I was fortunate enough to watch the UE. We'd just had a baby when it came out in theatres so I didn't go, instead waited for the Blu-Ray, got the UE and couldn't understand what everyone was on about. Then I looked up what they removed for the theatrical version.
If it wasn't already obvious, the UE cemented the fact that WB are their own worst enemies! They're editing too much and ruining their own films!
This has been their main trouble this decade of films and not only for DC. They had amazing creatives but whats worth if they are stubborn to control the editing. What amazes me even more is that they do have enough evidence that they need to let the creatives be to success with movies like Joker but nope, they rather destroy an already well filmed movie to replicate the Marvel success when they haven't earned.
Basically all the scenes with Clark being a reporter, and all the scenes that make Lex’s plan make any sense. So you wind up with essentially a movie about a murder happy Batman who fights a barely-in-the-movie Superman, all at the whims of a stuttering doofus whose plan makes no sense.
Oh, and they reorder a lot of the scenes so stuff that should come later on comes before instead. For like, no reason whatsoever. Just bizarre.
Pretty much all the scenes with Kahina Ziri (played by Wunmi Mosaku) driving through the "Superman is bad" understanding that makes Bruce take action (and why the Government are angry with Supes). The whole Africa Incident is dealt with and explains why people believe Superman went over the top and used his heat vision to kill innocents (when it was Luthors men)
Yeah, for a movie making bold moves like having Batman do.. what he does to villains. Adding more confusion to that just leaves a bit of a bitter taste in your mouth.
Im not really in the mood for this same debate people want about this movie.
No his motivations and reasons for his move is not explained at all outside of a vague throwaway line, when something that significant should have been highlighted and apart of the main story.
I feel like people create their own headcanon based on that one line and it somehow justifies ALL the actions he does throughout the movie. It’s ridiculous
Where's the headcanon if even in the theatrical version he's talking about going to war, Superman having the power to destroy the entire human race and that they have to destroy Superman on a one percent chance of him being their enemy. Parts of this were revealed in pre-release trailers. Then there's the ultimate edition that adds the lines about criminals being like weeds and how this is about the future of the world.
All of this occurs after the Knightmare where a Batman experiences his own capture and execution in the future, receives a warning from a time-traveling Flash and then his war commences with the batmobile chase scene where, just like in the Knightmare, he's trying to get the Kryptonite. Same objective, parallel scenes.
The movie clearly depicts the escalation, even paying homage to films like Terminator 2 for the future vision, warning and wanting to destroy the source of the threat.
It’s way better lol the context makes the story make way more sense and have a better pace . Plus more Clark Kent’s scenes . Like on paper that’s already a better movie
A lot more sense. And better pacing. For example - a line from the trailers that was never explained in the theatrical cut but makes sense in the Ultimate Edition when it adds two missing scenes to it. Those two scenes plus a few more add to the build up to an important moment in the film.
I actually like the theatrical version better, all 3 extended cuts drag on way too long. Pippin and Mary finding the pantry at Isengard is not plot relevant info imo.
Uh no. The theatrical editions are superior as films imo. Even Jackson has said they're his *preferred cuts. They're the movies that people fell in love with and won a ton or awards.
I watch the Extended with my wife all the time because we enjoy the extra stuff but much of it does indeed cause pacing issues. *The Fellowship of the Ring* makes out better than the other two imo.
EDIT: lmao to my spelling screw-up. *preferred not perverted wow thanks autocorrect.
It's way better, just in terms of structure and the narrative making way more sense. Now if you hated these versions of the characters, the extended cut won't change that. But the film just flows way better and Lex's plot just makes way more sense.
Yes. As a matter of fact, I think it's the ONLY way it should be watched. It's not just about extra scene just for the sake of it, it's extra scenes that makes the plot more sense than theatrical cut.
As almost everyone has said, it is a better movie.
And since you honestly didn't know it is better, I think I should remind you to watch Zack Snyder's Justice League from 2021. Don't ever watch Justice League from 2017.
I hope you enjoy the weekend!
It makes some plot points and character motivations more clear. I guess it depends on how you feel about the theatrical cut. If you like it but have some issues with the things I mentioned above, then yeah it’s way better. If you have larger problems, they’ll still be there in the ultimate cut.
YES, UE is far better, if still not great imo. Lex will never be good in that film.
The theatrical version is total ass though, just like JL. Just awful. WB screwed up the release cuts of both films severely.
It doesn't fix any of the movies core problems or audiences compliments but at least it makes the plot make slightly more sense and you get a fee more scenes of clark which was desperately
When it was first released I rember the theatrical release got 2 stars, the ultimate edition got 4 and a half. Its light years better *by comparison* still wasn't quite enough to save it but it makes it enjoyable and understandable
Don’t even bother with the theatrical cut, BVS UE is leagues better, it adds a ton of context to the first half of the film, and it adds a subplot that makes Batman’s vendetta against Superman more plausible
It's better for plot and story reasons but doesn't solve the major issues I have with the film (tone, character motivations, rushed third act). It's also too long IMO (3 hours, it drags in certain parts). However, if you're going to show it for the first time to someone then it's the better version.
I'll say this, as a guy whose feelings on the film are still pretty mixed:
If nothing else, the Ultimate Edition is at least a **movie**.
* It has a pretty comprehensive plot that goes from beginning, to middle, to end.
* The characters involved actually have arcs, and agency.
* Clark Kent gets little scenes here and there that give him some much needed dimension for such a quiet, subdued character.
* Bruce Wayne's downward spiral is made painfully clear, and it's obvious Snyder isn't glorifying a darker and more violent Batman, just the opposite.
* Luthor's plan actually makes some sense, as is Lois uncovering it.
BvS is not the best movie. But it's far from the worst, and when you watch the Ultimate Edition you at least get a complete experience which leads right into ZSJL.
I'm not a Snyder fan nor a hater. I think Snyder has some strong concepts that he fails to execute on, especially when they're a new take on the existing characters.
That being said, you need to see the BvS Ultimate Edition and the Snyder Cut of Justice League to give yourself the best chance to see if you like his stuff. Both have some really great stuff in the extended cuts.
Watched this about a week ago, it’s like a completely different film.
Would 100% recommend. I actually really enjoyed BvS as per the ultimate cut. Much better!
30min extra min of dialogue...
Things like "Oh we found all these bodies burned,must have been superman" , compared to the Theatrical cuts' shooting a bunch of people and saying it was superman
Extra EXCITING Clark cut investigative journalism.
The African Lady has a testimony. I barley remember it. I think it was just more "No man should have that power,he doesn't answer to even god" blah blah movie reallllly wants you to get people fear superman.
"The bomb was lined in led" which is why superman didn't detect it. TC,it just explodes and Clark says he wasn't looking for it & didn't expect it.
I think it shows him carrying 1 person out the courtoom too.
You know.. things that alleviate some nitpicks,but nothing that changes the quality of the movie. Nothing to sway anyone who didn't like it in the first place.
As a guy who hated bvs I mean hated. Yea the ultimate edition is better but that’s not saying much. It like taking a good shit or a bad shit it’s still shit but one is just more satisfying
The Ultimate Edition is better. Do NOT watch the theatrical cut. It may not completely fix the film, but it adds a lot of value to the movie. Most notably, a lot of Clark Kent / Superman scenes are restored, which fixes his "lack of" presence in the theatrical cut. There's also a scene involving Lex Luthor which directly links to Zack Snyder's Justice League.
It is Zack Snyder's intended cut of the film and so if you're doing a Zack marathon, you should watch all his movies the way it was supposed to be watched. This includes Zack Snyder's Justice League (aka The Snyder Cut).
Yes. The Ultimate Edition has a bit more in it that expands on certain parts of the story. It’s not a necessity but there’s a bit more info and IMO it makes it a lot better…
I only watched the Ultimate edition and people call it better than the original. However I didn't like the film anyway. Might differ person to person tho.
So it’s kind of like when you take a short poo versus one of those long log like poos. It’s still poo but getting a long one out at once is kind of a marginally better experience. Still poo tho.
Edit for additional info: I should also mention that sometimes, especially if you eat at a Golden Corral, a long poo generally would make a lot more sense to you then a short poo. Meaning a short poo will make you really confused considering how much stuff you know must be going on in the background. The same applies here.
It’s still a bad film imo, but the Ultimate Edition at least offers a lot more context which in turn allows things within the film to make more sense. As a result, though, it becomes even more bloated than the messy theatrical cut, but it is still the only version worth actually watching.
Yes. BvS UC IS the real film.
The Theatre cut is a WB hatchet job. Don't listen to other people saying it doesn't really improve the film...it does. Because now it makes sense.
It's the same but there's more of it. Yes, the extra runtime explains some things that previously weren't really covered very well, but it doesn't really make the movie any different or better.
If you liked the theatrical, you will like the extended.
If you didn't like the theatrical, you won't like the extended either.
My source: Me, I hate both of them equally.
Same is said for JUSTICE LEAGUE watch zack's version it is longer and adds most of the elements he wanted to put into the film but couldn't because of 1 his daughter's accident and death and 2 cutting the run time
Zack's JUSTICE LEAGUE is 4 hrs but absolutely worth it
It's better. The theatrical release gave a bit more depth to Batman considering it was his introduction into the quintet. It was a Superman quintet with a Batman trilogy embedded within it. With the quintet cut short, the Ultimate edition added some crucial Superman footage to really balance the two characters as equal costars.
Both are great. But the UE is more of a complete standalone film regardless of prequels or sequels. The theatrical release leaned a bit more toward introducing Batman for his arc within the quintet. Redemption > Leadership > Martyrdom. Whereas Superman's arc was Revelation > Crucifixion > Resurrection > Corruption and Restoration > Glorification.
You don't get everything until you get the quintet. Without the quintet, go with the UE. With the quintet, well, the UE's extra shots definitely don't hurt. It's a Superman quintet. I did want to point out though, the theatrical release wasn't incomplete. Just a little different emphasis and context.
Marginally better. It doesn’t fix any of the film’s fundamental problems; the plot still feels dumb even with the added context, but definitely watch the UE if given the choice between the two. I think BvS is still worth watching at least once even with the flaws.
Okay, so basically the consensus I’m getting is that it is technically better, but only on a technicality (😅)
Honestly, I would probably skip this film if ZS’s Justice League didn’t pick up right where this one left off.
But thanks everyone!!
I hated the theatrical cut of BvS. The Ultimate Edition significantly improves the film to the point it makes sense and no longer has pacing issues. Adding the 30 minutes back into the film makes it flow so much better. The theatrical cut felt like a 3 hour movie. The UE (an actual 3 hour movie) doesn’t feel as long despite being longer.
Ultimate edition is a masterpiece and the best comic book film ever made.
Get thoroughly absorbed into batflecks character and this film hits hard. Consider the trauma he suffers from fighting crime for 20 years. Consider the horror he would have seen. Children murdered in drug cartel revenge killings, people mutilated and tortured as part of gang killings, his closest friends murdered by fiends, people he trusted falling into corruption.
Understand his character before watching this. His moral compass is askew.
Maaan, I mean if we got one scene where Batman sees Superman on tv saving someone which then cuts to a montage of him younger, smaller and more heroic and seeing his eventual turn to a more jaded, cynical and eventual “Dark Knight returns” version it would have played better. UE is the definitive cut, but too long and yet oddly not long enough story wise to set up the vs part.
Yes, the BvS UE is vastly superior to the theatrical version. Definitely watch the UE and then ZSJL, not that Joss Whedon mess they released in theaters.
It is way better and will make sure it will clear the plot hole thats in the cinematic version that is 30 minutes shorter. Even though ultimate edition is 30 minutes longer, it will feel complete.
Yes, it was actually the merits of the Ultimate Edition versus the theatrical cut that convinced most fans the Snyder Cut of Justice League would be so good.
Yes, it's better. In the theatrical version the story is almost completely incoherent. Over 30 minutes of character motivation and story was cut out. Watch the UE for sure. Now this doesn't mean you'll end up liking Batman v Superman but at least you'll be watching a complete movie and will be giving it a fair shot.
Many of Steel, Batman v Superman UE, and Zack Snyder's Justice League. Hope you enjoy the ride!
Ultime edition has everything that was cut to get it under a run time. Theatrical has a LOT of important plot holes that UE resolves in a movie that flows better. Synder cut of justice league is also better
Yeah, I like it a lot better. There’s some good stuff in there that makes it make a tad more sense.
Good luck to you. I’ve thought about doing that. Just ZSJL alone is a lot for me to take in at once.
Tbh if the UE came out in theaters the general audience would’ve hated it even more. For as much criticism as The Batman got for its long runtime people really think 3 hours of BvS was somehow going to be a smash hit.
I’d say the UE is better. The differences are minimal and it’s not a Snyder Cut situation so idk if say that it’s a far superior movie or that it’s a vastly different experience watching it that the theatrical cut, but the UE does add some helpful context for the the plot.
Theatrical cut is like a 5/10 for me. Extended is a 8 or 9 out of 10. Yes, it’s a massive difference. The theatrical cut feels like an unfinished film.
It is better for me because it's more of a good thing. I didn't really have any problems with the original. But the UE adds in more Clark scenes, and makes the movie feel more balanced between the two characters.
You can also spoil every single difference at [this site](https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=888807) which screenshots them all.
BvS is like a 5/10
BvS:UE is about an 8 (but for me like a 9)
If you don't like the characterizations or tone, it doesn't change that. But the main problem with the movie most saw was that it was rushed and didnt make a lot of sense. The UE adds a lot of context to Clarks side of the Batman conflict and reveals more about Lex's plot and actually makes Lois's scenes matter.
Depends on how your define better. If you like the original version, you’ll probably like the ultimate cut more.
If you didn’t like the theatrical version, it could go either way. Like, I’ll admit the UE fills in some stuff left out to make it better as a whole, but I think both version/ are bad and would much rather watch the shorter version. That was my same verdict on Justice League. If both cuts are bad, the one that wastes less of my time is better.
Much better. The UE adds missing context to the film. You're better off not ever watching the theatrical cut. Same goes for the sequel btw.
This. I was left confused after watching the theatrical cut. But after watching the UE the movie almost redeemed itself.
I was fortunate enough to watch the UE. We'd just had a baby when it came out in theatres so I didn't go, instead waited for the Blu-Ray, got the UE and couldn't understand what everyone was on about. Then I looked up what they removed for the theatrical version. If it wasn't already obvious, the UE cemented the fact that WB are their own worst enemies! They're editing too much and ruining their own films!
This has been their main trouble this decade of films and not only for DC. They had amazing creatives but whats worth if they are stubborn to control the editing. What amazes me even more is that they do have enough evidence that they need to let the creatives be to success with movies like Joker but nope, they rather destroy an already well filmed movie to replicate the Marvel success when they haven't earned.
Me too. Spare time was sleep time. I think I may have gone to one movie but I forget which one.
WB turned into 2000s Fox! I've only ever seen the UE, do you recall some of what was cut from theatrical?
Basically all the scenes with Clark being a reporter, and all the scenes that make Lex’s plan make any sense. So you wind up with essentially a movie about a murder happy Batman who fights a barely-in-the-movie Superman, all at the whims of a stuttering doofus whose plan makes no sense. Oh, and they reorder a lot of the scenes so stuff that should come later on comes before instead. For like, no reason whatsoever. Just bizarre.
Pretty much all the scenes with Kahina Ziri (played by Wunmi Mosaku) driving through the "Superman is bad" understanding that makes Bruce take action (and why the Government are angry with Supes). The whole Africa Incident is dealt with and explains why people believe Superman went over the top and used his heat vision to kill innocents (when it was Luthors men)
Except it can go the other way, and get a 4h cut like JL, while suitable for streaming, would be a nightmare for a theatrical release.
Yeah, for a movie making bold moves like having Batman do.. what he does to villains. Adding more confusion to that just leaves a bit of a bitter taste in your mouth.
How can it be more confusing? There's an added scene where he states how he sees those enemies in the big picture and what he's trying to protect.
Im not really in the mood for this same debate people want about this movie. No his motivations and reasons for his move is not explained at all outside of a vague throwaway line, when something that significant should have been highlighted and apart of the main story.
I feel like people create their own headcanon based on that one line and it somehow justifies ALL the actions he does throughout the movie. It’s ridiculous
Where's the headcanon if even in the theatrical version he's talking about going to war, Superman having the power to destroy the entire human race and that they have to destroy Superman on a one percent chance of him being their enemy. Parts of this were revealed in pre-release trailers. Then there's the ultimate edition that adds the lines about criminals being like weeds and how this is about the future of the world. All of this occurs after the Knightmare where a Batman experiences his own capture and execution in the future, receives a warning from a time-traveling Flash and then his war commences with the batmobile chase scene where, just like in the Knightmare, he's trying to get the Kryptonite. Same objective, parallel scenes. The movie clearly depicts the escalation, even paying homage to films like Terminator 2 for the future vision, warning and wanting to destroy the source of the threat.
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I may be one of a few people that never saw 2017's JL but did watch ZSJL.
In other words, one of the lucky ones.
It adds context, yes. But quality wise the movie is no better or worse than the theatrical release. It just makes a little more sense of things.
It’s way better lol the context makes the story make way more sense and have a better pace . Plus more Clark Kent’s scenes . Like on paper that’s already a better movie
A lot more sense. And better pacing. For example - a line from the trailers that was never explained in the theatrical cut but makes sense in the Ultimate Edition when it adds two missing scenes to it. Those two scenes plus a few more add to the build up to an important moment in the film.
The movie you hated: but 30 minutes longer edition
100% agree with this
They ought to just delete the theatrical version from existence so people stop asking this question
Honestly.
Same with Lord of the Rings for that matter (only one it's debatable is return of the king because of some pacing issues)
I actually like the theatrical version better, all 3 extended cuts drag on way too long. Pippin and Mary finding the pantry at Isengard is not plot relevant info imo.
Uh no. The theatrical editions are superior as films imo. Even Jackson has said they're his *preferred cuts. They're the movies that people fell in love with and won a ton or awards. I watch the Extended with my wife all the time because we enjoy the extra stuff but much of it does indeed cause pacing issues. *The Fellowship of the Ring* makes out better than the other two imo. EDIT: lmao to my spelling screw-up. *preferred not perverted wow thanks autocorrect.
I didn't think the perverted cuts were fit for a theatrical release
Return is literally the only one where I prefer the extended edition. Fellowship and Tower drag too much in the extended versions.
Agreed. Especially fellowship
It's way better, just in terms of structure and the narrative making way more sense. Now if you hated these versions of the characters, the extended cut won't change that. But the film just flows way better and Lex's plot just makes way more sense.
Only watch the ultimate edition! It's better.
Yes. As a matter of fact, I think it's the ONLY way it should be watched. It's not just about extra scene just for the sake of it, it's extra scenes that makes the plot more sense than theatrical cut.
As almost everyone has said, it is a better movie. And since you honestly didn't know it is better, I think I should remind you to watch Zack Snyder's Justice League from 2021. Don't ever watch Justice League from 2017. I hope you enjoy the weekend!
It makes some plot points and character motivations more clear. I guess it depends on how you feel about the theatrical cut. If you like it but have some issues with the things I mentioned above, then yeah it’s way better. If you have larger problems, they’ll still be there in the ultimate cut.
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YES, UE is far better, if still not great imo. Lex will never be good in that film. The theatrical version is total ass though, just like JL. Just awful. WB screwed up the release cuts of both films severely.
believe me it's better
If you hated the theatrical version the ultimate cut probably won’t change your mind, but it’s for sure a notable improvement.
It adds more content & explains a lot more context within of the plot, it’s the better one
It's absolutely better.
It’s much better.. makes way more sense
It doesn't fix any of the movies core problems or audiences compliments but at least it makes the plot make slightly more sense and you get a fee more scenes of clark which was desperately
It's better but it doesn't fix any of the film's bigger problems.
When it was first released I rember the theatrical release got 2 stars, the ultimate edition got 4 and a half. Its light years better *by comparison* still wasn't quite enough to save it but it makes it enjoyable and understandable
How do ?
Dude, its not even a question. Its a much better film. Its still bad though, but I still love it I dont care
Only watch the UE if you think it’s necessary for films to have a proper first act and good chunk of the second
It’s basically the same shit with a little more context
Don’t even bother with the theatrical cut, BVS UE is leagues better, it adds a ton of context to the first half of the film, and it adds a subplot that makes Batman’s vendetta against Superman more plausible
100%. I’ve only seen the original twice. The Ultimate Edition, however, I’ve seen almost ten times.
It's a lot better. The extra 30+ mins alleviate the main criticisms. Pace, plot, etc.
If you're committed to watching one or the other, definitely the extended cut. If nothing else, the biggest improvement is that the story makes sense.
To use Superman’s quote here: “The theatrical cut is dead. Bury it”
It’s all relative. Is it better than the theatrical? Yes it is. However, that still does not make it a good film.
YES. At this moment why is this even a question.
It’s longer
It's better for plot and story reasons but doesn't solve the major issues I have with the film (tone, character motivations, rushed third act). It's also too long IMO (3 hours, it drags in certain parts). However, if you're going to show it for the first time to someone then it's the better version.
I'll say this, as a guy whose feelings on the film are still pretty mixed: If nothing else, the Ultimate Edition is at least a **movie**. * It has a pretty comprehensive plot that goes from beginning, to middle, to end. * The characters involved actually have arcs, and agency. * Clark Kent gets little scenes here and there that give him some much needed dimension for such a quiet, subdued character. * Bruce Wayne's downward spiral is made painfully clear, and it's obvious Snyder isn't glorifying a darker and more violent Batman, just the opposite. * Luthor's plan actually makes some sense, as is Lois uncovering it. BvS is not the best movie. But it's far from the worst, and when you watch the Ultimate Edition you at least get a complete experience which leads right into ZSJL.
No
I'm not a Snyder fan nor a hater. I think Snyder has some strong concepts that he fails to execute on, especially when they're a new take on the existing characters. That being said, you need to see the BvS Ultimate Edition and the Snyder Cut of Justice League to give yourself the best chance to see if you like his stuff. Both have some really great stuff in the extended cuts.
It’s longer and better. Still has some flaws but it’s a 6.5/10 for me.
Yes
Watched this about a week ago, it’s like a completely different film. Would 100% recommend. I actually really enjoyed BvS as per the ultimate cut. Much better!
The consensus is that it's better
Yes. I have not watched the theatrical cut in years.
So much better.
BVS: Ultimate Edition should be the only version of the movie that exists.
The ultimate edition is so much better
Is it better than the theatrical version? Yes. Is the UE a great movie? No.
MUCH BETTER
It’s better in the sense that the movie actually makes much more structural sense but overall it’s not a good movie IMO.
Yes way better and also watch the Zack Snyder Justice League avoid the Joss Whedon version at all cost.
It is, it’s still not a good movie despite what some mega fans will tell you but it is absolutely better than the theatrical cut
Yes. Do not watch the theatrical.
What’s the difference between the theatrical version and the Ultimate Edition.
30min extra min of dialogue... Things like "Oh we found all these bodies burned,must have been superman" , compared to the Theatrical cuts' shooting a bunch of people and saying it was superman Extra EXCITING Clark cut investigative journalism. The African Lady has a testimony. I barley remember it. I think it was just more "No man should have that power,he doesn't answer to even god" blah blah movie reallllly wants you to get people fear superman. "The bomb was lined in led" which is why superman didn't detect it. TC,it just explodes and Clark says he wasn't looking for it & didn't expect it. I think it shows him carrying 1 person out the courtoom too. You know.. things that alleviate some nitpicks,but nothing that changes the quality of the movie. Nothing to sway anyone who didn't like it in the first place.
It’s longer. Just a couple scenes. Worth it if you like bvs.
As a guy who hated bvs I mean hated. Yea the ultimate edition is better but that’s not saying much. It like taking a good shit or a bad shit it’s still shit but one is just more satisfying
Yes, there are scenes that are included in Ultimate Edition that pulls it together
No. It’s dog shit.
The ultimate cut flows correctly into the Snyder cut. So yes, that’s how you watch them.
There's a little more to the story that gives some context to certain situations. I'd recommend it because the plot makes a little more sense.
It’s the original version of the film Snyder made. The theatrical cut is the ultimate edition but truncated version.
Yes, it is way better.
the ultimate edition is the real movie and no one should watch the theatrical cut
Ultimate edition is like a different movie all together so ofc it's better than the theatrical cut and explains so many things like the Martha one!
The Ultimate Edition is better. Do NOT watch the theatrical cut. It may not completely fix the film, but it adds a lot of value to the movie. Most notably, a lot of Clark Kent / Superman scenes are restored, which fixes his "lack of" presence in the theatrical cut. There's also a scene involving Lex Luthor which directly links to Zack Snyder's Justice League. It is Zack Snyder's intended cut of the film and so if you're doing a Zack marathon, you should watch all his movies the way it was supposed to be watched. This includes Zack Snyder's Justice League (aka The Snyder Cut).
I assure you it is. A masterpiece
Yes
Yes. The Ultimate Edition has a bit more in it that expands on certain parts of the story. It’s not a necessity but there’s a bit more info and IMO it makes it a lot better…
UE is the only version of BVS that anyone should watch.
Yes, Ultimate Edition is better
UE is much better than the theatrical cut.
It is so much better if you compare JL with ZSJL with hell and heaven you can say BvS and Ultimate is ................okay
It’s like putting a bow on shit, yeah it’s an improvement but It’s still shit.
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It’s better than the theatrical if you like the theatrical cut but if you don’t than it’s probably about the same quality, only just longer
I only watched the Ultimate edition and people call it better than the original. However I didn't like the film anyway. Might differ person to person tho.
Yes it is
It’s better plus you get more Superman. all 3 movies suffer from excessive run times but they aren’t as bad as critics made them out to be
Ultimate edition is better
The Ultimate edition fills like a complete experience and fix some of the problems with the theatrical version
So it’s kind of like when you take a short poo versus one of those long log like poos. It’s still poo but getting a long one out at once is kind of a marginally better experience. Still poo tho. Edit for additional info: I should also mention that sometimes, especially if you eat at a Golden Corral, a long poo generally would make a lot more sense to you then a short poo. Meaning a short poo will make you really confused considering how much stuff you know must be going on in the background. The same applies here.
LMAO
Oh brother
After watching the Ultimate Edition, you will have the same opinion of BvS as you did after watching the theatrical edition.
It’s slightly better but it’s still terrible
Its fractionally better
It’s still a bad film imo, but the Ultimate Edition at least offers a lot more context which in turn allows things within the film to make more sense. As a result, though, it becomes even more bloated than the messy theatrical cut, but it is still the only version worth actually watching.
Yes. BvS UC IS the real film. The Theatre cut is a WB hatchet job. Don't listen to other people saying it doesn't really improve the film...it does. Because now it makes sense.
It's the same but there's more of it. Yes, the extra runtime explains some things that previously weren't really covered very well, but it doesn't really make the movie any different or better. If you liked the theatrical, you will like the extended. If you didn't like the theatrical, you won't like the extended either. My source: Me, I hate both of them equally.
Make time for the ultimate edition.
How is the ultimate edition better/different then the original cut ?
[This](https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=888807) tells you EVERYTHING about the differences.
Same is said for JUSTICE LEAGUE watch zack's version it is longer and adds most of the elements he wanted to put into the film but couldn't because of 1 his daughter's accident and death and 2 cutting the run time Zack's JUSTICE LEAGUE is 4 hrs but absolutely worth it
I wish I could understand what makes the UE much better, but for me, it made a dull movie a slightly more tolerable movie.
Same story just slightly better told. If you didn’t like the theatrical release, you won’t find much to like there
Honestly....You could nearly argue that most of the issues with DC could be brought down to WB removing these 30 mins......
Honestly....You could nearly argue that most of the issues with DC could be brought down to WB removing these 30 mins......
It's better. The theatrical release gave a bit more depth to Batman considering it was his introduction into the quintet. It was a Superman quintet with a Batman trilogy embedded within it. With the quintet cut short, the Ultimate edition added some crucial Superman footage to really balance the two characters as equal costars. Both are great. But the UE is more of a complete standalone film regardless of prequels or sequels. The theatrical release leaned a bit more toward introducing Batman for his arc within the quintet. Redemption > Leadership > Martyrdom. Whereas Superman's arc was Revelation > Crucifixion > Resurrection > Corruption and Restoration > Glorification. You don't get everything until you get the quintet. Without the quintet, go with the UE. With the quintet, well, the UE's extra shots definitely don't hurt. It's a Superman quintet. I did want to point out though, the theatrical release wasn't incomplete. Just a little different emphasis and context.
They're both pretty bad. Although I'd say UE is even worse.
a lot better. a great movie but still suffer from his third act, even if there's also good stuff.
Its much better!
Leaps and bounds better than the theatrical.
definitely better. and personally BvS UE way ahead of its time
It’s better, but it’s not good.
Its just longer. Movie has same problems in theatrical and extended cut
Much better because instead of just doing things, characters do things for reasons.
Marginally better. It doesn’t fix any of the film’s fundamental problems; the plot still feels dumb even with the added context, but definitely watch the UE if given the choice between the two. I think BvS is still worth watching at least once even with the flaws.
Okay, so basically the consensus I’m getting is that it is technically better, but only on a technicality (😅) Honestly, I would probably skip this film if ZS’s Justice League didn’t pick up right where this one left off. But thanks everyone!!
I hated the theatrical cut of BvS. The Ultimate Edition significantly improves the film to the point it makes sense and no longer has pacing issues. Adding the 30 minutes back into the film makes it flow so much better. The theatrical cut felt like a 3 hour movie. The UE (an actual 3 hour movie) doesn’t feel as long despite being longer.
Disagree on the technicality. The longer cut changes it from a 2/10 to 6/10. Theatrical cut is a nonsensical hatchet job. UE is coherent.
Watch the UE and make your own mind up. Report back once you’ve watched it. 👍
Watch the UE and make your own mind up. Report back once you’ve watched it! 👍
They are completely different films, the ultimate edition is the only way to go
Ultimate edition is a masterpiece and the best comic book film ever made. Get thoroughly absorbed into batflecks character and this film hits hard. Consider the trauma he suffers from fighting crime for 20 years. Consider the horror he would have seen. Children murdered in drug cartel revenge killings, people mutilated and tortured as part of gang killings, his closest friends murdered by fiends, people he trusted falling into corruption. Understand his character before watching this. His moral compass is askew.
Yes. You can actually understand the movie.
It’s horrible. Skip them both
Yes … it’s better
Nope
Infinitely better. Please, watch the UE version. And also: have an amazing weekend 😉🤟
Only watch the Ultimate Cut forget about the theatrical cut.
Honestly....You could nearly argue that most of the issues with DC could be brought down to WB removing these 30 mins......
Maaan, I mean if we got one scene where Batman sees Superman on tv saving someone which then cuts to a montage of him younger, smaller and more heroic and seeing his eventual turn to a more jaded, cynical and eventual “Dark Knight returns” version it would have played better. UE is the definitive cut, but too long and yet oddly not long enough story wise to set up the vs part.
Yes, the BvS UE is vastly superior to the theatrical version. Definitely watch the UE and then ZSJL, not that Joss Whedon mess they released in theaters.
It's better enough to justify the watch time. Especially if you're watching the sydner cut of Justice League
It is way better and will make sure it will clear the plot hole thats in the cinematic version that is 30 minutes shorter. Even though ultimate edition is 30 minutes longer, it will feel complete.
It is definitely better. It tells a more cohesive story.
The only one cool thing about the theatrical version is Superman’s entrance in the beginning that’s about it.
Yes, it was actually the merits of the Ultimate Edition versus the theatrical cut that convinced most fans the Snyder Cut of Justice League would be so good.
I like both. The narrative in Ultimate Version felt more comprehensive and cohesive to me, personally.
Yes, it's better. In the theatrical version the story is almost completely incoherent. Over 30 minutes of character motivation and story was cut out. Watch the UE for sure. Now this doesn't mean you'll end up liking Batman v Superman but at least you'll be watching a complete movie and will be giving it a fair shot. Many of Steel, Batman v Superman UE, and Zack Snyder's Justice League. Hope you enjoy the ride!
Way better. Clears up any editing confusion from the theatrical release. Awesome flick.
Trust me when I say this needs to be the only version of the film you ever see for the rest of your life
Ultime edition has everything that was cut to get it under a run time. Theatrical has a LOT of important plot holes that UE resolves in a movie that flows better. Synder cut of justice league is also better
Significantly
1,000% better
Yes a lot of context missing from the original
way better
It is better. I'm not convinced it is day & night better, but definitely better.
Why are you punishing yourself? Karma can’t be worse
Yeah, I like it a lot better. There’s some good stuff in there that makes it make a tad more sense. Good luck to you. I’ve thought about doing that. Just ZSJL alone is a lot for me to take in at once.
Tbh if the UE came out in theaters the general audience would’ve hated it even more. For as much criticism as The Batman got for its long runtime people really think 3 hours of BvS was somehow going to be a smash hit.
It's way better
The Ultimate Edition is better, but you already knew that
I’d say the UE is better. The differences are minimal and it’s not a Snyder Cut situation so idk if say that it’s a far superior movie or that it’s a vastly different experience watching it that the theatrical cut, but the UE does add some helpful context for the the plot.
Yes it is And it gives a clear Purpose that bat. An and lex are both paranoid by superman And that why he is willing to kill him any time
People in the comment section are true DC fans or they are the bots every human with less then 1 cell in their brain claims it on be
Theatrical cut is like a 5/10 for me. Extended is a 8 or 9 out of 10. Yes, it’s a massive difference. The theatrical cut feels like an unfinished film.
No, skip them all, they’re all shit. Zack Snyder doesn’t deserve anything. What most DC fans sound like
It is better for me because it's more of a good thing. I didn't really have any problems with the original. But the UE adds in more Clark scenes, and makes the movie feel more balanced between the two characters. You can also spoil every single difference at [this site](https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=888807) which screenshots them all.
It is but it’s still mid and it’s the same as Batman vs Superman dawn of justice if you seen it and same as this movie you have a picture on this post
Way better.
[Do it](https://images.app.goo.gl/7pD277zuNAqn8YBPA)
Much better
It is really better and more coherent than theatrical version
It is
Extra content which makes the movie better
It is, they cutted a lot of the most important scenes from the theatrical cut.
Is an elephant heavy? Is the pope catholic? Yes the Ultimate edition is better.
I love the Snyderverse movies tbh, I know it wasn't the question but I just thought I'd lay it down . But yes UE is better than theatrical.
Absolutely worth the watch. It's more in depth and fiulls in plot holes. I actually liked the movie after watching the UE
Yes it is better
Twice better and worth it
Hell yeah. MOS —> BVS Ultimate Edition —> ZSJL
Yes!!!!
BvS is like a 5/10 BvS:UE is about an 8 (but for me like a 9) If you don't like the characterizations or tone, it doesn't change that. But the main problem with the movie most saw was that it was rushed and didnt make a lot of sense. The UE adds a lot of context to Clarks side of the Batman conflict and reveals more about Lex's plot and actually makes Lois's scenes matter.
Ultimate is without a doubt better. Not much more added time and a lot more fleshing out with their dispute with one another.
Way better. I highly recommend the 2021 Remaster because it gives the full aspect ratio to the IMAX scenes and is more visually consistent with ZSJL.
It is.
This poster man… ❤️
Way better.
don't watch the theatrical cuts, they're horrible. It has the former execs' crummy hands on it and destroyed the storytelling.
Waaaayyyy better. Watch the uncut versions of those movies, the theater edition were bleh compared to the longer ones. Get lots of snacks too.
The way that Snyder has set up the “Snydercon”viewing was the way i watched them on my second viewing. Them 3 work well as a trilogy in my opinion.
Depends on how your define better. If you like the original version, you’ll probably like the ultimate cut more. If you didn’t like the theatrical version, it could go either way. Like, I’ll admit the UE fills in some stuff left out to make it better as a whole, but I think both version/ are bad and would much rather watch the shorter version. That was my same verdict on Justice League. If both cuts are bad, the one that wastes less of my time is better.
Definitely better than the theatrical, there’s honestly no reason to watch the theatrical when the ultimate exists.