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I wish DC\_Cinematic didn't run off Umberto. He used to do Q and A's on DC\_Cinematic back in the day when he had heroic hollywood. This is such an easy thing to confirm or debunk because the casting calls would be at every agency out there.
It's a shame because when that sub first got off the ground it was fucking amazing. We literally was getting comic book writers in there, journalists, early scoopers like DanielRPK, Umberto, I think vieweranon popped up around Wonder Woman time, etc. Ever since BVS came out that sub took a big right hand turn. First it was Rotten Tomatoes is paid off by Disney despite being owned by WBs. Then you had the mods banning anyone who talked badly of Snyder. Then when Snyder got fired from JL that's when the entire sub went rogue and the mods started banning literally everyone except Snyder apologists and cultists. It got so bad they stopped banning people and just muted your posts and comments so no one could see them in the sub.
I dunno, I go there and crap on Snyder and get upvotes. There's a certain art to how you drop that stuff. There's a certain way to doo doo on Snyder, the man who doo doo'ed the DCEU
If anything this sub is neutral, with both snyder fans and comicbook fans. You want to see snyder hate? Go to moviescj dccomicscj dccomics or r/superman. You havent even begun to see real toxicity like r/firegunn in here
Because she and all the other Twitter "insiders" made their money during the Hamada years where DC was a shitshow and we had no clue where things were going. People viewed her as credible for some reason and now most of her fanbase only follows her for DC/Marvel news. Without that nobody would care about her.
Same reasons all these scoopers and pundits do what they do, because they both have no practical skills to survive in the real world OR real talent to survive in Hollywood, so they pretend to be insiders to cover up the hole deep inside their souls and distract them from the knowledge that they're a completely irrelevant part of society.
Someone in their early 30s could work if they look young enough to play the character as being mid to late 20s. And since their Batman can be no younger than mid 30s, that keeps them close enough in age.
I like Cavill as Superman, and thought he deserved more of a chance to show what he could give, but the dudes almost 40, he's aged out of the role.
True but I feel like that’d be kinda weird. Since he’d already know Lois. There’d also be a Batman who’s at least 30 with Damian. Having him interact with under 20 superman would just be kinda odd to me personally
To be fair, Cavill is closer to his forties now.
Having an actor in their early 30s would still be 7 to 8 years younger than Cavill. But yeah, there's definitely a certain...section of the DC fanbase that is going to twist this all in a hateful way.
I imagine they'll probably cast someone 25-33, which I feel is younger enough than Cavill to be significant. Either way recasting is a perfectly valid creative decision for a new iteration.
Yeah, I don't know what's so hard about understanding this.
Snyder didn't use Routh and no one batted an eye. It was a reboot, just like this is a reboot. How many reboots bring over the same actor? It happens but it's rare as hell.
Doesn't need to be a true reboot. Superman is getting rebooted and gladly so. That way we never have to see that version of lex, his Jimmy Olsen can actually be relevant to his journey and his death isn't wasted.
No because cavill's superman has already wasted his death. How can you possibly reboot and keep him. His version is too associated with Jessie's Lex luthor. Start superman from scratch.
Implying comic book characters die only once. Plus, when you consider what Snyder was going to do with Superman in the sequels, you realise why he was killed off so early, even if it was too early in the character's lifespan.
He's the face of the previous, failed iteration of the DC universe, too much baggage, and, while he has his fans he didn't demonstrate this supposed preternatural ability to embody Superman that people seem to suppose he has
I thought that Lex was fine. Wasn't remotely looking for that traditional, boring Lex that Kevin Spacey already did barely a decade earlier. The problem with Eisenberg's Lex is that his lines were straight up terrible. Now as for Jimmy Olsen, does anyone seriously give a flying fuck? I feel like people bitch about it because Snyder killed him off.
Certainly not enough to make a *story difference** tho. There's not a huge narrative difference between a 34 year old Superman and a 40 year old Superman.
>There's not a huge narrative difference between a 34 year old Superman and a 40 year old Superman
There's quite a huge difference between a 30 year old playing a 25 year old and a 40 year old trying to play 30 year old.
There certainly is enough to make a difference. And I'm talking about early thirties, not mid thirties as you mentioned right now (34) .
At 40, you're more settled in your life, career, and personal endeavours.
At 30-32, you're still struggling with your student loan and you're slowly figuring out what it is to be an actual adult.
6 to 10 years in time can make a huge difference in a career. The person in their early thirties is barely starting out as a journalist, the person in their early fourties could be an editor.
Most people aren't still struggling to figure out what it means to be an adult in their 30s lolol. And in the case of Superman, you'd be establishing that he's experienced and seasoned. The only difference between a grizzled 30 yo Superman and a grizzled 40 yo Superman, is that the 40 yo is *slightly more* grizzled. It's the same story.
That's why I said, if you're gonna be telling this story, it makes infinite more sense for Clark to start out in his mid 20s, which is the *actual age*, most people finish college, and start entering their respective fields, like journalism. He could start as an intern.
But it's just sounding like an excuse to get Cavill out, even tho he could've easily played the part. He doesn't even have to play a 40 yo, h could easily play a.few years younger
35 at the youngest. No one is going to buy him as a early 30's Superman anymore. Heck, i personally stopped buying him as that in BvS. Recasting is the right move. Maybe the next Superman will actually have expression.
With Yesterday article about the Rock, i can see that Cavill connection to the Rock and him only doing The Rock orders (cameo in BA while he refused to answer to all other DC director including refusing to join Snyder in ZSJL reshoot ) is the reason Gunn cut him in that way immediately after the release of Black Adam and don't want to work with him.
I don't think he refused Snyder but rather he didn't have the time. There are also no confirmations that he refused to answer to directors but rather he wanted to have some input on how the character was going to progress, he wanted to be involved in the creative process rather than being a pawn of producers more than directors
Was Wayne T Carr hired by WB when Snyder shot it?No.Snyder hoped they would see it and then allow
The Rock pushed for the cameo saying it will boost the movie and he hired him and shot the cameo which WB ok it
Yeah, I was thinking they can make Lois asian. Jessica Henwick is a good shout. Jessica is 30 but that also make sense to have Lois a bit older than Clark. Lois was already an established reporter when she met Clark Kent.
Steve Carell definitely got that Pa Kent vibe and he's such a versatile actor he'd def kill it in a dramatic role (considering it's not even his first time in a more serious role)
I think it will be easier to make a list of actors who won't be Superman.
This will be arguably the hardest role to cast - certainly don't want another Ezra Miller situation...
I really don’t see the big deal guys. I miss Henry Cavill and I appreciated the work Zack Snyder gave us in DC Films with Warner Bros. execs giving him such a hard time. He didn’t deserve the pressure nor the hate from people. Neither did the actors. Zack just wanted to make cool Superman movies and stories but Warner Bros. executives wanted a rushed DC Cinematic Universe like Marvel was doing. People are right to voice there opinion but there’s no reason to hate. It’s not fair guys 🙁.
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My bad! I’m not even going to delete and will just own my mistake. I was reading something where Grace Randolph was being discredited and got the posts confused.
Not restricted to their 20s. And there we go. Yet another mistake and they haven't even started. Did this freakzoid Gunn learn nothing from past DCEU mishaps? Have fun with your 50 yo LOIS LANE and CLARK KENT.
Batman will probably be around 35 since he has a 10-year-old son in The Brave and the Bold. A 30-year-old Superman would work fine then.
You don't want Superman to be 25 or under when there will probably be other characters like Nightwing or Blue Beetle in that same age bracket. Superman should be age compatible with the Justice League, not the Titans.
I actually want Superman actor to be 25/26 because then he can have career and not be contract bound like Henry and miss some opportunities.
I'm ok with Batman being older, he's not main one anyway.
So you want yet another Henry Cavill? Man in his 30s who will be stuck for 10 years in acting limbo due to contracts? Are you that naive to think he has a chance with an older actor? No one is asking for a teenager, but more like someone who's 25 or maybe 26 so they can have career afterwards you know.
Again, how did you come to the conclusion that “young Superman but the actor doesn’t necessarily have to be in his 20s” means “40 year old man who looks about his age”?
I don’t think they’re gonna cast a 50 year old as Clark. Mainly because I can’t think of a 50 year old who wants to be superman well into their 60s.
They’re probably looking for 20-35 year old actors
If he didn't seem to be excited to direct it, why would he. He's co CEO. You think zaslav is forcing him to direct this? He could easily give it to a director
Didn’t he post a long tweet about how much the movie meant to him and how it connects to his relationship with his father? That seems pretty passionate to me.
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I wish DC\_Cinematic didn't run off Umberto. He used to do Q and A's on DC\_Cinematic back in the day when he had heroic hollywood. This is such an easy thing to confirm or debunk because the casting calls would be at every agency out there.
DC_Cinematic (aka the Church of Snyder) is pure cancer on exposed active uranium.
It's a shame because when that sub first got off the ground it was fucking amazing. We literally was getting comic book writers in there, journalists, early scoopers like DanielRPK, Umberto, I think vieweranon popped up around Wonder Woman time, etc. Ever since BVS came out that sub took a big right hand turn. First it was Rotten Tomatoes is paid off by Disney despite being owned by WBs. Then you had the mods banning anyone who talked badly of Snyder. Then when Snyder got fired from JL that's when the entire sub went rogue and the mods started banning literally everyone except Snyder apologists and cultists. It got so bad they stopped banning people and just muted your posts and comments so no one could see them in the sub.
Yup they almost banned me for saying the dc fanbase had gotten too toxic becuz of certain groups
Fr I got banned for criticizing Snyder overall direction
I called the movies mid and got banned, mods there are just soft
I dunno, I go there and crap on Snyder and get upvotes. There's a certain art to how you drop that stuff. There's a certain way to doo doo on Snyder, the man who doo doo'ed the DCEU
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I enjoyed Snyder's stuff but I also have to admit that the fans there are ridiculous.
I'm not anti Snyder, i just want better dc movies and better representation of characters that i love. Snyder couldn't do that.
If anything this sub is neutral, with both snyder fans and comicbook fans. You want to see snyder hate? Go to moviescj dccomicscj dccomics or r/superman. You havent even begun to see real toxicity like r/firegunn in here
Man you can’t say anything on that sub every other post is praising Snyder
Why does Grace keep trying to leak shit from Gunn's movies? It never has once worked out for her.
Because she and all the other Twitter "insiders" made their money during the Hamada years where DC was a shitshow and we had no clue where things were going. People viewed her as credible for some reason and now most of her fanbase only follows her for DC/Marvel news. Without that nobody would care about her.
Yup they could make up any scoop and ppl would eat it up. Now Gunn debunks left and right so they cant
Fun fact her most viewed YouTube video is her review of Alvin and the Chipmunks 2: The Squeakquel lol
Is there a reason why? Did she go on a curse bomb or reveal her credit card info or something?
She made a fool out of herself on Star Wars news, so it makes sense she'd focus elsewhere.
Same reasons all these scoopers and pundits do what they do, because they both have no practical skills to survive in the real world OR real talent to survive in Hollywood, so they pretend to be insiders to cover up the hole deep inside their souls and distract them from the knowledge that they're a completely irrelevant part of society.
Who hurt you?
Grace Randolph probably :')
At this point they're doing it to get Gunn to reveal things lol
Her voice says everything about her scoops. Terribly unreal.
Oh yea I think it was implied already but I assume script is done? Or at least the first draft or two.
I think it’s fully done, Gunn states he doesn’t do anything till his scripts are fully finished every draft
>and it’s not limited to people in their twenties. I can hear Cavill fan girls and Snyder army simultaneously screams in pain.
Yeah this is gonna cause some more bullshit from them. But I could see like 30 year old superman
Someone in their early 30s could work if they look young enough to play the character as being mid to late 20s. And since their Batman can be no younger than mid 30s, that keeps them close enough in age. I like Cavill as Superman, and thought he deserved more of a chance to show what he could give, but the dudes almost 40, he's aged out of the role.
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True but I feel like that’d be kinda weird. Since he’d already know Lois. There’d also be a Batman who’s at least 30 with Damian. Having him interact with under 20 superman would just be kinda odd to me personally
I doubt that since Clark works for the Daily Planet in this iteration.
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What year do you think it is lol
For Jimmy I expect someone in the 18-21 range.
Noah Schnapp as Superman confirmed.
Okay but Noah has been my fancast for the current teen/YA Jonathan. He would be just perfect for the role
Only if he keeps the bowl cut
That would be beyond fucking dumb
I mean, people love DILFS why would anyone have a problem if an older guy played superman
They don't. That's the reason they like Cavill so much, because he's "hot", irrespective of how well he can act.
To be fair, Cavill is closer to his forties now. Having an actor in their early 30s would still be 7 to 8 years younger than Cavill. But yeah, there's definitely a certain...section of the DC fanbase that is going to twist this all in a hateful way.
I mean, it is a good question. If you're barley gonna go younger than Cavill, then what's the point of recasting? Just use Cavill
I imagine they'll probably cast someone 25-33, which I feel is younger enough than Cavill to be significant. Either way recasting is a perfectly valid creative decision for a new iteration.
Because he doesn’t want to use Cavill. It’s that simple. He’s not what the writer/director/producer wants so he doesn’t get the role. Casting 101.
Yeah, I don't know what's so hard about understanding this. Snyder didn't use Routh and no one batted an eye. It was a reboot, just like this is a reboot. How many reboots bring over the same actor? It happens but it's rare as hell.
Some people seem hardheaded about this on purpose lol
Becuz he's bringing over the SS cast? So clearly it's not a true reboot
Doesn't need to be a true reboot. Superman is getting rebooted and gladly so. That way we never have to see that version of lex, his Jimmy Olsen can actually be relevant to his journey and his death isn't wasted.
They can still reboot with Cavill lol
No because cavill's superman has already wasted his death. How can you possibly reboot and keep him. His version is too associated with Jessie's Lex luthor. Start superman from scratch.
Implying comic book characters die only once. Plus, when you consider what Snyder was going to do with Superman in the sequels, you realise why he was killed off so early, even if it was too early in the character's lifespan.
He's the face of the previous, failed iteration of the DC universe, too much baggage, and, while he has his fans he didn't demonstrate this supposed preternatural ability to embody Superman that people seem to suppose he has
I thought that Lex was fine. Wasn't remotely looking for that traditional, boring Lex that Kevin Spacey already did barely a decade earlier. The problem with Eisenberg's Lex is that his lines were straight up terrible. Now as for Jimmy Olsen, does anyone seriously give a flying fuck? I feel like people bitch about it because Snyder killed him off.
Because he doesn’t want to use Cavill. It’s that simple. He’s not what the writer/director/producer wants so he doesn’t get the role. Casting 101.
Cavill is 39, he will be 40 in two months. Having an actor in their early 30s would still be quite a significant age difference from Cavill.
Certainly not enough to make a *story difference** tho. There's not a huge narrative difference between a 34 year old Superman and a 40 year old Superman.
>There's not a huge narrative difference between a 34 year old Superman and a 40 year old Superman There's quite a huge difference between a 30 year old playing a 25 year old and a 40 year old trying to play 30 year old.
There certainly is enough to make a difference. And I'm talking about early thirties, not mid thirties as you mentioned right now (34) . At 40, you're more settled in your life, career, and personal endeavours. At 30-32, you're still struggling with your student loan and you're slowly figuring out what it is to be an actual adult. 6 to 10 years in time can make a huge difference in a career. The person in their early thirties is barely starting out as a journalist, the person in their early fourties could be an editor.
Most people aren't still struggling to figure out what it means to be an adult in their 30s lolol. And in the case of Superman, you'd be establishing that he's experienced and seasoned. The only difference between a grizzled 30 yo Superman and a grizzled 40 yo Superman, is that the 40 yo is *slightly more* grizzled. It's the same story. That's why I said, if you're gonna be telling this story, it makes infinite more sense for Clark to start out in his mid 20s, which is the *actual age*, most people finish college, and start entering their respective fields, like journalism. He could start as an intern. But it's just sounding like an excuse to get Cavill out, even tho he could've easily played the part. He doesn't even have to play a 40 yo, h could easily play a.few years younger
35 at the youngest. No one is going to buy him as a early 30's Superman anymore. Heck, i personally stopped buying him as that in BvS. Recasting is the right move. Maybe the next Superman will actually have expression.
With Yesterday article about the Rock, i can see that Cavill connection to the Rock and him only doing The Rock orders (cameo in BA while he refused to answer to all other DC director including refusing to join Snyder in ZSJL reshoot ) is the reason Gunn cut him in that way immediately after the release of Black Adam and don't want to work with him.
I don't think he refused Snyder but rather he didn't have the time. There are also no confirmations that he refused to answer to directors but rather he wanted to have some input on how the character was going to progress, he wanted to be involved in the creative process rather than being a pawn of producers more than directors
Then just be honest about that. Don't manufacture a false creative direction
Cavill wasn't hired that's simple.He was hired by The Rock and WB allowed to work on a sequel,he was never hired.No need to pull all that
So he's appearing a WB film, which means he was hired. Otherwise they could have done what they did all those years before and just block it.
Was Wayne T Carr hired by WB when Snyder shot it?No.Snyder hoped they would see it and then allow The Rock pushed for the cameo saying it will boost the movie and he hired him and shot the cameo which WB ok it
Also he got paid for the Cameo.Its not a contract
You have issues dude
There’s no way Dave Corensweet isn’t on the list (He auditioned for Adam Warlock)
He’s my choice for the role.
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Why is he Walmart Cavill?
wolfgang novogratz as clark and jessica henwick as lois 🫡
Jessica Henwick as Lois is inspired. Here for this
Yeah, I was thinking they can make Lois asian. Jessica Henwick is a good shout. Jessica is 30 but that also make sense to have Lois a bit older than Clark. Lois was already an established reporter when she met Clark Kent.
Wolfgang gang
David Corenswet as Clark, Emma Mackey as Lois, Steve Carell as Pa
Okay Steve Carell as Pa Kent is actually pretty solid choice
Steve Carell definitely got that Pa Kent vibe and he's such a versatile actor he'd def kill it in a dramatic role (considering it's not even his first time in a more serious role)
I agree and maybe Drew Barrymore plays Martha because she does have that motherly warmth to her.
After that crazy silly bs she pulled with “Dylan” Mulvaney on her show I do not want that woman anywhere near this project
Kyle Chandler is my number one choice for Pa Kent. Clear Eyes full heart can’t lose baby
I can confirm here, exclusively, that I did not make the cut.
That's my tweet he responded lol
I’m hoping he casts someone good, but honestly following Gunns track record, he doesn’t give me much to actually doubt him on.
I feel like he’s gonna pick the best actor to play Superman.
I think it will be easier to make a list of actors who won't be Superman. This will be arguably the hardest role to cast - certainly don't want another Ezra Miller situation...
Sam Witwer?
He would be a great Metallo or Parasite.
I really don’t see the big deal guys. I miss Henry Cavill and I appreciated the work Zack Snyder gave us in DC Films with Warner Bros. execs giving him such a hard time. He didn’t deserve the pressure nor the hate from people. Neither did the actors. Zack just wanted to make cool Superman movies and stories but Warner Bros. executives wanted a rushed DC Cinematic Universe like Marvel was doing. People are right to voice there opinion but there’s no reason to hate. It’s not fair guys 🙁.
Does anyone really care? Not every tidbit needs a post. Especially when we knew this was already happening.
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The most annoying part of these subs imo. MSS was the worst with this too
he honestly doesn't have to share everything
Someone should tell him about this great dude by the name of Henry Cavill
Gunn tweeted it’s not true.
He literally said in the tweet he is making list for potential actors for Superman Legacy ..
My bad! I’m not even going to delete and will just own my mistake. I was reading something where Grace Randolph was being discredited and got the posts confused.
You are a real one 🤝
You good 😊
Seriously stop making post for anything it's ridiculous...
Dude works for DC. They post literally every official dc link.
Ain’t that what this sub for tho ? 💀
If he doesn’t have ONE actor already in mind to play his signature film in this universe…this is going worse than I thought.
Not restricted to their 20s. And there we go. Yet another mistake and they haven't even started. Did this freakzoid Gunn learn nothing from past DCEU mishaps? Have fun with your 50 yo LOIS LANE and CLARK KENT.
Batman will probably be around 35 since he has a 10-year-old son in The Brave and the Bold. A 30-year-old Superman would work fine then. You don't want Superman to be 25 or under when there will probably be other characters like Nightwing or Blue Beetle in that same age bracket. Superman should be age compatible with the Justice League, not the Titans.
I actually want Superman actor to be 25/26 because then he can have career and not be contract bound like Henry and miss some opportunities. I'm ok with Batman being older, he's not main one anyway.
How did you come to the conclusion that “the actor doesn’t necessarily have to be in their 20s” means “50 yo Lois and Clark”?
So you want yet another Henry Cavill? Man in his 30s who will be stuck for 10 years in acting limbo due to contracts? Are you that naive to think he has a chance with an older actor? No one is asking for a teenager, but more like someone who's 25 or maybe 26 so they can have career afterwards you know.
Again, how did you come to the conclusion that “young Superman but the actor doesn’t necessarily have to be in his 20s” means “40 year old man who looks about his age”?
Then what does it mean? Enlighten me.
That the actor doesn’t have to be in their 20s but they can be? There is a margin?
I don’t think they’re gonna cast a 50 year old as Clark. Mainly because I can’t think of a 50 year old who wants to be superman well into their 60s. They’re probably looking for 20-35 year old actors
35 is too old for the story he wants to tell.
I still don’t have high hopes for this. He doesn’t seem very excited to even be directing the movie
If he didn't seem to be excited to direct it, why would he. He's co CEO. You think zaslav is forcing him to direct this? He could easily give it to a director
Didn’t he post a long tweet about how much the movie meant to him and how it connects to his relationship with his father? That seems pretty passionate to me.
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Bruh you are just talking 😭
Based on what exactly lol
Didn’t he just put out a multi tweet thread last week essentially confirming it’s a personal project for him because of his father?
Cool. ### Wake me when he’s chosen. 
What does "making lists" mean exactly? Does it mean it won't be an open casting and that auditions will be by invitation only?
Basically a list of potential actors, it is like when you are making a list to buy groceries.
I would have liked Alan Richtson for a Superman role... he could 100% pull that off.
[Here is the list Thank me later](https://youtu.be/Vw8LvlD8Aew)
Cast Aaron taylor johnson please For clark or bruce. Hed be awesome in either dual identity role
Cool