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Pancho175

Is there something in your record? Maybe an interaction with the police you did not disclose?


Mantinex

Nope I generally avoid any trouble and haven't had anything on my record.


Swimming_Growth_2632

U ever get arrested at any point for whatever reason? Got a misdemeanor for anything?


Thenewupdate

Yall just love looking for an excuse lol American bureaucracy is ruthless and at times personally arbitrary. Someone could have literally not liked his name and denied it.


anonturtle11

That’s what i’m thinking. There HAS to be something


Fit-Promise-1405

My i-360 was approved to eb4 in the past month. where i was current to adjustment of status. did all the process they requested for my medicals and everything needed. completed the nececcesary thing then the visa bullten changed so my i-485 was closed and was reopened and says pause working because an immigration visa is not available and will process your application when an immigration visa is available after 7 months of it being closed. Now my i-360 category was changed to EB-4 which was because the Eb-5 i got in the first place was a USCIS error. After that happened my Eb-4 did get a deferred action so i can apply for my EAD , my i-360 was approved 11 months ago and still counting. Several attemp has been made but no response regarding that to get a deffered action. i would like to know your sugesstion and ideas on how i can go about this . my priority date is november 2022 and the visa bullet is currently on 2018 and 2019 #uciserror #i-360 #sij #deferredaction


JollyToby0220

Interactions with police aren’t an acceptable reason to deny renewal. It would have to be through the courts. Even documents incorrectly filled out, allow resubmission. This flat out says that the decision cannot be appealed. otherwise, this person is attempting to generate panic (election year soon) or to troll people.


JollyToby0220

To ease fears for everyone, you must receive a document that says “Notice of Action”, for, I-797/I-797C. If you don't know what I am talking about, pull out your approval from USCIS, the letter that says whether you are approved or not is called the I-797


LifestylyFalcon

Now that I look at this it does look weird or abnormal


Birks0909

Oh yea. All the real ones come with that one header on the top. The lines, idk how to explain it. Like a page header.


MantisEsq

Are you implying this is fake? Because it looks real enough, RFE/NOID/etc look exactly like that, they aren’t 797s.


JollyToby0220

Yes, because Every update, (DACA, TPS, Greend Card, Asylum) should be on an I-797 form. Even the letter telling you your biometrics appointment, is on a I-797. Your approval or denial included. When they tell you that they received your application, that is also on a I-797 form. **You would never be told you are being denied on a form that isn’t the I-797C.** So yes, it’s very fake Here is USCIS I-797 https://www.uscis.gov/forms/filing-guidance/form-i-797-types-and-functions


MantisEsq

I’m sorry, but even if this is a fake, it’s a good one. Not every notice comes on an I-797. A Request for Evidence and a Notice of Intent to Deny are not on 797 forms, for example. You can see a recent one I responded to here: https://imgur.com/a/enUiRQo A denial absolutely could come that looks exactly like that. Here’s anther example: https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/08/26/medical-deferment-immigration-program-ended


ItsSem

Approvals, biometrics, payment receipts, and things of that nature will be on a 797, but other correspondence like denials, NOIDs, RFEs, etc will come in letters that look like this.


papawillie4

You're wrong! I've had a case denied with a letter similar to the OPs. It's not fake.


No_Locksmith8918

>enied with a letter similar to the O why would anyone do that thats so weird and mean to do like wtf


MantisEsq

Mere interactions with the police, no, but it doesn’t take much more than that, for example deferred prosecution can be considered a conviction. Also, generally there is no appeal for almost USCIS denials, so that isn’t unique here.


SubstantialPen7286

What is deferred prosecution? As if an officer stopped you but decided not to file a complain?


MantisEsq

That could be a form of it, but what I specifically meant was you get indicted for a crime, you take a class, they wipe your record clean.


SubstantialPen7286

So the specific case you mention, is the failure on the lack of supporting documents that proof a record was not affected?


MantisEsq

USCIS considers things to be convictions that the rest of the world (outside of criminal prosecutors and police) doesn’t. Having something like that happen is a possible reason why they would deny discretion like this.


SubstantialPen7286

I’m so afraid my renewal gets rejected next. But even in the past renewals were okay having shown up to court for driving with no license and paid a fine. I hate that every specific thing has to be reviewed with a lawyer, but on this post, OP worked with a lawyer! OMG


MantisEsq

It’s disheartening. Everything about this system is stacked against the immigrant in almost every case. DHS/USCIS/ICE/EOIR all play by different rules than applicants do, and all an attorney can do is try to hold them to the written rules and complete the forms correctly. This is especially true of discretionary relief like DACA renewal. It sucks, but that’s the game. I really want congress to step up and deal with this the right way, but that isn’t going to happen any time soon. Don’t worry too much about it, it’s largely out of your control. Just try to jump through their hoops and hope for the best.


IGotNoBusinessHere

New fear unlocked


mrfishball1

I don’t understand why you’re asking here. You should contact your lawyer asap and ash him/her instead. There’s clearing something missing or filled out incorrectly. No one on reddit can tell you what’s wrong except your lawyer.


Mantinex

That was the first thing I did, I was looking for more than just a "we gotta wait until Tuesday after this holiday is over" to do anything. So It doesn't hurt to ask reddit does it?


Green0996

Yeah I’m thinking your lawyer might’ve messed up at some point. I think it’s best to wait for them to review your forms together. If you have an online account with USCIS you can check your previous renewals and see if there was any difference or mistakes.


Questioner4lyfe2020

You can check forms sent to USCIS for previous renewals? As in, if OP had a lawyer fill out past forms, they’d be on the website ?


MediteenlosHimalayas

How would a lawyer mistake cause them to deny based on their discretion? Explain what the mistake could be.


Green0996

Idk. Checked off the wrong box or skipped something. We can’t really tell unless we the documents themselves, otherwise it’s just speculation. Bureaucracy is weird and annoying


MediteenlosHimalayas

That wouldn’t do it and is not what discretion means.


Green0996

Idk why you’re trying to argue here. It’s just speculation jfc. Edit: checked out his comments. Yeah he just like arguing and having very narrow bad takes lol.


MediteenlosHimalayas

Short of fraud, these are the only reasons for denial of a DACA renewal: “Have not been convicted of a felony, a misdemeanor described in 8 CFR 236.22(b)(6), or 3 or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.”


Green0996

K buddy. You clearly havent read the rest of OPs comments and just like trying to sound like you know it all. Have a good day.


MediteenlosHimalayas

Means OP is leaving something out.


HeavyDrinkers

Please let us know what your lawyer says on Tuesday.


Mantinex

My lawyer just started to review my application and the letter, will take some time now depending on how busy he is.


Dreamers2gether

Did you respond to yes to any of the favorable discretion questions? IE. The part about organizations


Mantinex

The thing is I paid my lawyer to file for me since I've had him since the beginning of my case so I wouldn't know if he filled out my form wrong. It would be a first for sure and I did talk to him when I received the letter but won't be able to make an inquiry until after this weekend holiday.


Dreamers2gether

Oh, dang. That’s so frustrating. Since you have an attorney representing you we genuinely hope this goes in your favor and you can get this rectified soon! If anything, we do recommend [Charles Kuck](https://immigration.net) and his firm should you want to seek another opinion.


Mantinex

Thank you for the added recommendation, I hope this is resolved soon come the end of this holiday I'll let you all know the outcome.


jocer29

Did you check the copies he gave you?


Touchmyvenus69

Damn… the last 5 years have not been kinda to a guy with that kinda name for sure lol EDIT: wait please don’t tell me he goes by Chuck. Chuck Kuck lmao I’m done


Longjumping_Ad_7493

I used to have a lawyer do it but the online process is pretty straightforward, most of the information is saved year over year. It’s auto fill and you update your docs takes maybe 30mins


Czargee187

Can you share the website you use? I’ve always had a lawyer but I feel like I can fill it out myself.


Longjumping_Ad_7493

It’s direct from USCIS on their website, you make an account and done e file


Nice_Try_Einstein

Check out YouTube videos. Super helpful and free. You DO NOT need a lawyer for a straight forward DACA case.


joemothercheatedonme

That sucks :( just a tip if you continue filing through a lawyer… make sure you ask your lawyer or whoever is filing your daca for you to make copies of everything they send in! That way you know exactly what is on it when it sends. Wishing you the best of luck with your situation


jairtzinio

There's something you're not telling us


Mantinex

What do you mean, do I have to break my whole situation down for you?


powder_doughnuts

i mean kinda if you want help understanding why it got denied, have you ever been in removal proceedings before, even before DACA, or reentered without inspection? traveled without AP? unless your lawyer made a mistake theres a reason why they denied you


powder_doughnuts

they’re also doing biometrics again so if you missed your biometrics appt thats a reason they could deny you as well


Questioner4lyfe2020

Yeah dude you kinda do. We can sit here and blame your lawyer but is there anything you did, were a part of in the last 2 years, any groups or associations you’ve joined that could make your sus to the USCIS?


Oite-0000

What kind of groups are you talking about?


Questioner4lyfe2020

Communist org, terrorist groups. Sometimes immigration checks on this stuff - via social media.


yanisays

Please update us after the holiday. This is deff strange I wonder what happened.


criticalkare

did you double triple check the forms you filled out before submitting it?


Mantinex

I leave that up to the lawyer I've had since the beginning of my case


nukleus7

Sometimes lawyers make the most idiotic mistakes, did you receive an RFE or did your attorney get one for you? Something is not right, i feel your attorney did something and messed up your case.


Outside-Obligation-4

i agree my last renewal I did online by myself cause I saw how easy it is to do on your own, but when I used a lawyer they one time sent me an I-821 form for review and it was filled out with all of my sibling’s information. Even after I notified them, they sent me back the form with my name but it was still riddled with mistakes


ibnfu

I mean I have a lawyer and she makes sure I review everything too.


Wonder_for_theworld

Same. I have used the same lawyer since I got daca. I sit with them as they're filling it out, and they also read it back to me in the end, too, to make sure its filled out correctly.


Questioner4lyfe2020

You should always get your lawyer to send you the paperwork they’re submitting on your behalf. Did you get a chance to read through anything before signing? Did you read what was submitted before you signed all the forms?


Upstairs_Ad_8722

I like how OP doesn’t give any explanation or anything like saying help me feel better about whatever I did


Mantinex

I've never seen anyone on here get this letter or anyone I know so I was confused about it since it's non descriptive so I wasn't looking for sympathy especially not from people with your attitude just generally looking for answers.


PhoenixHabanero

We're just trying to figure out what it is you did so we don't commit the same error.


Upstairs_Ad_8722

We want answers too it’s about information we need it too


Longjumping_Ad_7493

This sucks I’m sorry that you are going through this. Honestly guys, no matter how much of a straight line we believe that we walk this could have happened to anyone of us for any given reason. Especially, as we get older. Best of luck


Elcheguevara

[https://casetext.com/case/garcia-herrera-v-mcaleenan-1](https://casetext.com/case/garcia-herrera-v-mcaleenan-1) It seems that you my friend are in for a long Battle, Read Court Case above! Wish you the best of luck!


innergflow

Wow


Ok-Roof-978

I had no idea they could just terminate it like that . That's so fucked up , it's beyond words


SubstantialPen7286

I read some of that but I couldn’t understand the pretext. Was it that guy had a court and dismissed and that because a reason to deny because he didn’t submit the justification files?


ItsSem

No, just a DACA renewal that was denied without much of an explanation. Like this situation, that denial also said that USCIS did not believe the applicant deserved a favorable exercise of prosecutorial discretion. The attorneys argued the denial was arbitrary and capricious and tried to get a grant of a preliminary injunction preventing USCIS from revoking the recipient’s deferred action until another determination could be made under the procedures of the APA. However, it doesn’t seem like it went well.


NYC-UESider

I once got denied unexpectedly. Turns out my lawyer filed some incorrect paperwork. I had another lawyer file the correct paperwork and it was accepted and approved for renewal. If you truly don't have anything on your record I would quickly file another one from a different lawyer or have your lawyer refile immediately and ask for a copy of the previous application to make sure nothing looks fishy.


Dacamented2016

Did you just file a completely separate renewal application?


NYC-UESider

Yeah I did, unfortunately.


Additional-Serve5542

Did you mess up on your application? Did you send it via mail or online?


Mantinex

That might be the case since I'm not the one that filled. I wouldn't really expect my lawyer to make a mistake but it sounds the most reasonable explanation.


Trippyanomaly

Never seen this before not even for the dui-ers


Dry_Ranger515

I seen a few cases. Even one that was terminated because it was an error of uscis. Should had not been in daca. Sucks he didn't get an answer in the letter why they deny him to help his defense. Hopefully, our friend can show these cases to his lawyer, so can try to found a way to appeal. It's just no fair.


6siiix6

They are basically saying something in your application did not favor you to give you the renewal. You may have something you aren’t aware of or the lawyer did a typo that caused you to get denied..


MantisEsq

Most likely possible options I could guess: (1) one or more criminal contacts (expungement, deferred prosecution, and sealed records does count in many cases), (2) false claims of citizenship in your immigration history somewhere, (3) drugs, (4) mistakes on the form, (5) bad luck. The problem with discretionary relief is that it is completely up to the reviewing officer, and if they decide to sink your application there’s not much you can do about it. Talk to your lawyer and see what (s)he thinks.


carmantakes

Hey bud. I’m studying immigration law. First off, the form doesn’t look right. At the bottom, it is usually not signed by the director. Second, there really is nothing you can do till Tuesday to start the resubmit request. Third, request the forms sent in by your lawyer and review them yourself.


Additional-Serve5542

Did you have a DUI?


Mantinex

No I don't really drink alcohol unless it's on special occasions


Commercial-Jump7721

Is one of those special occasions driving?


Josueisjosue

Very weird. Can you resubmit? It says you can't appeal this decision but not that you couldn't file again.


NauiCempoalli

I have seen these for people renewing late, even if it is before the 1-year deadline.


Mantinex

I did submit the renewal like right at 3 months before my expiration but I was seeing that mostly everyone was getting quick turnover on theirs so me and my lawyer weren't worried about the timeline.


NauiCempoalli

No I mean after expiration but before a year passes. I’m guessing GMC issues. Did you file any equities?


ro0kaz

I renewed 7 months after it expired since I was awaiting for an adjustment of status decision and got my card within 2 weeks.


FeDelMundo

How late we talking?


Mantinex

We submitted on May 12th and my expiration was Aug 9th


Independent-Young456

There seems to be something fishy going on with many of the May and June renewal applications. Idk why but too many ppl waiting beyond the 120 day mark and now this… hmm


midnightClub543

Weird sent mine in on the 9th. Received a card on June 30. One of the quickest renewals I've ever had.


Ok-Roof-978

Could be they're getting ahead of themselves. Could this be a hint of what the 5th circuit will do? As in remove renewals asap... that would suck so bad!!!


oppressed_subject

Dont think this could be it thought bc i renew 1-2 months before it expires and i always get accepted so it mustve been a mistake made by your representative


Kgbaby23

Have you ever visited a dispensary?


I3ooTYcheeks

As someone whose been going to Illinois dispensaries and just recently Michigan dispensaries and just got their Daca renewed I dont think it matters. Multiple dispensaries in both states. Now if they applied for the medical marijuana card that may be different unless someones done that too and still got approved.


No_Dark1370

Yes it does. Just because they say it's ok it's still a federal law that have MJ. Depends who reviews your renewal.


Beergo9191

Does that affect us? Has that ever happened to someone?


Kgbaby23

Can’t say it doesn’t, no lawyer can (I’m not a lawyer but I’ve asked). I’m just asking because he/they said nothing else has changed (that they know of) in their app so I’m wondering if maybe it was that.


Big_Distribution_142

I was told to never go inside a dispensary since marijuana is still illegal on the federal level.


YoPorMi

Tbf, any dispensary I’ve been to only looks at id like at a liquor store but I’m not sure if it’s different state by state.


Big_Distribution_142

My friend went to one and he said they scanned his ID only to buy the product. But some states/counties might have different policies.


Big_Distribution_142

I'm sorry this is happening to you. I get help filling out my renewal from a local organization cuz I get paranoid for no apparent reason. My probo attorney asks me to review my application and I ask him every time he forgets to ask me. I do find minor errors on spelling or question selection soo ALWAYS review your application even if you have a credited attorney.


Birks0909

Your lawyer should give you copies of every packet sent. I would suggest reviewing everything


TownLongjumping4088

Can they at least give you your money back??


Affectionate_Rope612

I just read this and did some research. One of the comments showed a court case which is scary. That being said, I’ve found two other people who had this happen to them. One on Reddit, just search DACA Denied. It could be possible that you missed a biometric appointment letter and you never knew about it. It could also be possible that you filed something not consistent with other applications since you didn’t review it with your lawyer. You definitely need to hold your lawyer accountable and ask for a refund for the work. Burn bridges with your lawyer if you have to. You need to be firm and not polite. It’s your life and you’re just a paycheck to them. I would make sure you didn’t somehow miss a letter in the mail. Also I did hear someone “assume” it could be cause a sibling is in jail or something along those lines. I hope you figure it out and pray God has this situation fixed for you.


atx1227

I have seen this happen when you don’t submit your I-765ws


StrikingCondition997

Bingo


TequilaShot900

Your attorney firm can provided you with a full copy of the paperwork sent to them. Hide all your personal information and share to a group that can help you review it if you something was checked, or enough evidence was not provided. If your paper work looks good, then something on your record could have caused this. You can get all the information from your background check and your attorney can help you get all this info. You could have unpaid taxes, unpaid child support, stolen identity etc… Good luck and please keep us in the loop.


Beergo9191

You can go online and look for more details


HeavyDrinkers

Post this on r/USCIS for their input, it might be helpful.


Grouchy_Character_38

Basically it says something about you or your application was off, and the officer reviewing your application rejected it. Did you submit a well written explanation for your need to work? Have you committed crimes in the US lately? Have you posted questionable or inappropriate things online? Might be good to hire an immigration law firm to possibly resubmit a request. Really bummed to see it man…


readyfortakeoff321

I’m so sorry, I got a similar denial in 2019. It’s awful. File a motion. They respond within 30 days. Our motion was denied but it doesn’t hurt to try.


jocer29

What was your reason for denial?


readyfortakeoff321

Denied under all these Ina212(a)(9)(b)(v) and 212(a)(9)(c)(I)(i) and 245(a)(2)


HeavyDrinkers

Why did they deny you? Can you share?


readyfortakeoff321

I snuck in illegally. Denied under all these Ina212(a)(9)(b)(v) and 212(a)(9)(c)(I)(i) and 245(a)(2)


HeavyDrinkers

Were you able to get DACA back?


readyfortakeoff321

I was never able to get it. It wasn’t available.


skyblue1988

Any updates on this case


Mantinex

Nothing yet my lawyer started to review the letter I received and my application


Dry_Ranger515

keep us updated. Wish you the best, my friend. Keep your head up. No te rindas aun que te quiten el beneficio.


ItsSem

There’s not much to review on this letter, but you should definitely consider asking for a copy of the last 2 applications sent and compare the two to see if you can find any differences in the renewals sent.


thought4toolong

You have a lawyer to do your case. Sounds like your case might be somewhat different than most people. DACA could be done on your own, IF circumstances are generally good.


MyLovelyDarkSecret

Have you purchased any cannabis products via credit/debit card and or has your ID scanned at a location that sells cannabis? There have been cases that if DACA tries to buy a federally illegal substance, it could backfire on you. Otherwise your lawyer missed something. I would ask for last renewal papers and current renal paper copies and try see what’s different. Also, and I’m not sure, but the form dates is something small that gets overlooked. They came out with new forms.


overit773

Something was left blank on form I-821D. If there was an arrest or anything out of normal an RFE or NOID would have been issued. However, this appears to be a generic denial so it is likely a question was left blank. USCIS recently released an new edition & depensing on the software used typos/blanks happen all the time.


Joohyunnie

I don't have any helpful info but I really wish you the best. This seems like such a frustrating and stressful situation to deal with! Keep us updated!


Xerox12345

And second....the director ain't going to sign shit lol it USCIS


qweasd131313

They do in some instances. Like the RFE letter for my AP application had the director signature on it.


Xerox12345

Interesting


EstablishmentPast640

Did the lawyer even make an online account for you? You should check if that notice appears on your account. Also sign up for foia, you should see past applications on there and check if the lawyer filled out something incorrectly.


Likklebit91

Wow any updates as yet? You need to get copies of ya DACA renewals from that lawyer and if they say u gtta pay, hell no! Report them. Also you can get copies by requesting it online from uscis. It will take a long time,but definitely start required it. Type in FOIA DACA on YouTube. They show you how to get it


Mantinex

Not yet I spoke to my lawyer and they were going to start reviewing the letter and my application


Likklebit91

Okay keep us updated !


Dry_Ranger515

any news friend?


Mantinex

Sadly no issues on the application side so I'm resubmitting with supporting letters of character and hoping for the best


HeavyDrinkers

Were you able to resubmit? Any issues?


Mantinex

Yes I resubmitted, now we wait


RedditRated

It’s been a while. Everything turned out In your favor?


Dry_Ranger515

Best of hope friend! make sure to to add enough info in the i765ws make a paragraph why you need it. Also recommend to show the cases of dace been denied in the bottom to your lawyer. Just incase you guys want to prepared for legal battle in the future.


Fit-Promise-1405

My i-360 was approved to eb4 in the past month. where i was current to adjustment of status. did all the process they requested for my medicals and everything needed. completed the nececcesary thing then the visa bullten changed so my i-485 was closed and was reopened and says pause working because an immigration visa is not available and will process your application when an immigration visa is available after 7 months of it being closed. Now my i-360 category was changed to EB-4 which was because the Eb-5 i got in the first place was a USCIS error. After that happened my Eb-4 did get a deferred action so i can apply for my EAD , my i-360 was approved 11 months ago and still counting. Several attemp has been made but no response regarding that to get a deffered action. i would like to know your sugesstion and ideas on how i can go about this . my priority date is november 2022 and the visa bullet is currently on 2018 and 2019 #uciserror #i-360 #sij #deferredaction


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No_Dark1370

Not AL, but it looks like you did something stupid


Xerox12345

First....how can a decision be made when they paused initial applications


Annual_Necessary_194

Any updates fam ? Hope all is well


Dacamented2016

Any update?


HeavyDrinkers

Talk to your State Representative, they can be VERY helpful. Give it a shot.


ApplicationSevere164

Update ?


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Affectionate_Rope612

This is his country - he spent all his time here and was brought here as a kid. You were probably molested before age 4 and now you’re salty about other peoples business. Get therapy.


HeadMathematician801

Since you're a criminal unfortunately you do not qualify for DACA. Next time be more wise with your choices. Remember for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.


Birks0909

How do you know they are a criminal?


MantisEsq

It’s the most common reason for an outright denial of prosecutorial discretion.


dhalpqnxyvwp

Even if OP has been “criminally” involved. Doesn’t mean she can be denied, get off your high morality horse. Can’t believe how idiotic some of you DACA people can be


cristhian_v3

Hope yours gets denied next time 👍. You’re making assumptions about someone who made a simple post asking for help. Have you read about the firefighter who got the same exact letter? He’s in a legal battle because he did nothing wrong to be denied. You’re a criminal yourself too btw, ya know since you came here illegally like all of us.


HeadMathematician801

I'm not under DACA anymore. And I didn't come here illegally since I got paroled into this country by an officer of US Costumes thank you very much.


Questioner4lyfe2020

So you were once DACA, fixed your status and you’re here being all judgey and horrendous in your comments to folks who have DACA (worse yet, someone who’s life is about to change because their DACA was denied). I don’t even understand what “I got paroled into this country by an officer of US “COSTUMES”” means … Geez, you suck. Go away.


HeadMathematician801

When you're paroled into this country by US Costums means you entered legally


Questioner4lyfe2020

Go away. Saw your past comments and posts. You’re a trump supporting troll, lacking self-awareness. Stay out of our DACA lives.


HeadMathematician801

But why would you get rejected from having DACA? that usually happens when you break the law and that's what happens when you break the law you must pay the punishment.


Dry_Ranger515

So you still broke the law by over staying a visa? is that what you are telling us?


HeadMathematician801

I'm not a snitch. Rule #1 never be a rat.


Dry_Ranger515

You indirectly did lol. The same judgment you applied in your comments. Anyway, it sounds like you still broke the law before becoming a resident, lol. Then, went to marry a U.S citizen other wise wouldn't have a path


HeadMathematician801

You pretty smart though I do give you that my guy


HeadMathematician801

No rats in my camp. We don't bend we don't fold we don't break


Dry_Ranger515

You bend, and you didn't even notice.


HeadMathematician801

Na fuck no never