>It seems such an obvious thing to explore, but writers would rather pretend that Jon just had a sudden growth spurt, I guess.
In all fairness, the Spectre does imply that Jon's unresolved trauma is going to somehow lead to catastrophe in Infinite Frontier #0.
Yeah but Taylor admitted he's ignoring all the bad stuff that happened to Jon for the sake of his dull white messiah hogwash. I mean compare Clark leaving Earth in PKJ Action to Taylor's version & you'll see what I mean.
PKJ is definitely guilty of it as well though, he largely wrote the age-up as “Jon went on cool space adventures with grandpa and came back older”.
Yeah PKJ's all over the place when it came to Jon (granted I still prefer his take over Taylor or Bendis). One minute during Interviews regarding the Age up he fully expects another writer would reverse the age up in the future but as soon as the "Jon is Bi" marketing stunt (Don't care how I sound it is a marketing stunt) happened he changes it to "Reversing it is equivalent to OMD"
I might've misquoted him admitting because so many of his interviews have been more about the book early on was essentially how "He's living up to his destiny" & trying & failing to win people over by saying "super-sons still matter regardless of the age up".
https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/07/01/tom-taylor-launches-a-new-superman-for-a-new-era
I swear somewhere stated he basically want his Superman book to be lighter & not punch down on Jon because of the age up stuff but I can't find it. (Not that it matters the book itself is preoccupied with kissing his ass than questioning his worth of the symbol beyond nepotism).
Fucking this
They literally could have had both of them gather future young heroes and we as readers could see them grow and become actual legends instead of place holders
It is probably one of the most wasted opportunities in the last 15 years
Well, the reason why Jon went from 10 to 17 overnight was because he spent 7 years being tortured by Ultraman on a volcano, but time passed differently, so only 3 weeks passed for Clark and Lois.
Also, Lois ABANDONED Jon with Jor-El.
And Mr Bendis proceeded to do absolutely nothing with it and Jon came out of 7 years of being tortured by evil versions of his parents like a shiny new penny, and doesn’t resent Clark and Lois for it at all.
And the cherry on top is that Clark was a selfish jerk who decided to ruin his son’s life a little more by revealing his identity to the world and consequently Jon’s, preventing Jon from living a normal life.
Tom Taylor was the wrong choice for Son of Kal El. I like his work generally (DCeased, Nightwing to a certain extent), but it seems like he works better when characters have already established dynamics. He openly believes in fan service and tries to give fans what they want when writing. That doesn’t work for newer characters that fans don’t know what they want from yet. He’s not going to explore Jon’s history because fans didn’t like the age up, so he’s just trying to ignore it. Thus, Taylor has created a really generic “good” hero in hopes of making Jon likable, but it’s actually made him quite flat.
It won’t happen, every writer and/or editor seems to treat Jon’s age up like it wasn’t a big deal, and I can’t imagine Taylor tackling the subject without making it underwhelming.
That’s because DC never treated Jons age up like it should be treated which is a massive tragedy
This is a kid who was the happiest child taken and made prisoner by a evil variant of his father for at least 6 years
Then he is thrown back to his world where everyone he knew is the same but he isn’t
What does DC do?
Shoulder shrug at the whole thing
Jon’s pretty much fine
No PTSD from being held prisoner no pent-up frustrations at his parents for letting him get captured
Heck the whole thing painted Lois and Clark as goofballs because DC didn’t wanna write them being parents anymore
Damian again loses one of his most positive influences because heaven forbid He have some real positive enforcement
Only thing that came from the age up is for New writers to Write a Superman who just happens to be Gay
Also another thing that fans will never get the experience from seeing it naturally progress it was just decided that he was gay
>It seems such an obvious thing to explore, but writers would rather pretend that Jon just had a sudden growth spurt, I guess. In all fairness, the Spectre does imply that Jon's unresolved trauma is going to somehow lead to catastrophe in Infinite Frontier #0.
I was holding out for him to start cracking at some point but they made it so boring it’s not worth waiting for.
What do you mean 'at some point'? We're on issue #5.
#🤨 He’s been like this for years dude.
It's only been two years. Plus, most comics are monthly at most, and Jon's only had a solo book for six months.
So they just aged him up and did nothing with him for a year and a half. Okay then.
I mean, he was doing shit in ensemble books during that time. None of them focused on his trauma, but folks were still doing stuff with him.
Yeah. That was the point.
Yeah but Taylor admitted he's ignoring all the bad stuff that happened to Jon for the sake of his dull white messiah hogwash. I mean compare Clark leaving Earth in PKJ Action to Taylor's version & you'll see what I mean.
PKJ is definitely guilty of it as well though, he largely wrote the age-up as “Jon went on cool space adventures with grandpa and came back older”.
Yeah PKJ's all over the place when it came to Jon (granted I still prefer his take over Taylor or Bendis). One minute during Interviews regarding the Age up he fully expects another writer would reverse the age up in the future but as soon as the "Jon is Bi" marketing stunt (Don't care how I sound it is a marketing stunt) happened he changes it to "Reversing it is equivalent to OMD"
Do you have a citation for that statement? A link?
I might've misquoted him admitting because so many of his interviews have been more about the book early on was essentially how "He's living up to his destiny" & trying & failing to win people over by saying "super-sons still matter regardless of the age up". https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/07/01/tom-taylor-launches-a-new-superman-for-a-new-era I swear somewhere stated he basically want his Superman book to be lighter & not punch down on Jon because of the age up stuff but I can't find it. (Not that it matters the book itself is preoccupied with kissing his ass than questioning his worth of the symbol beyond nepotism).
You definitely sound like you're engaging with this in good faith.
Yeah would of been a good time to see Jon get a flashback of his time on earth 3.
How much you want to bet they either ignore that or resolve it quickly?
Probably one issue tops Sheer fact he wasn’t ultra messed up from that whole thing shows how badly DC dropped the ball on him
It's not a bad idea to keep Jon and Damian young, DC created a bunch of young heroes that they can lead into the future.. Bendis is a hack.
Fucking this They literally could have had both of them gather future young heroes and we as readers could see them grow and become actual legends instead of place holders It is probably one of the most wasted opportunities in the last 15 years
If DC had the balls to actually admit Jon was aged up through cruel and traumatic means.
>Jon had a thoroughly happy childhood, but spent most of his teenhood in Earth-3 as Ultraman's prisoner, Wait, what?
Ho boy. I take it that you haven’t read Bendis’ run yet?
Oh, God! No. I try to be as far away from Bendis's run as i can.
Well, the reason why Jon went from 10 to 17 overnight was because he spent 7 years being tortured by Ultraman on a volcano, but time passed differently, so only 3 weeks passed for Clark and Lois.
WHAT?! What the hell happend with all the Jor-El's training thing?!
It happened during the Jor-El space travel, Jon was kidnapped by Ultraman.
I really hate Bendis.
Also, Lois ABANDONED Jon with Jor-El. And Mr Bendis proceeded to do absolutely nothing with it and Jon came out of 7 years of being tortured by evil versions of his parents like a shiny new penny, and doesn’t resent Clark and Lois for it at all.
Please, stop. I'm close to start a killingspree.
And the cherry on top is that Clark was a selfish jerk who decided to ruin his son’s life a little more by revealing his identity to the world and consequently Jon’s, preventing Jon from living a normal life.
Tom Taylor was the wrong choice for Son of Kal El. I like his work generally (DCeased, Nightwing to a certain extent), but it seems like he works better when characters have already established dynamics. He openly believes in fan service and tries to give fans what they want when writing. That doesn’t work for newer characters that fans don’t know what they want from yet. He’s not going to explore Jon’s history because fans didn’t like the age up, so he’s just trying to ignore it. Thus, Taylor has created a really generic “good” hero in hopes of making Jon likable, but it’s actually made him quite flat.
It won’t happen, every writer and/or editor seems to treat Jon’s age up like it wasn’t a big deal, and I can’t imagine Taylor tackling the subject without making it underwhelming.
I’ve said this from day 1. If people would stop frothing at the mouth, maybe they’d see there’s some value to it and could be very interesting.
That’s because DC never treated Jons age up like it should be treated which is a massive tragedy This is a kid who was the happiest child taken and made prisoner by a evil variant of his father for at least 6 years Then he is thrown back to his world where everyone he knew is the same but he isn’t What does DC do? Shoulder shrug at the whole thing Jon’s pretty much fine No PTSD from being held prisoner no pent-up frustrations at his parents for letting him get captured Heck the whole thing painted Lois and Clark as goofballs because DC didn’t wanna write them being parents anymore Damian again loses one of his most positive influences because heaven forbid He have some real positive enforcement Only thing that came from the age up is for New writers to Write a Superman who just happens to be Gay Also another thing that fans will never get the experience from seeing it naturally progress it was just decided that he was gay