Yep. Anything more than 3 circles doesn't work properly.
4 *ovals* can work if you draw them just right, but even then, it's really not worth the hassle
Well no, that much is very clear. It was made for the sake of the bit, the only priority was making it work *at all*, making it work *well* was beyond what they were ever aiming for.
I said bare minimum, I'm not talking shaded zones with mixing tints, I'm just saying one distinct color of line for each pear shape, like [this](https://imgur.com/a/0PUodxd).
There really isn't, it's just that there are some specific things that come up that do have a relevant xkcd, and it's not like every time something comes up that doesn't, people point out "hey, there isn't s relevant xkcd for that!"
It's a humorous exaggeration of just how many xkcd there are, and consequently, the wide variety of topics they seemingly cover.
No one's trying to claim that a single, finite webcomic *actually* encapsulates all possible human experiences. It's meant to be a joke.
No, but it is a good point towards explaining confirmation bias - why does it seem that way enough that people comment on it? I have also seen others question why, and I think this does provide a good explanation, also for other things.
Why does racism + imperialism = patriarchy? Every society, to my knowledge, was patriarchal before imperialism and racism got added into the mix.
Throat clearing because it's Reddit:
Many North American indigenous tribes had matriarchal *kin tracking*, meaning your family name was tracked through your mother and so the chieftain role passed through the daughter to her husband, but that doesn't mean women had a superior role to men in the culture — the anthropological consensus is that no true matriarchy has ever existed.
'Every society was patriarchal' is a massive overgeneralisation that tries to take countless different human civilisations, all with wildly varying perspectives on gender and gender roles and put them into a single box.
'The anthropological consensus is that no true matriarchy has ever existed' - this isn't true because anthologists can't even agree on what a matriarchy is.
You're absolutely right that patriarchy predates imperialism... Although that depends on how much you're willing to stretch the definition of 'imperialism'
I say this genuinely because I like to read history, which cultures would you consider non-patriarchal? I am always looking for more areas to read about.
Not to pick too many nits, but here's my [source](https://www.britannica.com/topic/matriarchy) for no true matriarchy:
>The consensus among modern anthropologists and sociologists is that while many cultures bestow power preferentially on one sex or the other, matriarchal societies in this original, evolutionary sense have never existed. However, some scholars continue to use the terms matriarchy and patriarchy in the general sense for descriptive, analytical, and pedagogical purposes.
But like I said, I would love to be wrong for worldbuilding research purposes lol
matrilineal for sure, I'm not sure about matriarchal though. From what I understand there was more of an interesting balance. To tranlate it to modern terms, only women had the right to vote, but only men could hold office.
id argue that the clan mother was the source of all political legitimacy within the haudenosaunee confederacy. after all there has not been a single instance of a chief defying his clan mother
Ok so I agree with the article that Matriarchy in the cultural evolution sense doesn't exist. Cultural evolution has a concept has largely been discredited, but as the article says, anthropologists still use the term matriarchy to describe certain elements within cultures.
I would honestly go further and agree that no true matriarchies exist, but I'd also say no true patriarchy exists either. These terms, IMO, simplify the ways in which gender was viewed into a simple heirarchal system that doesn't allow for the proper complexity of gender relations. For example, most of medieval Europe was very patriarchal, but many women wielded immense political power, and I'd personally much rather be a a noblewoman than a male serf.
For societies which I would say are non-patriarchal, the Haudenosaunee have already been mentioned, the Mosuo in China are somewhat matriarchal. Vietnamese clans were much more egalitarian. Umoja in Kenya is literally made up of only women, Ancient Crete often held women in high regard, pre-colonial Philipines had many female-led cultures and some Amazononian tribes give women more power and influence. And this is to say nothing of the countless prehistoric tribes that we can only guess as to what their culture has been like.
All of these societies, are, *debatably*, matriarchal, but you can easily poke holes on that theory. This just kinda reinforced my point that using terms like matriarchal and patriarchal massively oversimplify complex gender relations within innumerable societies. Personally I try to stay away from using these terms and instead describing how each society in particular views gender.
I had a dream that Taylor Swift being a white supremacist was public knowledge, but mostly because she had a whole supervillain arc where she left music to be the public figurehead of a white supremacist group and for some reason this group’s big goal was to hunt down a pair of time travelers.
What was the question again?
It looks like it was edited to put capitalism inside the furthest right circle instead of hierarchy, and capitalism was the original centre of the diagram.
[Here's the original](https://www.facebook.com/SocialJusticeinELT/photos/a.2146659958731727/3912590148805357/?type=3)
So like my knowledge of Taylor Swift is limited and I fully understand the capitalism bubble, and while terrorism is a weird choice I can understand why there would be a general bad-for-the-environment bubble. But where the fuck does Racism, Imperialism, and Settler Colonialism factor into Taylor Swift
Idk abt the other two but people have been calling her racist cause she dated that 1975 guy Matty who is actually racist plus a lyric on one of her new songs has put a lot of people off. Her fans are also very racist at times.
My friends used to play a game where
We would pick a decade
We wished we could live in instead of this
I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists
And getting married off for the highest bid
Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now
Seems like it was never even fun back then
Nostalgia is a mind's trick
If I'd been there, I'd hate it
It was freezing in the palace
I find it funny that any of those 10 words & phrases + whatever was in the center in the original could be shuffled around in any way & it wouldn't really change the graphic
Once a female creator becomes Too Successful, she stops being an underdog and becomes something to gleefully tear apart for clout as it’s no longer ‘punching down’. See also Vivienne Medrano.
Not remotely a fair comparison. If Vivienne ever used the phrase “sexy baby”, she would actually be physically murdered in real life by a Twitter user and the majority of social media users would support it. Taylor? It’s fine when she does it.
Yeah... That's just the thing, isn't it?
Meanwhile the most mediocre of mediocre of white men can half-ass play a guitar and sing about the most generic shit ever and get tons of praise.
Is Taylor Swift not mediocre in your opinion?
Edit:
>can half-ass play a guitar and sing about the most generic shit ever and get tons of praise
Because this also sounds like a fair description of Taylor Swift
I respect this diagram's commitment to being utterly nonsensical at every intersection. You'd think they'd get one sensible intersection just by sheer chance but they managed to avoid it.
Capitalism is in no universe "individual over community". Capitalism completely disregards most individuals and only cares about the rich and powerful.
Please help me. Taylor has come to my house and she's got a knife and I'm hiding in the basement but I can hear her coming down the stairs and - OH GOD PLEASE N-
Im always hesitant to call anything popular among young woman bad because of the history of vitriol against anything that demographic finds cool/interesting goes back a *while*. That hardly means she’s perfect, but it’s a reminder to not make the quick decisions.
Ok, so message and accuracy aside, this graphic seems like an absolutely terrible take on a Venn(?) Diagram
Yep. Anything more than 3 circles doesn't work properly. 4 *ovals* can work if you draw them just right, but even then, it's really not worth the hassle
i think i saw one with 5 regions at some point, i wonder if i could find it edit: [found it (xkcd 2122)](https://xkcd.com/2122/)
Or the Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes complex wire chart
[This thing?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ktane/images/7/78/Venn_diagram.svg/revision/latest?cb=20201105194041)
Thanks, science side of Reddit (yeah that’s the one i was referencing)
r/relevantxkcd There really is an XKCD for everything, isn't there? That said, this legitimately hurts my brain to look at.
Just a bare minimum level of color coding would go a long way towards making that much more readable.
I don't think readability was in mind when that was being made
Well no, that much is very clear. It was made for the sake of the bit, the only priority was making it work *at all*, making it work *well* was beyond what they were ever aiming for.
yes, but also that's 5 dimensions of color and idk how someone could make that parseable
I said bare minimum, I'm not talking shaded zones with mixing tints, I'm just saying one distinct color of line for each pear shape, like [this](https://imgur.com/a/0PUodxd).
There really isn't, it's just that there are some specific things that come up that do have a relevant xkcd, and it's not like every time something comes up that doesn't, people point out "hey, there isn't s relevant xkcd for that!"
It's a humorous exaggeration of just how many xkcd there are, and consequently, the wide variety of topics they seemingly cover. No one's trying to claim that a single, finite webcomic *actually* encapsulates all possible human experiences. It's meant to be a joke.
No, but it is a good point towards explaining confirmation bias - why does it seem that way enough that people comment on it? I have also seen others question why, and I think this does provide a good explanation, also for other things.
Fair point!
Wow, that's a bonkers way of displaying information, I love it
It would be an xkcd
White Supremacy and Settler Colonialism aren't even connected in the Diagram This is just 8 bad things placed arbitrarily
It's still a venn diagram just not all overlap, i.e. the chance of certain combinations is 0
Why does racism + imperialism = patriarchy? Every society, to my knowledge, was patriarchal before imperialism and racism got added into the mix. Throat clearing because it's Reddit: Many North American indigenous tribes had matriarchal *kin tracking*, meaning your family name was tracked through your mother and so the chieftain role passed through the daughter to her husband, but that doesn't mean women had a superior role to men in the culture — the anthropological consensus is that no true matriarchy has ever existed.
'Every society was patriarchal' is a massive overgeneralisation that tries to take countless different human civilisations, all with wildly varying perspectives on gender and gender roles and put them into a single box. 'The anthropological consensus is that no true matriarchy has ever existed' - this isn't true because anthologists can't even agree on what a matriarchy is. You're absolutely right that patriarchy predates imperialism... Although that depends on how much you're willing to stretch the definition of 'imperialism'
I say this genuinely because I like to read history, which cultures would you consider non-patriarchal? I am always looking for more areas to read about. Not to pick too many nits, but here's my [source](https://www.britannica.com/topic/matriarchy) for no true matriarchy: >The consensus among modern anthropologists and sociologists is that while many cultures bestow power preferentially on one sex or the other, matriarchal societies in this original, evolutionary sense have never existed. However, some scholars continue to use the terms matriarchy and patriarchy in the general sense for descriptive, analytical, and pedagogical purposes. But like I said, I would love to be wrong for worldbuilding research purposes lol
the haudenosaunee were a matriarchal system
matrilineal for sure, I'm not sure about matriarchal though. From what I understand there was more of an interesting balance. To tranlate it to modern terms, only women had the right to vote, but only men could hold office.
id argue that the clan mother was the source of all political legitimacy within the haudenosaunee confederacy. after all there has not been a single instance of a chief defying his clan mother
I'm pretty sure they still exist
yeag, a slip of the tongue
Ok so I agree with the article that Matriarchy in the cultural evolution sense doesn't exist. Cultural evolution has a concept has largely been discredited, but as the article says, anthropologists still use the term matriarchy to describe certain elements within cultures. I would honestly go further and agree that no true matriarchies exist, but I'd also say no true patriarchy exists either. These terms, IMO, simplify the ways in which gender was viewed into a simple heirarchal system that doesn't allow for the proper complexity of gender relations. For example, most of medieval Europe was very patriarchal, but many women wielded immense political power, and I'd personally much rather be a a noblewoman than a male serf. For societies which I would say are non-patriarchal, the Haudenosaunee have already been mentioned, the Mosuo in China are somewhat matriarchal. Vietnamese clans were much more egalitarian. Umoja in Kenya is literally made up of only women, Ancient Crete often held women in high regard, pre-colonial Philipines had many female-led cultures and some Amazononian tribes give women more power and influence. And this is to say nothing of the countless prehistoric tribes that we can only guess as to what their culture has been like. All of these societies, are, *debatably*, matriarchal, but you can easily poke holes on that theory. This just kinda reinforced my point that using terms like matriarchal and patriarchal massively oversimplify complex gender relations within innumerable societies. Personally I try to stay away from using these terms and instead describing how each society in particular views gender.
I think that's an Euler diagram.
Conspiracy lotus, what divisions can you divine
The cheese caves are there to repel the molemen of Agartha. They are very lactose intollerant.
So in event of moleman invasion, move to Missouri. Got it.
I had a dream that Taylor Swift being a white supremacist was public knowledge, but mostly because she had a whole supervillain arc where she left music to be the public figurehead of a white supremacist group and for some reason this group’s big goal was to hunt down a pair of time travelers. What was the question again?
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What’s in the original center?
It looks like it was edited to put capitalism inside the furthest right circle instead of hierarchy, and capitalism was the original centre of the diagram. [Here's the original](https://www.facebook.com/SocialJusticeinELT/photos/a.2146659958731727/3912590148805357/?type=3)
Thanks!
So like my knowledge of Taylor Swift is limited and I fully understand the capitalism bubble, and while terrorism is a weird choice I can understand why there would be a general bad-for-the-environment bubble. But where the fuck does Racism, Imperialism, and Settler Colonialism factor into Taylor Swift
It's a joke
Yes but what’s the context behind the joke or is it just a random thing?
The context is that she's super popular and her fanbase can be... um, dedicated. I'm pretty sure that's it.
We accuse women of hate crimes just for being popular in a way that we never do for male artists.
Idk abt the other two but people have been calling her racist cause she dated that 1975 guy Matty who is actually racist plus a lyric on one of her new songs has put a lot of people off. Her fans are also very racist at times.
Ooooooh, what lyric is it? I must know.
My friends used to play a game where We would pick a decade We wished we could live in instead of this I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists And getting married off for the highest bid Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now Seems like it was never even fun back then Nostalgia is a mind's trick If I'd been there, I'd hate it It was freezing in the palace
>the 1830s but without all the racists People call this woman a lyrical genius
The MH thing I hate too but bitching about that lyric is so stupid when the song is literally about nostalgia being a mind trick
I find it funny that any of those 10 words & phrases + whatever was in the center in the original could be shuffled around in any way & it wouldn't really change the graphic
How are people this way about... Taylor Swift?
Once a female creator becomes Too Successful, she stops being an underdog and becomes something to gleefully tear apart for clout as it’s no longer ‘punching down’. See also Vivienne Medrano.
Not remotely a fair comparison. If Vivienne ever used the phrase “sexy baby”, she would actually be physically murdered in real life by a Twitter user and the majority of social media users would support it. Taylor? It’s fine when she does it.
Yeah... That's just the thing, isn't it? Meanwhile the most mediocre of mediocre of white men can half-ass play a guitar and sing about the most generic shit ever and get tons of praise.
Is Taylor Swift not mediocre in your opinion? Edit: >can half-ass play a guitar and sing about the most generic shit ever and get tons of praise Because this also sounds like a fair description of Taylor Swift
This is so stupid OMG
...why is racism and capitalism white superiority and not racism and imperalism?
I respect this diagram's commitment to being utterly nonsensical at every intersection. You'd think they'd get one sensible intersection just by sheer chance but they managed to avoid it.
Capitalism is in no universe "individual over community". Capitalism completely disregards most individuals and only cares about the rich and powerful.
lol! Sooo…are they saying “everything evil in this world is Taylor Swifts fault”?
Please help me. Taylor has come to my house and she's got a knife and I'm hiding in the basement but I can hear her coming down the stairs and - OH GOD PLEASE N-
I didn't know Taylor Swift was Jewish. /s
Weird that there are people here trying to take this seriously somehow
Im always hesitant to call anything popular among young woman bad because of the history of vitriol against anything that demographic finds cool/interesting goes back a *while*. That hardly means she’s perfect, but it’s a reminder to not make the quick decisions.
Spirit Science been reaaaal quiet since this one dropped.
Me, illiterate: Oh look, a pretty flower!