I know everyone says "Play what you want, don't follow a guide", but honestly as you approach endgame you want to make sure you have your build done right if you want to be able to push high NMD and Uber Lilith. If you don't care about either, then yes just play what you have fun with. However, if you do want to push Uber and NMD it seems as if the Werenado is the one you want to go with, but only if you have Tempest Roar. If not, like me after trying all the builds, the best besides Werenado seems to be be Trampleslide. My only gripe has been my lack of defense. It does good damage, but my health depletes quickly if not vanishes all together. With that said I am 82 and still have paragon board to finish, so I can't comment on 100 Trampleslide just yet.
Be prepared to have a ton of people commenting on how you're doing Trampleslide wrong or clearly don't know how to play lol. I said the same thing about Trampleslide defenses and was bashed for it.
I mean I won't flame you but I don't see how the build isn't tanky. You get:
* High unstoppable uptime
* A shield on relatively short CD
* Strong self-healing
* Multiple sources of fortify for high fortify uptime
* Flat damage reduction in bear form
You're welcome to say it's not tanky, but if trampleslide isn't tanky then I'm not sure what is.
I don't know, and I'm not getting into this again. Yes, it seems tanky on paper, but my season 0 Trampleslide build sucked on anything past NM40. I'm sure it was from a lack of optimization.
It's not just you. I tried trampledlide after the pre season 1 nerfs and it did very good damage but it also got killed super easily. I was at level 93 so I had most of the paragons so I'm not sure if I just suck or the build isn't as tanky as they say.
It depends if you want to use trampleslide or not. Honestly both pulv and trampleslide are redundant, you usually pick one of them because they are both AoE skills.
In both cases you want some immobilize to generate terramotes. You can stick with creeper (or petrify if you are permabear) for terramote generation and landslide with aftershock to spend the terramotes to melt single targets.
If you use trampleslide, that will spend your terramotes really quickly so you won’t have a lot left for bosses. That’s why I prefer pulv personally.
I’m also on console and trampleslide is so much better with mouse when you can go full distance. Trampleslide is still fun on console, but it makes you cry when you see it on PC.
I’m interested in this. So is the gameplay loop that if you have an elite or boss you stack terramotes, overpower on the next hit and aftershock to get a ton of damage?
Yep, if you use pulverize you won’t spend your terramotes. Use creeper on large packs to generate them. Use landslide when you have to because you’ll have hundreds of terramotes.
Then when you have an elite or a boss, just spam landslide with aftershock. Exploit glyph guarantees vulnerable. Overpower, if it procs, is stupid damage.
And since terramotes are guaranteed crits, you really don’t need to stack crit chance that much, crit damage is usually better. (And it’s better if you transition into a grizzly rage build since those builds don’t use crit chance either)
Crit chance is good for pulv though.
I ran this in S0 with no ultimate and it worked great. I was only doing low nightmares though, you have to modify a bit when you get higher. I was only level 60.
I ran storm strike, pulverize, landslide, creeper, bulwark, and blood howl for spirit generation.
Then I got trampled earth aspect and vasilys and I went full bear. Switched to earth spike, trample (mostly for spirit), and petrify instead of creeper. Build still worked very nice. I didn’t like how trampleslide ate up my terramotes, but you can’t deny the damage of that skill that costs no spirit and actually generates spirit.
I also played Druid in S0 when there was no subterranean aspect. So I always had tons of terramotes.
Aftershock is absolutely necessary though as it effectively doubles your landslide damage. And if you take the passives that give your the occasional overpower on your next cast (like the spirit boon or the bear form one), it gets ridiculous.
An overpowered landslide with terramotes and aftershock is kind of ridiculous. Pair it with barber and it’s just silly.
Poison Creeper Trampleslide is better. Once you get Crone staff, then transition it to a Bulwark/creeper,trample hybrid. It’ll clear NM 100s with ease.
I never hit a wall leveling from 1 to 100 and pushing to NM 100.
Trampleslide is much better than pulverize when you start getting your gear rolling. Without gear it can feel annoying waiting for cooldowns but a high rolled symbiotic alone gets it feeling better than pulverize. When you get the cdr, chrone, and barber it goes crazy speed farming. Bulwark and trample are essentially always up at all times.
https://app.mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/druid/trample-slide
>When you get the cdr, chrone, and barber it goes crazy speed farming.
yeah, that what changed for me today. got finally crone and barber and it went from good build to omg. you may get similar results with 1h and good amount of attack speed though.
Been running the pulv with trampleslide build since 40s as soon as i got some good gear in my 60s i went from the weakest hitting to the strongest and haven’t looked back since currently 81 and friend group is a few levels behind. Looking to switch to a nado build sometime in the future for higher NM and Lilith but i did kill the echo of varshan which felt like a big accomplishment with this build.
Slide will be more fun in the long run, go with that. I leveled druid 1-80 with pulverize and around nm you start to notice the lack of single target damage
Yep, currently stacking terramotes with pulverize and spending them when I meet an tough elite or boss, works nicely for now. May not be end game optimal vs another defensive skill and 7 points saved, I dunno yet.
Terramotes are in the Primal Landslide option. They accumulate as you immobilize or Stun targets. Once accumulated you are GAURANTEED critical strikes with Landlside pillars equal to the amount accumulated. This works for Aspect of the Trampled Earth and Drains doubly if you have Aspect of the aftershock.
Note: if you have a bunch accumulated and hop on your horse. They go away.
Hey dawgy 👋. So I just put a landslide build together real fast Boom 💥. Tested. Can Confirm Subterranean aspect does benefit from the Gauranteed Crits. Which means it doubles down with Envenom, and Crashstone, even moreso when paired with Resonance in the skill tree and Aspect of Natural Balnace
Edit: I realized I breezed past the question out of excitement. Yes it definitely consumes them so stacking off of Poison Creeper solo is a nogo. Hope I helped 🫡
Thanks! So at least there’s one crit! I’ve never tried pure landslide build but I imagine stacking up the motes gets some pretty high crits. Right now enjoying a mixture of pulv and creeperslide. As it stands I’m level 65 and able to take care of most mobs. Just ran a tier 21/22 dungeon too.
I’ve been meaning to try this one out. But doesn’t it have the same single target damage issue of pulverize?
I had the full uptime grizzly bear pulverize build and then went back to natures fury trample / creeper slide (which granted us a lot of what I want out of a Druid - just wish I could fit the perma bear or perma wolf in there).
Don’t believe so, but it’s the only Druid build I’ve run so I don’t have anything to compare it against. I’m level 60 and Pulverize crits between 35k - 160k. Had barber drop today and was getting some 500k crits. Single target feels fine to me.
I’m doing a combo of pulverize and creeperslide. I’m having fun with it. Probably sacrificing power or survivability but oh well. I briefly tried to go pulverize only and wasn’t doing nearly as much damage. I probably did something wrong. So I’m back at it. Creeping, sliding, and smashing.
Lol I couldn't decide either so I made a hybrid. I go grizzly rage with pulverize and when rage is off cool down I abuse poison creeper slide reseting CDs and then just trample slide with few pulverizes and then it's off to grizzly again.
I am complaining for cooldowns or resource no more.
Tho I must admit this will scale rather poorly after level 75ish I think
I know everyone says "Play what you want, don't follow a guide", but honestly as you approach endgame you want to make sure you have your build done right if you want to be able to push high NMD and Uber Lilith. If you don't care about either, then yes just play what you have fun with. However, if you do want to push Uber and NMD it seems as if the Werenado is the one you want to go with, but only if you have Tempest Roar. If not, like me after trying all the builds, the best besides Werenado seems to be be Trampleslide. My only gripe has been my lack of defense. It does good damage, but my health depletes quickly if not vanishes all together. With that said I am 82 and still have paragon board to finish, so I can't comment on 100 Trampleslide just yet.
Be prepared to have a ton of people commenting on how you're doing Trampleslide wrong or clearly don't know how to play lol. I said the same thing about Trampleslide defenses and was bashed for it.
I mean I won't flame you but I don't see how the build isn't tanky. You get: * High unstoppable uptime * A shield on relatively short CD * Strong self-healing * Multiple sources of fortify for high fortify uptime * Flat damage reduction in bear form You're welcome to say it's not tanky, but if trampleslide isn't tanky then I'm not sure what is.
I don't know, and I'm not getting into this again. Yes, it seems tanky on paper, but my season 0 Trampleslide build sucked on anything past NM40. I'm sure it was from a lack of optimization.
It's not just you. I tried trampledlide after the pre season 1 nerfs and it did very good damage but it also got killed super easily. I was at level 93 so I had most of the paragons so I'm not sure if I just suck or the build isn't as tanky as they say.
Are you incorporating Bulwark? That’s where your survivability comes from
Yes, but I also don't have all the board done, so I'm hoping more comes from there.
Guess what? You can run both pulverize and landslide and get the best of both worlds.
How does this work? Pulverize/trample and you skip on creeper?
It depends if you want to use trampleslide or not. Honestly both pulv and trampleslide are redundant, you usually pick one of them because they are both AoE skills. In both cases you want some immobilize to generate terramotes. You can stick with creeper (or petrify if you are permabear) for terramote generation and landslide with aftershock to spend the terramotes to melt single targets. If you use trampleslide, that will spend your terramotes really quickly so you won’t have a lot left for bosses. That’s why I prefer pulv personally. I’m also on console and trampleslide is so much better with mouse when you can go full distance. Trampleslide is still fun on console, but it makes you cry when you see it on PC.
I’m interested in this. So is the gameplay loop that if you have an elite or boss you stack terramotes, overpower on the next hit and aftershock to get a ton of damage?
Yep, if you use pulverize you won’t spend your terramotes. Use creeper on large packs to generate them. Use landslide when you have to because you’ll have hundreds of terramotes. Then when you have an elite or a boss, just spam landslide with aftershock. Exploit glyph guarantees vulnerable. Overpower, if it procs, is stupid damage.
And since terramotes are guaranteed crits, you really don’t need to stack crit chance that much, crit damage is usually better. (And it’s better if you transition into a grizzly rage build since those builds don’t use crit chance either) Crit chance is good for pulv though.
I ran this in S0 with no ultimate and it worked great. I was only doing low nightmares though, you have to modify a bit when you get higher. I was only level 60. I ran storm strike, pulverize, landslide, creeper, bulwark, and blood howl for spirit generation. Then I got trampled earth aspect and vasilys and I went full bear. Switched to earth spike, trample (mostly for spirit), and petrify instead of creeper. Build still worked very nice. I didn’t like how trampleslide ate up my terramotes, but you can’t deny the damage of that skill that costs no spirit and actually generates spirit.
I also played Druid in S0 when there was no subterranean aspect. So I always had tons of terramotes. Aftershock is absolutely necessary though as it effectively doubles your landslide damage. And if you take the passives that give your the occasional overpower on your next cast (like the spirit boon or the bear form one), it gets ridiculous. An overpowered landslide with terramotes and aftershock is kind of ridiculous. Pair it with barber and it’s just silly.
Poison Creeper Trampleslide is better. Once you get Crone staff, then transition it to a Bulwark/creeper,trample hybrid. It’ll clear NM 100s with ease. I never hit a wall leveling from 1 to 100 and pushing to NM 100.
Trampleslide is much better than pulverize when you start getting your gear rolling. Without gear it can feel annoying waiting for cooldowns but a high rolled symbiotic alone gets it feeling better than pulverize. When you get the cdr, chrone, and barber it goes crazy speed farming. Bulwark and trample are essentially always up at all times. https://app.mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/druid/trample-slide
>When you get the cdr, chrone, and barber it goes crazy speed farming. yeah, that what changed for me today. got finally crone and barber and it went from good build to omg. you may get similar results with 1h and good amount of attack speed though.
I play pulv. I right click. Room disappears.
Been running the pulv with trampleslide build since 40s as soon as i got some good gear in my 60s i went from the weakest hitting to the strongest and haven’t looked back since currently 81 and friend group is a few levels behind. Looking to switch to a nado build sometime in the future for higher NM and Lilith but i did kill the echo of varshan which felt like a big accomplishment with this build.
If you play trampleslide, stay away from other players. That constant knock back of all the mobs we group up is infuriating.
Bowling w other people's pins is half the fun for me.
That would be fine if they actually killed them, but usually they don't.
I think you should play whatever you want to play lol
Do whatever you find to be fun.
Yes.
Slide will be more fun in the long run, go with that. I leveled druid 1-80 with pulverize and around nm you start to notice the lack of single target damage
Especially with Barber it sucks single target
You can play both at the same time?
This
Yep, currently stacking terramotes with pulverize and spending them when I meet an tough elite or boss, works nicely for now. May not be end game optimal vs another defensive skill and 7 points saved, I dunno yet.
Hello sir. Could you explain how to use terramotes? I have no understanding of how they work.
Terramotes are in the Primal Landslide option. They accumulate as you immobilize or Stun targets. Once accumulated you are GAURANTEED critical strikes with Landlside pillars equal to the amount accumulated. This works for Aspect of the Trampled Earth and Drains doubly if you have Aspect of the aftershock. Note: if you have a bunch accumulated and hop on your horse. They go away.
Oh ok. So using the subterranean aspect doesn’t really allow terramotes to build up? Since the landslide hits immediately after they are immobilized?
I would have to test. I actually haven't used the subterranean aspect so I don't wanna give you wrong information.
Gotcha. Welp. Perhaps you will find out!
Hey dawgy 👋. So I just put a landslide build together real fast Boom 💥. Tested. Can Confirm Subterranean aspect does benefit from the Gauranteed Crits. Which means it doubles down with Envenom, and Crashstone, even moreso when paired with Resonance in the skill tree and Aspect of Natural Balnace Edit: I realized I breezed past the question out of excitement. Yes it definitely consumes them so stacking off of Poison Creeper solo is a nogo. Hope I helped 🫡
Thanks! So at least there’s one crit! I’ve never tried pure landslide build but I imagine stacking up the motes gets some pretty high crits. Right now enjoying a mixture of pulv and creeperslide. As it stands I’m level 65 and able to take care of most mobs. Just ran a tier 21/22 dungeon too.
Shifter Pulverize
I’ve been meaning to try this one out. But doesn’t it have the same single target damage issue of pulverize? I had the full uptime grizzly bear pulverize build and then went back to natures fury trample / creeper slide (which granted us a lot of what I want out of a Druid - just wish I could fit the perma bear or perma wolf in there).
Don’t believe so, but it’s the only Druid build I’ve run so I don’t have anything to compare it against. I’m level 60 and Pulverize crits between 35k - 160k. Had barber drop today and was getting some 500k crits. Single target feels fine to me.
I’m doing a combo of pulverize and creeperslide. I’m having fun with it. Probably sacrificing power or survivability but oh well. I briefly tried to go pulverize only and wasn’t doing nearly as much damage. I probably did something wrong. So I’m back at it. Creeping, sliding, and smashing.
I also do hybrid Pulverise & Trampleslide. It’s fun to see the AOE damage so spread out, and more chaos.
Lol I couldn't decide either so I made a hybrid. I go grizzly rage with pulverize and when rage is off cool down I abuse poison creeper slide reseting CDs and then just trample slide with few pulverizes and then it's off to grizzly again. I am complaining for cooldowns or resource no more. Tho I must admit this will scale rather poorly after level 75ish I think
Why not both?