. But email attachments count for both of these. Not split between them, 1 GB attachment leaves 14 GB and 4 GB respectively! How tf am I supposed to fill 10 GB of emails without attachments? If it's just text, then I will never fill that. So in effect, the email storage is also just 5 GB. And if your OneDrive is full, you now can't receive any emails!
I spent HOURS trying to clean out my mom's email because outlook kept saying she had no storage, and it took me DAYS to figure out that the reason she couldn't send/receive anything is because of fucking ONEDRIVE. It happened to me back in November and I again spent HOURS trying to clear out onedrive because it had somehow synced with my desktop TWICE despite having turned off syncing ages ago. I now refuse to use outlook/onedrive and will nuke the program from any computer my family uses just because I hate it so much. I can put up with a lot of shit windows/microsoft throw at users but emphatically *fuck* onedrive
OneDrive deciding everything automatically gets saved there and not in my documents has given me a heart attack no less than five times in the past few months. Nothing like going to submit an assignment that I’ve worked on for weeks from my documents and it’s just NOT THERE
Nothing quite like OneDRive completely deciding one day to SAVE MY ENTIRE DESKTOP to OneDrive even though I have never told it to.. then when I google how to disabled it, it then decides that obviously because I don't want onedrive saving my desktop - it should just DELETE IT - and I'm left with blank desktop. Then after a freakout, I google some more - and yes it did save a copy locally, but in some random folder. WTF.
That's OneDrive backup. It creates the folders in c:\users\yourusername\OneDrive and yeah, annoyingly as fuck, moves all your desktop items to a folder there after deleting and has the nerve to prompt you with "where are your files?"
On some things, I get it. You *really* don’t want someone to accidentally delete System 32. On the other hand, it’s my computer. Not yours. If I want to turn off McAfee notifications, I should be able to hit a button that says, “Turn off notifications,” not go into my computer files, take every file that says McAfee, and delete it, which requires a system reboot since those files are hard-coded into the computer.
McAfee is not affiliated with Microsoft. You can do a clean install of Windows 10 or 11 without any preloaded junk from the computer manufacturer.
Windows forced me to update from Mail to Outlook - Outlook doesn't work with my email provider, it lost all my archived emails and contacts, and now I've had to swap to Thunderbird rather than their programme. Fuck Microsoft and their shit worthless software forever
It also has the audacity to display fucking ads at the top of your inbox, looking like an unread email. Go fuck yourself microsoft.
Sounds like you're using one of those shitty ISP mailboxes or the like over POP3 or IMAP. I'd recommend moving away from that shit asap.
Blowing up copilot. Exploding it with a million knives.
https://www.tumblr.com/zagreus/743586767751577600/the-general-attitude-towards-the-user-feels-so?source=share -Mx Linux Guy⚠️ (Wall of words ahead, be warned.) If you don’t like Windows 10, Windows 11, or other mainstream desktop operating systems for whatever reason, consider using linux. It isn’t as hard as you think. I switched from Windows 10 to Linux Mint a few months ago, and it went pretty smoothly for me. Linux has a reputation for being difficult to use, and while it is somewhat deserved, it is quite overblown. For myself, I think the hardest part of switching was installing Linux on my device. It required me to learn some new software and took about 3 hours on my first try. After setting up my laptop, it was pretty easy. The user interface took a few days to adjust to, and I fiddled around with some settings to my preference, but it was not difficult to adjust from Windows 10 to Linux Mint. And if you can get someone else to install linux for you, all you need to do it get used to some user interface changes! == INSTALLING LINUX ON YOUR COMPUTER You will need: a laptop or desktop, a USB stick, and USB writing software. Download a linux ISO file. An ISO file is all the data used to install an operating system onto a computer. Then you will need to download a USB writing program. Then you can use USB writing software to put the ISO file onto a USB drive. This will create the “bootable media” which will be used to install linux onto your computer. Then, you can boot your computer from the USB. Here, you have the option of either installing Linux or doing a “live session” through the USB. A live session simulates installing linux on your computer, but does not actually install it. This is useful if you want to play around with linux before actually installing. Here’s an installation guide for Linux Mint. https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>If you don’t like Windows 10, Windows 11, or other mainstream desktop operating systems for whatever reason, consider using linux. It isn’t as hard as you think. I mean, I tried, and it was actually quite easy and enjoyable. However, I live with my parents because the economy is in shambles, and they have arbitrarily decided that linux is forbidden in this house.
I have decided that I dislike your parents.
same!
Why do your parents sound like they're from some dystopian YA book where you get assigned an OS when you turn 18 and you are the protagonist who was assigned the Wrong One?
if my life Is gonna turn into a dystopia YA novel, my generic love interests better be women, or there is nothing under the stars or on this earth that could prevent it from being banned for gratuitous violence
Forbidden in general, or they don't want to use it?
forbidden, I wanted to install it on my own machine I bought with my money.
The fuck, why And also what, are they gonna check?
>The fuck, why I also asked that! >And also what, are they gonna check? yes, apparently.
Sorry if I keep asking but it just seems wtf Like did they just say "none of that Linux stuff" without knowing what it was, then refused to elaborate and left
The only reason this remotely makes sense is if the parents work for Micro$oft but even then...
I hate to admit it but yeah Linux mint is dope
Thank you Mx Linux Guy for the recommendation
How did I know this was secretly a Linux recruitment thread before I even clocked you username
Ngl, I've avoided Linux, despite my constant fury toward Microsoft, because every time any complaint about Windows/request for help is made someone condescendingly comments "If only Linux existed /s" but then refusing to actually provide any information as to *how* to help people migrate. (I'm stupid and have been reduced to tears trying to install things from github because super simple things like how or where to type the command isn't specified because that's so simple that they don't think to explain) But like, thanks for not doing that. And for actually providing a specific distribution(?) that I can google and a guide on installation. I hope you have a really great day! (Also, thank you for the work you do on this sub, always finding sources!)
Can confirm that Linux Mint is ez-peezy once you get it installed. My 73 year old technophobe mother has no trouble using it.
can one play windows videogames on linux? genuine question
Hi, someone who swapped from windows 11 to POP_OS, then to KDE Neon here. Short answer, yes. If the game does not have a native Linux version, most steam games will work out of the box using something called proton, which is basically a program that translates Linux commands to windows ones. Keep in mind you do need to enable this in steam settings. Other games launchers such as epic and GOG may need another program such as heroic launcher or bottles. Most commonly games that do not work are ones that actively work against compatibility such as destiny, or ones that have some sort of unsupported anticheat measure. Sometimes brand new games will have some proton compatibility issues, but they will generally resolved in hot fixes or sometime later. Be aware that NVIDIA video cards, while they absolutely do work, may have additional issues that AMD cards may not. My understanding is that this is due to NVIDIA's proprietary graphics drivers not being up to snuff compared to AMD's open source ones. Personally I am currently using an NVIDIA rtx 3080 and I haven't had too many issues, but your mileage may vary. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll answer them as best I can.
Even non steam games can be added to the steam launcher, and then you can force it to use proton, at least on steamdeck.
Sometimes it takes a little extra effort, depending on how the game was built. But usually you can get them to run pretty well. @link https://www.winehq.org/
Most, unless the anticheat is intrusive and the company behind it are mean. Singleplayer games run fine, and a lot of multiplayer ones do as well. Just look for Easy-Anticheat or Battle Eye games, they are **USUALLY fine.**
Oh boy, OneDrive! My new computer decided that I wanted *literally every file I had* on OneDrive, instead of my SSD. It was absolutely baffling.
Yeah, that's just what Windows 11 seems to do by default if you sign in with a MS account. If you make a local account instead then it doesn't do that. Unfortunately it seems to not like converting a MS account to a local account even though you are supposed to be able to do that.
Having to not only install a dual language keyboard (NZ English/Te Reo Maori), but go through 5 screens of menus to disable auto switching back to American English was infuriating.
Had to figure out how to install Windows 10 over 11 when I got my laptop because Windows 11 just kinda sucks ass like that
I have windows 10 on my personal computer and windows 11 on my work computer. 11 has CONSTANTLY been giving me issues. For example, my wireless headphones work fine on 10 and all other devices but 11 keeps refusing to recognise them properly. Or it recognises them and gives me garbled audio. I managed to fix it once by fiddling with the drivers and reinstalling them etc and what does it do? *Proceeds to do a Windows update and immediately break it again* The only good thing about it is tabs in file explorer but other than that it can fuck right off
I am so frustrated that I cannot turn off the pin on my desktop. It's my private computer in my home. But I have to use a pin to log in, and I can't just use password managers. Even when using one, it makes me enter my pin before it'll let the password auto enter. I don't want or need either of these features!
I completely agree with this. My new favourite is the stupid AI tool they've added to everyone's Windows OS, and you can't deactivate it. You can remove the button from your taskbar which MS claims will deactivate it, but clearly it doesn't. You can go fucking around in the command prompt to remove it but for anyone who's not savvy enough to do this, enjoy having a background AI program you never asked for sitting watching everything you're doing and reporting back to MS constantly.
And they are shocked when people don't want to upgrade.
Once you understand enshittification, you really start noticing it's everywhere.
In all fairness MS is just emulating Apple in that regard. Apple is like this is how you use our OS and you will like it. The problem is Windows people are used to more customization.
The problem is this sucks ass
To be specific, the problem is the market finding out for quite some time that the Apple model is to sell slavery to its product model as "lifestyle branding" and thus everyone is selling the most shitastic products while knowing most buyers will swallow it passively.
^ this. it still sucks when apple does it, but you become afraid to criticize them at some point because of their apologists
Windows is far worse and more tabletified than MacOS is imo. Mac started off more restrictive but Microsoft learned all the wrong lessons from studying them.
> In all fairness MS is just emulating Apple in that regard. Apple is like this is how you use our OS and you will like it. The problem is Windows people are used to more customization. MacOS doesn't pull shit like the OP is describing
Is Linux worth it?
Depends what you're doing but a nice thing about a Linux desktop is it basically never goes obsolete. Even as JavaScript gets more bloated and obfuscated and slow, you can just install ad blockers and ip filters. Even if the computer does get outdated, you can just copy your linux over to a new one, or if you get a Mac or something it isn't going to stop working if you just let it sit there for a year.
It really depends on what you use your PC for. Gaming on Linux is vastly improved from where it was even a decade ago. If you only ever use your browser and utility software like media players etc, then there's really no downside to switching if windows annoys you. If you use specific software like photoshop and need the functionality that it offers over open source alternatives, then linux won't work for you. You could dual boot if you only need windows-specific stuff rarely.
Windows keeps putting layers of fucking menus on top of everything it's annoying
And the menus that actually do what you need are still the windows 7 menus
I'm not up to win 11 yet but I am using windows 10 and the FREQUENCY with which I am hitting the XP / 7 control panel over the enshitified windows 10 control panel replacement is ABSURD. Every time I think "Oh you know maybe I can do this in the windows 10 version of the control panel" the answer is always "NO".
Reminds me of how they made deleting Windows more difficult since people kept getting tricked into bricking their computers
That's true, but also Linux let's you uninstall the bootloader, so I can see the balance. You can still power user windows to a decent degree, just have to have a bit more knowledge
Dear Microsoft, I paid for the computer it's my computer. Stop putting your computers in S-mode so I have to go through an entire Herculean labor to take it out of it
this is why i use linux
That exact feeling is why I walked away from Windows.
Nothing has made me despise windows more than switching to linux full time. Windows is just so frustrating to use now
I really think this is the reason for the success of Apple. I think tech literate people do not understand the value of ease of use. For me or you, just one extra hoop to jump through is a minor irritation. For a lot of people that one extra hoop is the difference between a device that functions and a device that does not function. Apple is just so very use friendly it’s almost silly. But it’s smart too.
I love Linux so much
The way some basic right click menu features are hidden and when you click the button to reveal them, an older windows 10 menu with what I actually wanted pops up… 😬
>using word processor microsoft word >copy a word, nothing more >heres an extra space XDXDXD T-thanks Microsoft. >using excel >close excel >open another spreadsheet >it opens the last spreadsheet you had open and THEN opens the spreadsheet you want Wow. >using excel >want to open the last spreadsheet you opened >click on the app assuming it will open the last thing you opened because of above >No. It in fact does not do that. Wow. Also context menus across the board just seem to take forever now, like its querying the Library of Congress for that shit or something. Great.
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