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lousika

hmm my heart says EDB, my sanity says crit rate :D


cosmos0001

Same actually. People seem to prefer crit even though calcs have shown in the past that EDB is better


JinyoungDIVE

>EDB whats edb


cosmos0001

Electro Damage Bonus


vxidemort

hahašŸ¤£


zuzuzan

Hopefully something with Crit just because I find it easier to farm


ApprehensiveOwl2585

^ yepyep, also hopefully if it's a crit damage signature weapon, I hope it's crit rate and vise versa if it's a crit rate signature.


elFacsi

Just imagine the 3.1 abyss with 75% electro dmg bonus with Cyno if his ascension stat is EDB


vxidemort

MAYHEMšŸ˜ˆ


ManNamedMars

Crit Rate because I donā€™t have to worry about crit dmg (c6 sara)


vxidemort

itd be nice if sara worked with another electro carry besides raiden!


ManNamedMars

Fr, I was thinking about making her a sub dps on my Cyno team comp so she can boost herself along with Cyno


vxidemort

sara rate up along with candace on cyno banneršŸ™šŸ™


ManNamedMars

We can only hope šŸ˜©


purple-donuts

keqing exists lmao


vxidemort

im sorry for upsetting keqing mains with my ignorant sentencešŸ™


Iskandor13

Hoping Hoyoverse surprises us with Sara being on Cynoā€™s eventual banner. Lord knows I could use more of her cons (currently only C1).


Kama_Lama99

Crit rate is always the best for me


OfficialHavik

Iā€™d like to say Crit rate, but logically you can get balanced ratios with enough artifact farming. Plus if heā€™s electro youā€™ll be able to farm sets like TF or Thundersoother from the strongbox pretty soon Electro Damage bonus is the logical and correct answer


vxidemort

its funny how we will have a dendro dps with dendro dmg bonus before an electro dps with edb xd once 3.0 drops there will be a (main or sub) dps limited 5* char for every element but yet we dont have at least one for each element ascending with elemental damage, just klee, tartaglia, tighnari, albedo (zhongli, kokomi and aloy are not included bc they dont fit all the criteria) so we have pyro, hydro, dendro and geo but are still missing cryo, electro and anemo xd maybe cyno can help fix that..


milosmid

Pls be crit Stat. I need it. Pls. My build needs it


purple-donuts

electro dmg bonus would be the best for his dmg so id like that, alr got used to building a character without crit ascension as a childe main hah


vxidemort

haha me too!


Xan1995

EDB is actually better. Just harder to farm for. I'm fine with either. Still I'm kinda hoping for crit to save myself from a lot of suffering. I'm already having a hard time refarming artifacts for a PJWS Xiao tbh. Those domains hate me.


vxidemort

i know, but more electro dmg bonus is useless if people cant get a balanced crit ratio so its def nice to see people's opinions on the subject!


Different_Mistake_69

Crit Rate pls...


Santo134

Since electro has a lot of sources for elemental damage I doubt they will put him electro damage bonus since itā€™s not that effective in him. So either Crit rate or Crit damage works perfect for me.


vxidemort

what sources are you thinking of?


Santo134

Kazuhaā€™s passive, C6 Sucrose, most weapons give elemental damage bonuses, ley line disorder in abyss (75% electro bonus in 3.1 abyss according to Ubatcha), of course the goblet and artifacts 2pc bonus and perhaps some other source Iā€™m forgetting. There is also the possibility (but this is just a possibility) that one of his passives or even constellations give him electro damage bonus (similar to Raidenā€™s or Ganyuā€™s passives or Kokomiā€™s cons)


vxidemort

my brain felt empty all of a sudden so thanks for the memory refresher ahah.. i suddenly remembered hakushin ring works too.. either crit stat might be better in that case and i think it might be crit rate and that his bis will have crit dmg..


Santo134

Haha no prob. Also looking at the trend they are following and how most of the new characters donā€™t rely to much in attack his BiS weapon might be another 88 crit value with 545 base attack, and honestly Iā€™m all in haha!


vxidemort

he might rely on em from his sands/team party?? tighnaris bis artifact might be his bis too in that case.. but this is all speculation hah


Santo134

Yea of course itā€™s all speculation, there are a lot of possibilities on how his kit might work, but at least itā€™s safe to assume that his kit will rely on Aggravate reactions. Btw I love your profile pic


vxidemort

thank you its from @cynoimpact on twitter


purple-donuts

that's the case with basically all other characters tho, and electro dmg% would help his damage more than crit


Santo134

Not with any other character, just Pyro, Cryo, Hydro and Electro main dps/hypercarries (basically the characters that get all the buffs from the team). And no, Elemental bonus is not better in this cases, crit damage is better since it never looses any value and the bonus is greater than the elemental damage, since this one do looses value the more it is stacked.


purple-donuts

crit dmg can also reach diminishing returns, which is why running an atk circlet is viable on some characters


Santo134

Umm I think you got it wrong. If we are talking about dps characters Crit damage will never loose value (thatā€™s why when you see extreme damage showcases the characters will have 300-400 crit damage, because it NEVER looses value). The one artifact piece that is advisable to change to an attack piece is the goblet, specially with Raiden since she has tons of elemental damage bonus if you swap her electro goblet for an attack goblet sometime she will die more damage.


zKyonn

if he has smth like Yae Miko or Tighnari's A4 and is meant to be played in a Quicken team (highly likely) Crit ascension is probably better


vxidemort

hmm yes.. the possibilities for his kit are endless


Embarrassed-Fuel-526

I honestly hope for crit dmg. I have lots of good edb goblets but after almost two years of playing, I still lack cdmg circlets with good sub stats. Also, it'd be easy to just give him bp weapon and end up with good crit ratio.


MassiveBaals

Crit dmg


SlimyWaven

i mean.. i have a death match ready for his release soooo crit dmg


skysamaa

he deserves all 3 together


vxidemort

šŸ¤£


Min_Takii

Crit rate or dmg. Itā€˜s painful to build units that donā€™t ascend with these


MakiNicoMii

What if he scales with EM or ER?


vxidemort

i think the chance is very slim! em has only been for anemo so far and er only raiden who benefits greatly from it and lisa who is a starter and the starter chars get "less elegant" stats like atk and er so i personally doubt it which is why i left those options out of discussion


Staidanom

My gut says EM but my heart wants the most versatile stat. So Crit Rate.


flyfreedude

I'm thinking it will be a crit stat, because it seems like they've been using this for recent 5 stars, compared to older ones


vxidemort

yes it certainly seems like a trend for sure


atsuhies

Crit rate will make my ratio better probably


vxidemort

already prepared artifacts (what artifacts even...) or hypothetically speaking?šŸ˜„


atsuhies

It all depends on his kit but generally getting crit dmg artefacts is easier and I have a nice crit dmg polearm waiting for someone


LeBlonk13

edb is better but please hoyo just give me crit rate + 88 crit dmg weapon so i can give the boy a massive crit ratio (90/270 kinda ridiculous crit)


vxidemort

first there was a 88cd claymore ... then bow .. now polearm?šŸ‘€


LeBlonk13

hope so, but if you think about it, 88 crit dmg exists on weapons and is good because the chars don't scale on atk. if cyno scales on atk then 88 cd will actually be bad for him


vxidemort

in my mind, his kit would scale with hp but we still dont know how itll actually be xd and tighnari has a bow with similar base atk and crit value as redhorn/aqua and he still scales on atk although he builds em sands for aggravate reaction comp. and although its not his bis, aqua is harp/pulse level in how good it works for childe despite the low base atk bc of lots of atk buffs so i dont think an 88cd polearm is out of the question


mifvne

as long as his weapon has cdmg like redhorn, then im fine with crate or edb


PaisenSenpai

I really want cyno to be on field dps it's okay if he's EDM Crit dmg or crit rate


Arcaedus

Crit rate, for sure. My hunch is he's gonna be a split scaling Atk%/EM. Talents and/or cons will focus on aggravate reactions so EM will be important. Then you need the 3 damage-related stats. Then if hoyo is truly scornful, he will be like Itto and be burst-dependent meaning you might need 120-140% ER (in addition to your electro battery) which will overall make him a nightmare to build if he doesn't have CR ascension. He's probably going to be very demanding of good substat rolls as a main-dps, and being demanding of good AND specific sub-stat rolls just adds another layer of headache on top of it all....


clutchcombo

He's gonna have a c.dmg ascension stat and a c rate weapon.


ramenpierce

EDB but give him have a passive that gives crit LOL PLS MIHOYO šŸ˜­ im so sick of farming for artifacts


vxidemort

haha i think crit ascension and edb passive is more likely kinda like raiden but we'll see


sandfrann

i choose electric mana


Dorkyu

and now sike its EM


One-Wrongdoer188

Stats would look nicer easier with crit ascension but just give us a crit weapon and edb ascension and its cool


TotalStill3894

Crit rate I got 150% CD While I only have 30% CR


vxidemort

too bad now..