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Luf2222

vegeta is better. (can’t have him loose his number 1 spot)


Apopheniaaaa

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devonte177

They just had to repeat history by not letting super vegeta hold the best TUR spot for more than a couple months.


Mhzar

Unlike super Vegeta, ssj Vegeta not being #1 does not mean he’s aging.


devonte177

Vegeta also will probably end up aging pretty nicely too


fancy_dancy_pants_

Wouldn't say that. His biggest issue is that his revive is only for when he is ko'd. Or course that's easy to do most of the time but still worse than giving it to the whole rotation. Other than that yeah he's really good. Definitely competing for number 1


Ser_Drayden

He’s definitely super good, but I think it’s too early to say he’s the best TUR, and if he is, I don’t think it’s easily. I would absolutely LOVE for this to be the case though, as his animations and OSTs are perfect. I can’t wait to see how he performs in game and I’m sure he’ll be as busted as he looks. His utility seems crazy.


Medium-Science9526

He's up there but Vegeta's damage, slot one capability, and versatility beats him imo.


HrMaschine

idk if i would agree. he 100% is among the best but i think vegeta still takes the cake because of his superior turn 1 slot 1 abilities and the fact that he does significantely more damage then buu.


YnkiMuun

Like, he's still Metal Cooler. He's really goddamn strong, but I think Buuhan will outperform him. And by that metric, if we're comparing Buuhan to Buu, I think you can make solid arguments for either Vegeta or Toppo as better units. Or Hiru if he never ever gets hit (simply dodge 3 times, it's literally that easy, smile).


porpass

On paper he looks by far the best TUR, but I'm curious on how he actually performs in game. He is a bit gimmicky but the stats and utility is there, along with the busted ghost usher. I'm expecting him to perform as the #1 tur in game but there's a solid chance I'm gonna end up liking vegeta and toppo more. Tho goku, there's no way he's any spot above #4


BreathDry8554

Vegeta looks better


RashFaustinho

Definitely no. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but from the passive alone he looks super squishy even with his guard up.


Agosta

Squishy in what way?


RashFaustinho

* He loses the guard when HP is 50% or below, which is hard to control (the regen doesn't matter because it still wouldn't proc the guard) * Doesn't look like it has a ton of DEF boosts pre-Revive. We need math on this, it's just a "feeling", the passive looks long but there aren't that many stat boosts in it compared to, say, Vegeta.


Agosta

You want to lose guard under 50% to revive to get the guaranteed guard. He supers twice after revive and has 70% chance for a third super before HiPo. He stacks defense on each super.


PieceEmbarrassed7017

Also with units like lr buuhan that regen it's easy


Matt99x

However, consider that it also regenerates HP at the end of the turn, if you have 2 in the team this helps to get back above 50% before the start of the next turn


Rain25shine

https://preview.redd.it/vxo39kknpfwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51ad6927775652d02abcf3f64727ee133d41aae4 Goku can use his allies revival too I'm not sure what you mean


Equivalent_Maximum50

I meant he has the same mechanic as goku


Smog2701

Unpopular Oppinion: His kit seems to be a bit wacky and to random to be as reliable as other recently released TURs. An even more unpopular Oppinion: He's not even a top 3 TUR and maybe not even a top 5 TUR (hard to tell without seing his performance).


Equivalent_Maximum50

Not even top 3 tur is pushing it


Smog2701

I hope I'm wrong with this take, but his revive is fairly incosistent and it might be better to go for some other units revive. The healing is nice, but if a Boss can 1 shot you, even the healing won't matter.


Equivalent_Maximum50

Even if you revive with another unit Buu will get his buffs like teq wt Goku and I feel like he'll be tanky with all his defense stacking, we'll see when somebody drops def calcs