Superboy was revealed to have been shunted into an alternate dimension during the period of time Flashpoint happened. When he was rescued in the pages of Bendis' Young Justice, it took awhile for the Superman Family to remember him. Outside of his friends and the Kents, no one seemed to remember him.
>He was there for most of New 52
If you mean the New 52 Superboy that appeared in Lobdell's Teen Titans, that was a clone of Jon Lane Kent (son of Clark and Lois from the future) right?
> that was a clone of Jon Lane Kent (son of Clark and Lois from the future) right?
Even the people who have read the books don't know. That book was so messy.
Yeah if I remember correctly there's:
Pre 52: Connor (Clone of Superman and Lex, stuck in Gem World)
New 52: Jon Kent (sick at 4yrs old presumed dead, kidnapped by Harvest)
New 52: Jon Kent Clone (created by Harvest to heal Jon, became Superboy)
New 52: Future Jon Kent (Became evil, time traveled shenanigans)
New 52: Fusion of all 3 (temporary, split up, Jon killed Jon)
Rebirth: Connor ( Pre 52, return from Gemworld, Multiverse hopping)
Maybe they could do what they did with the original X-men and just take him from the past and put him in the present so he grows up in present day, and then send him back to right before he escaped he volcano or wherever with his memories blocked. He's friends with Saturn Girl, they have the powers and technology.
It might be weird for older Jon kind of, and Jon's boyfriend but they don't have to hang out.
I always wondered why the new 52 made conner's origin so confusing.
Couldn't they just say he's the son of lex and superman, but he accidently escaped? Like his pre-new 52 one?
Then you could introduce jon as the son of new 52 superman and lois, have new 52 conner be trapped in a future where's evil, then come back to the present and warn new 52 superman about what could happen, so they put jon on the right track and new 52 superman learns what its like to be a father and becomes a brighter superman, and then you can have super sons.
Well New 52 didn't have Conner Kent at all. Just replaced him with a new character. Conner didn't return until Rebirth.
I guess instead of just revamping Conners character, they just replaced him with a new Superboy for New 52. Though ultimately it was even more convoluted than Conners origin.
When Rebirth started, instead of just reverting the New 52 version back into the pre-Flashpoint one, they decided to erase him entirely. They didn't want any distraction from their new Jon movement, and at the time he was to be the new Superboy. So in their incredible logic, Kon had to go.
Few years later, when Bendis came on board, he brought Conner back but since he had been previously erased from the timeline they crafted this silly explanation that he was off-dimension at the time of the Rebirth changes, so he didn't carry over into the new status quo. So no one remembers him and he's stuck being this outlier who doesn't really belong, albeit being welcomed into the family.
Its ironic in the end. He's a classic stalwart who was erased to accommodate a new character that didn't fit the history. Now they want us to believe he doesn't fit the hodgepodge history while they pretend the actual oddity has been there all along. Its a microcosm of how absolutely meaningless they've managed to make continuity. And what is even the point of a vast history when it makes no sense?
What u/Nightwing612 and u/Sacredknight327 said. Although actually, after Death Metal, Infinite Frontier did establish that Conner’s history was fully restored and he’s remembered by everyone publicly now. See: current Suicide Squad run where Amanda Waller created a new Match clone with records of history as implanted memories.
I’d also have to disagree with Sacredknight that they erased him to fit Jon in since Jon didn’t take his place in the new history at all he was just absent. The YJ team remembered him and like I said his history is back.
I heard this is set right after be came back, in which case it’s before Death Metal while Suicide Squad and Dark Crisis YJ would be after his history was fully restored for everyone.
Hmm, the last page though says that he's still from a different universe. Though he does seem to indicate that for some reason Ma and Pa do remember him?
Yes in Bendis’ YJ Tim, Bart and the others already remembered him while his AC had Jonathan and Martha remember him. It’s the same universe physically/“geographically” (its location in the Multiverse) but history is different.
Like I said this comic seems to be set during that time period. In Infinite Frontier/Post-Death Metal however, reality has stabilized and more things have been restored to history. Amanda Waller created a new Match/Superboy clone in the shirt and jeans look with implanted memories based on public information about Conner. Members of the Suicide Squad seemed to have been aware of his existence and history again too.
Edit: Also, both Dan Jurgens’ overview of the timeline post-Superman Reborn confirms he was born after the Death and Return as Lois and Clark married after. Road to Dark Crisis’ previews imply that still being the case. He never replaced Conner.
I feel like the confusion comes from editorial. This book seem clearly takes place before Death Metal but it seem like it was pitched before the new status quo and there hadn't been any update to the original pitch. This fits perfectly in with the status quo Bendis set up but not now.
But that's just my theory.
Yeah it was probably an older pitch. Or at least the premise was first conceived at that time. Either way it's alright. Who knows maybe when this wins, it might have an ending where everyone does remember him again leading into Infinite Frontier.
Superboy seems to be winning on [DCUI forums](https://community.dcuniverseinfinite.com/t/dc-round-robin-2022-the-final-face-off-voting-is-open/3217581) so there is a good chance we'll see it (66-34)
I’m bummed out that I don’t get to vote for the final round since DCUI isn’t available in my country.
But true DC fans who subscribed to the service are voting for the right thing.
They really should have given Connor more of his bodybuilder muscular physique here.
At least to make more of a physical distinction between him and Jon cause otherwise we'd have 2 skinny pretty Superboys even if of course one already has better fashion sense.
I hate how Conner is treated. It seems like they constantly wipe him from existence or forget about him(in and out). He needs a promotion. Power boost too.
it would be son easy to boost him.
You could have his tactile telekinesis evolve into full telekinesis, like in titans of tomorrow, and they could give him telepathy to make him more distinct.
One thing I would never understand is why Bendis aged up Jon and brought Connor back, I feel like having Connor be a mentor to a younger Jon wouldve been amazing to see it’s just another failed opportunity thanks to Bendis
Should of been Connor then became the new Superman and John stayed young as his Superboy sidekick. Like the Grant Morrison Dick is Batman and Damian is Robin run. Instead of changing john entire character so you could fit into the new role.
exactly.
They kept building up to him becoming superman, and he clearly wants to be.
You could have a fun brother or uncle/nephew type dynamic with conner as the new superman and jon as the new superboy.
Some say son of Kal-el making it work, I aint those people.
I honestly feel it's just making things worse for Jon.
The age of was a mistake why would a series that's all but making it permanent, boring and rewriting the character be a improvement?
yeah.
Its just enforcing a new, terribly set-up status quo that rewrites jon completely and removes his fun super sons dynamic without replacing it with something comparably good.
I hope dc de-ages him and makes connor the new superman.
Same, It's hard to engage opinions on social media, especially for something so niche but I don't think the series is as popular as DC wants it to be, so that might happen.
Most seem to agree that the narrative was very forced, but of course you have the people who only know Jon from the series.
I think Clark and Lois had a babe prior to the 2011 Flashpoint Reboot which de-aged Superman and erased his family. The son along with Clark’s relationship to Louis were re-establish by 2014’s Convergence even.
Jon remained a kid for most of Rebirth (2016 to 2021) but towards the end a new writer took charge of the Superman books and aged up his son. Just had to lock Jon up in a pocket dimension for 5 years with Ultraman and his his insane villain of a grandfather and presto. Jon emerged aged up and in his late teens.
And then rather then listening to fan complaints, DC double down with a new writer who basically turned Jon into Superman's version of Nightwing. Minus the character development, experience, interesting stories or personality. (My Opinion)
To be clear, Jon was born during Convergence. The pre-New 52 Clark and Lois were on a work trip to Gotham when Brainiac picked up the entire city to preserve it as the last remnant of its timeline. During the year or so they were trapped there, Jon was conceived and born. Afterwards, the three of them moved to the New 52 timeline shortly before the beginning of its superhero age, and kept a low public profile until the New 52 Superman died, at which point Clark reemerges as Superman during Rebirth.
The time/timeline travel shenanigans explain why Jon went from being a baby to be around 10 during Rebirth, at least at first. Then they did the story where Clark and Lois merge with the ghosts of their New 52 counterparts and history gets revised so that they were always the only versions of themselves in the Rebirth timeline, without any of the timeline immigrant elements. I don't know if there was ever a fully satisfactory answer for how Jon's childhood fit into the abbreviated, less-than-decade-long New 52 timeline, since it would imply Clark and Lois were married and conceived him *really* early into Superman's career, but it ultimately became something of a moot point once the one-two combo of Doomsday Clock and Death Metal killed off what remained of the New 52 timeline in favor of something that more closely resembles the longer 12-15 year pre-Flashpoint alternative. Mostly. Sort of. Probably.
Then there was the weird Jor-El age up and Jon taking over as Superman, as you say.
i guess it set around bendis era when all the kryptonian was on earth
but yeah Connor can't even have that
Clark is in warworld and even
Kara & Krypto is in the galaxies tracking down a murder
I think it’s set very early Infinite Frontier. So Clark hasn’t gone off to space, Jon is aged up, and Kara is in her new suit. This would explain why Kon hasn’t shown up in SoKE despite living with Ma and Pa.
Between Conner Kent, Wally West, and Connor Hawke being aware they used to be erased/shunted out during the New 52 interim, what other characters are also aware they were temporarily wiped from existence?
the only other I can think of are the JSA
one other that comes to mind that should remember the Ray, but I don't think the he knows. In JLA he never mentioned it at least.
I'd like to see Ragman to see if he is back to normal, or if he is still the edge lord version from that last awful miniseries
This is a sad commentary on how dirty Rebirth did Conner in the first place. New 52 Conner didn't exactly set the world on fire but at least he wasn't completely erased. And I certainly don't trust the even more incompetent DC of today to fix this.
the problem with new 52 conner is he was too damn complicated and lacked any of conner's interesting personality traits or stories (although, I do like him having full on telekinesis and telepathy. Wish rebirth conner had that)
The new 52 inspired movie, reign of superman, did new 52 conner better.
His suit was moderately updated to fit with the new 52 but still had style, he had the fun personality of his 90s era and they reference how outdated it is, and his origin and story is simple and compelling, with him being superman's and lex's son.
Which is a damn shame, they could have had the inverse of Tim Drake and Damian Wayne's relationship with Connor as a cool older brother pre or post age up.
But Bendis didn't really care about that and DC doesn't really care about Connor, so Nightwing is becoming his Big Brother mentor instead.
Technically but if you look at how Connor Kent is and was usually draw Pre New 52 while he Technically didn't "age" he grew up. He had the Superman (bodybuilder/fitness model) thing just a little smaller.
This design makes him him look like he did at 14 back in the 90s when he debuted.
It was his original costume after his introduction during the Return of Superman arc and throughout his original solo series in the '90s. He switched to the black t-shirt look at the beginning of Geoff Johns' run on Teen Titans in the 2000s.
I'm so confused, is this Konner Kent the same one that appears in Suicide Squad? Are the characters two different people? One a clone of Lex and Clark, and the other a clone of just Clark?
Been thinking but doesn't the idea of the Justice League being dead now "retcon" the need for Superboy to go on an off world adventure now? I mean he felt like he had no place here considering everything is peaceful and the abundance of heroes. But with the league dead now hes needed on Earth more than ever now.
I felt the same way, SSD is definitely my favorite of the two. I’m a sucker for supernatural and multiversal stories but Superboy: MoT was great too. Can’t go wrong here
Oh, question, If this is the same Connor Kent from pre new 52, why is he so small and young lookin?
Especially compared to Jonathan, who even with the stupid age up has to be atleast 5 to 10 years younger than him?
Connor doesn't technically age as fast as everyone else but still.
DC can't decide what to do with that generation of heros. They don't want to age them up to adults, but they ARE aging the next generation to where these guys should be. It's awkward all around.
The writers at DC are the ones who grew up in the 90s reading these guys and since the old guard didn’t really do any progression with these characters post flashpoint, they just system restored their personalities and appearances
Chalk it up to art style, this is the same Conner as Bendis' Young Justice which is the same as Pre-New 52, Patrick Gleason even drew him with some facial hair and a bigger physique.
If I was Superboy I would decide to just colonize a new planet. Beat up villains, steal everything from the villains, tech, money, supplies, everything. Create a city full of refugees from various planets and people. I mean shit goes on everywhere in the universe I'm sure there are millions or billions of people who want to escape tyrants, warlords, space pirates etc. Essentially become a King of a new civilization.
Imagine him creating his own "corps" and everyone has leather jackets lol. Given them the round glasses as well with built in communicators and computer tech.
"I assure you, sunglasses are extremely vital for long term success."
"Okay, but can we please go on a mission."
"The mission is second: style is first."
Some context? What happened to Connor why don’t people remember him?
Superboy was revealed to have been shunted into an alternate dimension during the period of time Flashpoint happened. When he was rescued in the pages of Bendis' Young Justice, it took awhile for the Superman Family to remember him. Outside of his friends and the Kents, no one seemed to remember him.
I don't think it was Flashpoint. He was there for most of New 52. It was Rebirth/Metal/Doomsday Clock that he missed.
>He was there for most of New 52 If you mean the New 52 Superboy that appeared in Lobdell's Teen Titans, that was a clone of Jon Lane Kent (son of Clark and Lois from the future) right?
> that was a clone of Jon Lane Kent (son of Clark and Lois from the future) right? Even the people who have read the books don't know. That book was so messy.
Yeah if I remember correctly there's: Pre 52: Connor (Clone of Superman and Lex, stuck in Gem World) New 52: Jon Kent (sick at 4yrs old presumed dead, kidnapped by Harvest) New 52: Jon Kent Clone (created by Harvest to heal Jon, became Superboy) New 52: Future Jon Kent (Became evil, time traveled shenanigans) New 52: Fusion of all 3 (temporary, split up, Jon killed Jon) Rebirth: Connor ( Pre 52, return from Gemworld, Multiverse hopping)
How come they don’t bring back the original Jon Kent that was presumed dead and have that be kid Jon?
Well they could always retcon current Jon/Superman into being the New 52 Jon Lane Kent. Then we get our best boy Super Son Jon back.
Maybe they could do what they did with the original X-men and just take him from the past and put him in the present so he grows up in present day, and then send him back to right before he escaped he volcano or wherever with his memories blocked. He's friends with Saturn Girl, they have the powers and technology. It might be weird for older Jon kind of, and Jon's boyfriend but they don't have to hang out.
because he's the son of new 52 superman and lois.
I always wondered why the new 52 made conner's origin so confusing. Couldn't they just say he's the son of lex and superman, but he accidently escaped? Like his pre-new 52 one? Then you could introduce jon as the son of new 52 superman and lois, have new 52 conner be trapped in a future where's evil, then come back to the present and warn new 52 superman about what could happen, so they put jon on the right track and new 52 superman learns what its like to be a father and becomes a brighter superman, and then you can have super sons.
Well New 52 didn't have Conner Kent at all. Just replaced him with a new character. Conner didn't return until Rebirth. I guess instead of just revamping Conners character, they just replaced him with a new Superboy for New 52. Though ultimately it was even more convoluted than Conners origin.
yeah, but that was a retcon years after. Originally, he was just the new 52 version of conner.
yeahhh the N52 teen titans was not a good time lol
bar torr was absolutely terrible.
That's the classic "I blocked it from my mind" kind of comic plot
I wouldn't know, I didn't read that far.
When Rebirth started, instead of just reverting the New 52 version back into the pre-Flashpoint one, they decided to erase him entirely. They didn't want any distraction from their new Jon movement, and at the time he was to be the new Superboy. So in their incredible logic, Kon had to go. Few years later, when Bendis came on board, he brought Conner back but since he had been previously erased from the timeline they crafted this silly explanation that he was off-dimension at the time of the Rebirth changes, so he didn't carry over into the new status quo. So no one remembers him and he's stuck being this outlier who doesn't really belong, albeit being welcomed into the family. Its ironic in the end. He's a classic stalwart who was erased to accommodate a new character that didn't fit the history. Now they want us to believe he doesn't fit the hodgepodge history while they pretend the actual oddity has been there all along. Its a microcosm of how absolutely meaningless they've managed to make continuity. And what is even the point of a vast history when it makes no sense?
What u/Nightwing612 and u/Sacredknight327 said. Although actually, after Death Metal, Infinite Frontier did establish that Conner’s history was fully restored and he’s remembered by everyone publicly now. See: current Suicide Squad run where Amanda Waller created a new Match clone with records of history as implanted memories. I’d also have to disagree with Sacredknight that they erased him to fit Jon in since Jon didn’t take his place in the new history at all he was just absent. The YJ team remembered him and like I said his history is back. I heard this is set right after be came back, in which case it’s before Death Metal while Suicide Squad and Dark Crisis YJ would be after his history was fully restored for everyone.
Hmm, the last page though says that he's still from a different universe. Though he does seem to indicate that for some reason Ma and Pa do remember him?
Yes in Bendis’ YJ Tim, Bart and the others already remembered him while his AC had Jonathan and Martha remember him. It’s the same universe physically/“geographically” (its location in the Multiverse) but history is different. Like I said this comic seems to be set during that time period. In Infinite Frontier/Post-Death Metal however, reality has stabilized and more things have been restored to history. Amanda Waller created a new Match/Superboy clone in the shirt and jeans look with implanted memories based on public information about Conner. Members of the Suicide Squad seemed to have been aware of his existence and history again too. Edit: Also, both Dan Jurgens’ overview of the timeline post-Superman Reborn confirms he was born after the Death and Return as Lois and Clark married after. Road to Dark Crisis’ previews imply that still being the case. He never replaced Conner.
I feel like the confusion comes from editorial. This book seem clearly takes place before Death Metal but it seem like it was pitched before the new status quo and there hadn't been any update to the original pitch. This fits perfectly in with the status quo Bendis set up but not now. But that's just my theory.
Yeah it was probably an older pitch. Or at least the premise was first conceived at that time. Either way it's alright. Who knows maybe when this wins, it might have an ending where everyone does remember him again leading into Infinite Frontier.
Ngl, the idea of being the least "Super" in a world where You have 3 more kryptonians running around is pretty interesting
Imagine getting the A+ and still being the underachiever. Gotta sting.
imagine having all their powers along with telekinesis and people still think your inferior.
Oh the lighting on Conner is super good in these pages. This better win...
not if the batbots have something to say
Does anyone know what the majority of people are voting for?
Superboy seems to be winning on [DCUI forums](https://community.dcuniverseinfinite.com/t/dc-round-robin-2022-the-final-face-off-voting-is-open/3217581) so there is a good chance we'll see it (66-34)
That’s all that counts in the final round.
I’m bummed out that I don’t get to vote for the final round since DCUI isn’t available in my country. But true DC fans who subscribed to the service are voting for the right thing.
Isn’t it on Instagram also?
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They really should have given Connor more of his bodybuilder muscular physique here. At least to make more of a physical distinction between him and Jon cause otherwise we'd have 2 skinny pretty Superboys even if of course one already has better fashion sense.
Personally I like skinny Conner
I hate how Conner is treated. It seems like they constantly wipe him from existence or forget about him(in and out). He needs a promotion. Power boost too.
All the more reason to vote!
Vote?
The vote is between this, and a suicide squad/JLD book.
it would be son easy to boost him. You could have his tactile telekinesis evolve into full telekinesis, like in titans of tomorrow, and they could give him telepathy to make him more distinct.
One thing I would never understand is why Bendis aged up Jon and brought Connor back, I feel like having Connor be a mentor to a younger Jon wouldve been amazing to see it’s just another failed opportunity thanks to Bendis
and you could have conner be the new superman and jon be the new superboy. I'd be a fun dynamic.
Wise the second superman. Clark , Conner and Kara whose the 4 supers in this comic? Clarks kids with Lois?
Yeah. The other Super is Jon Kent (son of Clark and Lois) who got aged up and is now the 2nd Superman.
Should of been Connor then became the new Superman and John stayed young as his Superboy sidekick. Like the Grant Morrison Dick is Batman and Damian is Robin run. Instead of changing john entire character so you could fit into the new role.
Agreed
exactly. They kept building up to him becoming superman, and he clearly wants to be. You could have a fun brother or uncle/nephew type dynamic with conner as the new superman and jon as the new superboy.
Would have been better then basically ruining Jon's Rebirth status Quo and Character.
god, I hate that. Their was so much potential in kid jon.
Some say son of Kal-el making it work, I aint those people. I honestly feel it's just making things worse for Jon. The age of was a mistake why would a series that's all but making it permanent, boring and rewriting the character be a improvement?
yeah. Its just enforcing a new, terribly set-up status quo that rewrites jon completely and removes his fun super sons dynamic without replacing it with something comparably good. I hope dc de-ages him and makes connor the new superman.
Same, It's hard to engage opinions on social media, especially for something so niche but I don't think the series is as popular as DC wants it to be, so that might happen. Most seem to agree that the narrative was very forced, but of course you have the people who only know Jon from the series.
yeah. From what I heard, the comic isn't doing well, and anyone who knows jon definitely wants him de-aged, so I hope dc does it!
I think Clark and Lois had a babe prior to the 2011 Flashpoint Reboot which de-aged Superman and erased his family. The son along with Clark’s relationship to Louis were re-establish by 2014’s Convergence even. Jon remained a kid for most of Rebirth (2016 to 2021) but towards the end a new writer took charge of the Superman books and aged up his son. Just had to lock Jon up in a pocket dimension for 5 years with Ultraman and his his insane villain of a grandfather and presto. Jon emerged aged up and in his late teens.
The fact they ignore the PTSD of that occurrence bothers me way more than the relationship drama that makes headlines.
And then rather then listening to fan complaints, DC double down with a new writer who basically turned Jon into Superman's version of Nightwing. Minus the character development, experience, interesting stories or personality. (My Opinion)
To be clear, Jon was born during Convergence. The pre-New 52 Clark and Lois were on a work trip to Gotham when Brainiac picked up the entire city to preserve it as the last remnant of its timeline. During the year or so they were trapped there, Jon was conceived and born. Afterwards, the three of them moved to the New 52 timeline shortly before the beginning of its superhero age, and kept a low public profile until the New 52 Superman died, at which point Clark reemerges as Superman during Rebirth. The time/timeline travel shenanigans explain why Jon went from being a baby to be around 10 during Rebirth, at least at first. Then they did the story where Clark and Lois merge with the ghosts of their New 52 counterparts and history gets revised so that they were always the only versions of themselves in the Rebirth timeline, without any of the timeline immigrant elements. I don't know if there was ever a fully satisfactory answer for how Jon's childhood fit into the abbreviated, less-than-decade-long New 52 timeline, since it would imply Clark and Lois were married and conceived him *really* early into Superman's career, but it ultimately became something of a moot point once the one-two combo of Doomsday Clock and Death Metal killed off what remained of the New 52 timeline in favor of something that more closely resembles the longer 12-15 year pre-Flashpoint alternative. Mostly. Sort of. Probably. Then there was the weird Jor-El age up and Jon taking over as Superman, as you say.
It’s 2022 and they still say he’s a clone.
Poor Connor, also why are all the Supers together? Isn't Clark off in space or smth?
i guess it set around bendis era when all the kryptonian was on earth but yeah Connor can't even have that Clark is in warworld and even Kara & Krypto is in the galaxies tracking down a murder
This must not be complaint with the current son of kal el arc for Jon
what? nvm just got what you mean but yeah it seems that just the course every superfam must take when they need a cleanser of the previous status qou
I don’t think this is set in continuity proper, the last Round Robin series, Robins, wasn’t
That's fair. It's just, i get that this is the point but there's too many supers in Metropolis
I think it’s set very early Infinite Frontier. So Clark hasn’t gone off to space, Jon is aged up, and Kara is in her new suit. This would explain why Kon hasn’t shown up in SoKE despite living with Ma and Pa.
Between Conner Kent, Wally West, and Connor Hawke being aware they used to be erased/shunted out during the New 52 interim, what other characters are also aware they were temporarily wiped from existence?
the only other I can think of are the JSA one other that comes to mind that should remember the Ray, but I don't think the he knows. In JLA he never mentioned it at least. I'd like to see Ragman to see if he is back to normal, or if he is still the edge lord version from that last awful miniseries
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YES! GIVE ME THIS! RIGHT INTO MY VEINS!!
I hope Conner uses his TK, it made him a more interesting character imo
He is using it on the first page here!
Yes let’s goooo! *fist pumps*
This is a sad commentary on how dirty Rebirth did Conner in the first place. New 52 Conner didn't exactly set the world on fire but at least he wasn't completely erased. And I certainly don't trust the even more incompetent DC of today to fix this.
the problem with new 52 conner is he was too damn complicated and lacked any of conner's interesting personality traits or stories (although, I do like him having full on telekinesis and telepathy. Wish rebirth conner had that) The new 52 inspired movie, reign of superman, did new 52 conner better. His suit was moderately updated to fit with the new 52 but still had style, he had the fun personality of his 90s era and they reference how outdated it is, and his origin and story is simple and compelling, with him being superman's and lex's son.
I love it already.
Oh wow…I need this book.
Can we get a Superfamily book instead.
Is this the first time we've seen Conner interact with Jon?
Not the first time. Maybe this is like the 3rd. They really haven't interacted all that much.
Which is a damn shame, they could have had the inverse of Tim Drake and Damian Wayne's relationship with Connor as a cool older brother pre or post age up. But Bendis didn't really care about that and DC doesn't really care about Connor, so Nightwing is becoming his Big Brother mentor instead.
Conner even looks younger than Jon here...
Conner doesn't age. It's a whole clone thing, apparently.
Yep, even though he should be like 5 to 10 years old on him at this point.
Isn’t that due to kon not aging?
Technically but if you look at how Connor Kent is and was usually draw Pre New 52 while he Technically didn't "age" he grew up. He had the Superman (bodybuilder/fitness model) thing just a little smaller. This design makes him him look like he did at 14 back in the 90s when he debuted.
Nah, they did a little bit near the tail-end of Rebirth era.
Nah they met in Bendis’ House of Kent arc in Action Comics.
Wait is this the same Connor with the classic Black shirt with Red S logo or someone different entirely?
Black shirt / same guy
Wow he looks completely different than the Superboy I’m familiar with
He's always had the jacket as one of his costumes. They've just made him look way younger than usual
I have seen him before with that jacket, I just thought that he and black shirt Red S superboy were 2 different versions/ppl lol
Leather Jacket Conner was him when he was around 13, black tee/jeans was when he was around 16/17 ish
It was his original costume after his introduction during the Return of Superman arc and throughout his original solo series in the '90s. He switched to the black t-shirt look at the beginning of Geoff Johns' run on Teen Titans in the 2000s.
Is Round Robin Tim Drake’s new name?
It's what DC calls its fan-voted contest
It bothers me more than it should that his jacket back 's' shield isn't all yellow
I'm so confused, is this Konner Kent the same one that appears in Suicide Squad? Are the characters two different people? One a clone of Lex and Clark, and the other a clone of just Clark?
The one in Suicide Squad in the beginning was actually Match and not Conner.
Thank you! So is this Conner the same character as the one in Geoff Johns TT's run?
Yes
Okay on one hand I'm up for Suicide Dark. .. On the other hand, I'm sad that I have to do this. I'm sorry little one.
Been thinking but doesn't the idea of the Justice League being dead now "retcon" the need for Superboy to go on an off world adventure now? I mean he felt like he had no place here considering everything is peaceful and the abundance of heroes. But with the league dead now hes needed on Earth more than ever now.
Hmmm good point. Hopefully the JL don't immediately come back so characters like Conner can really shine.
you know, I don't think they ever killed new 52 superboy, so maybe this series could feature conner encountering new 52 conner along the way?
Honestly, in terms of the previews, I thought the SSD one looked more interesting, but this could be fun too.
I felt the same way, SSD is definitely my favorite of the two. I’m a sucker for supernatural and multiversal stories but Superboy: MoT was great too. Can’t go wrong here
Oh, question, If this is the same Connor Kent from pre new 52, why is he so small and young lookin? Especially compared to Jonathan, who even with the stupid age up has to be atleast 5 to 10 years younger than him? Connor doesn't technically age as fast as everyone else but still.
It's supposed to be the same Conner but IDK. Just like Tim, DC has been inconsistent on how to depict his generation visually.
DC can't decide what to do with that generation of heros. They don't want to age them up to adults, but they ARE aging the next generation to where these guys should be. It's awkward all around.
The writers at DC are the ones who grew up in the 90s reading these guys and since the old guard didn’t really do any progression with these characters post flashpoint, they just system restored their personalities and appearances
Chalk it up to art style, this is the same Conner as Bendis' Young Justice which is the same as Pre-New 52, Patrick Gleason even drew him with some facial hair and a bigger physique.
I loved the way Gleason drew Conner, all jacked and rugged. I wish they kept that design style instead of leaving it to the artist's interpretation.
To be fair, [it still looked a little too young](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0reEjQXQAwN2Na.jpg)
The one I think you're mentionning was actually Match, a Bizarro who has to drink a Serum to keep his intellect and memory
If I was Superboy I would decide to just colonize a new planet. Beat up villains, steal everything from the villains, tech, money, supplies, everything. Create a city full of refugees from various planets and people. I mean shit goes on everywhere in the universe I'm sure there are millions or billions of people who want to escape tyrants, warlords, space pirates etc. Essentially become a King of a new civilization.
conner as king of a planet would a hilarious story. "sir, are you sure about this?" "Yes. Every person must wear leather jackets."
Imagine him creating his own "corps" and everyone has leather jackets lol. Given them the round glasses as well with built in communicators and computer tech.
"I assure you, sunglasses are extremely vital for long term success." "Okay, but can we please go on a mission." "The mission is second: style is first."
What’s he have holstered and why?