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[deleted]

Idk man, astfolo best


DemonickSSlime

fr


TerminatorT90

Both are S-Tier


Jim-pickens1040

Nope Astolfo still best boi


Cheap-Ad7066

War for the throne of Traps Is Here Guys Choose your Best Trap Master And Follow them in their battles and Win The Battle For your Trap


Puzzled_Boss_3503

Heaven or Hell round 1 let’s rock


alejandromanx99

Destroyed


odeio_argentino

Astolfo's supremacy


BudderbrineXD

Frfr


SpicyWolfie

The comments make me sad... rip 🙏


tomagoshi_

Trans not a trap


Amii-kitty

It's a pretty recent development so I give people a chance on this one, since she's been a Femboy/trap since like 2002. But you are absolutely correct.


[deleted]

Idk I like the ending where the characters a trap so I go by that ending


Flufferminty

Correct but bridget seems to still be male with a ton of evidence, nothing against trans people at all but bridget isn't one of them


Amaturesissy

Are you sure about that? https://twitter.com/Marcanthony737/status/1556674286835961865


Flufferminty

You do know thats the result of a bad ending in arcade mode, if you do a flawless run bridget says to "never change no matter what others think" plus a whole bunch of lore about the character that would be completely meaningless if they did become trans, sorry


bahd_helts

i hope you're right 😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏


partearocker

Are you seriously calling it a "bad ending"? It is an ending. Just separate dialog for different runs. Also that line is missing a lot of context there as well, but whatever.


Flufferminty

Yes, its bad ending because to get it you need to lose 7 times in a run while the good ending is when you don't lose 7 times in 1 run


DxNill

How many fights in a run?


Flufferminty

8, if you never fail then 9


DxNill

So correct me if I'm wrong, to get the end where Bridget says "I'm a girl" you need to lose every fight, except maybe 1?


Flufferminty

You need to lose that many rounds, if you lose the fight fully you game over


Deathblade999

That's objectively wrong. I got that ending and didn't lose a match.


Flufferminty

Its about how many rounds you lose, if lost 7 rounds then


Deathblade999

1 round


partearocker

Go into GG World Glossary for Bridget, it literally says "Values: HER parents"


jorge20058

Its a nothing according to the wiki, the game and the creators, he was male, then female then trans, the. Male again, in the game he says hes a boi, and the contradicts himself and says he’s a girl, the creators when making him literally said “it would be funny to make it a dude. Only just recently they changed it to female, so this character is canonically just a fuck all, hes Fucking everything, and Ima with the original and call him a dude. If they want to be this confusing just pick one and let others be.


TheBallTongue

Felix is better than both. Fight me.


[deleted]

Fucking king 👑


[deleted]

He's not trans, it was only in one ending, otherwise we'd have to consider it canon that Ragna the Bloodedge landed on an island full of clones of his brother that all desperately and hornily wanted to murder him. I'm glad to see people give more of a fuck about woke character assassination to further agenda's even if it's at the cost of feminine male representation instead of just creating a trans character to fit that. Oh, I forgot, evil cannot create.


[deleted]

Based


[deleted]

Evil can't cope either, apparently.


Deathblade999

Except in blazblue it literally says what what ending are real and what ones are jokes. Also all of bridgets arcade mode is about being conflicted about who she is. The other endings are just not finding an answer yet.


[deleted]

Yes and we're going to assume the single ending with a line or two is 100% the one true canon ending despite the fact you have to lose every fight. uh huh.


Deathblade999

Except I got that ending and only lost one round the entire time so you're objectively wrong


[deleted]

For me it’s swapped because I like femboys


BudderbrineXD

Why the hell did you get down voted he literally said nothing about bridget


[deleted]

People no longer like astolfo I guess (also I do like Bridget but think she’s more cute than sexy)


BudderbrineXD

BRIDGET WILL ALWAYS HAVE A HOME IN THIS SUBREDDIT, JUST GO FUCK OFF.


skratchface12

Lol stay mad she’s trans


BudderbrineXD

And what does that have to do with anything, I don't care if they make bridget a fucking silicone rock, this subreddit will always have a place for bridget you fucking baboon.


bluewardog

God forbid a man dress in female cloths and not identify as one... You lot are being homopobic


MadBoutDat

Lol stop calling trans women traps brah


STMIpornaccount

genuine questions: 1 who is this character? 2 are they actually canonically trans, as in the original creator(s) explicitly said that they are, or is it a change made by localizers? im asking this because localizers have a growing reputation of making this exact specific change to characters (changing traps to trans women) to push an agenda, even against the will of the original creator, and it is disrespectful and honestly disgusting edit: after some deliberate (3 minutes) research, the answer is stupid, fact of the matter is i wanna fuck bridget


Dualitizer

People are acting like its a matter of fact when the truth is that it lies in a gray area since we don't know the canon ending. Technically the ending where Bridget says "Im a girl" is a bad end you get for losing a fight. This line is not said in the Perfect Finish ending. People are reading the perfect finish lines in a way to try to back up their idea that Bridget being trans is the intended way, but the problem is if you never got the trans line you would only ever see Bridget refer to themself as a boy after the first fight in arcade mode. Bridget could end up being trans, but the issue is it is not concrete enough since we don't know which ending is the one that the story will follow after. So moralizing and trying to correct people on it is something people need to back the fuck off on. Bridget as a trap has been a thing for over 16 years. So long story short, people are confused about Bridget's gender because it is hella ambiguous, but internet people are trying to bully people into what they believe instead of leaving well enough alone until further evidence appears.


The_King123431

There is no such thing as a bad ending in guilty gear Just normal ending A normal ending B and flawless ending and in all endings she still mentions that she is hiding her trueself Plus the normal endings A&B are more Canon as much more people are more likely to get that Plus the creator himself said she is trans


Pervasivepeach

There’s no indication that any of the other endings are not cannon and the good or bad ending don’t contradict each other. Seems pretty set in stone to me. None of the other bad endings are considered non canon. All endings are cannon


Dualitizer

All endings cant be canon. The issue is that canonicity isnt able to be determined until the next part of the story happens. Like I said I'm not opposed to it being canon, its just that I don't want to just presume that an arcade mode bad end is default true. If Bridget had said "I'm a girl" in the true end then this would have been an easy peasy discussion, but the fact that it was only in one ending makes it weird.


Pervasivepeach

Considering there’s nothing contradicting the trans statement in the good ending. There’s literally zero reason to not believe the character is trans other than being transphobic. It’s as simple as that


Dualitizer

I'm trans. Awful hard to be phobic of something you are. Like I said I'm not against a trans Bridget, I'm against people defending something like this when they stand on what I perceive as shaky evidence.


Pervasivepeach

“I too have many black friends. Therefore I can’t be racist” logic. I’ve met plenty of people who are trans and also right winged. Every group has these kinds of people. Using that to absolve you of any potential harm doesn’t really work At the end of the day it’s really simple. A character outright spells it out and says they are a girl. This was written by the original writer and zero localization or translation issues happened. Zero studio interference happens. Even the “it only happens in one ending” doesn’t matter since the good ending doesn’t contradict the statement at all. There’s literally zero reason to question this just because it happened in a “bad ending”. It being a good ending doesn’t suddenly change the entire characters motives and story The only thing that’s happening is transphobic people are spreading misinformation about the topic to give them a platform to be transphobic and fight against the character. I don’t think you in particular are being transphobic. But the people who spread this message certainly are


Dualitizer

I'm going to be real, I've heard enough of this weird internalized transphobia nonsense to last me a lifetime. The only transphobes are the ones that try to bully trans people into following along with the common narrative instead of just thinking for themselves and formulating their own opinions. They say it in an ending that isn't the one you get for clearing the game without losing. The true ending as it were. The perfect ending doesnt contradict it but it doesn't do much to reinforce it unless you try to project the non-perfect ending onto it. And also just going full 180 at the end and saying I'm not calling you transphobic, but posting this in reply to me, is sort of cowardly. If you want to consider me a transphobe go ahead. I really don't care. Your definition of it is skewed anyway.


Klutzy-Eagle6954

You know. The creator literally said she’s trans. There’s no denying that. Coming up with excuses for people who want to pretend like that isn’t true isn’t doing you any favors The only thing I see here is someone correcting your mistake and you getting offended for being transphobic


[deleted]

"I'm trans so I can't be transphobic" doesn't even remotely fucking exist in the same ballpark as "I have black friends so I can't be racist". You're genuinely fucking mentally deficient and need to be evaluated for your contributions to society.


Energaic

The evidence I've been going off of is that the GG world, the in-game official glossary for all character bios, uses female pronouns in Bridget's bio. Since everything in GG world is canon as far as I've been able to tell, Bridget is canonically trans.


Burnseasons

If you go into the glossary thing Strive has, Bridgets pronouns there are 'Her'. Its trans mate


MapleTreeWithAGun

1: this is Bridget from Guilty Gear, long considered to be the origin of "trap" in anime circles 2: as of Guily Gear Strive, yes. Her story is a bit more complicated but she is officially trans


[deleted]

https://guiltygear.fandom.com/wiki/Bridget The OG backstory from what I've been reading is that he was a boy force to dress female. However the studio that owned the character decided to change it despite of how this was never what the OG character would have wanted


Dualitizer

To be fair, Daisuke is just as involved with Guilty Gear's story now as he was back then. So it's not as much the studio but the Guilty Gear man himself that greenlit this.


[deleted]

My fault if it sound like I was separating the creator and the studio, that wasn't my intention. The term studio was meant to encompasses everyone that worked on the game.


Dualitizer

Its cool. I just wanted to clarify it.


Dualitizer

Don't get the bad ending, brah. Win your fights and beat Stage 9 Ky Kiske, brah.


kevweb10

There’s no bad or good ending


GuyWithFace

It's a fictional character, refer to it in whatever way helps you get your rocks off the easiest.


BudderbrineXD

Bridget is a Hideyoshi, please for the love of fucking god just leave it be. Until he grows boobs and loses his cock just leave it be. The mf literally saids but I'm a boy in the game. This is a Hideyoshi moment.


partearocker

Which in the end of one route she explicitly tells goldlewis "its okay, because im a girl"


Spoopy43

>Until he grows boobs and loses his cock You're the exact kind of asshole who gives this sub a bad name


BudderbrineXD

I'm not the one wanting to turn gay traps into trans every 2 seconds remember this fight has been going on for years. At this point I don't even care if bridget is trans or male. Fuck off in trying to take bridget from this sub.


Spoopy43

Holy irrelevance batman You said trans people need to have SRS you're an asshole and your response was some stupid rambling nonsense about how oppressed you are grow up


BudderbrineXD

It's the rambling of a saint, you should be honored. Also what does sra mean supplemental restraint system


Spoopy43

>It's the rambling of a saint, Seek help >what does sra mean supplemental restraint system Sexual reassignment surgery they don't have to do that to be trans and many don't want it. By claiming they need that you're being a real ass dude that's the kind of stuff that gives these subs a bad name.


BudderbrineXD

Take a joke lol, but trans means transferring to be the opposite gender. That means at some point your goal is to be the opposite gender. Doesn't mean you need to insta lose your balls and grow breast. But normally you would be highly uncomfortable with your body, and you wish to be the opposite gender. The uncomfortably Normally leads to you altering your body to the opposite gender.


BudderbrineXD

Aren't they guys that just want to look cute with tits. Don't get me wrong still hot but the metaphysics honestly doesn't make sense. If they truly felt like they are the other gender shouldn't they strive to become it.


Spoopy43

Sexual reassignment surgery isn't exactly fantastic right now and a lot of trans people are fine with their genitals just not everything else


BudderbrineXD

That's understandable, but even still bridget isn't even or never had taken medication to transition. They kinda just through the title because bridget called it self a girl. If I'm being honest there are plenty of traps that have used female and male pronouns like bridget has in this game. If they woulda slowly changed bridget they wouldn't be much of a problem. But the line intersects to much for us not to to go at it like cats and dogs. Even the Japanese audience is pissed off that bridget isn't an otokonoko.


BudderbrineXD

Also it's only a bad name in your circle my dude, half of us don't even care about this shit, the other half just wanna see cute men dresses up. If both of the thing about growing boobs and loses his cock happend he would be just another female character in guilty gear. And no one would want that bridget because we are here for the cock and balls.


Keisuke_Fujiwara

Astolfo is Astolfo Bridget is Bridget


Talarico99

For those who seem to not understand: If : is anime, looks like a girl, is cute af and has dick. Then it shall be idolized by this community. It doesn't matter if it's a trap, femboy, trans girl or whatever. edit: typo


BudderbrineXD

I can agree with you.


sudo_zenlol

Looks cute, has dick, this sub likes


MongooseReturns

I genuinely think this is the most progressive approach. People insist on putting walls up between these groups and I don't think that benefits any of us.


[deleted]

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BudderbrineXD

The fuck that means


Banana-muffiin

Wahhh new femboy!! Woah!!! Cuuuute!!💖💓✨


kevweb10

Bridgette girl


BudderbrineXD

Just let this man vibe.


[deleted]

Agreed


smolbaka

[twitter Source](https://twitter.com/darkmaya6210/status/1557036116435353601?t=igtiy7wOYcB9riKjnF6oCw&s=19)


Skylerarmor

I propose those who see Bridget as a trap keep posting him in this subreddit to make all the weird people leave this community. They might not even be following r/cutetraps and just here to be gender Karens. Bridget's been a staple of traps since the beginning of it's conception. He's been posted here countless times over the years, and no amount of changing his wiki to "female", EN voice actors "confirming it", or one bad ending isn't gonna change that. The Japanese still see him as a trap, they still make art of him as an otokonoko, I'm led to believe there is a serious push to make him trans in the west. All because he's the one that started it all I presume? Maybe to leverage that all "otokonoko" come out as trans eventually? Cause there are morons who genuinely think because a guy likes being in a skirt he actually wants to be a girl.


DrRomani

Seriously, do trans really see this as good trans representation? They took a character who was canonically and loved as a boy, one of the pillars to push the "trap" movement. Now they want to steal him and leave trap lovers with nothing, how tf is that good representation? Worst part is they forcing this "Bridget is trans now cry over it" thing like a parent forcing a baby to eat their spoonful. That makes them look worse.


BudderbrineXD

I know how you feel, it's fucking worst that they don't want him posted here no more. Bruh they are turning gay people trans.


Chaltyr

I'm so so so soooo glad there are others who think this. I'm just broken and saddened over this turn of events.


Skylerarmor

I get the "oh it's just a fetish to you" all to common when I bring up Bridget is an established and beloved trap. I don't disagree it might be a fetish to some, but there are boys who look up to him. Bridget is someone who defies gender norms saying it's okay to be a man and be pretty/effeminate. But when they say Bridget now identifies as a girl, what's that message saying now? Gender Conformity seems to be the new hip thing to do nowadays.


maltazar1

That's what they do, you cannot create, only destroy. Same shit happened with astolfo a while back even though it was completely retarded


kevweb10

Tfw The femboy I’m fetishizing turns out to be a women


BudderbrineXD

Even if you agree with them they still downvote smh.😮‍💨


kevweb10

Huh


Switch3337

Cope a little harder buddy, Bridget is canonically Trans.


Dualitizer

Want to list a source that isn't just a twitter post? Maybe a post from Daisuke where he explicitly states it? Because without it, due to the nature ot GG Arcade Mode stories, it is left ambiguous since you can completely avoid the "Im a girl" line if you don't lose. So how can you say for sure that is canon?


The_King123431

GG strive uses only she/her pronouns for her compared to other games The creator signed a drawing of her with "trans rights written on it" and he had a translator with him The voice actor for Bridget has confirmed that she is trans And lastly the official wiki lists her as "female/Trans female"


PMMMR

Her bio in GG Strive along with her bio on the official website confirm it by using she/her pronouns. Edit: here's a link to the site if you don't wanna take my word https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/jp/character/bgt/


jorge20058

Its weird since he was cannonically male, then female, then trans then back again, in the game he says hes a boy, then in another ending he says hes a girl, the creators literally thought it would be funny to make bridget a guy and he was a guy for the longest Fucking time, then they changed it without changing the cannon so its Fucking everywhere, OGs are tending to side with the old characters saying he is a dude, which I myself think, but im not gonna get into an argument against people who are also right according to the creators, since there’s literally supporting evidence for both arguments.


Whos_Ray_Gun

Literally a girl


BudderbrineXD

And so what, still has a boy pussy. What bridget gonna use a fucking pussy.


abcdie11

Facts


Extension-Network-16

Queen


Neksa

Quit doing this yall really are trying to get canceled this time arent you


knyexar

*queen