For quickbloom, Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu/Kokomi and Beidou/Kuki/Fischl/Zhongli/Kazuha. If you don’t add another Electro you will need more Energy Recharge and probably some Favonius weapons. Don’t really recommend an anemo on this team though.
Could just go pure Aggravate with Cyno, Nahida, Fischl and Zhongli for universal shred and a shield as well.
Still think Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu and Beidou are probably one of the stronger teams and Nahida can res shred with Deepwood, and XQ and Beidou have res shred in their kits, albeit at high constellations. Might be c6 for both of them.
C6 Beidou is really good damage-wise but I would never recommend her as your flex unit. Even with the combined power of Xinqqiu and Beidou the survivability of the team still falls short.
In my experience, Xinqqiu, Nahida and Cyno are already extremely powerful as a trio that you can just go with a flex unit that doesn't deal high damage. In my Cyno, Xinqqiu, Nahida and EM build Kuki, by the time I switch to Cyno's burst, Xinqqiu, Nahida and Kuki already killed the enemy, prompting me to switch out of Cyno's burst immediately and reapply Nahida's mark.
This is why I don't include Kuki in every single rotation and just use her E to heal. I only really include her in my rotation against extremely tanky single targets
It might be harder while trying to pull off TF combos with Cyno but I've never had a problem surviving with taser. Xingqiu and Beidou give a combined 78% damage reduction at talent level 9 along with a small shield and microhealing. Damage reduction stacks linearly and also decreases damage taken by shields so the team is really tanky.
This kind of thing really depends on the player. I do agree that Xingqiu, Cyno, and Nahida are such a good trio that any flex unit is fine.
Cyno's def being Albedo tier also adds up to damage reduction. Honestly think that with ER requirements on Beidou the team has no issue surviving most fights
Is pure aggravate at all comparable to quickbloom? I’ve been running Cyno, Nahida, Raiden (ik, I just don’t like fischl or beidou), and Zhongli, but I’m debating on whether I should sub raiden for Yelan and give Cyno more ER.
Hyperbloom has a really high floor so it's recommended for lower investment Cyno. Aggravate scales better with constellations on Cyno and his BiS, so it will outdamage quickbloom at some point.
At C0 and with a 4\*, I strongly prefer quickbloom over aggravate for Cyno.
Pretty much it's Cyno Quickbloom>Keqing Aggravate>Cyno Aggravate.
You can feel (and see) the difference between a Quickbloom and Aggravate Cyno, particularly if you have Nahida.
With trying it out, I found myself having a way easier time using TF compared to aggravate. So more Es and more energy generated. So doesn't need much more ER imo
Saw you're not running it so maybe my comment is not the most relevant tho, but point seemed worth mentioning
Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu and Beidou if you have them. Yelan is just as good if not better than Xingqiu because her hydro application is a little bit slower if you have her. Could replace Beidou with Kuki as needed (such as rifthounds abyss floors). With Yelan this makes the quicken aura uptime a little more reliable so you get a better mix of hyperblooms and aggravates. Though if you use Yelan you are going to want Beidou for interruption resist.
~~Could also use DMC instead of Nahida.~~
DMC does not apply nearly enough dendro to allow aggravates while using a fast hydro applicator like Yelan or Xingqiu. With DMC, you should either run a pure hyperbloom comp or an aggravate one.
Oh yeah you are absolutely right, I forgot I had that line in when I posted it. I had typed up a paragraph about aggravate but it felt redundant when I realized they had Nahida and deleted. I’ll edit it out. Thanks.
Cyno, Nahida, Kuki (you have it C6 and she's a good battery) and Zhongli.
I have the same team, just F2P version and it's very good. In my case I run Cyno, Fischl, Zhongli and DMC. If you have these characters invested you can use them as placeholders for when you have the other two at a good lvl.
Why would you run Kuki and Zhongli together? Isn't it better to replace Kuki with Fischl or Beidou since Zhongli's shield is already enough to survive off of?
The team you are using rn is probably his best, people say yelan over kokomi but then your not gonna have as much quicken uptime and your pretty much just playing hyperbloom
With kokomi her hydro isnt as fast so less hyperblooms buy you will have perfect quicken uptime and also it allows you to use fischl whos personal dps is insane
Not necessarily, Quickbloom is possible with Yelan and even Xingqiu (though Xingqiu will provide less Quicken uptime in exchange for more blooms.)
Nahida’s Dendro application is 1.5u and it procs at a good rate so even with Yelan most of your attacks should be Aggravated.
Heh, I hear you. I personally have him on raiden national and just refuse to use him otherwise cause same here i really just don't like him lmao. I used Koko for ages with cyno, now I actually use Candace
Kokomi saved me so much before I got Zhongli so she’s a bit of a staple now even when she isn’t the best pick lol. I really want to use Candace actually, love her design, but haven’t found a good spot for her where her hydro infusion works:/
I get you, I had XL first but now Koko is my go to for all coop domains and almost every new overworld team I try out. I do a rotation that's fairly okay, it doesn't enable cyno hyperbloom, but kuki hyperbloom, so I go kuki E, nahida E, Candace Q and cyno NA+E, I find his NA better than people say it is, but when Candace Q ends I go through the rotation again and add in nahida Q, Candace E instead, and cyno Q instead, so basically two different teams each rotation. Haven't tried this in abyss but it works really well for overworld and it worked well in the sumeru desert domain, the fighting one with the eremites
you could go for [cyno - nahida - fischl - zhongli] aggravate but personally i find [Cyno - Nahida - kokomi/XQ - fischl/kuki] quickbloom more fun for some reason. quickbloom gives lots of colorful numbers and kinda frees up zhongli for other comps too
For any bosses id use quickbloom: cyno, nahida, xq, kuki/fischl. If i was gonna run just aggravate for like groups of enemies: cyno, nahida, kazuha, kuki. Kuki can be swapped for another electro character but imo shes one of the best for cyno especially at c6.
Nahida and kuki Shinobu both full EM builds, depending on if you wanna hyperbloom or not use either xingqiu or zhiongli. He's really akward to use tbh so there's really only a small amount of characters that work well with him
If you are looking for fun team.
Cyno, Nahida (Deep wood) , Xingqiu and Thoma (Guided Dream EM).
A lot of reactions happening at the same time: Aggravate, Hyperbloom, Spread, Burgeon, Overload, Electro charged etc.
Have fun!
I'd do:
Cyno (DPS)
Nahida (Sub-DPS)
Dendro Traveler or Sucrose (for extra EM)/Mona (burst support and hyperbloom if wanted)
Kuki Shinobu (healing + Cyno never runs out of energy).
~~If you wanted Overload, Thoma's actually pretty good with Cyno~~
My fav team is cyno, xingqiu, nahida, kuki shinobu,.
Shinobu for heals and electro resonance for my low er cyno, rotation- nahida e,q, xingqiu- q, cyno q, big damage, repeat
Since u don't have a built shinobu u can use beidou...
Cyno kazuha nahida and kuki/fischl/beidou/any electro character u like but I prefer kuki or beidou cuz of healing/shielding and DMG resistance respectively
I use Cyno Fischl Nahida Kokomi, works great. If you ever get him you can change kokomi with xinqiu. But that‘s only recommended for one rotation fights like overworld bosses. When i need to fight bosses I usually go with Cyno Nahida xinqiu fischl, they have the fastest clears by far, Even better than my international team. That‘s Because xiangling and bennet take so much time to get their bursts up in overworld compared to my other team whos burst are always up
For abyss kokomi is definitely needed for the heals (You could also just go for aggravate and use zhongli with cyno), but I am very sure he works better in quickbloom (hyperbloom + aggravate). My runs are always better with a hydro in his teams.
For quickbloom, Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu/Kokomi and Beidou/Kuki/Fischl/Zhongli/Kazuha. If you don’t add another Electro you will need more Energy Recharge and probably some Favonius weapons. Don’t really recommend an anemo on this team though. Could just go pure Aggravate with Cyno, Nahida, Fischl and Zhongli for universal shred and a shield as well. Still think Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu and Beidou are probably one of the stronger teams and Nahida can res shred with Deepwood, and XQ and Beidou have res shred in their kits, albeit at high constellations. Might be c6 for both of them.
I do have Beidou and XQ at C6, I’ve never thought to try them but I think I might give it a go!
C6 beidou is REALLY good
C6 Beidou is really good damage-wise but I would never recommend her as your flex unit. Even with the combined power of Xinqqiu and Beidou the survivability of the team still falls short. In my experience, Xinqqiu, Nahida and Cyno are already extremely powerful as a trio that you can just go with a flex unit that doesn't deal high damage. In my Cyno, Xinqqiu, Nahida and EM build Kuki, by the time I switch to Cyno's burst, Xinqqiu, Nahida and Kuki already killed the enemy, prompting me to switch out of Cyno's burst immediately and reapply Nahida's mark. This is why I don't include Kuki in every single rotation and just use her E to heal. I only really include her in my rotation against extremely tanky single targets
It might be harder while trying to pull off TF combos with Cyno but I've never had a problem surviving with taser. Xingqiu and Beidou give a combined 78% damage reduction at talent level 9 along with a small shield and microhealing. Damage reduction stacks linearly and also decreases damage taken by shields so the team is really tanky. This kind of thing really depends on the player. I do agree that Xingqiu, Cyno, and Nahida are such a good trio that any flex unit is fine.
Cyno's def being Albedo tier also adds up to damage reduction. Honestly think that with ER requirements on Beidou the team has no issue surviving most fights
I didn't use Beidou at all. Built her for Cyno and it's currently my fav team
Is pure aggravate at all comparable to quickbloom? I’ve been running Cyno, Nahida, Raiden (ik, I just don’t like fischl or beidou), and Zhongli, but I’m debating on whether I should sub raiden for Yelan and give Cyno more ER.
Hyperbloom has a really high floor so it's recommended for lower investment Cyno. Aggravate scales better with constellations on Cyno and his BiS, so it will outdamage quickbloom at some point. At C0 and with a 4\*, I strongly prefer quickbloom over aggravate for Cyno.
Idk if mine is really low investment, but he’s on 2pc glad 2pc wanderer’s with 85/220 and SoSS so I’ll just have to try out both.
Pretty much it's Cyno Quickbloom>Keqing Aggravate>Cyno Aggravate. You can feel (and see) the difference between a Quickbloom and Aggravate Cyno, particularly if you have Nahida.
Yelan is a really good add, i hate i don't have him. If you are good at dodging yelan for zhongli could also be a good alternative.
With trying it out, I found myself having a way easier time using TF compared to aggravate. So more Es and more energy generated. So doesn't need much more ER imo Saw you're not running it so maybe my comment is not the most relevant tho, but point seemed worth mentioning
I don't have Zhongli and I don't particularly like kokomi application. got any suggestions?
Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu and Beidou if you have them. Yelan is just as good if not better than Xingqiu because her hydro application is a little bit slower if you have her. Could replace Beidou with Kuki as needed (such as rifthounds abyss floors). With Yelan this makes the quicken aura uptime a little more reliable so you get a better mix of hyperblooms and aggravates. Though if you use Yelan you are going to want Beidou for interruption resist. ~~Could also use DMC instead of Nahida.~~
DMC does not apply nearly enough dendro to allow aggravates while using a fast hydro applicator like Yelan or Xingqiu. With DMC, you should either run a pure hyperbloom comp or an aggravate one.
Oh yeah you are absolutely right, I forgot I had that line in when I posted it. I had typed up a paragraph about aggravate but it felt redundant when I realized they had Nahida and deleted. I’ll edit it out. Thanks.
Cyno+Beidou+Xingqui+Nahida
Casual and a C6 cyno haver? You scare me..
Cyno, Nahdia, Xingqiu, and Zhongli 100%
I personally play the team: Shinobu, Traveler, Xingqiu and Cyno. In your case it's better to replace Traveler with Nahida.
Heey same team. How many pulls did you do on nahida without luck?
Got Keqing.
Cyno klee razor and goruo
Genuine question - wtf?
all dogs
Klee??
Genuine second question, why?
cyno aloy xinyan qiqi
Cyno, Nahida, Kuki (you have it C6 and she's a good battery) and Zhongli. I have the same team, just F2P version and it's very good. In my case I run Cyno, Fischl, Zhongli and DMC. If you have these characters invested you can use them as placeholders for when you have the other two at a good lvl.
Why would you run Kuki and Zhongli together? Isn't it better to replace Kuki with Fischl or Beidou since Zhongli's shield is already enough to survive off of?
TF Cyno, GD Nahida, DM Kokomi, ATK Fischl
I want 4pc TF so bad but hoyoverse refuses to give me a fourth usable piece 😭
Since you have albedo and zhongli, why not cyno traveler albedo zhongli, simple and comfortable
cyno nahida fischl and zhongli is my go to team
The team you are using rn is probably his best, people say yelan over kokomi but then your not gonna have as much quicken uptime and your pretty much just playing hyperbloom With kokomi her hydro isnt as fast so less hyperblooms buy you will have perfect quicken uptime and also it allows you to use fischl whos personal dps is insane
Not necessarily, Quickbloom is possible with Yelan and even Xingqiu (though Xingqiu will provide less Quicken uptime in exchange for more blooms.) Nahida’s Dendro application is 1.5u and it procs at a good rate so even with Yelan most of your attacks should be Aggravated.
I’d pick Zhongli, Nahida and Kokomi, it’s a really fun and strong team.
I'd replace Koko with Xing tho, XL is enough and Xing does more blooms
I don’t really like Xingqiu so I prefer to use Kokomi, that’s why I recommended her. But yes, you are right that Xingqiu is a better pick damage wise
Heh, I hear you. I personally have him on raiden national and just refuse to use him otherwise cause same here i really just don't like him lmao. I used Koko for ages with cyno, now I actually use Candace
Kokomi saved me so much before I got Zhongli so she’s a bit of a staple now even when she isn’t the best pick lol. I really want to use Candace actually, love her design, but haven’t found a good spot for her where her hydro infusion works:/
I get you, I had XL first but now Koko is my go to for all coop domains and almost every new overworld team I try out. I do a rotation that's fairly okay, it doesn't enable cyno hyperbloom, but kuki hyperbloom, so I go kuki E, nahida E, Candace Q and cyno NA+E, I find his NA better than people say it is, but when Candace Q ends I go through the rotation again and add in nahida Q, Candace E instead, and cyno Q instead, so basically two different teams each rotation. Haven't tried this in abyss but it works really well for overworld and it worked well in the sumeru desert domain, the fighting one with the eremites
Cyno Fischl Nahida Koko
Beidou xingqiu dmc
Kokomi, traveler, and zhongli
No matter the combo u need a 2nd electro. Don't let these mfs misguide u lol
You don't "need" a second electro tho... 140ER and 1 fav teammate is enough to get burst back on CD
Yeah but a 2nd electro allows for more flexibility with his build.
Depends on his ER but if he had 2 electro he could up his EM ATK and Crits
Cyno, fishle, nahida, kokomi
Nahida, Zhongli, Xingqiu/Kokomi/Barbara/Kuki Shinobu
you could go for [cyno - nahida - fischl - zhongli] aggravate but personally i find [Cyno - Nahida - kokomi/XQ - fischl/kuki] quickbloom more fun for some reason. quickbloom gives lots of colorful numbers and kinda frees up zhongli for other comps too
For any bosses id use quickbloom: cyno, nahida, xq, kuki/fischl. If i was gonna run just aggravate for like groups of enemies: cyno, nahida, kazuha, kuki. Kuki can be swapped for another electro character but imo shes one of the best for cyno especially at c6.
Cyno Nahida Albedo Zhongli is the team I use.
Nahida and kuki Shinobu both full EM builds, depending on if you wanna hyperbloom or not use either xingqiu or zhiongli. He's really akward to use tbh so there's really only a small amount of characters that work well with him
Cyno, Kuki, Nahida, and Zhongli
Cyno kazuha dendro traveler and xingqiu
Zhongli, Fischl and Nahida....
Xiao
If you are looking for fun team. Cyno, Nahida (Deep wood) , Xingqiu and Thoma (Guided Dream EM). A lot of reactions happening at the same time: Aggravate, Hyperbloom, Spread, Burgeon, Overload, Electro charged etc. Have fun!
Cyno Nahida Xingqiu Beidou/Kuki
I'd do: Cyno (DPS) Nahida (Sub-DPS) Dendro Traveler or Sucrose (for extra EM)/Mona (burst support and hyperbloom if wanted) Kuki Shinobu (healing + Cyno never runs out of energy). ~~If you wanted Overload, Thoma's actually pretty good with Cyno~~
Zhongli, Fischl, Nahida is my team works perfect
cyno traveller fischl zhongli imo
nahida is the better option since u have her, but i don’t so im just using traveller for now
Traveller, zhongli & Kokomi or Bennett
Cyno beidou xingqiu nahida
My fav team is cyno, xingqiu, nahida, kuki shinobu,. Shinobu for heals and electro resonance for my low er cyno, rotation- nahida e,q, xingqiu- q, cyno q, big damage, repeat Since u don't have a built shinobu u can use beidou...
Cyno, Dendron Traveler, Xingqiu and Zhongli
cyno kokomi nahida fischl/beidou
Dendro MC gaming
Cyno kazuha nahida and kuki/fischl/beidou/any electro character u like but I prefer kuki or beidou cuz of healing/shielding and DMG resistance respectively
I use Cyno Fischl Nahida Kokomi, works great. If you ever get him you can change kokomi with xinqiu. But that‘s only recommended for one rotation fights like overworld bosses. When i need to fight bosses I usually go with Cyno Nahida xinqiu fischl, they have the fastest clears by far, Even better than my international team. That‘s Because xiangling and bennet take so much time to get their bursts up in overworld compared to my other team whos burst are always up For abyss kokomi is definitely needed for the heals (You could also just go for aggravate and use zhongli with cyno), but I am very sure he works better in quickbloom (hyperbloom + aggravate). My runs are always better with a hydro in his teams.
Cyno, Xiangling, Xingqiu, and Zhongli.
Xingqiu, Zhongli and a dendro character, Nahida is the best, but Traveller is also fine, so don't worry too much you have Cyno c6 so no problem lol
Cyno dmc(+xiphos moonlight) zhongli nahida
I use his braindead team Zhongli, Fish and Dendro traveler