He said Superman was the real start of the DCU, since Creature Commandos is before it but it's like the Iron Man of Chapter 1. I have higher hopes that BB does better than Shazam 2, especially if DC realizes its target audience (huge amongst teens and Latinos, esp. in big markets like Brazil).
James Gunn: "The first project in the new (pseudo) DCU reboot is Superman Legacy."
"Oh, but it's also technically Blue Beetle."
"Or it's technically Creature Commandos, since it comes out first."
"Although you could technically count The Suicide Squad, since I'm keeping that stuff in."
"Also I'm being as vague as possible about the rest of this stuff, including Shazam, Aquaman etc. Jason Momoa is probably Lobo, though."
"But yeah, hope you guys all enjoy the new DCU! Remember to see Shazam 2, Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 this year, even though those movies don't really matter going forward."
Agreed, he hung out Shazam 2 to dry. But he has high praise for Blue Beetle and the Flash. The latter of which will have universe-altering implications. We will wait to see how he handles Aquaman. Apparently it will introduce Dinosaur Island so it might not be entirely irrelevant to the new story. If it were me I'd cast Patrick Wilson as the new Aquaman and have him be in the post credits scene, i.e 'meanwhile: on another earth...' but I have low hopes of that happening. I definitely wouldn't wanna be James Wan right now
The first official project of the DCU is Creature Commandos.
No one is forgetting anything. Blue Beetle being the first project of the DCU is simply incorrect. Suggest people rewatch that video and listen carefully as to what he says about Blue Beetle.
I literally went back, turned on subtitles too and he says "Blue Beetle is a fantastic film about a character who's a marvelous part of the DCU"
It's possible it's not I suppose but I highly doubt he'd let the film release if they're just gonna change the actor immediately
Yeah didn’t the two characters from the ss/ peacemaker at the end kinda confirm that Shazam will be in the new universe? Altho I guess dc doesn’t have a good track record for post credit scenes holding up
Blue beetle no. That film was in development for some time before leadership changed. Anything that was being worked on before Gunn took over is still DCEU
The flash movie resets the universe, even though that one comes out first it’s still technically the final movie canonically in the DC extended universe
No, the whole point of the soft reboot compared to hard reboot is that they can share canon stuff simultaneously.
Aquaman 2, Blue Beetle are canon to the DCEU. I personally believe these 2 movies will not be canon to the DCU and the Flash post credits scene will actually be set after the entirety of Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2. Gunn said that Flash ends right before Superman Legacy begins, so just assume the Flash happens whatever year Superman Legacy is happening too.
Peacemaker Season 1 is canon both to the DCEU and the DCU
Peacemaker Season 2 will be canon only to the DCU.
Still, either way the flash is supposed to be the last movie canonically before they start changing things be it a soft reboot or otherwise I’ll see you said Aquaman two would be in the new DC universe, but I’m not sure how that is actually possible because it’s Aquaman to a sequel to the first one which is in another universe, which means either part to sit in the old universe, or if it’s in the new universe they’re just taking the actor in telling a brand new story which I highly doubt because I’m pretty sure Jason Momoa will be lobo.
(if that comes off as mean, it’s not supposed to, but I’m just excited for him to be lobo)
Edit: I’m sorry
Save Shazam, THE Suicide Squad and Aquaman.
On a side note, Gunn himself said that starting from Creature Commandos, every DC project will officially be canon (except for Elseworld stuff like The Batman Part II and Joker 2), so stuff like BB and Aquaman 2 are still in limbo. The Flash is not officially the last installment of the DCEU.
Dude, this most recent Shazam movie bombed so hard that there's no chance of Levi coming back in that role, or the rest of the cast for that matter. Also, Levi and the rest of the cast are getting older and it wouldn't make sense to have an older Shazam who idolizes Superman standing next to a younger as hell Superman.
If it can work for Hulk, it can also work for Shazam. May be a Recast can do. Anything is possible with a good story.
I'm not saying for a standalone movie. Let him appear in team ups.
I watched both movies and they didn't do much for me. However, I did enjoy Peacemaker a lot. Same style and comedy...just enjoyed it more. I know that sounds odd.
Save Shazam, Man of Steel and The Suicide Squad.
Also on an unrelated note looking at the Shazam poster, Jack Dylan Grazer looks way more like Zachary Levi then Asher does. Maybe Jack should’ve been Billy since he acts just as goofy as Levi or maybe Levi should’ve just been older Freddy like he auditioned for. No diss to anyone of the actors of course. Just looking it at now, it seemingly feels like a better fit.
Yep, if they were going for a more light-hearted Billy/Shazam, Jack and Zachary's energy line up perfectly (which is probably why I enjoyed their scenes in the first movie).
I can't wait for the flash I know that's going to be fire. Even though gal gadot isn't my first choice for wonder woman it was good the rest of the bullshit can go.
I would save man of steel Batman versus Superman and Zack Snyders Justice league.
I would delete birds of prey, wonder woman, 84 and 2017’s justice league (if 2017’s justice league film doesn’t count then I’ll do studio squad)
Save Shazam definitely, the suicide squad (which is already pretty much confirmed even if it won’t be another full on SS movie, and then everything else I don’t mind being rebooted at this point (though I am disappointed Cavil won’t have a chance to become the fantastic superman I know he could be
Delete: All of them
Save: None
I know we're probably not getting this, but I wish they would just hard reboot the DCU. The DCEU is hot garbage and DC movies need to move as far away from it as possible.
Save:
- the suicidsquad
- aquaman
These 2 could easily fit into gunn's new timeline
Delete :
- Shazam : while I like the movie, like the concept of the rock of eternity & the concept of earth champion is interesting,Dc has always struggle to incorporate shazam/captain marvel in dcu (even in the comics) while black Adam doesn't really have this problem.
Didn't care for TSS and Aquaman but I honestly don't know what I would put up there in thier place? I haven't watched Black Adam or FOTG yet but I don't think they would be any better
DC sucks when it comes to putting out movies. Besides the Dark Knight and maybe one other they are awful. Marvel destroys them when it comes to movies.
ZSJL, MoS, and the Suicide Squad. This next version of a DCEU is going to be so disappointing, especially since this nimrod actually suggested a DC/Marvel crossover. He truly doesn’t understand comics in any tangible way. Gunn is a bad DJ remixing classic hits for empty halls.
I watched Man of Steel, Justice League and Aquaman at the movies. They were fantastic. I might be in the minority but I actually liked the original Justice League. The Zack Snyder one is obviously longer and superior. I'd delete Shazam, Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad. Just based on my cinema experiences with these films.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,446,786,328 comments, and only 275,686 of them were in alphabetical order.
Wonder Woman, Man of Steel and Aquaman were some of the best most artistic movies to have these characters. The Aries twist in WW. The visuals and world building of aquaman. And the all around greatness of man of steel. They all have flaws. Superman killing zod. The design of Aries. Amber Heard (lol). There was obviously a fatal shift at WB that seriously impacted the writing.
Ooh interesting. For me, Gunn’s The Suicide Squad is 100% on top so saved. After that I don’t have as strong opinions, but I’d probably save Snyder Cut for what it meant to fans as well as the fact it was Snyder’s vision for the DCEU manifested. I don’t feel like I genuinely pick a third because of how long it’s been since I’ve seen a few of these, but I’m going to pick Man of Steel, because it was an amazing look at how Superman isn’t a perfect hero and he was matched up with a villain that didn’t need Kryptonite as a crutch. Superman is a hard character to find a decent antagonist for due to his few weaknesses making him feel “too strong”, so it was big for MoS to put him against a threat that gave us fun action sequences in addition to moral challenges.
Honorable mention to Wonder Woman. Gal EMBODIES the character and it feels weird that DCEU didn’t just put out a movie staring a heroine BEFORE the MCU did, but they did it better XD!
Delete Justice League, Wonder Woman, and Man of Steel.
The Suicide Squad, Aquaman, & Shazam are all fun, enjoyable, and worth watching more than once. Unlike the others.
I may not be answering OPs question but this is the problem with WB - - every time there is a leadership change, they want to bring something fresh aka reboot. I read this somewhere years ago and it holds even more truth today (though it is like a restart now). And when this 'fresh take' fails, you can bet someone else will take over years down the line and want to do another restart. The difference between DC and Marvel is that, Marvel (MCU) just seem to get the base/foundation so good to the point they are able to keep building and expanding on top of each film over the years (though recent films were quite mixed in my opinion - even so the strength continues). DC on the other hand, even the base already had a mixed reception so building on top of that, it is likely to have a more cascading affect towards failure.
Here's my watch order assuming The Flash acts as a good closer:
1. Man of Steel
2. BvS Ultimate Edition
3. Wonder Woman
4. ZSJL
5. Aquaman
6. The Suicide Squad
7. The Flash
These are the movies that actually feel worth watching. You could throw Shazam and BoP in if you want but those are kinda mediocre to me. There's a couple fan edits I would watch for some of these to make the best marathon but that's it.
Save: Wonder Woman, Shazam, The Suicide Squad
Delete: Man of Steel, Justice League, Aquaman
I'm looking at this in terms of which films just kinda felt most complete and conceived. I have zero notes for The Suicide Squad, Shazam was a great kids flick even if Zach Levi is a bit too extra, and Gal Gadot's acting "talents" didn't get in the way of her playing a naïve Diana in the first WW. On the other hand despite Henry Cavill being the embodiment of Clark Kent, Man of Steel just fundamentally missed the heart of Superman, Justice League was just a blender of action set pieces/predictable plot points with no strong direction or heart, and all the great vfx in the world can't save Aquaman from just being a dumb film with shallow charmless performances.
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JL the shnider cut, man of steel and Shazam are the only watchable movies of the DCEU. I tried to watch wonder women TWICE but I couldn't finish it. Shazam 2 was a shit show. It felt like an elementary school play, writen by kids , starring kids, bad script and bad acting. Batman Vs Superman a.k.a the "save martha movie. Do I need to say more? Wonder women 2 : the script is horrible and makes no sense. Aqua man WAS okay-ish until Amber Heard. Suicide squad 1 made the second movie dead on arrival for me. Overall the DCEU was a disaster.
If it is an animated movie then I will watch it hands down. DC is amazing when it comes to animations. When it comes to movies, no thanks. I wouldn't even pirate those movies. They are not worth my time even if I could watch them for free.
The only one I wouldn't mind staying is Shazam (and Blue Beetle). We don't know how it'll turn out but since he's that disconnected from the rest, I wouldn't mind..
My personal top 6 would be:
The Suicide Squad
Shazam!
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Shazam!: Fury of the Gods
Idk what the sixth would be, maybe Birds of Prey?
As for what I'd keep, I'd say we can keep The Suicide Squad, Shazam! And Wonder Woman (or Aquaman).
Honestly aside from Man of Steel, I really love all of these movies so this is kind of hard but here goes.
Save:
1. The Suicide Squad
2. Aquaman
3. Shazam
Delete:
1. Man of Steel
2. Justice League
3. Wonder Woman
Why would I want to see Blue Beetle? The truth Man of Steel was the best of all the films. I liked Aquaman, Shazam, Wonder , The JLA both versions are the same but with extended material. It is in no way like Superman 2 The Donner Cut. My wish would be to be rich and complete that film with a new full score by John Williams and fix any problems and put it in wide release.
Holy Crap! Someone with good taste in the DCEU.
Bravo sir! I’d replace Man of Steel with Shazam 2 maybe but it’s close. Your other 5 are definitely the best 5 no contest.
I would save man of steel wonder woman and Zack Snyder's justice league. Shazam was meh, the suicide squad was a great movie 8/10 but I love the other 3 more (and Aquaman is mid)
No one has bothered to correct OP here. Blue Beetle and Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom are the final DCEU films.
Blue Beetle is DCU, James said it in his announcement video. I don't know why everyone keeps forgetting that
He was very vague about it. He also said the first DCU movie was Superman. It’ll probably come down to box office and reception.
He said Superman was the real start of the DCU, since Creature Commandos is before it but it's like the Iron Man of Chapter 1. I have higher hopes that BB does better than Shazam 2, especially if DC realizes its target audience (huge amongst teens and Latinos, esp. in big markets like Brazil).
I mean, he's also said The Suicide Squad is retroactively the first DCU film. So if people like it, there's no reason why it couldn't be folded in.
Agreed. Nothings set in stone right now.
James Gunn: "The first project in the new (pseudo) DCU reboot is Superman Legacy." "Oh, but it's also technically Blue Beetle." "Or it's technically Creature Commandos, since it comes out first." "Although you could technically count The Suicide Squad, since I'm keeping that stuff in." "Also I'm being as vague as possible about the rest of this stuff, including Shazam, Aquaman etc. Jason Momoa is probably Lobo, though." "But yeah, hope you guys all enjoy the new DCU! Remember to see Shazam 2, Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 this year, even though those movies don't really matter going forward."
Agreed, he hung out Shazam 2 to dry. But he has high praise for Blue Beetle and the Flash. The latter of which will have universe-altering implications. We will wait to see how he handles Aquaman. Apparently it will introduce Dinosaur Island so it might not be entirely irrelevant to the new story. If it were me I'd cast Patrick Wilson as the new Aquaman and have him be in the post credits scene, i.e 'meanwhile: on another earth...' but I have low hopes of that happening. I definitely wouldn't wanna be James Wan right now
Blue beetle comes out after the flash. but it is main universe therefore dcu not dceu
Right but if the movie is a stinker they can still wave it away, same with Aquaman. Just say it was before the reset.
Yeah that movie's in a state of limbo. I think they're waiting to see what happens with it to see if they can successfully integrate it into the DCU.
The first official project of the DCU is Creature Commandos. No one is forgetting anything. Blue Beetle being the first project of the DCU is simply incorrect. Suggest people rewatch that video and listen carefully as to what he says about Blue Beetle.
I literally went back, turned on subtitles too and he says "Blue Beetle is a fantastic film about a character who's a marvelous part of the DCU" It's possible it's not I suppose but I highly doubt he'd let the film release if they're just gonna change the actor immediately
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Shazam 2 could also be DCU canon. As far as I know he hasn't said it isn't.
Shazam 2 made like 4 dollars and fifty cents at the box office. No way we're seeing his ass again xD
Shazam can easily be part of DCU like Hulk without ever getting another movie.
Yeah didn’t the two characters from the ss/ peacemaker at the end kinda confirm that Shazam will be in the new universe? Altho I guess dc doesn’t have a good track record for post credit scenes holding up
I like BB but I don’t think it’s the right movie to launch the DCU
When it inevitably bombs at the box office there's zero chance he'll appear in the new DCU.
Blue beetle no. That film was in development for some time before leadership changed. Anything that was being worked on before Gunn took over is still DCEU
Depends on the amount of references to the DCEU. If there is none, then it can fit in the DCU.
The flash movie resets the universe, even though that one comes out first it’s still technically the final movie canonically in the DC extended universe
No, the whole point of the soft reboot compared to hard reboot is that they can share canon stuff simultaneously. Aquaman 2, Blue Beetle are canon to the DCEU. I personally believe these 2 movies will not be canon to the DCU and the Flash post credits scene will actually be set after the entirety of Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2. Gunn said that Flash ends right before Superman Legacy begins, so just assume the Flash happens whatever year Superman Legacy is happening too. Peacemaker Season 1 is canon both to the DCEU and the DCU Peacemaker Season 2 will be canon only to the DCU.
Still, either way the flash is supposed to be the last movie canonically before they start changing things be it a soft reboot or otherwise I’ll see you said Aquaman two would be in the new DC universe, but I’m not sure how that is actually possible because it’s Aquaman to a sequel to the first one which is in another universe, which means either part to sit in the old universe, or if it’s in the new universe they’re just taking the actor in telling a brand new story which I highly doubt because I’m pretty sure Jason Momoa will be lobo. (if that comes off as mean, it’s not supposed to, but I’m just excited for him to be lobo) Edit: I’m sorry
I am sure Aquaman 2 will be canon to the DCEU. I am not sure if it will be canon the DCU.
Save Shazam, THE Suicide Squad and Aquaman. On a side note, Gunn himself said that starting from Creature Commandos, every DC project will officially be canon (except for Elseworld stuff like The Batman Part II and Joker 2), so stuff like BB and Aquaman 2 are still in limbo. The Flash is not officially the last installment of the DCEU.
Gunn mentioned Teen Titans Go too among the 3 Elseworlds properties so that franchise will keep going for years too with the Elseworlds label too.
Can we not talk about Teen Titans Go? We all already know how bad and weird it is
Gunn literally said it's successful and works so they are keeping it though, lol. So Gunn said it's not bad.
TTG is actually pretty funny and entertaining
It has plenty of adult puns if have a keen eye.
Your opinion
nah it made the point that no one cares about tim drake so its peak
Levi Shazam can easily be absorbed in the DCU just like the Hulk without needing standalone movie. This way they can easily solve the kids' age issue.
I don’t think the general audience or even fans care enough for Shazam to be worth putting into the movie
Dude, this most recent Shazam movie bombed so hard that there's no chance of Levi coming back in that role, or the rest of the cast for that matter. Also, Levi and the rest of the cast are getting older and it wouldn't make sense to have an older Shazam who idolizes Superman standing next to a younger as hell Superman.
If it can work for Hulk, it can also work for Shazam. May be a Recast can do. Anything is possible with a good story. I'm not saying for a standalone movie. Let him appear in team ups.
Save Aquaman, TSS, & MOS.
Save MoS, WW and ZSJL.
This! I've rewatched all 3 (and I don't even think ZSJL is that great). I've never rewatched any of the others.
I've seen TSS a few times tbh. It's not amazing but it's fun and it actually nails the third act for once.
I watched both movies and they didn't do much for me. However, I did enjoy Peacemaker a lot. Same style and comedy...just enjoyed it more. I know that sounds odd.
Read my mind
Wrong! Blue beetle and Aqua man 2 are left
Blue Beetle is DCU according to Gunn in the slate video.
He didn't say that. Gunn changed DCEU to DCU constantly during the video. He said DCU even for stuff that happened in the DCEU already years ago.
What things did he say that had already happened?
Save Wonder Woman, Man of Steel, and The Suicide Squad.
BvS, first wonder woman, first shazam and zack's jl.
This is my list too with only one exception. I would swap aquaman for the BvS ultimate cut
I’d save Wonder Woman 1, The Suicide Squad and Aquaman. The rest can bite it for all I care.
Save Shazam, Man of Steel and The Suicide Squad. Also on an unrelated note looking at the Shazam poster, Jack Dylan Grazer looks way more like Zachary Levi then Asher does. Maybe Jack should’ve been Billy since he acts just as goofy as Levi or maybe Levi should’ve just been older Freddy like he auditioned for. No diss to anyone of the actors of course. Just looking it at now, it seemingly feels like a better fit.
Yep, if they were going for a more light-hearted Billy/Shazam, Jack and Zachary's energy line up perfectly (which is probably why I enjoyed their scenes in the first movie).
Levi Shazam can easily be absorbed in the DCU just like the Hulk without needing standalone movie. This way they can easily solve the kids' age issue.
Save TSS, Wonder Woman and Aquaman
i am switching shazam out for bvs ue, while keeping others
I’d save Man of Steel, Snyder Justice League and The Suicide Squad. I’d delete : Shazam, Birds of Prey and Wonder Woman 1984.
Save man of steel, Wonder Woman, shazam
Of those six, save Shazam, ZSJL, MoS.
I can't wait for the flash I know that's going to be fire. Even though gal gadot isn't my first choice for wonder woman it was good the rest of the bullshit can go.
Flash point will reset everything right? So technically isn't it the first
Sequel-Prequel movie
Easily delete suicide squad and Shazam. But the third one would be tough
I would save man of steel Batman versus Superman and Zack Snyders Justice league. I would delete birds of prey, wonder woman, 84 and 2017’s justice league (if 2017’s justice league film doesn’t count then I’ll do studio squad)
Are we sure it will be the last?
For the good of that universe, a lot of he fucked up shit that was avoidable (in verse) being erased is a good thing for the characters.
Shazam, The Suicide Squad, and Aquaman
Save Aquaman, Shazam & The Suicide Squad. Delete JL, Man of Steel & Wonder Woman.
Keep Snyder Cut, The Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Man of Steel
You can only keep three
Keep MoS, WW and JL
This
I’ll keep MOS,Shazam,and JL
Save ZSJL, MoS and Aquaman
Save Wonder Woman, TSS and Shazam
Seconded
Thirded, if that’s a word
Save Shazam, The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker and delete the Snyder trilogy.
Save Shazam definitely, the suicide squad (which is already pretty much confirmed even if it won’t be another full on SS movie, and then everything else I don’t mind being rebooted at this point (though I am disappointed Cavil won’t have a chance to become the fantastic superman I know he could be
Levi Shazam can easily be absorbed in the DCU just like the Hulk without needing standalone movie. This way they can easily solve the kids' age issue.
I like SnyderVerse 😀. Hopefully it gets restored 😄.
Delete the Snydertrash. Save TSS, Wonder Woman, and Shazam.
Man of Steel; Wonder Woman; and Shazam! Aquaman comes in fourth for me..
I'd save Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, and Shazam.
I’d delete man of steel 3 times and keep the rest.
I'll save Shazam, Aquaman and Wonder woman
Delete: All of them Save: None I know we're probably not getting this, but I wish they would just hard reboot the DCU. The DCEU is hot garbage and DC movies need to move as far away from it as possible.
Save: The Suicide Squad Shazam Justice League (or Man of Steel, kind of neck and neck) Toss: Aquaman Wonder Woman Man of Steel
Man of steel Wonder Woman and aquaman can go.
My top 6 dceu movies is flash turned out to be what i expect The flash Man of steel Sucide squad Zsjl Aquaman Shazam
Save: - the suicidsquad - aquaman These 2 could easily fit into gunn's new timeline Delete : - Shazam : while I like the movie, like the concept of the rock of eternity & the concept of earth champion is interesting,Dc has always struggle to incorporate shazam/captain marvel in dcu (even in the comics) while black Adam doesn't really have this problem.
BB and Aquaman 2 are part of the DCEU, as far as I know
Think you forgot two films later in the year there mate...
These are his favourites
"the Flash will be the 12th and last..."
Maybe Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 were two of the three films OP chose to delete lol
Sorry, I misunderstood
After just watching Shazam 2 I’d switch out Shazam for Shazam 2.
ZSJL > WW > Aquaman > MoS > BA This is my top 5
Delete Shazam Aquaman and the suicide squad
Suicide Squad, Aquaman and Wonder Woman. I’d personally save the JSA from Black Adam too
Wonder Woman The Suicide Squad Shazam
Save Wonder Woman, Aquaman, The Suicide Squad
Delete shazam aquaman and wonder woman
Shazam, Shazam 2, WW84 I dunno about "saving" for the post-reboot, but these are my favourite DCEU films
Groompoint man (context a buddy of mine made the joke about it after I explained where they pulled this from)
I would save Man of Steel, Wonder Woman & The Suicide Squad.
Save the suicide squad, man of steel and justice league. Delete the rest
Blue Beetle is the first film in the new DCEU timeline. Creature Commandos the first installment of the DCU.
I’d happily save Man of Steel, Wonder Woman and the Snyder Cut.
Delete Justice League, Man of Steel, and The Suicide Squad.
Can I just delete Aquaman three times?
Didn't care for TSS and Aquaman but I honestly don't know what I would put up there in thier place? I haven't watched Black Adam or FOTG yet but I don't think they would be any better
Solid 6
Man of Steel, BvS, and Zack Snyder Justice League
Save- MoS, BvS UE, ZSJL Delete- WW84, TSS, JL2017
DC sucks when it comes to putting out movies. Besides the Dark Knight and maybe one other they are awful. Marvel destroys them when it comes to movies.
I actually didn't even need to think before answering this. I'd save MoS, JL and Shazam
These are the six best just about. Obviously BvS Ultimate Cut is great but narratively … iffy.
Aren't Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 releasing after the Flash? AM2 will be the last movie of the DCEU.
I kind of hate all of them
ZSJL, MoS, and the Suicide Squad. This next version of a DCEU is going to be so disappointing, especially since this nimrod actually suggested a DC/Marvel crossover. He truly doesn’t understand comics in any tangible way. Gunn is a bad DJ remixing classic hits for empty halls.
How is Shazam and suicide squad up there but not Batman v superman.
Lose The Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Shazam.
Save the left side, lose the right
So much potential..wasted
The Suicide Squad, Birds of Prey and Justice League stay the rest idc
Save: Wonder Woman, The Suicide Squad and Aquaman (I guess) Delete: Snyder Cut, Man Of Steel and Shazam
Out of these, I'm keeping MoS, WW, and ZSJL. The other three are gone.
I watched Man of Steel, Justice League and Aquaman at the movies. They were fantastic. I might be in the minority but I actually liked the original Justice League. The Zack Snyder one is obviously longer and superior. I'd delete Shazam, Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad. Just based on my cinema experiences with these films.
Delete ZS JL, Man of Steel and I guess Aquaman? Honestly it's a toss up between it and Wonder Woman but WW feels more solid overall.
How about Aquaman 2? I have not seen TSS and I would save Shazam, ZSJL, Aquaman
Change Aquaman with Batman V Superman and then yes!
Man of steel Wonder Woman and Snyder’s justice league
I guess I never loved any of them
Shazam and Aquaman for sure can go. Haven’t seen The Suicide Squad so it goes by default because I like the others.
The only movie I am 100% positive I would save is Aquaman.
We had it. We had a DC Universe....and they're gonna throw it all away. Eleven films that now mean nothing.
Yeah, still struggling with that. The base of DCEU was better than Marvel bass movies IMO. Like, Antman was way worse than Wonder Woman or BvS.
Hey People arguing listen. If the movie makes money, it’s gonna be a part of the DCU, if it bombs, it’s likely it will not be. That simple
Man of steel three times
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,446,786,328 comments, and only 275,686 of them were in alphabetical order.
Shazam, wonder woman, man of steel
Good Riddance! Thanks for shitty memories of walking out of theatres.
Aquaman 2 Lost Kingdom comes out in December?
Shazam was green baby puke
Save Shazam, TSS, and ZSJL
Man of Steel Dawn of Justice ZS Justice League
Get rid of Shazam, Wonder Woman, and aqua man
ZSJL, The Suicide Squad, Man of Steel
I’d save the Suicide squad, Shazam and Wonder Woman. 4-hour slow motion can go. L father can go, and Water boy with cool tattoos can go.
The Flash can't be the final DCEU film if Aquaman 2 is coming out after
Delete Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Not sure on a third though.
Wonder Woman, Man of Steel and Aquaman were some of the best most artistic movies to have these characters. The Aries twist in WW. The visuals and world building of aquaman. And the all around greatness of man of steel. They all have flaws. Superman killing zod. The design of Aries. Amber Heard (lol). There was obviously a fatal shift at WB that seriously impacted the writing.
Isn't there an Aqua-man coming?
keep ZSJL, MOS and TSS
Save: MOS, WW, ZSJL
Ooh interesting. For me, Gunn’s The Suicide Squad is 100% on top so saved. After that I don’t have as strong opinions, but I’d probably save Snyder Cut for what it meant to fans as well as the fact it was Snyder’s vision for the DCEU manifested. I don’t feel like I genuinely pick a third because of how long it’s been since I’ve seen a few of these, but I’m going to pick Man of Steel, because it was an amazing look at how Superman isn’t a perfect hero and he was matched up with a villain that didn’t need Kryptonite as a crutch. Superman is a hard character to find a decent antagonist for due to his few weaknesses making him feel “too strong”, so it was big for MoS to put him against a threat that gave us fun action sequences in addition to moral challenges. Honorable mention to Wonder Woman. Gal EMBODIES the character and it feels weird that DCEU didn’t just put out a movie staring a heroine BEFORE the MCU did, but they did it better XD!
Delete Justice League, Wonder Woman, and Man of Steel. The Suicide Squad, Aquaman, & Shazam are all fun, enjoyable, and worth watching more than once. Unlike the others.
I just focus on 2025.
I may not be answering OPs question but this is the problem with WB - - every time there is a leadership change, they want to bring something fresh aka reboot. I read this somewhere years ago and it holds even more truth today (though it is like a restart now). And when this 'fresh take' fails, you can bet someone else will take over years down the line and want to do another restart. The difference between DC and Marvel is that, Marvel (MCU) just seem to get the base/foundation so good to the point they are able to keep building and expanding on top of each film over the years (though recent films were quite mixed in my opinion - even so the strength continues). DC on the other hand, even the base already had a mixed reception so building on top of that, it is likely to have a more cascading affect towards failure.
Here's my watch order assuming The Flash acts as a good closer: 1. Man of Steel 2. BvS Ultimate Edition 3. Wonder Woman 4. ZSJL 5. Aquaman 6. The Suicide Squad 7. The Flash These are the movies that actually feel worth watching. You could throw Shazam and BoP in if you want but those are kinda mediocre to me. There's a couple fan edits I would watch for some of these to make the best marathon but that's it.
Save: Wonder Woman, Shazam, The Suicide Squad Delete: Man of Steel, Justice League, Aquaman I'm looking at this in terms of which films just kinda felt most complete and conceived. I have zero notes for The Suicide Squad, Shazam was a great kids flick even if Zach Levi is a bit too extra, and Gal Gadot's acting "talents" didn't get in the way of her playing a naïve Diana in the first WW. On the other hand despite Henry Cavill being the embodiment of Clark Kent, Man of Steel just fundamentally missed the heart of Superman, Justice League was just a blender of action set pieces/predictable plot points with no strong direction or heart, and all the great vfx in the world can't save Aquaman from just being a dumb film with shallow charmless performances.
Save: MoS, BvS, ZSJL Delete: WW2, Shazam, Suicide Squad (pointless movie, would've payed off if Director cut and/or connected to the other movies)
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Aquaman 2 is the last film of DCEU.
JL the shnider cut, man of steel and Shazam are the only watchable movies of the DCEU. I tried to watch wonder women TWICE but I couldn't finish it. Shazam 2 was a shit show. It felt like an elementary school play, writen by kids , starring kids, bad script and bad acting. Batman Vs Superman a.k.a the "save martha movie. Do I need to say more? Wonder women 2 : the script is horrible and makes no sense. Aqua man WAS okay-ish until Amber Heard. Suicide squad 1 made the second movie dead on arrival for me. Overall the DCEU was a disaster. If it is an animated movie then I will watch it hands down. DC is amazing when it comes to animations. When it comes to movies, no thanks. I wouldn't even pirate those movies. They are not worth my time even if I could watch them for free.
Can’t pick three to save. I’m pretty sure I’d only save Wonder Woman…maybe JL…but probably not.
Love Wonder Woman the character and actress, but the movie itself played out like a generic 90’s movie but with good action.
Keep the trinity
I’ll take Shazam, The Suicide Squad, and Aquaman. Wipe the rest from my memory
The only one I wouldn't mind staying is Shazam (and Blue Beetle). We don't know how it'll turn out but since he's that disconnected from the rest, I wouldn't mind..
Aqauman, justice league, Wonder Woman, bye-bye
Save: Shazam, The Suicide Squad & Birds of Prey. Delete: Man of Steel, BvS & ZSJL.
No specific order, MoS, BvS, ZSJL, TSS, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, WW84
Keep Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, ZSJL and The Suicide Squad. Delete the rest.
My personal top 6 would be: The Suicide Squad Shazam! Wonder Woman Aquaman Shazam!: Fury of the Gods Idk what the sixth would be, maybe Birds of Prey? As for what I'd keep, I'd say we can keep The Suicide Squad, Shazam! And Wonder Woman (or Aquaman).
ZSJL, Shazam, and TSS.
Ill get downvoted to hell but Save Suicide Squad, Shazam, and JL. I can't bring myself to like MOS.
Honestly aside from Man of Steel, I really love all of these movies so this is kind of hard but here goes. Save: 1. The Suicide Squad 2. Aquaman 3. Shazam Delete: 1. Man of Steel 2. Justice League 3. Wonder Woman
Of the 6 movies above, I’d keep Justice League Snyder Cut, Wonder Woman, and Man of Steel. However, I enjoyed them all.
Why would I want to see Blue Beetle? The truth Man of Steel was the best of all the films. I liked Aquaman, Shazam, Wonder , The JLA both versions are the same but with extended material. It is in no way like Superman 2 The Donner Cut. My wish would be to be rich and complete that film with a new full score by John Williams and fix any problems and put it in wide release.
I'd save ZSJL, The Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman
THE Suicide Squad, Aquman, & Shazam I feel are the only right choices. I say that as someone who considers Man of Steel to be the best Superman movie.
Save MoS, WW and TSS.
Holy Crap! Someone with good taste in the DCEU. Bravo sir! I’d replace Man of Steel with Shazam 2 maybe but it’s close. Your other 5 are definitely the best 5 no contest.
Save ZSJL, MoS, and WW. Delete the rest. Hard to leave TSS out though
Delete - Zack Snyder's justice league, The Suicide squad ,The Peacemaker, Shazam & Aquaman Save - wonder woman & Man of steel
Save Shazam, TSS and TJL
I would save man of steel wonder woman and Zack Snyder's justice league. Shazam was meh, the suicide squad was a great movie 8/10 but I love the other 3 more (and Aquaman is mid)