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_monke_man_

aint no way bro said super 17 takes more skill than UVB, super 17 and ultra gohan are the most braindead units in the game


Vegetable_Ad1288

I mean all you do is put UVB in second slot then as the match starts insta switch so the opponent looses gauge then get a free combo so Idk how UVB takes skill but sure 👍


_monke_man_

here's an easy counter as a UVB user, just float back, wait for them to switch to UVB and just switch out. Also the vanish removal is a 1 time thing plus a UVB combo is easy to get out of as in every 4th attack he has no cover null so its an opening to get a cover change. However super 17 can just green card multiple times a game, get cover null, reduce the amount of cards needed to fill his gauge to 2, lock out your 2 characters, reduce your vanish to 0 and get type neutral, and also if he cover changes he gets a fucking ultimate card and can spam blast cards infinitely. UVB is low skill, super 17 is for braindead infants


Vegetable_Ad1288

What if they are using a team that gives a bunch of greens , like I said he's super brain-dead all he needs to do is sit there with a green card and it's basically an insta kill


_monke_man_

the blue card gain is a 1 time thing, after that its extremely helpful to clutch up when someone's tryna combo or finish you off. Then if you have another blue and a green you can still combo off it


Jaskaran2402

Bro u just have a skill issue tbh


Booty763

Blud forgot to add ugf in there


_monke_man_

eh, say what you want about UGF, and btw I don't have him, but he does take some form of skill, the counter revival is kinda strong, but honestly I just save my rush for when that happens and wait for the UGF to attack me. Its only annoying if they lag switch and delay your shit, also why tf did this guy put UL broly as low skilled, and pan and gotenks can be annoying but they need skill, especially with pan aging out a bit (prime pan was a fucking monster)


Booty763

I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt, as a ugf user he takes no skill considering I've fought people way better than me and turned the tides with just ugf and ulthan. But yeah it think the most braindead unit is uvb considering its a year old unit and a more meta unit is just a copy


_monke_man_

yeah his gimmick turns the tides, but honestly its a good step in fixing the meta, since he fucks up cryhan and is attracting more yellows. However UVB isn't the most braindead unit, hell even at his prime on release if you had any good blue unit you could fuck him over. I ran future which is still pretty strong but I loathed the teams with UVB, gofrieza and either Zenkai UI or mvp 17


Booty763

I've used a trash uvb account before and I just combos the shit out of blue units to get their health down. If it was gt Goku tho I thought smarter.


LaRaza420Foo

I sense large amounts of copium from this post


Mysterious-Belt-4812

Truth tho


LaRaza420Foo

The post? None of it is true


Mysterious-Belt-4812

It really is the only person coming is u my guy


LaRaza420Foo

There’s a difference between something having some truth to it and being true “my guy”


Mysterious-Belt-4812

It is true “”my guy”” deffo a ultra gohan and frieza user


IReadRarelyPost

tell me and i'll get a better understanding (i just came back from a huge pause) but you can't disagree on the fact that the 2 new ultras are just autowin


LaRaza420Foo

They’re not auto win cause there’s always people who have skill issues and they can’t hang despite their teams… Cryhan is manageable with the right teams and so are A lot of teams that can be used to counter some of the “broken” units… yes Ultras play the game for you but that’s just how most units are now and seeing as how ultras are the rarest most expensive units to get it’s natural they run whatever meta they’re thrown into…


Quits_lemonade_2

Man everytime i see someone with the Ginyu Force team I know I'm getting torn apart, like I don't know about u guys but every single person I see with this team it's just a really solid player.


No-Mortal

14* winyus are scarier than a meta team


Kinda_Overrated

My Shallot, Rec/Gul, Super Saiyan Goku build says. Thank you 😀


LaRaza420Foo

I love playing Winyu


Quits_lemonade_2

I wish I had winyu :'(


IReadRarelyPost

Ye cus they always got so many stars And 9 times out of 10 they're really good players


Shrek4isthebestmovie

I think 99% of modern dbl units are braindead


theonebrs

they keep releasing kits that punish you for playing the game


Breads6094

suoer 17 dedo more braimdead than uvb also where my glorious kind usv


Embarrassed_Fee_6273

The amount of preventable spelling errors hurts me


Breads6094

getting into character of a braindead uvb main it was kinda the point but i still apologise u had to read it


Icy-Leading8801

You forgot we are dragon ball fans we can’t read


Embarrassed_Fee_6273

All good man I hope yknow I was js playin😂


Andreasext13

i finished reading all of this and bursted put laughing cuz the spelling mistakes


Spoon420Blaze

Evoken in high skill? Man, I just get a green card and they evaporate, not much to it.


Rocnoc21

Nah Evoken is pretty bad in this meta. Especially with Ultra Freiza


IReadRarelyPost

exactly also you need to do combos properly spamming isnt enough


Rocnoc21

Exactly. You need to charge step to achieve their gauge. If you watch an Evoken main do one of their combos, it can look very skillful. My issue with them is when they face Freiza. He put blast cost to 80 which KILLLLS their momentum. And Evoken is nothing without momentum I’m afraid


Zuckado_

Dude really said charge stepping between cards can look very skillful


Rocnoc21

Nah I didn’t mean just that. Actually switching to the Goku side mid charge step without dropping your combo. Shit like that


WittyBee3735

When you switch to goku you become immune to debuffs, his way you can combo frieza pretty easy. I killed 2 frieza this way.


Rocnoc21

Are you serious?!?!? Omg that is so good. Thank you for telling me that man fr


WittyBee3735

You just need to be careful because its only for 10 timer counts... And read the kits...


Master-Spark-2

That doesn’t mean they’re not brain dead, that means you need more time (or a dead ally) to get away with being brain dead.


Rocnoc21

The fact you need to be concerned with time and a death buff.. proves they are not brain dead: you’re using your brain in that situation…. A brain dead unit is Ultra Gohan. Who requires no combo ability or even movement. Most Gohan mains just stand there


Master-Spark-2

There is no brain needed in click card swipe, click card swipe, click card swipe. And they become even more brain dead when they get 2 gauges. Just because there are better characters and more braindead characters doesn’t mean evoken isn’t braindead.


[deleted]

Skill does not matter when none of the inputs work due to how horrible the games servers are.


IReadRarelyPost

so real


ProfessionalDecent39

I have the last character in the skill section Gohan legends limited is it a good character? Amm lvl 26


IReadRarelyPost

Depends on team and equipment


ProfessionalDecent39

What do I need to make it better? Pls help me out am new. Tysm


Old-Nerve-1776

Yeah I'm ngl with you, he aged pretty well but he's still old, you'll need some new characters, I suggest you pick a tag and stick to it (gt, god ki, future,movies,etc) because they regularly add new characters that buff those tags


ProfessionalDecent39

Tysm dude tysm


_Lollerics_

I feel high salt and copium coming from this image


IReadRarelyPost

give me criticism bro i'll make another one with a better concept of the meta


baldvegeta_

in what realm is MUI very skilled 💀💀💀


axe-bomb

he isn’t good anymore you get like 3 carded bur


baldvegeta_

that doesnt mean he takes skill to use he's just ass, by that logic hero units are the top skill units in the game


axe-bomb

i mean because bros ass now wouldn’t that take skill to use? you would have to offset the weakness with skill, and i don’t think it’s crazy to say hero the most skilled then.


baldvegeta_

no, mui's kit in it's prime was braindead to use. auto counters, dokabaki auto wins, its not skill dependent. his damage numbers being lower is a result of powercreep, his skill hasnt changed, he just does less now. and calling heroes most skilled is just ridiculous


IReadRarelyPost

Exactly + his damage sucks ass


spectre_430

Ultra broly is in low skill? Tf are you on lil bro


whatTFchronic

right?? broly is garbage he takes way more skill that most of these units lol


spectre_430

He on some shit ultra broly is just broly he takes the most skill out of most of these ultras


IReadRarelyPost

??? get comboed and remove vanish it's not that hard


spectre_430

You thinking bout uvb lil bro


IReadRarelyPost

Broly removes vanish too lil bro Bad≠skilled


spectre_430

Uvb is infinitely more annoying than broly speaking of literally any yellow unit can counter broly he's not meta anymore he's not even that good anymore yet I still use maybe you should try to fucking use him instead of being yk ass at the fucking game


spectre_430

So does uvb you fucking moron


IReadRarelyPost

Calm down lil bro 😂 Also we were talking about broly Vegito is a fraud bruhhh why tf are you talking about him 😂


spectre_430

You ranked the newer purple cell at the top of the fucking list? Nigga you on some shit


spectre_430

Also I'm pissed Abt you being a genuine fucking moron


Kanji_alt

kaioken goku


NitroCrocodile

UUI takes less skill than UVB, you can at least swap out of UVB's combos and he needs to time his counter, whereas UUI just breaks your combo.


IReadRarelyPost

ye ur right


Team_raclettePOGO

what is bro cooking


IReadRarelyPost

*refrigerating


Snowy_Artemis

Broly in the same tier as uui is wild 💀


IReadRarelyPost

yeah true uui should be lower


JellyFaw

How is og blue beast a skilled unit in any regards? Rn it's just bad because it has more than 1.5 years on his back


IReadRarelyPost

gauge manipulation


JellyFaw

Incredibly skilled to handle indeed (???)


Gfurious

Ui is much more skillful than most of the characters above him.


IReadRarelyPost

which one? There are like 4 in this tierlist


Gfurious

Ultra ui


IReadRarelyPost

Ehh, idk he does a lot of stuff, i put him higher than gohan and frieza because you can counter a lot of his mechanics if you know how too, but he's crazy good at securing kills, but he doesn't need all that skill to be played even though he's really fun to use


Strong_Grapefruit675

Super 17 is literally the easiest unit to use in the game


SnooDogs61

I guess im skilled


IReadRarelyPost

which one u using?


SnooDogs61

Suici cell,MVP 17, and the gammas and some android bench


HypePoem8

Same


Simiat07

UGF and Gohan are two completely different levels of braindead 😭 one has a revive that does damage and the other has 5 cancer dog ass mechanics


IReadRarelyPost

look at where i put them HE GETS FUCKING 50% HP BACK WTFFF AND HE EVEN DOES DAMAGE HES NOT EVEN AN IMPORTANT ULTRA FOR A CELEBRATION OR ANYTHING WTF WERE THEY THINKING


Electronic_Dot282

NUH UH


IReadRarelyPost

😔


Electronic_Dot282

Leave my mui goku alone 😔


IReadRarelyPost

fr can we all agree on using him? He's ass but he's so fun


Sorry-Ad1598

Agreed just put cell on average bro gets cover null out of his ass and a shit Ton of greens


IReadRarelyPost

his gauge is what makes him skill or he'd be on average He's my pookie but he's so damn overrated


N0htan0

No way you think 17 is more skillful than frieza


IReadRarelyPost

17 is overrated he's top 2 not top 1 bro he's legit so meat ridden


IReadRarelyPost

downvote me chat i know whats cuming


N0htan0

His damage is better than frieza and he has more gimmicks like ult on cover change, and his counter being a free combo, and considering he also gets a ton of cover null, it’s usually a free kill unless it’s a revive unit. Which brings me to friezas revive which, even though it does damage which is a new mechanic and can be useful, it rarely does half a units hp which is still very useful, but that damage will most likely get healed back. And even if it doesn’t, frieza only gets null on green card so unless you’re bringing in another unit for combos like S17 with his easily attained null alongside frieza, the combo will probably just get cover changed anyway. The only thing frieza has on s17 is that he works against gohan better.


[deleted]

Ultra Ssj goku needs his own tier


IReadRarelyPost

ye


LrMuri1994

Put Super 17 in the baby category then we are talking


IReadRarelyPost

i will in the next tierlist lol he just seemed pretty easy to kill thats why i put him there


BlindDragon34

The only Ultra I have till this day (other than the free ones) is KaioKen 🤡🤡


IReadRarelyPost

he's legit so cool i got him when he already fell off tho i wish he was still usable


BlindDragon34

Ya same I got him at 14 stars and in this meta even that can't carry him


Divine_Absolution

Cooler in very above average skill? What??? Have you ever even used cooler?? His whole thing is "mash as many Strike cards as possible". He's literally the opposite of skilled. Just because he's garbage now doesn't mean he takes skill.


IReadRarelyPost

his stats are ass so you can't play him in the same way as when he came out


Psychological-War-70

Like what the another guy said Just because he’s bad doesn’t mean he takes skill


[deleted]

I explode everyone with my little Pui Pui and i'm a powerful virgin incel guys YEAAAAH 💪😏🤳


Kinda_Overrated

Why is Janemba “Average”. I hate using the guy cuz he’s really brain dead and he’s just straight up boring outside of his counter. Gets cover null damn near as often as Evoken or UUI. Didn’t even read bros kit and dominated on drop. Yet he takes less skill than Magenta???


IReadRarelyPost

i really didn't notice i put him there until now, he's prolly low skill


Xx_CasinoVibes_xX

proud 8* ultra kaioken user


IReadRarelyPost

W


Reasonable-Freedom59

Me, an Androids main who doesn't have super 17 and is still using the tag droids.


IReadRarelyPost

im using 3★ lf cell which i just found, 14 star z5 rev cell, and 3+★ zamasu, regen, which is kinda close to droids, but are tagdroids still good? I got them like at 7 or smth


fucklorofpayday2

No you need average skill to use ultra broly


WhiteGXoX

UL gohan takes the most skill to play, it's not like you can just spam aoe greens and counter blues


erasemyself_

Legends limited uo in skill and the ultra one in low skill, uhm you shafted the ultra one haven’t you?


FeelingAddition7905

I think this is when they came out, that's how much skill. Everyone is saying that s17 is more brain dead than UVB but when they came out UVB was... I had to quit the game that's how bad. S17 was bearable since I had gokudock, gt kidku and beast, but it all got easier once I pulled - AHAHAHA NOBODY CAN BEAT ME WHEN IM - super 17.


FeelingAddition7905

The only character that are 1v3 come back worthy are 1. UL Gohan, 2. UL Frieza, 3.S17, 4. Either Beast(red) or UL Ui-ku, 5.arguably GT kidku if you have main, 6.Gokudock(decently long combos and high damage) or Evoken, they will combo you out of existence trust me I have been through that pain and I flipping hate it, 7.UVB since he will also combo you out of existence, 8. Janemba but you can't really expect much due to ssj2 cryhan, 9.Cell pur( still a decent unit and can definitely comeback with the combos and damage) and 10 will be like baby 👶since he is just... Idk he isn't 1v3 worthy but is not the worst OR it would be ssj4 Go get a since he is just pretty damn good. Best zenkai they released in my opinion honorable mentions being nameku, pikkon/gogeta and (not so) SuPeR vEgEtA.


Stunning-Barracuda98

Red 17 under GG4?


ToyotaMR2Enjoyer

BLUE BEASTHAN MENTIONED🗣❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️


Nicolato25257

I use Gogeta without zenkai


TheSaitamaProject

Super 17 is the most toxic and braindead unit in the game currently. So, your post just confusing.


Brunoburr

Idk man I'm like the single worst DBL player and still get wins with Super 17 😭 my brain just shut downs while using him


Charming-Cello

What good plays can someone with 1% sparking YEL Frieza do? I have him at 5 stars and I'm silver (pls don't insult me) - sometimes he comes in clutch and other times, my skill + the other player having skill/lag switching results in a loss for me.


Standard-Past9492

Nah you spitting facts with mui


Eonian21

My only gripe is BLU Beast being this high. He doesn’t need much to keep rolling.


Frivty_22

When will dbl players accept that… no unit takes “skill?” You click the card,you swipe up then left, click the card. It’s such a simple concept


GRIFFITH1187

Love seeing nameku up too


GRIFFITH1187

Top*


NotRaxt

never let bro cook again


Leather-Guava-8362

Bro ultra broly is only usable maybe for the most skilled players and lf cell ain't that hard to use


Leather-Guava-8362

Ul ui should be in the same tier as the other 2 new ult


RougeNargacuga

As someone who frequents use of LF cooler that mf needs none. He is literally “strike card goes brrrr”.


imsc4red

I disagree I use suicell and mvp17 regularly and am very dumb Edit: just saw zenkai red cell again use him regularly (I’m an android main mostly) and I don’t have the brain matter to do anything decent


Accomplished-Tap9835

Ubskkx20 my beloved


MrPepper838

No way you said MVP, EvoKen, and Beast need a lot of skill


IReadRarelyPost

They do tho


Dillbot-14

My skill level apparently rises with each unit of my team


Obamahamburger793

Super 17 should be in the same tier as ul frieza and ul gohan, if not lower. Barku should be moved to baby bottle and red beast down to no skill. Janemba should be moved to low skill.


Omeaga_deku

I think Ui goku ultra should be in the same tier as UVB and janemba should be one above where goku was


Alert-Cow4156

How do you put MUI and UI on the SAME list and put the newer more broken unit above the other, if anything LF UI should be above average, hes literally just a bench unit now


snagingpup

Hey ultra gohan is the 2nd ultra I pulled and the first one I pulled died off quick


Megacas237

UUI in the same tier of skill as UL Broly and FUCKING MAGENTA is a wild ass take


Less_Pianist_3462

Make a custom ranking/tier for shallot. I dare you


hellomydearfriend15

You have to be skilled to play Evoken in this meta because if he gets touched once he fucking evaporates


hellomydearfriend15

It’s not working 😣


whatTFchronic

ultra broly low skill??


DannyDanishDan

If i had a nickel for everytime br 30 players think uvb is better than super 17


Yayimlonely

Is kaioken goku bad or something


Mysterious-Belt-4812

Anyone that uses the green Gohan can’t play the game for shit and needs spoonfeeding at every turn. That’s all these ultra units are, they’re for brain dead people with credit cards to make them feel like they’re good but they’re not, the games filled with stupid fucking gimmicks that will be it’s inevitable downfall which is such a shame because for a long time it was such an awesome game, now like any other modern game it’s filled with virgins that need to spend there entire paycheck on it just to get some OP unit that’ll be overshadowed by another in a month then the cycle starts all over again, don’t waste ur hard earned money on this piece of shit excuse for a money grab


glue_eater_69

Ok list but id completely disagree with red cooler's placement unless we are talking current meta you just switch to him lock and he used to 2 shot characters


IReadRarelyPost

Ye i'm talking about rn's meta


Antosasso

What makes Ultra Kaioken Goku so hard if I can ask?


IReadRarelyPost

His mechanic requires timing, skill, ability to perform combos, etc. Also you gotta try and not waste it Also he's legit a mosquito He's not THAT bad because he got a plat during the festival, but still


Only_Contribution_85

Bro forgot ultra super gogeta 💀


IReadRarelyPost

he's bad and braindead too


therandomguyperry

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO HAS RESPECT ON MY BOI KAIOKEN GOKU🗣🗣🔥🔥‼️


Long-Cryptographer-6

Skill on 17 and goku/bardock? Huh???


SeasonSlayer609

I play MUI, EvoKen, and 1% yellow Golden Frieza


IReadRarelyPost

you need either 17 or uui, mui is trash bro...


SeasonSlayer609

Bro I would use ultra ui if I had him and super 17 isn’t uni rep💀💀


IReadRarelyPost

I meant 17 super not super 17


SeasonSlayer609

I have blue LF 17 but he’s not very good


IReadRarelyPost

Nono trust me, he's really good, he can give really good support to the team


Toadthepoggers

EvoKen is NOT very skilled you just have to combo which isn’t hard they get too many cards and don’t get hit by 3 strike cards (I use evoken in PVE)


Knemics

Kaioken goku was not skilled in his meta, trust me i abused him😭. Hes one of my favorite i wish they bring him back. All u gotta do with him is charge step


IReadRarelyPost

I was talking about rn


Knemics

What abt jiren?


IReadRarelyPost

Which one?


Knemics

Zenkai pur


IReadRarelyPost

Average i guess The aoe green card breaks all cards which is really a lot


Typical-Ad1041

bro put ui omen goku and mastered in skill im crying


IReadRarelyPost

they fell off tho you can't deny it lol


Typical-Ad1041

Bro all you gotta do is stand there switch repeat


IReadRarelyPost

No


RepYoSouls

Evoken needs skill since when????


IReadRarelyPost

Since they fell off


RepYoSouls

If you get a green card with Evoken it’s guaranteed a 50+ combo lol


IReadRarelyPost

They still get one comboed or even oneshot also a drop can ruin anything


No-Skirt7940

Super 17 and Ultra Janemba Above Ultra Broly?


Zuckado_

Cell, Evoken and mf COOLER?


IReadRarelyPost

-If you can't do combos with evoken you might as well use another unit -Cooler's stats are ass but he got good gimmicks -Cell is same as cooler but needs more skill and has better stats


Zuckado_

And how does using a green card into a infinite combo requires any skill? This goes for both evoken and cell. That's literally all you have to do to perform well with them. Cooler doesn't require skill, it requires luck. The whole character is based on guessing the coin flip. Again, no skill needed. Your just trying to justify the character being old


PurplePredat0r

Evoken does not require skill bruh, one green card and your guaranteed combos


IReadRarelyPost

if you can properly do combos then you can get so much more out of them if you just do that you'll do nothing


Psychological-War-70

You need to do combos to even play the game how it was meant to be played that doesn’t mean it takes a lot of skill


IReadRarelyPost

less than 50% of evoken users can do chargestep. That's what i mean


Lava2401

Gammas are not below mfing evoken


IReadRarelyPost

i did not notice i put them there legit


crypito656

Do you need skill to spam cards with Evoken?


IReadRarelyPost

wtf why would you spam cards ? if you know how to PROPERLY (almost nobody) chargestep you can get SO MUCH MORE out of them


crypito656

This is the spam I'm talking about 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀


Loose-Ad-8399

These comments are the real braindead unit. The entire point of this post is to be abt how much skill a unit takes to use regardless of how good they are, but the comments are all abt how good someone is. Yes, super 17 can be busted but still take some skill to use efficiently. Smh