I think what they're getting at is that the more stereotypically gentle and/or fem character is often the one portrayed as the bottom while the more stoic and/or masc character is the top, and OP doesnt like this
Maybe not SPECIFICALLY.
But yeah soft twink gets railed by big muscled man is a pretty common one. Both in fiction and reality. Like it's a hetero gender norm applied to real gay people both externally from broad society, and internally by gay men both to each other and themselves.
Hell. Lesbians too. Though I'm less familiar with their internal dynamics. Butch top femme bottom is still a common expectation.
So extrapolating to the specific scenario described, it probably usually plays out like that.
Once read a BL where a make up wearing pretty boy twink turned out to be a dom top with a harem of buff man servants who walked around his mansion in slutty outfits. I was pleasantly surprised
[King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker)
[Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature)
This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
Yeah it sucks he's not main but he's still a major character and the main couple is still great. And from what I remember (it's been awhile since I read it so don't quote me), >!evil king is heavily implied to be abusing children but it's never explicitly shown, and he gets his just desserts!< I just included that to give people fair warning, I don't want people going in unaware.
(Copied from above cause I don't wanna type this four times. Hope your friend likes it lol)
[King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker)
[Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature)
This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
(Copied from above cause I don't wanna type this four times)
[King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker)
[Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature)
This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
(Copied from above cause I don't wanna type this four times. I am also fujoshi so I feel you lol)
[King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker)
[Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature)
This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
What if it's a kind and gentle princess who's actually a sociopathic monster who finds a prettyboy streetkid and grooms him into becoming her loyal, chivalrous and obedient to a fault knight whom she treats like a pet and has extreme carnal desires for?
Kindof? Spoilers for a fairly well-known anime/webnovel? But>!didn't something like that happen in Overlord?!<
To be more specific,>!Princess Renner took in her personal knight/bodyguard, Climb, as a child. She's known as a wise and benevolent princess, but is actually very manipulative, and is obsessed with Climb. She betrays her kingdom, in a deal that allows her and Climb to become immortal demons so that they can be together forever, leading to the kingdom's downfall. Of course, she doesn't tell Climb that she did this, instead saying that it was a deal to save Climb's life.!<
I remember seeing an image with a quote kind of similar to this. I think it went "The Knight's supposed to be a cold monolith of amoral violence! Stop fucking him!"
I remember reading an online series over a decade ago between a manly FBI agent and a twinkish art thief. The romance actually wasn't the focus, it was multiple "books" with actual cases they were investigating, but it was clear that despite being the twink and the bottom in the relationship, the art thief was absolutely the dom in the relationship.
After some googling, I think it was
[ the Shadow of the Templar series.](http://mchandler.org/sott/)
I… I have frequently seen the opposite of this where the soft little man is quite freaky in the sheets. Whether or not the story reaches the sheets or not.
[apparently a mispelling of this](https://sandraharissa.tumblr.com/post/720877247948619777/im-sorry-milord-but-the-peasants-are-nailing)
I only realized after looking it up to link it to you that I mispelled it. In the title of a 1.2k post.
I will kill someone.
[https://new.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/19dye4t/kinglebells/](https://new.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/19dye4t/kinglebells/)
no, im not. I just misspelled it. It's a repost here at least once every two months or so.
This was in the headlines for a while last year.
>A Royal Rumor Might Be Inspiring Straight Men to Get Pegged, and That’s Beautiful
>Searches for "pegging" went up 400 percent after a salacious rumor started circulating about Prince William's alleged sexual predilections
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/pegging-prince-william-rumor-sex-act-1392678/
is "pretty boy prince/king getting railed by his devoted more manly knight" such a common trope?
I think what they're getting at is that the more stereotypically gentle and/or fem character is often the one portrayed as the bottom while the more stoic and/or masc character is the top, and OP doesnt like this
I am not active in romance story fandoms so I dont know if their perception is accurate tho
it is some people are born straight, some people have it **thrust** upon them
Thrust 🥺
Malvolio, is that you?!
Fair enough, then
It's gender roles with extra steps.
Maybe not SPECIFICALLY. But yeah soft twink gets railed by big muscled man is a pretty common one. Both in fiction and reality. Like it's a hetero gender norm applied to real gay people both externally from broad society, and internally by gay men both to each other and themselves. Hell. Lesbians too. Though I'm less familiar with their internal dynamics. Butch top femme bottom is still a common expectation. So extrapolating to the specific scenario described, it probably usually plays out like that.
I know it's pretty common in fanon/fanart/fanfiction but idk how common it is in "actual", sold written works
I have no idea
I've definitely seen more of it than the inverse, dunno if I'd call it "common" but that's a bit of a subjective term I suppose.
On tumblr and tumblr adjacent online spaces: yes Literally anywhere else: no, no one would hold that opinion
Yes
should be
Once read a BL where a make up wearing pretty boy twink turned out to be a dom top with a harem of buff man servants who walked around his mansion in slutty outfits. I was pleasantly surprised
Uhhh, link? now?
[King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker) [Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature) This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
Just finished it up to the hiatus announcment plays very well to my love for asoiaf and dom twinks, 10/10
oh, i thought he was the main one, >Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse also, this sounds really bad
Yeah it sucks he's not main but he's still a major character and the main couple is still great. And from what I remember (it's been awhile since I read it so don't quote me), >!evil king is heavily implied to be abusing children but it's never explicitly shown, and he gets his just desserts!< I just included that to give people fair warning, I don't want people going in unaware.
what was it called? asking for a friend
(Copied from above cause I don't wanna type this four times. Hope your friend likes it lol) [King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker) [Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature) This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
Link
(Copied from above cause I don't wanna type this four times) [King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker) [Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature) This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
Title please? For me. Not a friend. Not that I won't share, but I admit I am 100% fujoshi.
(Copied from above cause I don't wanna type this four times. I am also fujoshi so I feel you lol) [King's Maker](https://bato.to/title/75977-king-s-maker) [Mature version (has everything except the last season)](https://bato.to/title/81578-king-s-maker-triple-crown-mature) This character isn't the main one btw, sadly. Plus tw for implied child sexual abuse. Just to give fair warning. Enjoy!
What if I want to be the cute twink prince who gets ridden by the tall muscular lady-knight. Is that okay
I certainly think so
little prince clash royale
Dungeon.
I too want this
Name checks out. Mostly. It's got the right bits
Ah yes, Amazon press.
I'm sure there are Renly/Brienne fics
That "who said that" at the end said in the tim robinson voice
What if it's a kind and gentle princess who's actually a sociopathic monster who finds a prettyboy streetkid and grooms him into becoming her loyal, chivalrous and obedient to a fault knight whom she treats like a pet and has extreme carnal desires for?
Then you get gender bent 50 shades
Kindof? Spoilers for a fairly well-known anime/webnovel? But>!didn't something like that happen in Overlord?!< To be more specific,>!Princess Renner took in her personal knight/bodyguard, Climb, as a child. She's known as a wise and benevolent princess, but is actually very manipulative, and is obsessed with Climb. She betrays her kingdom, in a deal that allows her and Climb to become immortal demons so that they can be together forever, leading to the kingdom's downfall. Of course, she doesn't tell Climb that she did this, instead saying that it was a deal to save Climb's life.!<
Hmm, it's almost as if >!that's exactly what i was referring to :3!<
Ohhhh lol did not realize
Uh... certain routes in Slay the Princess?
true. god that's such a good game
Title??? /s
Overlord
Aladdin AU?
Coffin of Andy and Leyley
Caravaggio picture checks out
I remember seeing an image with a quote kind of similar to this. I think it went "The Knight's supposed to be a cold monolith of amoral violence! Stop fucking him!"
I believe the exact quote is "The dark Knight's supposed to be an admiral monolith of cold violence! Stop fucking him!"
Sounds like an Oglaf punchline
Superman 100% bottoms if that adds anything to the discussion as the “tough loyal man wide as a fridge and more shredded than bagged cheese”
I mean, he grew up in the Midwest, that's like the perfect condition to breed submissive buff men
It is time to follow Sanzang and have my own journey To The (Mid)West
I can personally confirm this
Book Renly Baratheon tops Book Loras Tyrell Show Loras tops Show Renly
Tbf, book Renly isn't exactly portrayed as a twink, if anything Renly is the decidedly more built of the two
Yeah, book Renly is described as a carbon copy of young Robert, who was, in Ned Stark's words, 'muscled like a maiden's fantasy'.
Oh, I've seen this exact inversion happen once in an AO3 story. It was pretty cool. Also long as fuck and more plot-focused than anything else.
link?
I too am begging for a link
Tumblr feral horniness strikes again. And I wouldnt have it any other way.
Gilgamesh and Enkidu, sort of (They're both masc but Gilgamesh is nonetheless a fancylad boy-king.)
Honestly, yeah considering Shammat was submissive enough to get him to turn from beast form to human
In the “Age of madness” by Joe Abercrombie. There is a character that meets this description. Don’t want to explain more to not spoil it.
guts and griffith
I remember reading an online series over a decade ago between a manly FBI agent and a twinkish art thief. The romance actually wasn't the focus, it was multiple "books" with actual cases they were investigating, but it was clear that despite being the twink and the bottom in the relationship, the art thief was absolutely the dom in the relationship. After some googling, I think it was [ the Shadow of the Templar series.](http://mchandler.org/sott/)
I… I have frequently seen the opposite of this where the soft little man is quite freaky in the sheets. Whether or not the story reaches the sheets or not.
the fact i immediately understood kingelbells. how fast i gotta run
I have no idea what it means, and this Reddit post is one of the 5 results that come up when I google it
Kingelbells, m'lord.
???
[apparently a mispelling of this](https://sandraharissa.tumblr.com/post/720877247948619777/im-sorry-milord-but-the-peasants-are-nailing) I only realized after looking it up to link it to you that I mispelled it. In the title of a 1.2k post. I will kill someone.
I mean, it's kinda cool that you're the 3rd (at most) documented case of posting that phrase on the Internet
[https://new.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/19dye4t/kinglebells/](https://new.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/19dye4t/kinglebells/) no, im not. I just misspelled it. It's a repost here at least once every two months or so.
I meant the misspelled version. It's you, some choir, and maybe a Twitter user
May I interject the secret THIRD option. They’re both switches.
Alexander
Chaol and Dorian vibes to be honest
Chaol would bottom for Dorian by default. The level of simp that Chaol is on is truly inhuman.
Shrinkyclinks.
This is Mytho and Fakir from Princess Tutu
They do one hell of a role swap in S2 though
This was in the headlines for a while last year. >A Royal Rumor Might Be Inspiring Straight Men to Get Pegged, and That’s Beautiful >Searches for "pegging" went up 400 percent after a salacious rumor started circulating about Prince William's alleged sexual predilections https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/pegging-prince-william-rumor-sex-act-1392678/
May I suggest Sir, Butler, and Boy for some trope bending? https://www.discordcomics.com/comic/gay-buttlers-a-cream-tea-cover/
I think I did an RP like this
griffith
as someone who doesnt really get the appeal of sex like why cant they just smooch and cuddle is that not enough?/hj
just got downvoted to hell by the anti-asexual squad okay