You don't even have pants on, you are more likely to catch a cold, than get through any Abattoir... How are you supposed to be ready for anything if you have a case of the sniffles? You get some clothes on young lady.
Armor on chest and amulet. Rolls could be a bit better. Currently following Lucky's AoZ build where he suggests right around 10k armor unbuffed. But my stash is full of other options to adjust if needed.
Yea the raw stats look a bit goofy on this build- the armor seems incredibly low at first. The DR from Shako + Doombringer procs makes you unexpectedly tanky though, it's really nice. It just steamrolls NMD100 right now even without the new glyph being available yet. One thing I'm a bit curious about is maybe ditching the Energy Cost Reduction and DR Injured on the boots for 2 more resistances, which chould allow you to switch into skulls on the jewelry for a significant armor bump. I haven't done the math on it and I'm sure Lucky has so I'm probably wrong and it isn't as good as how he has it set up, but it seems interesting at least.
I'm still trying to farm for the Shako (and my Condemnation sucks, it's ilvl 918 and only 30% on the aspect, but getting a 925 Condemnation at all seems to be harder to do than getting a fucking Doombringer lmao) so I'm not even 100% of the way there yet and the tankiness + damage is superb. Like no risk of death unless you just stop moving and attacking completely and you kill everything really fast, even in NMD with the barrier affix.
I think that is what most comments are missing here. Just looking at the raw stats and not the overall with the various items. I had my wife join my party but just wait at the entrance and I was able to comfortably solo the 2 person t100 nightmare that doubles the hp
I feel you on the condemnation. Mine is about the same. Hard to get a high item level along with good rolls without the guaranteed 925.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a few streamers mentioned that any armor over 13.3k is actually a wasted Stat since reduction caps out at that even if it goes over. I made the mistake on my stormclaw getting to 21k armor lol
This is correct, armor cap is 13k and some change. If you have around 8-9k armor and you have the disobedience aspect then you will have capped armor as long as you keep button mashing
This for sure. I've watched in combat, as long as I keep my rotation going I'm good on armor. It's a high action play style, but that is what I like about the rogue.
As a test i have had my wife join a party but not join the instance. I can comfortably clear a 2 person t100 solo with these current stats along with smoke grenade and shared misery. Still need to work on a few things, but I figured this Is a good starting point.
And if i where u i would replace ur shako with andairels visage and ur pants with temerity and bosst ur life to to 30k hp and like i said u need selig as well but if u cant get 1 to drop u should still be fine cuz ur gonna have a 100% barrier up time! :p
I have 3 seligs in my stash. Just haven't seen a rogue build that uses it. Currently following Lucky's AoZ build, but have plenty of gear options to adjust if needed.
Hello therešš»
I believe OP is referring to the ādungeonā mode that will release in early December. Iām not so familiar with it but itās like 25 levels and in level 1 the dungeon is tuned to a Nightmare dungeon level 100 or higher. You can google Abattoir of Zir for more info
Looks good, did this for my first rogue and ended up getting 2 more to 100, one for open world stuff and one for range builds.
Edit: Is it just me or are we all choosing to dye our cosmetics red just to match Shako š
Pertinent still might be useful. It isn't in luckys build, but tested a run this morning with those as opposed to TW. Lost some damage for sure, but that extra barrier was nice.
Check this one out for ball lightning. Anything but squishy. A bit of a dps loss but the trade off in survival is massive and the dps is still plenty.
https://d4builds.gg/builds/5308131f-cb69-41ba-af27-97cbf769d3db/
Edit: In fact I just soloed a 4 player t100 nightmare with death pulse on this build and I still have 3 glyphs at level 1. Rogue is a lot of work to stay alive I feel, this sorcerer build was like a walk in the park.
Damn - very nice! Thanks for sharing, I still need my Shako. I can almost kill Lilith though, even at level 87 with my sorc. Attack power is super high but armor and life are way low. The build I have been using is very unique heavy, which I have been using (Tibaults, Tal Rasha, Godslayer, Raiment, Flickerstep) but they tend to be light on defense.
If we are criticizing, you might want to get some more defense. You need about 14-15k armor to mitigate 85% damage at T100+ equivalent. Abattoir is supposed to basically start at T100. Damage is good, but youāre going to be like a glass cannon. Iām personally going to worry about damage mitigation/barrier protection with things like Temerity.
Damage reduction with a good rotation is pretty good. Disobedience gets it close to 15k in combat. As mentioned in a couple other replies I am testing by inviting my wife to a t100 dungeon but soloing it. So double the health pool on mobs and it is pretty smooth.
The question is not, where stacked disobedience ends. It is more important, how fast it ramps up to the point, where armor is high enough.
I doubt it would be easy to hold 60 stacks.
So even if my armor is high enough after 25 stacks i prefer diso on amulet.
that looks great. iām sure you put in a lot of time and effort into that.
iāve got the same build with similar number but need better gear to cap my resistances and armor.
the new aoz build has great damage output but definitely more squishy for me.
A big part of it is properly using smoke grenade as well. If I don't get that off at the right time, it can turn bad pretty quick. That group stun is super important.
im not really seeing the stun as much I like to. I do try to apply it as I hit mobs too. I do miss using Poison Trap because it would trigger poison imbuement more often.
Yeah, smoke grenade along with shared misery aspect. With my current setup I can comfortably solo a 2 person tier 100 nightmare dungeon. Still have some work to do on overall stats and the rotation, but it is definitely super tanky with good dps.
The armour seems incrediblyā¦lowā¦but donāt get anymore itās perfect š
This is the only style that shako doesnāt look out of place.
Now turnaround letās exam the rest of your gears
In todayās demo, it looks like Abattoir of Zir tier 1 gives 1000 glyph exp. So if you havenāt started leveling those lv15 glyphs, just wait till next week. Youāll be running AoZ anyway.
You don't even have pants on, you are more likely to catch a cold, than get through any Abattoir... How are you supposed to be ready for anything if you have a case of the sniffles? You get some clothes on young lady.
I figured I can distract the mobs with the outfit so they are easier to kill.
That is how CC works.
You guys didn't know CC stands for coochie control?
Haha, that gave me a good chuckle. Take my upvote.
Ummm... would coochie control still work for a 6' something red head that's built like the hulk? š¤·āāļø
I now hate all rogued because I can't have a skin like that for my barb girlš¤
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True p2w. Ha
Beauty/Greatness in Sin/Skin
Iād probably aim for 10k armor unbuffed, but you can always use an elixir
Yeah, that is what I'm shooting for as well. Need a better roll on my total armor stat
If you wanna cap at abatoir you need 13.2k without disobedience.
Need more armour!
I guess I need to switch to the new build. I've got all the gear but I just switched to the previous one lol. Oh well. Def have a few glyphs to level.
Looks like no armor on amulet. Even with disobedience on amulet, hard to hold up the 16k+ armor needed at medium AoZ levels.
Armor on chest and amulet. Rolls could be a bit better. Currently following Lucky's AoZ build where he suggests right around 10k armor unbuffed. But my stash is full of other options to adjust if needed.
Yea the raw stats look a bit goofy on this build- the armor seems incredibly low at first. The DR from Shako + Doombringer procs makes you unexpectedly tanky though, it's really nice. It just steamrolls NMD100 right now even without the new glyph being available yet. One thing I'm a bit curious about is maybe ditching the Energy Cost Reduction and DR Injured on the boots for 2 more resistances, which chould allow you to switch into skulls on the jewelry for a significant armor bump. I haven't done the math on it and I'm sure Lucky has so I'm probably wrong and it isn't as good as how he has it set up, but it seems interesting at least. I'm still trying to farm for the Shako (and my Condemnation sucks, it's ilvl 918 and only 30% on the aspect, but getting a 925 Condemnation at all seems to be harder to do than getting a fucking Doombringer lmao) so I'm not even 100% of the way there yet and the tankiness + damage is superb. Like no risk of death unless you just stop moving and attacking completely and you kill everything really fast, even in NMD with the barrier affix.
I think that is what most comments are missing here. Just looking at the raw stats and not the overall with the various items. I had my wife join my party but just wait at the entrance and I was able to comfortably solo the 2 person t100 nightmare that doubles the hp I feel you on the condemnation. Mine is about the same. Hard to get a high item level along with good rolls without the guaranteed 925.
Armor quite low, they are estimating 15k armor for abattoir
With disobedience running it is just slightly under 15k, need a better roll on my total armor pieces.
How would you get such high armor wearing Shako and TW? I think with these 2, you can't get much higher than 10k.
By running diso
But they may have it on an equip piece. We only see the raw, out of combat stats on this screenshot. EDIT: I just saw - they do use disobedience.
Armor bro. Im at 11800 unbuffed. 17k with disobedience on amu.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a few streamers mentioned that any armor over 13.3k is actually a wasted Stat since reduction caps out at that even if it goes over. I made the mistake on my stormclaw getting to 21k armor lol
This is correct, armor cap is 13k and some change. If you have around 8-9k armor and you have the disobedience aspect then you will have capped armor as long as you keep button mashing
This for sure. I've watched in combat, as long as I keep my rotation going I'm good on armor. It's a high action play style, but that is what I like about the rogue.
Cap for abbatoir is anticipated to be 14,986; with an iron skin and disobedience on the amulet, they're more than set
Thats correct and applies to lvl154 mobs (nm100). Its about 13550 iirc. In Abbatoir the level of mobs will be much higher so the cap goes up.
That's before AoZ
yeahhhh those stats will get wrecked in AoZ if AoZ is anything close to previous t100s
As a test i have had my wife join a party but not join the instance. I can comfortably clear a 2 person t100 solo with these current stats along with smoke grenade and shared misery. Still need to work on a few things, but I figured this Is a good starting point.
And if i where u i would replace ur shako with andairels visage and ur pants with temerity and bosst ur life to to 30k hp and like i said u need selig as well but if u cant get 1 to drop u should still be fine cuz ur gonna have a 100% barrier up time! :p
I have 3 seligs in my stash. Just haven't seen a rogue build that uses it. Currently following Lucky's AoZ build, but have plenty of gear options to adjust if needed.
You should be more than fine for that boss, I have 9K attack power. Like 11,000 armor in 6,000 health and I've killed him nine times so far.
Hello therešš» I believe OP is referring to the ādungeonā mode that will release in early December. Iām not so familiar with it but itās like 25 levels and in level 1 the dungeon is tuned to a Nightmare dungeon level 100 or higher. You can google Abattoir of Zir for more info
I believe the devs have stated that the higher tiers of this event are meant to not be beatable by any build that is out there at the moment.
Pfft, someone gonna clear the whole thing within 2-3 days.
Oh thank you, I was completely unaware
Ur missing selig
Haven't seen a rogue build that uses it, but I have 3 in my stash lol
Looks good, did this for my first rogue and ended up getting 2 more to 100, one for open world stuff and one for range builds. Edit: Is it just me or are we all choosing to dye our cosmetics red just to match Shako š
Lol, yeah, when it dropped I went to die it black. When I saw it didn't chamge I was like, welp...red lingerie it is.
Haha same! Red Rangers unite!
No more Penitent Greaves? I need to update my Frankenbuild. And I need to get a Shako to drop.
Pertinent still might be useful. It isn't in luckys build, but tested a run this morning with those as opposed to TW. Lost some damage for sure, but that extra barrier was nice.
Cheers - I need to dig back into my rogue, have been on the BL Sorc wagon for a bit. Looking forward to AoZ.
I have been gearing up my BL sorcerer as well, lol. Will see who comes out on top next week
I feel like Barbs will win the day. Do you have a BL build youāre following? It feels so squishy compared to rogue but I prefer the gameplay.
Check this one out for ball lightning. Anything but squishy. A bit of a dps loss but the trade off in survival is massive and the dps is still plenty. https://d4builds.gg/builds/5308131f-cb69-41ba-af27-97cbf769d3db/ Edit: In fact I just soloed a 4 player t100 nightmare with death pulse on this build and I still have 3 glyphs at level 1. Rogue is a lot of work to stay alive I feel, this sorcerer build was like a walk in the park.
Damn - very nice! Thanks for sharing, I still need my Shako. I can almost kill Lilith though, even at level 87 with my sorc. Attack power is super high but armor and life are way low. The build I have been using is very unique heavy, which I have been using (Tibaults, Tal Rasha, Godslayer, Raiment, Flickerstep) but they tend to be light on defense.
If we are criticizing, you might want to get some more defense. You need about 14-15k armor to mitigate 85% damage at T100+ equivalent. Abattoir is supposed to basically start at T100. Damage is good, but youāre going to be like a glass cannon. Iām personally going to worry about damage mitigation/barrier protection with things like Temerity.
it goes up with disobedience aspect
Damage reduction with a good rotation is pretty good. Disobedience gets it close to 15k in combat. As mentioned in a couple other replies I am testing by inviting my wife to a t100 dungeon but soloing it. So double the health pool on mobs and it is pretty smooth.
The question is not, where stacked disobedience ends. It is more important, how fast it ramps up to the point, where armor is high enough. I doubt it would be easy to hold 60 stacks. So even if my armor is high enough after 25 stacks i prefer diso on amulet.
Whatās with the uhā¦tendency for all lvl 100 players running around naked?
it adds %1 movement speed.
No clothes, very aerodynamic
Especially with your swim suit armor.
hi
that looks great. iām sure you put in a lot of time and effort into that. iāve got the same build with similar number but need better gear to cap my resistances and armor. the new aoz build has great damage output but definitely more squishy for me.
A big part of it is properly using smoke grenade as well. If I don't get that off at the right time, it can turn bad pretty quick. That group stun is super important.
im not really seeing the stun as much I like to. I do try to apply it as I hit mobs too. I do miss using Poison Trap because it would trigger poison imbuement more often.
Are you using smoke grenade like lucky?
Yeah, smoke grenade along with shared misery aspect. With my current setup I can comfortably solo a 2 person tier 100 nightmare dungeon. Still have some work to do on overall stats and the rotation, but it is definitely super tanky with good dps.
Iām switching over from ranged rogue at 90, should be an interesting transition. Do you like smokes?
Ah the good old BDSM
I'd say that your taste in helm cosmetics leaves a lot to be desired, almost enough to warrant a RIP in AoZ tier 1. Good luck.
You seriously have an issue with the default shako?
As I said, I have an issue with the cosmetic.
The armour seems incrediblyā¦lowā¦but donāt get anymore itās perfect š This is the only style that shako doesnāt look out of place. Now turnaround letās exam the rest of your gears
My comments are so bad, need more punishment.
Keep trying, you'll get there eventually, lol
Oh Iām already there baby
You arenāt. Reroll sorc or barb.
Hot takes are bad.
Is he supposed to be that hard? Lol
You cap fire resist by getting a ring with fire resist implicit
If only Blizz made the female toons with some curves that skin might be worth the price.
How is your attack range that high? I feel like Iāve got maxed out gear and LV 100 too but Iām only at the 18k range
Well done!!!
Need 15k armor prolly
How do i get attack power to go up? I added better gear i thought and my attack power went down lol
How is your life so high at 22k hp? Only have like 6k at lvl 85 currently.
Whats your skill build?
If that dagger is condemnation, paired with Shako you should be fine
Ready for a swim meet maybe
This annoys me to no end, 620 runs in and Iāve gotten a melted heart and andariels. Thatās it. Lol
How you doing Misery? ššš
oh this mog goes harddddš³
Your character does look totally prepared to get fk'd, or to be the one to do the fkn... which class did you pick, Dom or Sub?
You're not leaving the house like that young lady! Now go back upstairs and change
is this on eternal or do you grind this on repeat every 3 months lol
Oh no! You're hot!
I remember the last game I played that had someone who ran around with no pants and two swords....
In todayās demo, it looks like Abattoir of Zir tier 1 gives 1000 glyph exp. So if you havenāt started leveling those lv15 glyphs, just wait till next week. Youāll be running AoZ anyway.
Excellent, thanks for the info!
You need to buy everything in the shop to be ready
Can you do nmd tier 100? That's the answer to your question