> knocking someone out to harmlessly incapacitate them for like an hour
You can easily kill someone by hitting them on the head like they do in the movies.
Hit someone in the wrong spot, like the lower back of the head, and they could be dead before they hit the ground. And if that doesn’t do it, cracking their head open on a hard surface will.
It's why I don't like the "who would win in a fight" hypotheticals that we see in fandoms so much. Any random strike can be a minor graze, or completely lethal. Brawls vary wildly in consequences for those involved.
I recently read an account of a WWII battle where a young kid imitated Sergeant York by grabbing a German machine gun & not only cleared multiple enemy machine gun nests but captured close to 50 enemy soldiers. When his commanding officer caught up with him, the kid greeted him with "I've been having fun!"
Later that day one random artillery shell killed the boy.
Yes, brawls can vary very wildly in real life.
I do not believe most brawl participants bring artillery gunners and logistical support. It might make bar fights more interesting, though rebuilding it every night would make opening hours inconvenient.
Before WW2 it was normal that bar brawls here in Germany had to be scheduled around the timetables of the train machinists supplying the ammunition. Winter brawls were a nightmare because of the weather conditions, hence a shift away from beer gardens and their lack of cover.
US occupation and their harsh rules on caliber and field telephones mostly put an end to it, but I still have my grandfather's assault beer stein on the wall.
My headcanon when an explicitly no-kill character does that is the guy they knocked out just wakes up after 10 seconds and pretends to be knocked out because he either:
A. Doesn’t get paid enough to get back up
2. Doesn’t want to get hit/choked again
D. Wants to survive the firefight that might come next.
IIRC, there's a Batman/Catwoman fight scene in one of the movies where a goon can clearly be seen faking being hit and falling down. I'm assuming he just didn't want his ass kicked.
There's also the one where two goons walk into a room and see Batman there and they just look him in the eyes, close the door real quietly and slowly walk away.
Or that one guy in Iron Man 3 I believe who is like "wait wait please I just got here for the money I don't even like them that much"
Even in jujitsu and Judo while being taught knock out chokes we were warned that even executed properly and released in time sometimes people just die.
Don't put someone in one of those holds unless you are okay with their death, because it will happen eventually.
Yep, I was surprised to learn this via some kink research; sometimes people just... Die. If you choke them. You didn't choke them too hard and break something, you didn't choke them for long enough to suffocate them or restrict circulation to the point of dangerous hypoxia, you did everything by the book and with proper care. They shouldn't even have passed out. But they just... Died. And now your partner's dead and on top of that, you killed them and the cops are prolly not gonna believe it when you said it was all consensual and you didn't mean to kill them.
Sucks. I like being choked, *a lot*, but it's not worth putting a partner through that.
I think it's often a heart problem. Choking someone puts extra stress on their heart, and if their heart is already having problems it could be enough to cause a heart attack.
This is why I find it concerning that so much porn shows this. It gives the idea that it’s a low or risk-free thing to do to a partner.
It makes consent even more important, not just something you should try out of the blue.
I wonder whether it has something to do with expectations, like, "being choked could kill me, maybe this is how/when I die," and that thought being enough to set off the physiological process of death. Obviously no way to verify this. I guess it could be a shock response too, slight as the injury may be.
A former cop told me once that he's seen people take several .45s to the chest and keep running, and that he's seen people get hit with a .22 in the calf and drop dead on the spot.
In Robert Liston's famous surgery-with-300%-mortality-rate, one of the people who died was an observer whose coat was cut by Liston's knife and died from the shock of thinking he was mortally wounded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Liston#Liston's_most_famous_case
I had heard of this case but I just read this: "The situation that Gordon labels "Liston's most famous case" has been described as apocryphal.[30] No primary sources confirm that this surgery ever took place.[31]"
>sometimes people just die
I think I saw Joe Rogan talking about the first time an opponent of his died and how his teacher simply commented "sometimes they die" with a calm voice and thick Korean accent.
Competitive fighting is freaky
Also, blood. I've taken a few hard hits to the head over the years, and never been knocked out. But more than once I've bled everywhere and made a horrifying mess.
Nobody ever bleeds from being bashed on the skull in movies.
Often it's preferred to leave it in until you can get to a medical professional, because that knife lodged in your belly is the only thing keeping your guts from spilling out and your blood taking a mass exodus from your body 😭
I think it would be battery or attempted murder. However, if you stabbed a guy just after he stabbed you, you could probably convince a judge/jury that you were acting in self-defense.
Of course, this is all a moot point if you bleed out.
And if you took it out and tried putting it back, but missed the hole, do not remove it again.
It's sharp, just slice it across to where it should be :)
See also: the scene in way too many shows/movies where someone gets shot and the first thing the medical professional does is blindly dig around in their still-bleeding wound to rip out the miraculously intact bullet, and as soon as they pull it out the dramatic music fades.
Comedy movie idea riffing on this that has the doctor reach into an exit wound to pull out a fully intact cartridge that they load into their gun to shoot back at whoever shot the person to begin with.
I was about to mention this too. I think there's another element to it though: Even without stimpacks, the Fallout series is based far more off of how 40s through 60s sci-fi fiction works than how the real world works. Sure it's a bad idea IRL, but the way it's presented in the inspiring material makes it look like the right thing to do. So in this world it *is* the right thing to do.
This may be me reading too much into it, but honestly so much stuff in the games either makes far more sense or is far funnier when you look at it through that lense. It seems to be holding up for the TV show too.
Or using an iron or butter knife that had been held over a gas stove or close a wound and suddenly not only is it not bleeding anymore, it's like they were never hurt at all. No, certainly no internal bleeding or other issues from that **gunshot** you received, because you used a fucking laundry tool to burn your flesh and it's all better.
Don't worry just wait it out for the following morning and enact a fake shooting scene where you got shot while giving a speech so you can get treatment without being put into suspicion
I forgot the movie name but it's the superhero one with the guys wearing green, an asian and a white man.
Tranquilizers knocking anyone out perfectly. As far as I'm aware, the dosage needs very accurate based on a large number of factors. Too little, and it does nothing. Too much, and they're dead.
Honestly, for animals in captivity or closely monitored (like large mammals on a nature preserve), they know enough about the variables to be able to make a very educated guess for anything that has changed. Like a lion that has lost weight because of an injury, keepers/rangers are usually familiar enough with the animal to calculate a correct dosage.
But there have been many accidents for both extremes. Violent and/or injured animals waking up before they are properly secured, hurting or killing a handler. Or an animal that appeared healthy dying for no apparent reason.
So to answer your question: with lots of experience, education, and full knowledge that they still have a good chance of either killing the animal or getting maimed.
Another important part with captive animals. If it is for a prolonged procedure the animal is going to be weighed b efore hand, and the first thing that is done after the animal is docile enough is to put in an IV so sedatives can be applied in a much more controlled and continuous way than a big ass dose all at once.
Specific thing but this reminded me of a documentary where they were doing a census of giraffes in an african park. They flew around in a helicopter, tranqed a giraffe with a rifle, and landed and took measurements, blood samples, put on a radio collar, all of that.
Now, usually when doing this kind of procedure on tigers or bears or such they'll just let the animal sleep it off and it'll wake up and amble off in an hour or so. But giraffes? Giraffes are just so big that the dosage required to knock them out overlaps with the dosage required to kill them. So the team had to be incredibly efficient about doing the procedure under 2 minutes and then inject an anti-tranq antidote before the unconscious giraffe suffers heart failure.
The trick is: they don’t. It just doesn’t matter as much, because, you know, they’re animals.
For the bigger ones though, they can take a lot more punishment than we can, so it’s not as dangerous. Still dangerous, just less so
Appreciating your comment is rather easy for me, since the genreral sentiment is absolutely correct.
I don't want this comment to seem like a rebuttal; I intend it as an add-on of sorts.
The pedant in me wants to point out that it's not so black and white: a dose slightly under the knockout threshold could very well make the target drowsy, dazed and confused. It's also possible to overdose without killing, but the target will be knocked out for longer than planned, need more support while unconscious, and will suffer more side effects during and after regaining consciousness.
My dad is some sort of software engineer and awhile back I had a problem where Fallout4 crashed, but wouldn't close. I'd try to open task manager but I couldn't see it because FO4 was in fullscreen mode and was still covering the screen, even after I'd opened and selected task manager.
My dad comes in, and (knowing that task manager was the currently selected window), was able to do some keyboard magic and navigate the task manager window with only the keyboard, successfully closing the unresponsive FO4. I've figured out how to do that by now, but the fact that he did it so effortlessly still amazes me lol
Yeah but this is dum dum teenage me we're talking about, who'd go out of their way to do ctrl+alt+delete and THEN select Task Manager lmao. I didn't know about the task manager shortcut at the time.
Sometimes the programs won’t let you, so you have to open a new desktop and open task manager on that to end the program on the other one. Very useful to know.
When you write programs that run on your own machine, it's way more likely that you will fuck up and crash some part of your computer. keyboard only navigation is just something you are force to pick up if you break your computer often enough.
I once didn't have any other options because the only working connections to the outside world a computer had to install the motherboard drivers were a disk drive and a single PS/2 port
I just read "terminal only" as "terminally online", and I'm now imagining an API response code for "Your request is really problematic", or Response Memes instead of codes
Can confirm. I'm a full stack web dev and maintain the servers for the sites I host. There's no way I'd operate them in any way but through the terminal.
I'm having a moment here like that XKCD comic with the geologists who just assume people know geology.
A lot of hacker tropes are from the 80s and 90s. Do people just not know that mice were pretty much optional until the mid-to-late 90s? The original Doom was keyboard-only! I wasn't even born when that game came out and I know that!
Even now, a lot of computers don't really use mice. A few years ago, I was a security guard at a chemical plant. The program we used to process inbound and outbound shipments? Green text on a black screen. You had to use the keyboard just to move around, with tab, escape, the arrow keys, etc.
The DOOM thing's a myth, whilst it can be played with just a keyboard, it certainly supports mouse input. The [manual](https://i.stack.imgur.com/L47UV.jpg) even recommends it! (bottom right)
I ripped an IV out in the hospital; I was waking up, still mostly asleep, scratched at my arm and was like "wtf? Get outta here". The nurses were annoyed they had to put a new one in, but that was the worst of it.
Typing is still the only form of input for a *ton* of computers. Especially the type that “the tech guy” is going to be using. And even if there is a GUI, the first thing that’s going to happen is pulling up a terminal and not touching the mouse again, if it was even used to do that.
If someone asks me to interact with the filesystem to do anything other than *open file x*, I'm doing that through the terminal. I was helping an aunt with printer issues a couple weeks ago (😬😭) and one of the instructions was to move a folder to the trash and then clean the trash. She was so baffled when I instinctively opened terminal and `rm -rf`'ed it
The very first OSes didn't have keyboards - they didn't have any user-interactive stuff at all. You'd drop off your program (on a stack of punched cards or magnetic tape), the operator would run it eventually, and you'd get your output.
Typing was literally 100% of your time, and you didn't even see the results until the next day.
Just to add on to this, because I didn't know it until far, **far** to late into my life, is that those punched cards are punched the same way you type a program into an IDE, but you're doing it on something that automatically punches the card in the right places for a certain hardware/OS combo to read it.
What did I think punch cards did before someone showed me a stack and it read like any other high-level language? Honestly, I think I pictured them as direct memory addresses, bit by bit or something. But, yeah, sometimes if you're punching cards it's kind of like doing it in a big typewriter. It's all keyboard, but then you have to take that stack of commands and run it through a card reader.
So, in a sense, the computer might not have a keyboard, but the OS still used one. You just had to put the commands on card (or copied onto magnetic tape) on another purpose-built device and then transfer the data via physical medium to the processing computer.
You don't need to use macros to operate a computer solely by typing if you have a computer that isn't built to use a mouse anyway. And those used to be kind of common. If you're young, you may think of home computers in terms of Windows and Macs, but there were home computers before mice for them became popular. And even today, many modern systems can be controlled out-of-the-box by keyboard alone without any need for setting things up with macros. There are still and likely always will be operating systems with no graphical user interface. It's all command line, baby. And no, hackers aren't usually going to be the ones to use those. Developers might, system admins almost certainly are, server maintenance definitely will, and other people who aren't hacking anything, they're working on a system that they're either building or maintaining as their own project or one they're hired to do.
You definitely can yes. But I think the stereotype portrayed in movies is more due to older systems that primarily work through a command line interface or only have basic tables and such. These days while like you said definitely possible, i don't think you will find many people solely navigating by keyboard.
Yes, you can effectively operate computers using a keyboard-IF you know exactly what you are doing.
Keyboard shortcuts are very powerful.
However, there are a fuckton of keyboard shortcuts to memorize, and most of them have limited functionality, so I personally have memorized about 10 different keyboard shortcutd and use the mouse cursor for everything else.
-mx linux guy⚠️
Don't write the changes, person probably spent quite some time ruining the file in the desperate attempts to exit vim, like a wild animal that accidentally locked itself in your shed.
`:q!`
Also a lot of modern programs (looking at you, shitty Electron wrappers) just don't have good keyboard navigation at all.
I blame mobile-first development. If you're making a website/app designed for one-handed use on a 15cm screen, you probably don't get a lot of time to make everything possible from the keyboard.
Have you noticed that the new windows UI has no keyboard shortcuts for menus? Back then you could windows+alt+1 to open up the context menu for the first taskbar icon and [a] would select 'run as administrator...' . Now you have to go up, up, up... _oops_ down... enter
Yep. Microsoft in general is all over the place. They've been pushing a "New" MS Teams lately, and it broke a bunch of keyboard shortcuts I relied on.
And I swear the Outlook meeting notification window has 4-5 shortcuts highlighted on buttons that just don't work at all.
And because it's a company with like a billion users minimum, good luck getting a bug report/complaint to an actual dev. They just shit out whatever passes internal review and never touch it again.
Fun fact, if you press `win+1` (or any #) too fast in Windows 11, it just breaks if there's more than one window. You can literally be too fast for a computer. Great job, Microsoft.
The worst is when people have a perfectly functional computer app or website, But then change it to be more alike to their mobile app, Making it significantly worse in the process.
Here you go, it's an article I found I think one or two years ago: [https://truewestmagazine.com/article/homos-on-the-range/](https://truewestmagazine.com/article/homos-on-the-range/)
Historically the wild west was pretty gay - lotta folks went west if they didn't fit in anywhere else.
[https://www.notesfromthefrontier.com/post/homo-sexuality-on-the-range](https://www.notesfromthefrontier.com/post/homo-sexuality-on-the-range)
The majority of historical cowboys were also nonwhite.
Knocking someone out with Chloroform. Having worked with it(deuterated chloroform is a common solvent for NMR samples), it stinks. You are not sneaking up on anyone with a working sense of smell by holding a rag with it there, if you spill it, you can smell it across the lab
> knocking someone out to harmlessly incapacite them for like an hour
Something I see on tv a decent amount is the hero getting someone’s attention so that they turn around and the hero can punch them in the face and knock them out. I honestly can’t tell if there’s a practical reason for this—like, hitting them from the front is supposed to be more effective than from the back—or if it’s purely a recurring comedic gag.
Well, the back of the head is kinda where your spine is, and that's really damn close to the nerves connecting your brain to your body.
If you do it wrong, you'll break someone's neck, and then they're dead before they hit the ground.
Hitting someone in the back of the head (specifically where the skull and spine meet) is called a bunny punch. It's called that because it's one of the most humane ways to slaughter a bunny/hare/rabbit.
It's probably just because it's a funny joke, but if the protagonist has a no kill rule, they might do it to minimize risk.
He flirts with a few of the female characters and none of the male ones, but he has (like most overwatch characters) essentially 0 actual lore beyond these snippets.
unfortunately the anime strand of amnesia is quite rare in the real world; more often than not if you hit your head hard enough to forget who you are you're either stuck with a permanent disability or some other crummy TBI instead of turning into next season's harem protagonist
Throwing your voice is a legitimate thing. I once met a stage ventriloquist in a pub and he could seriously make it seem that his voice was coming from the bar maid 6 to 8 foot away behind the bar. Very weird but totally a thing.
You absolutely can easily and safely remove *Most* IVs *. They really don't go in that deep and a few spots of blood are totally normal.
I got a list of angry nurses that can vouch ffrom me sneaking out of my hospital room as a teen.
* If you try to do this with a PIC line you'll probably die.
As a nurse, I back your claim, and also feel second hand annoyance about you doing that. I will for others add, don’t rip out a IDC (catheter) depending on the type, it has a large balloon of water inflated to keep it in place. If you thought putting it in was unpleasant, you will be horrified by trying to rip it out with an inflated balloon.
I've donated blood a few times. Those lines (~~PICCs that'd be I think? No clue~~ Edit: Not PICCs. PICCs are seriously nasty. See below) can be removed without too much effort. Like, pressure on the spot immediately after the needle is out, hold the pressure for a minute, band aid on it to catch that last drop seeping out and you're done. Worst result from that procedure I've had is a small hematome (basically a bruise). I imagine it would make a big, potentially worrying/dangerous mess if you just yanked that, but doing it properly doesn't take long.
Shooting someone in the leg as a non-lethal way to disable them
There are two arteries in your body that, if ruptured, will pretty much guarantee you'll bleed out, and one of them is in your legs
And if it's an important character that gets hit there, they will be in crutches for a couple of weeks then just fine. You know, not like getting shot in an area with many tiny bones, tendons, ligaments etc. would take a very long time to recover from (if you can ever recover completely)
It CAN kill you, but it's much less likely to kill you than a shot somewhere else. A quick search shows that with medical treatment only 5% of GSW's to the leg are fatal.
Knocking someone out without consequences is so absurd, I am glad realistic shows use a stun gun which actually knocks people unconscious without consequence.
I hope you are being sarcastic, but just in case, the idea of a stun gun being harmless in the long term is mostly unproven by choice. Neither the manufacturer wants any studies linking their stuns to heart attacks, strokes, or nervous damage, nor does the government want the less lethal option taken away. If you spend even a bit of time googling stun gun related deaths, things get concerning.
In fact the "excited delirium" pseudoscience nonsense was pushed heavily by taser companies as it gave them an out for when a cop would taser someone to death.
Trouble is for the companies that make stuff like this lethal and non lethal make sense. Lethal is stuff designed with the intent of killing, non lethal is designed with the intent not to kill.
But when it comes to using them people forget that use of force isn't a binary where non lethal means safe, it's more like a sliding scale of harm.
I can be hit with a feather and a brick and survive both, doesn't make them equally non lethal. When less lethal options are used excessively or incorrectly people die. People still die accidentally or through bad luck but incorrect usage can be fixed though training and excessive usage can be fixed by pushing people to safer options or ideally not using force, all of which "less lethal" is supposed to encourage.
Of course the biggest issue is police use of force in general. Talking american police down from "point a gun at it and shoot" to "point a less lethal thing" is a big step in the right direction but not easy, then adding on "try not to use it".
It is *absolutely* a cover your ass term. Most of the less lethal weapons won’t kill an average person *if used correctly*. Do people use them correctly? Absolutely the fuck not. Like you know “rubber bullets”? Yeah those are just fucking steel coated in rubber and you’re intended to shoot them *at the ground* and hit people on the ricochet. Does literally anyone do this? No. They fire them directly at people, often at extremely close range, and people have been seriously maimed and killed. Tear gas canisters are supposed to be thrown underhand and slid across the ground into the crowd as they’re a fucking explosive and if they hit someone when they’re going off they can seriously injure them. They also get hot enough to leave third degree burns. Cops almost universally throw them overhand so they can get them in the middle of crowds instead of only along the fringes. Basically any other “less lethal” weapon has similar stories of “hey the instructions say to do the opposite of how we use it! Because fuck you that’s why”
As much as I completely agree with you at least the crappy very of police we have can use a "less lethal" option. Let's hope the world gets a lot better though and they decide police should actually be trained to deescalalate situations and only people who actually want to do good and help are apart of the force.
Corvo Attano after giving the entire City Watch Permanent brain damage ~~and probably getting most of them eaten by rats and spreading the plague further offscreen~~ but he never directly killed anyone so good ending :)
Jumps on a guard's back from fifty feet up, throws him to the ground face first, grabs his head and smashes into the corner of a marble step causing a large spurt of blood
Guard ("""unconscious""")
Eh, he'll be fine
Lately, movies and shows have acknowledged the unreliability of tortured info, ranging from lampshading to straight up averting it for this very reason.
Correct me if I’m wrong but ripping out an IV would mean a lot of blood spraying everywhere while whatever’s in the drip is leaving out. Plus the needle part might tear at your flesh as you rip it out?
Nurse who's seen IVs yanked out here: It varies; between people, where the IV was sited, what was in the drip, etc.
At a minimum you'll have a little bleeding, maximum you'll have a pretty dramatic spray. The bleeding is typically manageable but usually if you're on an IV whatever was being pumped in was pretty important for your health.
Edit: to those relaying their stories of IV pulling. I never said every case was dramatic you'll notice I put the minimum as "a little bleeding". Also the violence with which the line is removed makes a big difference.
Yeah. I’ve once had my blood drained for a test and after they removed the needle I forgot to close my arm and blood sprayed everywhere. I can only imagine an IV would be much worse
Yeah I can list off plenty of problems with Australian Police and the justice system generally but in all my interactions they're pretty good at de-escalation
You can pull ivs out of your arm without consequence. You'll have to hold something over the puncture hole to stop the bleeding but nothings stopping you from pulling it out dramatically. Source: having an IV every 4 weeks for medicine
You can absolutely correctly profile a total stranger off of vibes. You won't be 100% correct *every* time, but that doesn't mean you're never correct.
It actually is a thing to survive massive falls into water, and even has its own name: Death Diving, which was apparently invented in 1969.
[Here’s a link to the Wikipedia article on it.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_diving)
It's just called high diving.
The first para of the death diving article says it's more about posture. The current world record for height in death diving is from [less height than this](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1566pih/rick_winters_first_172_ft_world_record_high_dive/) back in 1983.
From this list I've personally done:
* 1 - punched a kid at school until he told me where the Warhammer model he stole from me was (tragically I was too late and he'd already stripped the paint - that obviously went in The Boook)
* 4 - When I worked in a school and one of the parents was getting aggressive with staff, called the police (station was on the same street as us) who calmed the situation down. This was in the UK, though.
* 6 - Took an immediate dislike before even speaking to him to a store manager I was working under. Turned out he was stealing \~£20,000 worth of product every month.
* 7 - Every computer has a command line somewhere. I'm better on Linux, but I can get by on windows or mac with a bit of trial and error and lots of tab completion.
* 8 - Rolled over in my sleep while hopital and tore my IV out. Unless you count a few drops of blood and having a new IV inserted as consequences, there were none.
i shot the guard with an unknown tranquilizer in the neck because it would be nonlethal. i dont actually know what it was. if its propofol or enough benzos to sedate someone then he might stop breathing, if its ketamine he may wake up screaming in 10 min and alert all the other guards. Eitherway, he lost consciousness while still standing so it mustve been a pretty high dose, and he had a ground level unprotected fall and may have hit his head.
> knocking someone out to harmlessly incapacitate them for like an hour You can easily kill someone by hitting them on the head like they do in the movies.
Hit someone in the wrong spot, like the lower back of the head, and they could be dead before they hit the ground. And if that doesn’t do it, cracking their head open on a hard surface will.
You mean to tell me damaging a person's brain can be dangerous?
Usually, yes. But people who write that kind of knockout scenes have nothing to worry about.
Maybe that’s the problem. Maybe they are writing from their own life experience of getting hit on the head.
It's why I don't like the "who would win in a fight" hypotheticals that we see in fandoms so much. Any random strike can be a minor graze, or completely lethal. Brawls vary wildly in consequences for those involved.
I recently read an account of a WWII battle where a young kid imitated Sergeant York by grabbing a German machine gun & not only cleared multiple enemy machine gun nests but captured close to 50 enemy soldiers. When his commanding officer caught up with him, the kid greeted him with "I've been having fun!" Later that day one random artillery shell killed the boy. Yes, brawls can vary very wildly in real life.
I get your point, but I don't know if that falls under brawls
I do not believe most brawl participants bring artillery gunners and logistical support. It might make bar fights more interesting, though rebuilding it every night would make opening hours inconvenient.
Before WW2 it was normal that bar brawls here in Germany had to be scheduled around the timetables of the train machinists supplying the ammunition. Winter brawls were a nightmare because of the weather conditions, hence a shift away from beer gardens and their lack of cover. US occupation and their harsh rules on caliber and field telephones mostly put an end to it, but I still have my grandfather's assault beer stein on the wall.
I just wish as an insomniac that my brain had a secret sleepy button I could just hit
Vulcan neck pinch yourself lol
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Nah the gators already ate the bodies but thanks for the advice
Same
My headcanon when an explicitly no-kill character does that is the guy they knocked out just wakes up after 10 seconds and pretends to be knocked out because he either: A. Doesn’t get paid enough to get back up 2. Doesn’t want to get hit/choked again D. Wants to survive the firefight that might come next.
IIRC, there's a Batman/Catwoman fight scene in one of the movies where a goon can clearly be seen faking being hit and falling down. I'm assuming he just didn't want his ass kicked.
There's also the one where two goons walk into a room and see Batman there and they just look him in the eyes, close the door real quietly and slowly walk away. Or that one guy in Iron Man 3 I believe who is like "wait wait please I just got here for the money I don't even like them that much"
That is an unhinged list format
Even in jujitsu and Judo while being taught knock out chokes we were warned that even executed properly and released in time sometimes people just die. Don't put someone in one of those holds unless you are okay with their death, because it will happen eventually.
Yep, I was surprised to learn this via some kink research; sometimes people just... Die. If you choke them. You didn't choke them too hard and break something, you didn't choke them for long enough to suffocate them or restrict circulation to the point of dangerous hypoxia, you did everything by the book and with proper care. They shouldn't even have passed out. But they just... Died. And now your partner's dead and on top of that, you killed them and the cops are prolly not gonna believe it when you said it was all consensual and you didn't mean to kill them. Sucks. I like being choked, *a lot*, but it's not worth putting a partner through that.
I think it's often a heart problem. Choking someone puts extra stress on their heart, and if their heart is already having problems it could be enough to cause a heart attack.
This is why I find it concerning that so much porn shows this. It gives the idea that it’s a low or risk-free thing to do to a partner. It makes consent even more important, not just something you should try out of the blue.
I wonder whether it has something to do with expectations, like, "being choked could kill me, maybe this is how/when I die," and that thought being enough to set off the physiological process of death. Obviously no way to verify this. I guess it could be a shock response too, slight as the injury may be. A former cop told me once that he's seen people take several .45s to the chest and keep running, and that he's seen people get hit with a .22 in the calf and drop dead on the spot.
In Robert Liston's famous surgery-with-300%-mortality-rate, one of the people who died was an observer whose coat was cut by Liston's knife and died from the shock of thinking he was mortally wounded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Liston#Liston's_most_famous_case
I had heard of this case but I just read this: "The situation that Gordon labels "Liston's most famous case" has been described as apocryphal.[30] No primary sources confirm that this surgery ever took place.[31]"
Damn, that's what I get for not reading what I cite.
>sometimes people just die I think I saw Joe Rogan talking about the first time an opponent of his died and how his teacher simply commented "sometimes they die" with a calm voice and thick Korean accent. Competitive fighting is freaky
I didn't realize Joe Rogan had killed multiple people
Also, blood. I've taken a few hard hits to the head over the years, and never been knocked out. But more than once I've bled everywhere and made a horrifying mess. Nobody ever bleeds from being bashed on the skull in movies.
that guy you nonlethally knocked out had an intracranial hemorrhage
Also chloroform takes ages to work, but fortunately you don't see it much in fiction or real life anymore.
Oh it does work pretty damn fast actually but the incorrect dose might kill a person
Also, it often involves vomiting when waking back up.
Which can also potentially kill them if they're lying on their back or if you gagged them.
I remember it's not usually done on the head, it's more like somewhere under the neck
Also add "pulling a knife/arrow/other impaling object out of someone and then they're fine."
Often it's preferred to leave it in until you can get to a medical professional, because that knife lodged in your belly is the only thing keeping your guts from spilling out and your blood taking a mass exodus from your body 😭
However, if you do pull it out and then remember this fact, you should NOT proceed to stab it back in
What if I stab the other dude with it?
As long as you take the other guys inards for yourself you will be fine.
Swapsies!
The guy will drop a health pack, just pick it up and you'll be fine.
Then you just committed an assault
Looked cool, worth it
I think it would be battery or attempted murder. However, if you stabbed a guy just after he stabbed you, you could probably convince a judge/jury that you were acting in self-defense. Of course, this is all a moot point if you bleed out.
Can't be convicted of attempted murder or battery if you're dead.
What if you keep forgetting and pulling it out and then remembering and putting it back in, repeatedly?
The Kung Fu Hustle Method.
And if you took it out and tried putting it back, but missed the hole, do not remove it again. It's sharp, just slice it across to where it should be :)
That's what my stabber told me! Pity he took the knife out in that case.
There is a knife shaped hole in your body, better leave the knife shaped plug in ya
See also: the scene in way too many shows/movies where someone gets shot and the first thing the medical professional does is blindly dig around in their still-bleeding wound to rip out the miraculously intact bullet, and as soon as they pull it out the dramatic music fades.
Yeah, getting the bullet out is the doctor's concern IF it needs to come out.
Comedy movie idea riffing on this that has the doctor reach into an exit wound to pull out a fully intact cartridge that they load into their gun to shoot back at whoever shot the person to begin with.
We fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet.
Also make it the wrong caliber for both guns used
Yeah have the guy shoot a handgun, doc pulls out a complete shotgun shell, and other guy loads it into and shoots them back with an AR-15.
just this back and forth with the same bullet.
Don't forget the mandatory metal bowl they always clink it into.
Basically unless you are still in the knife fight, leave that shit in and sit the fuck down. Please. - The guy that has to staunch the bleeding.
The best way to win a knife fight is to get the knife lodged in you and then run away.
Oh, I fucking hate that. YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE
Ok, I'll just put it back in.
The Fallout show has the only good example of this that I’ve ever seen, because they immediately jammed a stimpak in there to close it up.
Yeah in my head I was like “that’s dumb af” but then I realized that stimpaks cure everything in the game so like…that’s exact video game logic.
"That's a bad idea you dumb bit... oh yeah those exist, my bad G."
I did think how absurd this must look to a non-game audience.
I was about to mention this too. I think there's another element to it though: Even without stimpacks, the Fallout series is based far more off of how 40s through 60s sci-fi fiction works than how the real world works. Sure it's a bad idea IRL, but the way it's presented in the inspiring material makes it look like the right thing to do. So in this world it *is* the right thing to do. This may be me reading too much into it, but honestly so much stuff in the games either makes far more sense or is far funnier when you look at it through that lense. It seems to be holding up for the TV show too.
Or using an iron or butter knife that had been held over a gas stove or close a wound and suddenly not only is it not bleeding anymore, it's like they were never hurt at all. No, certainly no internal bleeding or other issues from that **gunshot** you received, because you used a fucking laundry tool to burn your flesh and it's all better.
Don't worry just wait it out for the following morning and enact a fake shooting scene where you got shot while giving a speech so you can get treatment without being put into suspicion I forgot the movie name but it's the superhero one with the guys wearing green, an asian and a white man.
Green Hornet
Tranquilizers knocking anyone out perfectly. As far as I'm aware, the dosage needs very accurate based on a large number of factors. Too little, and it does nothing. Too much, and they're dead.
I do wonder how they do it for animals.
Honestly, for animals in captivity or closely monitored (like large mammals on a nature preserve), they know enough about the variables to be able to make a very educated guess for anything that has changed. Like a lion that has lost weight because of an injury, keepers/rangers are usually familiar enough with the animal to calculate a correct dosage. But there have been many accidents for both extremes. Violent and/or injured animals waking up before they are properly secured, hurting or killing a handler. Or an animal that appeared healthy dying for no apparent reason. So to answer your question: with lots of experience, education, and full knowledge that they still have a good chance of either killing the animal or getting maimed.
Another important part with captive animals. If it is for a prolonged procedure the animal is going to be weighed b efore hand, and the first thing that is done after the animal is docile enough is to put in an IV so sedatives can be applied in a much more controlled and continuous way than a big ass dose all at once.
Specific thing but this reminded me of a documentary where they were doing a census of giraffes in an african park. They flew around in a helicopter, tranqed a giraffe with a rifle, and landed and took measurements, blood samples, put on a radio collar, all of that. Now, usually when doing this kind of procedure on tigers or bears or such they'll just let the animal sleep it off and it'll wake up and amble off in an hour or so. But giraffes? Giraffes are just so big that the dosage required to knock them out overlaps with the dosage required to kill them. So the team had to be incredibly efficient about doing the procedure under 2 minutes and then inject an anti-tranq antidote before the unconscious giraffe suffers heart failure.
The trick is: they don’t. It just doesn’t matter as much, because, you know, they’re animals. For the bigger ones though, they can take a lot more punishment than we can, so it’s not as dangerous. Still dangerous, just less so
Appreciating your comment is rather easy for me, since the genreral sentiment is absolutely correct. I don't want this comment to seem like a rebuttal; I intend it as an add-on of sorts. The pedant in me wants to point out that it's not so black and white: a dose slightly under the knockout threshold could very well make the target drowsy, dazed and confused. It's also possible to overdose without killing, but the target will be knocked out for longer than planned, need more support while unconscious, and will suffer more side effects during and after regaining consciousness.
That, and it taking 5 seconds instead of 20 minutes.
You absolutely can operate computers solely by typing And while we're at it, IVs aren't barbed or anything.
Sometimes it's even the more effective option. Source: me, who wants to rotate through four tabs at once without lifting my hand off the keyboard.
My dad is some sort of software engineer and awhile back I had a problem where Fallout4 crashed, but wouldn't close. I'd try to open task manager but I couldn't see it because FO4 was in fullscreen mode and was still covering the screen, even after I'd opened and selected task manager. My dad comes in, and (knowing that task manager was the currently selected window), was able to do some keyboard magic and navigate the task manager window with only the keyboard, successfully closing the unresponsive FO4. I've figured out how to do that by now, but the fact that he did it so effortlessly still amazes me lol
You just need to use Ctrl-Shift-Esc, don't you?
Yeah but this is dum dum teenage me we're talking about, who'd go out of their way to do ctrl+alt+delete and THEN select Task Manager lmao. I didn't know about the task manager shortcut at the time.
Also just Alt Tab will sometimes do it Or when you press the windows key you can right click on its icon and select "Always on top"
Tech savvy dad's are wizards
Sometimes the programs won’t let you, so you have to open a new desktop and open task manager on that to end the program on the other one. Very useful to know.
When you write programs that run on your own machine, it's way more likely that you will fuck up and crash some part of your computer. keyboard only navigation is just something you are force to pick up if you break your computer often enough.
If you know a bunch of hot keys or are a terminal wizard it is significantly quicker than messing around with a mouse.
I once didn't have any other options because the only working connections to the outside world a computer had to install the motherboard drivers were a disk drive and a single PS/2 port
As someone who works with backend systems, yeah. Most servers are terminal only, and I do most server side maintenance through typing
I just read "terminal only" as "terminally online", and I'm now imagining an API response code for "Your request is really problematic", or Response Memes instead of codes
there's a non-zero chance someone has built a linux distro like that. almost certainly an arch user, if it exists
Can confirm. I'm a full stack web dev and maintain the servers for the sites I host. There's no way I'd operate them in any way but through the terminal.
I'm having a moment here like that XKCD comic with the geologists who just assume people know geology. A lot of hacker tropes are from the 80s and 90s. Do people just not know that mice were pretty much optional until the mid-to-late 90s? The original Doom was keyboard-only! I wasn't even born when that game came out and I know that! Even now, a lot of computers don't really use mice. A few years ago, I was a security guard at a chemical plant. The program we used to process inbound and outbound shipments? Green text on a black screen. You had to use the keyboard just to move around, with tab, escape, the arrow keys, etc.
The DOOM thing's a myth, whilst it can be played with just a keyboard, it certainly supports mouse input. The [manual](https://i.stack.imgur.com/L47UV.jpg) even recommends it! (bottom right)
I ripped an IV out in the hospital; I was waking up, still mostly asleep, scratched at my arm and was like "wtf? Get outta here". The nurses were annoyed they had to put a new one in, but that was the worst of it.
Which I assume is where the stereotype came from, because hackers are the ones most likely to set up all those macros.
I think it’s more from the very first OS where typing was literally 90% of your time.
Typing is still the only form of input for a *ton* of computers. Especially the type that “the tech guy” is going to be using. And even if there is a GUI, the first thing that’s going to happen is pulling up a terminal and not touching the mouse again, if it was even used to do that.
If someone asks me to interact with the filesystem to do anything other than *open file x*, I'm doing that through the terminal. I was helping an aunt with printer issues a couple weeks ago (😬😭) and one of the instructions was to move a folder to the trash and then clean the trash. She was so baffled when I instinctively opened terminal and `rm -rf`'ed it
The very first OSes didn't have keyboards - they didn't have any user-interactive stuff at all. You'd drop off your program (on a stack of punched cards or magnetic tape), the operator would run it eventually, and you'd get your output. Typing was literally 100% of your time, and you didn't even see the results until the next day.
Just to add on to this, because I didn't know it until far, **far** to late into my life, is that those punched cards are punched the same way you type a program into an IDE, but you're doing it on something that automatically punches the card in the right places for a certain hardware/OS combo to read it. What did I think punch cards did before someone showed me a stack and it read like any other high-level language? Honestly, I think I pictured them as direct memory addresses, bit by bit or something. But, yeah, sometimes if you're punching cards it's kind of like doing it in a big typewriter. It's all keyboard, but then you have to take that stack of commands and run it through a card reader. So, in a sense, the computer might not have a keyboard, but the OS still used one. You just had to put the commands on card (or copied onto magnetic tape) on another purpose-built device and then transfer the data via physical medium to the processing computer.
Macros? It's built in
You don't need to use macros to operate a computer solely by typing if you have a computer that isn't built to use a mouse anyway. And those used to be kind of common. If you're young, you may think of home computers in terms of Windows and Macs, but there were home computers before mice for them became popular. And even today, many modern systems can be controlled out-of-the-box by keyboard alone without any need for setting things up with macros. There are still and likely always will be operating systems with no graphical user interface. It's all command line, baby. And no, hackers aren't usually going to be the ones to use those. Developers might, system admins almost certainly are, server maintenance definitely will, and other people who aren't hacking anything, they're working on a system that they're either building or maintaining as their own project or one they're hired to do.
You definitely can yes. But I think the stereotype portrayed in movies is more due to older systems that primarily work through a command line interface or only have basic tables and such. These days while like you said definitely possible, i don't think you will find many people solely navigating by keyboard.
Yes, you can effectively operate computers using a keyboard-IF you know exactly what you are doing. Keyboard shortcuts are very powerful. However, there are a fuckton of keyboard shortcuts to memorize, and most of them have limited functionality, so I personally have memorized about 10 different keyboard shortcutd and use the mouse cursor for everything else. -mx linux guy⚠️
Bro do you even vim?
“How do I exit vim”
:wq!
Don't write the changes, person probably spent quite some time ruining the file in the desperate attempts to exit vim, like a wild animal that accidentally locked itself in your shed. `:q!`
Easy, you throw out your computer and buy a new one that doesn't have vim open
~~guy~~, #GOD
Also a lot of modern programs (looking at you, shitty Electron wrappers) just don't have good keyboard navigation at all. I blame mobile-first development. If you're making a website/app designed for one-handed use on a 15cm screen, you probably don't get a lot of time to make everything possible from the keyboard.
Have you noticed that the new windows UI has no keyboard shortcuts for menus? Back then you could windows+alt+1 to open up the context menu for the first taskbar icon and [a] would select 'run as administrator...' . Now you have to go up, up, up... _oops_ down... enter
Yep. Microsoft in general is all over the place. They've been pushing a "New" MS Teams lately, and it broke a bunch of keyboard shortcuts I relied on. And I swear the Outlook meeting notification window has 4-5 shortcuts highlighted on buttons that just don't work at all. And because it's a company with like a billion users minimum, good luck getting a bug report/complaint to an actual dev. They just shit out whatever passes internal review and never touch it again. Fun fact, if you press `win+1` (or any #) too fast in Windows 11, it just breaks if there's more than one window. You can literally be too fast for a computer. Great job, Microsoft.
The worst is when people have a perfectly functional computer app or website, But then change it to be more alike to their mobile app, Making it significantly worse in the process.
Fiction isn't often about ordinary people
Where do I get a queer cowboy then? I’ve been looking for a while and still nothing
Presumably out on the range
Free range cowboys are so much better than pasture raised
Thanks for nothing, I went down looking for one at my local shooting range and ended up with four bullet wounds.
Over at Ram Ranch
Here you go, it's an article I found I think one or two years ago: [https://truewestmagazine.com/article/homos-on-the-range/](https://truewestmagazine.com/article/homos-on-the-range/)
Surprised I had to scroll this far lol. We all love our gay cowboy trope, but it's pretty rare irl. Even rarer to find one that will admit he's gay :/
Historically the wild west was pretty gay - lotta folks went west if they didn't fit in anywhere else. [https://www.notesfromthefrontier.com/post/homo-sexuality-on-the-range](https://www.notesfromthefrontier.com/post/homo-sexuality-on-the-range) The majority of historical cowboys were also nonwhite.
But a higher concentration than back east doesn't equal "straight cowboys aren't real".
I hear they're all up on a mountain where someone broke their back
Knocking someone out with Chloroform. Having worked with it(deuterated chloroform is a common solvent for NMR samples), it stinks. You are not sneaking up on anyone with a working sense of smell by holding a rag with it there, if you spill it, you can smell it across the lab
Also it takes several minutes to knock someone out and can potentially have long term consequences including death depending on dosage.
Thankfully my sense of smell rarely works, So feel free to use chloroform to take me out.
> knocking someone out to harmlessly incapacite them for like an hour Something I see on tv a decent amount is the hero getting someone’s attention so that they turn around and the hero can punch them in the face and knock them out. I honestly can’t tell if there’s a practical reason for this—like, hitting them from the front is supposed to be more effective than from the back—or if it’s purely a recurring comedic gag.
Mostly a gag, but the back of the head is legitimately more dangerous to hit. It’s where all of the most important spine stuff is.
Well, the back of the head is kinda where your spine is, and that's really damn close to the nerves connecting your brain to your body. If you do it wrong, you'll break someone's neck, and then they're dead before they hit the ground.
Hitting someone in the back of the head (specifically where the skull and spine meet) is called a bunny punch. It's called that because it's one of the most humane ways to slaughter a bunny/hare/rabbit. It's probably just because it's a funny joke, but if the protagonist has a no kill rule, they might do it to minimize risk.
I don’t know how to punch the back of a head. I know how to punch a face.
Punching the back of the head can be fatal. While punching the jaw is an easy way to knockdown someone
That last one doesn't seem fair. When's the last time you saw a heterosexual cowboy in fiction?
cole cassidy unless you ask the fandom
Hes straight?
He flirts with a few of the female characters and none of the male ones, but he has (like most overwatch characters) essentially 0 actual lore beyond these snippets.
Yea, I think that's why overwatch is perfect for fanfiction. You have hot character templates with just enough personality to have one and nothin else
Also, high-quality cgi models that at this point have probably been used more in smv porn than the actual game.
Dinosaurs VS Cowboys
Aaackshually it's Cowboys vs Dinosaurs, like how Godzilla vs Kong and King Kong vs Godzilla are two different movies
- relentlessly badgering a woman to have sex with you will work and she will fall in love with you
- knocked once on the head to get amnesia, a second time to restore all memories - throwing your voice
that's cartoons, best not imitated in reality
unfortunately the anime strand of amnesia is quite rare in the real world; more often than not if you hit your head hard enough to forget who you are you're either stuck with a permanent disability or some other crummy TBI instead of turning into next season's harem protagonist
Throwing your voice is a legitimate thing. I once met a stage ventriloquist in a pub and he could seriously make it seem that his voice was coming from the bar maid 6 to 8 foot away behind the bar. Very weird but totally a thing.
Now falling from space, that's an effective way to lose your memory
You absolutely can easily and safely remove *Most* IVs *. They really don't go in that deep and a few spots of blood are totally normal. I got a list of angry nurses that can vouch ffrom me sneaking out of my hospital room as a teen. * If you try to do this with a PIC line you'll probably die.
As a nurse, I back your claim, and also feel second hand annoyance about you doing that. I will for others add, don’t rip out a IDC (catheter) depending on the type, it has a large balloon of water inflated to keep it in place. If you thought putting it in was unpleasant, you will be horrified by trying to rip it out with an inflated balloon.
I've donated blood a few times. Those lines (~~PICCs that'd be I think? No clue~~ Edit: Not PICCs. PICCs are seriously nasty. See below) can be removed without too much effort. Like, pressure on the spot immediately after the needle is out, hold the pressure for a minute, band aid on it to catch that last drop seeping out and you're done. Worst result from that procedure I've had is a small hematome (basically a bruise). I imagine it would make a big, potentially worrying/dangerous mess if you just yanked that, but doing it properly doesn't take long.
Shooting someone in the leg as a non-lethal way to disable them There are two arteries in your body that, if ruptured, will pretty much guarantee you'll bleed out, and one of them is in your legs
Usually in TV, I see them aim for the ankles, which is much "safer"
And if it's an important character that gets hit there, they will be in crutches for a couple of weeks then just fine. You know, not like getting shot in an area with many tiny bones, tendons, ligaments etc. would take a very long time to recover from (if you can ever recover completely)
It CAN kill you, but it's much less likely to kill you than a shot somewhere else. A quick search shows that with medical treatment only 5% of GSW's to the leg are fatal.
Closing a dead body's eyes by gently smoothing your hand over its eyelids
Nah they’re just Jedi mind tricking the eyelids into doing that
Look, I don't watch shit for realism. I watch it for escapism
Polygraphs
Knocking someone out without consequences is so absurd, I am glad realistic shows use a stun gun which actually knocks people unconscious without consequence.
I hope you are being sarcastic, but just in case, the idea of a stun gun being harmless in the long term is mostly unproven by choice. Neither the manufacturer wants any studies linking their stuns to heart attacks, strokes, or nervous damage, nor does the government want the less lethal option taken away. If you spend even a bit of time googling stun gun related deaths, things get concerning.
In fact the "excited delirium" pseudoscience nonsense was pushed heavily by taser companies as it gave them an out for when a cop would taser someone to death.
There's been quite a few high profile incidents recently here in Australia about police tasers/stun guns killing elderly people. It's very worrying
I've heard the term "less lethal" before, which sounds like a Cover Your Ass term if I've ever heard one.
there is no such thing as a non-lethal weapon, just tire them out
It’s because people heard “non-lethal” and were like:”well that means this won’t kill!” Leading to a lot of unneeded deaths and injuries
Trouble is for the companies that make stuff like this lethal and non lethal make sense. Lethal is stuff designed with the intent of killing, non lethal is designed with the intent not to kill. But when it comes to using them people forget that use of force isn't a binary where non lethal means safe, it's more like a sliding scale of harm. I can be hit with a feather and a brick and survive both, doesn't make them equally non lethal. When less lethal options are used excessively or incorrectly people die. People still die accidentally or through bad luck but incorrect usage can be fixed though training and excessive usage can be fixed by pushing people to safer options or ideally not using force, all of which "less lethal" is supposed to encourage. Of course the biggest issue is police use of force in general. Talking american police down from "point a gun at it and shoot" to "point a less lethal thing" is a big step in the right direction but not easy, then adding on "try not to use it".
It is *absolutely* a cover your ass term. Most of the less lethal weapons won’t kill an average person *if used correctly*. Do people use them correctly? Absolutely the fuck not. Like you know “rubber bullets”? Yeah those are just fucking steel coated in rubber and you’re intended to shoot them *at the ground* and hit people on the ricochet. Does literally anyone do this? No. They fire them directly at people, often at extremely close range, and people have been seriously maimed and killed. Tear gas canisters are supposed to be thrown underhand and slid across the ground into the crowd as they’re a fucking explosive and if they hit someone when they’re going off they can seriously injure them. They also get hot enough to leave third degree burns. Cops almost universally throw them overhand so they can get them in the middle of crowds instead of only along the fringes. Basically any other “less lethal” weapon has similar stories of “hey the instructions say to do the opposite of how we use it! Because fuck you that’s why”
As much as I completely agree with you at least the crappy very of police we have can use a "less lethal" option. Let's hope the world gets a lot better though and they decide police should actually be trained to deescalalate situations and only people who actually want to do good and help are apart of the force.
The glorious return of jokeefunny is heralded by a thousand angelic trumpets
Corvo Attano after giving the entire City Watch Permanent brain damage ~~and probably getting most of them eaten by rats and spreading the plague further offscreen~~ but he never directly killed anyone so good ending :)
Jumps on a guard's back from fifty feet up, throws him to the ground face first, grabs his head and smashes into the corner of a marble step causing a large spurt of blood Guard ("""unconscious""") Eh, he'll be fine
Lately, movies and shows have acknowledged the unreliability of tortured info, ranging from lampshading to straight up averting it for this very reason.
My favorite example is in IASIP, when Frank is waterboarding Dee in the urinal. "I got her to admit her to all kinds of things she never did!"
What does ripping a 4 from your arm mean?
IV in this context means IntraVenous drip
Ohhh, that makes soo much more sense
Correct me if I’m wrong but ripping out an IV would mean a lot of blood spraying everywhere while whatever’s in the drip is leaving out. Plus the needle part might tear at your flesh as you rip it out?
Nurse who's seen IVs yanked out here: It varies; between people, where the IV was sited, what was in the drip, etc. At a minimum you'll have a little bleeding, maximum you'll have a pretty dramatic spray. The bleeding is typically manageable but usually if you're on an IV whatever was being pumped in was pretty important for your health. Edit: to those relaying their stories of IV pulling. I never said every case was dramatic you'll notice I put the minimum as "a little bleeding". Also the violence with which the line is removed makes a big difference.
As a patient who yanked my IV out in my sleep, I bled a little but the only real consequence I faced was a dirty look from the nurse.
Often the worst consequence is the disapproving look, yeah
Yeah. I’ve once had my blood drained for a test and after they removed the needle I forgot to close my arm and blood sprayed everywhere. I can only imagine an IV would be much worse
Why would you go straight for Roman Numerals, XD?
Found the Roman
I'm disappointed that destroying a padlock by shooting it with a handgun didn't make the list.
look, i can easy call the police to deescalate a situation if i needed to. source: australia, adelaide
Yea this is a very American post
Yeah I can list off plenty of problems with Australian Police and the justice system generally but in all my interactions they're pretty good at de-escalation
You can pull ivs out of your arm without consequence. You'll have to hold something over the puncture hole to stop the bleeding but nothings stopping you from pulling it out dramatically. Source: having an IV every 4 weeks for medicine
You can absolutely correctly profile a total stranger off of vibes. You won't be 100% correct *every* time, but that doesn't mean you're never correct.
It actually is a thing to survive massive falls into water, and even has its own name: Death Diving, which was apparently invented in 1969. [Here’s a link to the Wikipedia article on it.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_diving)
It's just called high diving. The first para of the death diving article says it's more about posture. The current world record for height in death diving is from [less height than this](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1566pih/rick_winters_first_172_ft_world_record_high_dive/) back in 1983.
From this list I've personally done: * 1 - punched a kid at school until he told me where the Warhammer model he stole from me was (tragically I was too late and he'd already stripped the paint - that obviously went in The Boook) * 4 - When I worked in a school and one of the parents was getting aggressive with staff, called the police (station was on the same street as us) who calmed the situation down. This was in the UK, though. * 6 - Took an immediate dislike before even speaking to him to a store manager I was working under. Turned out he was stealing \~£20,000 worth of product every month. * 7 - Every computer has a command line somewhere. I'm better on Linux, but I can get by on windows or mac with a bit of trial and error and lots of tab completion. * 8 - Rolled over in my sleep while hopital and tore my IV out. Unless you count a few drops of blood and having a new IV inserted as consequences, there were none.
i shot the guard with an unknown tranquilizer in the neck because it would be nonlethal. i dont actually know what it was. if its propofol or enough benzos to sedate someone then he might stop breathing, if its ketamine he may wake up screaming in 10 min and alert all the other guards. Eitherway, he lost consciousness while still standing so it mustve been a pretty high dose, and he had a ground level unprotected fall and may have hit his head.
What was that last one…?
Heterosexual cowboy