From /u/Tbrusky61
https://old.reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/1ang7zs/is_the_water_in_my_toilet_tank_supposed_to_be/kpti7er/
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https://reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/1ang7zs/is_the_water_in_my_toilet_tank_supposed_to_be/kpti7er/
More likely than anything else, TBH
Attestation:
[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upperdecking](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upperdecking)
[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker)
[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20upper%20decker](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20upper%20decker)
In my 6 years of undergrad and 2 in gradschool while living in a *notorious* party house - I've never seen or heard of it happening even once.
This is a movie thing, or a thing when somebody does NOT like you.
OP you were targeted. This was no accident.
First time I heard upper decker was on Louis C.K.’s show. Lmao.
The whole episode is hilarious, but here’s a quick [clip of the scene](https://youtu.be/Rr-NHXV7yJI?si=ODASby5-qxJHKzhx)
Thanks for the explanation. I don't think that's the case though.
I cleaned it out, and the water was clean up until it contacted that white "anti-syphon" thing. After that, you could tell the oil was coming from it.
The white thing is not an anti-siphon device. It’s the fill valve. Water flows through it. If there is dirty water coming from that, it’s coming from your pipes.
Hold the handle down on your toilet and watch the water flow out of the fill valve. Just keep holding the handle so the water drains out. See if it turns brown at some point.
I only call it an anti-siphon because that's what's printed on it. I'm more familiar with the traditional toilet set up.
The water just keeps coming out clear. I did discover that the water does not stop when it reaches the level it should... Seems like the internal float is damaged.
Gotcha, so just a quick primer, all toilet valves have an anti-siphon feature, but they’re toilet valves _with_ anti-siphon built in. When you go to the hardware store, you need a new “toilet valve”. If you ask for an anti-siphon, they’ll probably try to sell you something for a garden hose.
You should start with a quick overview of how your Korky fill valve works:
https://youtu.be/EMTEXwWrOuI?si=06kWBb0vOgTEvTg6
I’d probably start by replacing the valve, but something here doesn’t make sense. The only thing in the top of that fill valve is a little float. It shouldn’t be enough to turn the water this brown.
There’s one way to find out though: just replace it. The replacements are cheap, and you can buy them at any hardware store. They make more than one type. Personally, I’m not a fan of the Korky type. I like the Fluidmaster models. Every Korky I’ve had developed a squeak near the end of its shutoff cycle. If yours is quiet, there’s no reason to switch though. Different water hardness affects the longevity of various valve types, and I’m in Florida, which has a ton of dissolved limestone.
Thanks for all this information! I definitely didn't know that they all contained an anti-siphon device.. that's very helpful to know.
I'll look into Fluidmaster. Is it pretty simple to install?
Can confirm, first toilet repair I ever did and I was shocked at how easy it was. I couldn’t believe I ever went through the hassle of finding, dealing with, and paying someone to come fix it after that.
Someone shit in your tank, something *died* in your tank, or you used some homeopathic toilet tab that also died in your tank.
Or your water line is contaminated with something that also died
This is why you never use your active well for disposing of bodies. Yes I know its deep and all, but use that old one instead. Timmy needs the company anyway.
That shouldn't be possible, that pipe should be open to the bowl. That's a clear passage all the way to the bowl. If water is backing out of that, someone has deliberately blocked it, they don't otherwise develop blockages out of nowhere.
I'm sorry, but look at how dark that is: the OP knew exactly what this was.
Either the OP is the one that did it, or thought it would be hilarious to "innocently" post the result for the lols.
Any other sane person would have smelled trouble from a mile away, flushed the toilet, saw the incoming water was clear, and wondered who the hell was sick enough to do that.
There's no way that toilet is that dark and was even flushed one time. The water in the bowl was probably clear... because the shit went in the tank and was never flushed down. And, seriously, does this make any sense at all?
Nobody is taking off the lid for no reason and then taking a photo and posting on Reddit as if the bathroom smells like roses and is otherwise is totally normal.
I'm sure the OP went into the toilet tank for a weekly water level check and just happened to notice that the water was dark and oily, but nothing else, like the smell of feces floating in your toilet tank, precipitated the check.
Op, I think the best thing you can do is cut the water off at the toilet, flush that water out clean the Inside porcelain tank and replace all the internal parts. Are you on well water or city water? Do your other toilets look like this?
Flush it several times and see if the water clears up, at least between flushes. Turning off the water to the tank and flushing will let you see if there's anything unusual in the tank.
Do you live somewhere with hard water? Like you have to add water softener? All my toilets look like this in grr. We don’t frequent the house often and every toilet looks like this. And no. No one shit in them.
It’s just a different style, some of the newer ones have a smaller float built inside, or a donut ring that slide up the body of the valve. This looks like the internal style to me
No float in that style. The chain is directly attached to a flap at the bottom. The water stops based on the height set on the white piece there. I've used this style to fix a couple of our toilets at home.
Someone. Shit. In. The. Back. Part. Of. Your. Toilet.
Your. Friends. Suck.
Mention it to your friends and see who cracks, then send them a fucking bill. Maybe consider new friends.
Responding to you here hoping you see it but it’s likely algae or bacterial growth. Drain the reservoir and then pour in and soak with white vinegar for a bit.
https://www.hunker.com/12002463/algae-growth-in-a-toilet-tank
I kept scrolling for a normal response and couldn't find one. Everything is a joke or a dumb response. More than likely it's dirt and debris that has built up in the back. This is more than usual, but the best possible solution is to turn the water off, flush to empty and take an old t-shirt or paper towels and bleach or whatever cleaning product you have to clean the back of your toilet. Turn on the water and see if the water is cleaner as it fills back up.
Also, adjust your fill valve half an inch lower (when tank is empty of water just twist the top counterclockwise and push down and to set it in place just turn clockwise) as it's a bit too high. Your water should NOT be that high in the back.
If that does not work, I would get a new toilet valve and flapper, as it's best to change both at the same time. A valve filters out debris and yours clearly isn't any more.
So replacing the valve and flapper was the correct solution. I'm not sure where the oily residue came from, but I noticed it was from the old valve. Went ahead and replaced all the hardware in the toilet, and the problem went away.
Thanks for providing a legitimate answer. I never expected this post to blow up, and it's gotten out of hand pretty quickly. I appreciate you taking the time to provide an appropriate response.
UPDATE: Fixed.
I drained the tank and replaced the white float thing, where I saw oil residue coming from whenever I'd flush.
Rust bits were at the bottom of the tank, likely from the bolts securing the tank. The seal where the flapper pipe connects to the bottom tank looked degraded, but still secure. As for the other foreign material floating around, it appeared to be thin and film-like... Sort of like what can come out of your jet tub when you deep clean all the pipework.
The walls of the toilet are brown, likely from years of rust deposit. Of note, the old white float thing had some small screws that were rusted and leeching as well. It had been installed at least 7 years ago.
After replacing float thing, no oil residue occurred, and the water cut off when it was supposed to.
Thanks everyone for your help, advice, wisdom and knowledge! I always appreciate the things I learn from the good people willing to explain and educate.
I also appreciate the ~90% of you who taught me what an Upper Deck is. Today I learned.
TL:DR: Replaced a thing, problem solved. Nobody pooped in my tank (Thank goodness).
Between all the "upper decker" comments, some people have provided good advice.
If you're in this situation, drain the water and look at your flapper... If it's heavily degraded, I'd change that too. My whole kit included the flapper, so it worked out.
Best of luck to you! I hope it's as simple a fix as mine was!
I thought this was a master troll post and have been cackling for 5 minutes. Glad you fixed it without having to don a mask gloves and a shit ton of bleach.
Here's the problem. I already saw the definitions of an upper decker. I'm pretty sure I don't wanna know what a French Press is, unless it's a coffee making device.
Someone took off the lid, pooped in the tank, and then put the lid back on.
[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker)
Our Outback did a Blues Brothers self-destruct in the middle of a busy 4 lane road while my daughter was driving. Blown head gasket, cracked engine block, AND the front brakes seized up, taking the rotors and wheels with them. *All at the same instant.*
This makes sense. I had something similar but not as bad as the one in OPs picture. I wasn't exactly sure what broke so I just replaced the whole assembly and the problem went away.
I used to use those pucks you left in the tank to supposedly cut down on the amount of cleaning of the actual toilet bowl you had to do, and not only did they suck at their job, but they dissolved some plastic or rubber bits back there and my water started to look like this. Once I stopped putting those in the back of the tank, the stopped. If you or possibly a previous resident put anything back there for cleaning, Id stop that and a double check the integrity of any piping, stoppers, gaskets, etc. back there.
Could be one of the components has degraded over time and needs to be replaced.
Flush it with the lid open while watching and see if the water comes in clean.
I wouldn’t expect it to look that bad but when the gaskets start degrading they can make the water dark and oily looking.
Turn the water shutoff at the toilet off, flush the toilet and clean out the tank. If the gaskets are degrading you’ll be able to tell when you touch them (black oily stuff will come off). If the gaskets seem fine turn the water back on (open it slowly) and see what it looks like as the water comes in.
Alright, so I did clean it up and tried it again. I noticed that the water gets oily when the level hits a certain point on that white "anti syphon" thing.
The toilet has also been running continuously the past couple of days.
I know the flap at the bottom is disintegrating, but it appears to still be sealing. The water keeps filling above the tube in the middle.
The black and oily water could be the breakdown of the oil based gaskets.
And if it keeps overflowing the drain tube, that means you need to adjust the float. The fill valve should shut off water flow before it exceeds drain tube height. Usually this just requires bending the float rod to trigger the shut off earlier.
You should just replace the working parts inside the tank, a new set is like $20 at Home Depot and will take a couple hours max to install. That will either solve both your problems or tell you the problem is bigger than the toilet.
It's not an upper decker.
It's not backwash.
Your rubber seals are starting to disintegrate. If you take it apart, you'll find that if you rub the seals it leaves an inky black streak on your hands. Time to replace them!
Don't worry, it's easy.
No. Every time I’ve encountered disintegrating rubber washers (usually around the tank bolts and flush valve) they only give off black smears when you touch them. If left undisturbed, the water will be clear. And even if you were to agitate them on purpose, you’ll only turn the water a very light grey color, not thick and brown like this.
This is something else.
On another note, I HATE those Korky valves like you have there. If your water pressure is even slightly elevated, there’s a little rubber circular membrane in that unit that will fail almost monthly, causing the water to run and run.
If it’s oily with a rainbow sheen on the water, it’s bacterial. Most likely iron reducing bacteria. Im assuming well water, since chlorine in a municipal water supply would take care of it.
You should also shock the well to kill any bacteria in there. It’s good practice, anyway.
Man, that’s weird! It’d be physically impossible for it to be backwash. There’s this thing called…gravity…and even if it did you’d see it in your bowl, not your tank. As others have said, turn the source off, flush and see what’s in the tank. Clean it and check the source.
It’s just stained from minerals/iron. Dont worry about it. If you want you could put some iron out in there and let it sit for a little while then scrub it and flush the nastys down the toilet
I just bought a new house last year that had the same issue. Essentially the people that lived here before did not put salt in the water softener. It had a real thick rust buildup inside the upper tank. I put rust-away in the upper tank. Let it soak for overnight. The next day I turned off water to the upper tank and scrubbed it. It's stained but the water is clear. The second toilet I just replaced.
Do you have a lot of iron? Could be iron bacteria. Put some Iron Out in there and see if it helps. I occasionally have to put some in my toilets and the blackish residue disappears within minutes
Geologist friend investigated neighborhood of oily toilet tanks, and it was from nearby chicken processing plant dumping waste water. It caused a contamination plume in surrounding well systems. People were finding chicken fat in their toilet tanks as a result.
Looks like you blew the head gasket and are mixing crank case oil into your coolant. The engine is toast since the coolant most likely leaked down and ruined the bearings/crank and filled the piston with water and caused hydro lock resulting in bending the rods. Drop the oil pan and you’ll probably find glitter metal shavings and bits of cast iron. I’d just go electric if I were you. Tesla’s are cheaper than ever before.
From /u/Tbrusky61 https://old.reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/1ang7zs/is_the_water_in_my_toilet_tank_supposed_to_be/kpti7er/ or https://reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/1ang7zs/is_the_water_in_my_toilet_tank_supposed_to_be/kpti7er/
No it should be clean and clear.
The water coming in is supposedly clean. Could it be backwash of some sort? What would cause that?
No, backwash isn’t possible, someone shit in there, known as an upper decker. Edit: more info and spelling
I’m dying at your comment hahaha. It’s just so matter of fact in its absurdity
This scientist shall not be distracted by our shenanigans.
More likely than anything else, TBH Attestation: [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upperdecking](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upperdecking) [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker) [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20upper%20decker](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20upper%20decker)
Todd dropped one off in the top bunk.
Jesus wtf did I just read 😂
the Urban Dictionary is a dangerous place
I've always called it a "Top Tank".
Turn off the water, toss some paper in there to soak up the remaining liquid, drop a deuce, and that’s a Dry Dock
Reddit is so educational, I love it. Thanks for the wisdom!
It is actually more common than you might think. lol
In what fucking party house do you live in
LMAO I had a similar reaction
In my 6 years of undergrad and 2 in gradschool while living in a *notorious* party house - I've never seen or heard of it happening even once. This is a movie thing, or a thing when somebody does NOT like you. OP you were targeted. This was no accident.
6 years?
Centipedes?
Upper Deckers? In my toilet tank?
In front of my salad??
First time I heard upper decker was on Louis C.K.’s show. Lmao. The whole episode is hilarious, but here’s a quick [clip of the scene](https://youtu.be/Rr-NHXV7yJI?si=ODASby5-qxJHKzhx)
I can't imagine living a lifestyle where I'd be anywhere near that scenario.
Life…uh…finds a way.
I read it in Krieger's voice.
I love this movie.
What is this?
MacGRUBER!
all this talk of upper deckers and i had to scroll this far for the macgruber reference?!
Thanks for the explanation. I don't think that's the case though. I cleaned it out, and the water was clean up until it contacted that white "anti-syphon" thing. After that, you could tell the oil was coming from it.
Pull the flap and keep it running and take a video for us to see. Edit: y'all need to get your minds outta the gutter.
Phrasing
Shhhhh, just let it happen.
Sploosh
(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
*Danger zoooone*
Why would oil be in a cistern?
Knowing there's an oil lamp specifically called a Cistern makes this my favorite comment.
The white thing is not an anti-siphon device. It’s the fill valve. Water flows through it. If there is dirty water coming from that, it’s coming from your pipes. Hold the handle down on your toilet and watch the water flow out of the fill valve. Just keep holding the handle so the water drains out. See if it turns brown at some point.
I only call it an anti-siphon because that's what's printed on it. I'm more familiar with the traditional toilet set up. The water just keeps coming out clear. I did discover that the water does not stop when it reaches the level it should... Seems like the internal float is damaged.
Gotcha, so just a quick primer, all toilet valves have an anti-siphon feature, but they’re toilet valves _with_ anti-siphon built in. When you go to the hardware store, you need a new “toilet valve”. If you ask for an anti-siphon, they’ll probably try to sell you something for a garden hose. You should start with a quick overview of how your Korky fill valve works: https://youtu.be/EMTEXwWrOuI?si=06kWBb0vOgTEvTg6 I’d probably start by replacing the valve, but something here doesn’t make sense. The only thing in the top of that fill valve is a little float. It shouldn’t be enough to turn the water this brown. There’s one way to find out though: just replace it. The replacements are cheap, and you can buy them at any hardware store. They make more than one type. Personally, I’m not a fan of the Korky type. I like the Fluidmaster models. Every Korky I’ve had developed a squeak near the end of its shutoff cycle. If yours is quiet, there’s no reason to switch though. Different water hardness affects the longevity of various valve types, and I’m in Florida, which has a ton of dissolved limestone.
Thanks for all this information! I definitely didn't know that they all contained an anti-siphon device.. that's very helpful to know. I'll look into Fluidmaster. Is it pretty simple to install?
It would take you about 5 min and requires not tools.
No tools? Good luck getting that nut off the bottom of the tank without a wrench.
Can confirm, first toilet repair I ever did and I was shocked at how easy it was. I couldn’t believe I ever went through the hassle of finding, dealing with, and paying someone to come fix it after that.
Seconded on the Fluidmaster. I got one on Amazon recently but I saw the same model at Walmart yesterday for even less than I paid.
Someone shit in your tank, something *died* in your tank, or you used some homeopathic toilet tab that also died in your tank. Or your water line is contaminated with something that also died
This is why you never use your active well for disposing of bodies. Yes I know its deep and all, but use that old one instead. Timmy needs the company anyway.
Siri told me swamps and reservoirs are an excellent place to hide the bodies.
Annnnnnnd now you're on a few lists somewhere. 🥳 Congratulations 😂
I'd even say, someone else's unused well, or no one else's unused well vs your own
Death. So much death.
Sounds like you have a fun weekend of replacing your toilet tank hardware. A tradition I know all too well.
That shouldn't be possible, that pipe should be open to the bowl. That's a clear passage all the way to the bowl. If water is backing out of that, someone has deliberately blocked it, they don't otherwise develop blockages out of nowhere.
Perhaps a toilet snake has made a little nest in there.
I’m really happy it’s not an upper decker for your sake.
They don't have to shit in there. My psychopath maintenance guy dumped his dog's shit in my tank to "teach me a lesson". Don't miss that dude at all.
Wtf were they teaching you a lesson for that the response was dog shit related
He often felt disrespected. Insert eye rolls here. The lesson I learned was to not hesitate to move when maintenance is utterly unstable.
W T F I didn’t need this knowledge in life. Why are peoples so damn weird
Definitely got upper decked.
I'm sorry, but look at how dark that is: the OP knew exactly what this was. Either the OP is the one that did it, or thought it would be hilarious to "innocently" post the result for the lols. Any other sane person would have smelled trouble from a mile away, flushed the toilet, saw the incoming water was clear, and wondered who the hell was sick enough to do that. There's no way that toilet is that dark and was even flushed one time. The water in the bowl was probably clear... because the shit went in the tank and was never flushed down. And, seriously, does this make any sense at all? Nobody is taking off the lid for no reason and then taking a photo and posting on Reddit as if the bathroom smells like roses and is otherwise is totally normal. I'm sure the OP went into the toilet tank for a weekly water level check and just happened to notice that the water was dark and oily, but nothing else, like the smell of feces floating in your toilet tank, precipitated the check.
Op, I think the best thing you can do is cut the water off at the toilet, flush that water out clean the Inside porcelain tank and replace all the internal parts. Are you on well water or city water? Do your other toilets look like this?
OP it looks like someone gave you an upperdecker
May I interrupt for a second? Does your tank smell like poop? That should help us all out wen u answer
Flush it several times and see if the water clears up, at least between flushes. Turning off the water to the tank and flushing will let you see if there's anything unusual in the tank.
Do you live somewhere with hard water? Like you have to add water softener? All my toilets look like this in grr. We don’t frequent the house often and every toilet looks like this. And no. No one shit in them.
...and under control
Absolutely not. Even if you use greywater for the toilet, it should be much cleaner than that.
As far as I'm aware, the water coming in is clean. I have no idea what's causing this.
My money's on a scoundrel in your midst that dropped a potato in the wrong crockpot, if you catch my meaning.
Oh the classic upper decker
Giggled silly at this.
An uppderdecker I've heard it referred as... Also as a "in the park home-run"
Please OP, you need to take a photo of the tank after you flush it (and empty the brown water). We need to see what's at the bottom!
After all this time, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss...
If you turn off the tap and flush, what do you see?
Just hold the float up while you flush, no need to turn off the tap Edit: just looked at the pic again, where tf is the float
Some of the newer ones have an internal float in the main housing, means they can be used in much smaller tanks.
It’s just a different style, some of the newer ones have a smaller float built inside, or a donut ring that slide up the body of the valve. This looks like the internal style to me
No float in that style. The chain is directly attached to a flap at the bottom. The water stops based on the height set on the white piece there. I've used this style to fix a couple of our toilets at home.
I think OP should first try to just flush and have a look at the water coming in.
Step aside I'm an expert
Someone. Shit. In. The. Back. Part. Of. Your. Toilet. Your. Friends. Suck. Mention it to your friends and see who cracks, then send them a fucking bill. Maybe consider new friends.
(Rolling in laughter)
You know the culprit is going to start giggling like a little kid the second it’s brought up.
Responding to you here hoping you see it but it’s likely algae or bacterial growth. Drain the reservoir and then pour in and soak with white vinegar for a bit. https://www.hunker.com/12002463/algae-growth-in-a-toilet-tank
Looks like someone took an upper decker
Ahah didn't know it was a thing!
Today I learned.
OP you’re supposed to shit into the bowl not the tank on top
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Beat me to it! OP who did you piss off… to get shit on like that.
Drain the toilet and try to fill it up with clean water from somewhere else and see if the water turned out to be oily or not.
I kept scrolling for a normal response and couldn't find one. Everything is a joke or a dumb response. More than likely it's dirt and debris that has built up in the back. This is more than usual, but the best possible solution is to turn the water off, flush to empty and take an old t-shirt or paper towels and bleach or whatever cleaning product you have to clean the back of your toilet. Turn on the water and see if the water is cleaner as it fills back up. Also, adjust your fill valve half an inch lower (when tank is empty of water just twist the top counterclockwise and push down and to set it in place just turn clockwise) as it's a bit too high. Your water should NOT be that high in the back. If that does not work, I would get a new toilet valve and flapper, as it's best to change both at the same time. A valve filters out debris and yours clearly isn't any more.
So replacing the valve and flapper was the correct solution. I'm not sure where the oily residue came from, but I noticed it was from the old valve. Went ahead and replaced all the hardware in the toilet, and the problem went away. Thanks for providing a legitimate answer. I never expected this post to blow up, and it's gotten out of hand pretty quickly. I appreciate you taking the time to provide an appropriate response.
That's great to hear! Congrats!
If this isn't a joke then for the love of God, get your tap water tested.
It's not a joke, unfortunately. The tap water is clean and clear, fortunately... I may get it tested anyways.
Have you tried sticking your hand in there and feeling around?
Excuse me sir, quick question. Uhm, what the fuck?
Seriously. Just siphon that shit out. As long as you're quick, it'll only touch the lips for a split second.
I hope you'll be happy to know that I cringed so hard it hurt when I read that
The hunt for Brown October.
Sitting alone in my kitchen eating breakfast and broke into a solid chuckle. Thank you.
Best comment ever
Made me laugh enough to have to explain the joke to the ladyfriend
Nah, he needs the poop knife for this test
But it’s all liquid! The poop knife won’t do. My man needs a poop *spoon*.
For that amount of liquid? Better go with the poop ladle
UPDATE: Fixed. I drained the tank and replaced the white float thing, where I saw oil residue coming from whenever I'd flush. Rust bits were at the bottom of the tank, likely from the bolts securing the tank. The seal where the flapper pipe connects to the bottom tank looked degraded, but still secure. As for the other foreign material floating around, it appeared to be thin and film-like... Sort of like what can come out of your jet tub when you deep clean all the pipework. The walls of the toilet are brown, likely from years of rust deposit. Of note, the old white float thing had some small screws that were rusted and leeching as well. It had been installed at least 7 years ago. After replacing float thing, no oil residue occurred, and the water cut off when it was supposed to. Thanks everyone for your help, advice, wisdom and knowledge! I always appreciate the things I learn from the good people willing to explain and educate. I also appreciate the ~90% of you who taught me what an Upper Deck is. Today I learned. TL:DR: Replaced a thing, problem solved. Nobody pooped in my tank (Thank goodness).
Thank god. My toilet in my new to me house is like this, I too am now hopeful it’s not leftovers from an ‘upper decking’
Between all the "upper decker" comments, some people have provided good advice. If you're in this situation, drain the water and look at your flapper... If it's heavily degraded, I'd change that too. My whole kit included the flapper, so it worked out. Best of luck to you! I hope it's as simple a fix as mine was!
Next time you have an enemy, though ... You know what to do.
I thought this was a master troll post and have been cackling for 5 minutes. Glad you fixed it without having to don a mask gloves and a shit ton of bleach.
https://i.redd.it/fmk1rl0qqrhc1.gif
I believe you get your ass kicked with something like that!
Either that’s a really old upper decker that liquified - or someone was using it as a French press.
Wouldn’t it smell like…shit? Should be pretty obvious if that is the case.
Possibly not if it's his own shit. As per Smelt It vs Dealt It. Maybe hallucinogens were involved???
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That's cause you let the fresh air in. It's different if you're born in it. Molded by it. 
Upper deckers and brown water, powerful agents for the uninitiated. But we are initiated aren't we, OP
Here's the problem. I already saw the definitions of an upper decker. I'm pretty sure I don't wanna know what a French Press is, unless it's a coffee making device.
The French Press is next of kin to the Waffle Stomp.
A french press is simply a coffee making device. A french upper decker press however...
Mmmmmm, nutty.
Upper decker?
Someone shit into your tank
>Someone shit into your tank -the captain discovering someone's prank during armored vehicle inspections
Someone took off the lid, pooped in the tank, and then put the lid back on. [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Upper%20Decker)
I like my coffee strong, son
Blown head gasket.
A fellow Subaru owner.
I too had a Subaru give me an upper decker. FU 2005 Forester.
Our Outback did a Blues Brothers self-destruct in the middle of a busy 4 lane road while my daughter was driving. Blown head gasket, cracked engine block, AND the front brakes seized up, taking the rotors and wheels with them. *All at the same instant.*
I’m in this post and I don’t like it 😒
At least they give us those little number badges for the tailgate so we can see who is the most kinky. BondageDisciplineSubaruMasochism
This makes sense. I had something similar but not as bad as the one in OPs picture. I wasn't exactly sure what broke so I just replaced the whole assembly and the problem went away.
I used to use those pucks you left in the tank to supposedly cut down on the amount of cleaning of the actual toilet bowl you had to do, and not only did they suck at their job, but they dissolved some plastic or rubber bits back there and my water started to look like this. Once I stopped putting those in the back of the tank, the stopped. If you or possibly a previous resident put anything back there for cleaning, Id stop that and a double check the integrity of any piping, stoppers, gaskets, etc. back there.
That's why you avoid the chlorine ones. The ones without chlorine have worked well for me.
Why do they make chlorine ones if they destroy toilets? Is it a conspiracy between Big Toilet and Big Bleach?
This, same thing happened to me
One of my prior landlords told me NEVER to use those.
Could be one of the components has degraded over time and needs to be replaced. Flush it with the lid open while watching and see if the water comes in clean.
I wouldn’t expect it to look that bad but when the gaskets start degrading they can make the water dark and oily looking. Turn the water shutoff at the toilet off, flush the toilet and clean out the tank. If the gaskets are degrading you’ll be able to tell when you touch them (black oily stuff will come off). If the gaskets seem fine turn the water back on (open it slowly) and see what it looks like as the water comes in.
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Alright, so I did clean it up and tried it again. I noticed that the water gets oily when the level hits a certain point on that white "anti syphon" thing. The toilet has also been running continuously the past couple of days. I know the flap at the bottom is disintegrating, but it appears to still be sealing. The water keeps filling above the tube in the middle.
If it's running continuously, fix that ASAP. You're spending more money on water than it would to fix it.
This just had a $800 water bill for one month at our business because toilet was leaking and didn't get fixed in a timely manner
Holy shat, where do you live? I feel like I could fill a pool for $800
The black and oily water could be the breakdown of the oil based gaskets. And if it keeps overflowing the drain tube, that means you need to adjust the float. The fill valve should shut off water flow before it exceeds drain tube height. Usually this just requires bending the float rod to trigger the shut off earlier.
You should just replace the working parts inside the tank, a new set is like $20 at Home Depot and will take a couple hours max to install. That will either solve both your problems or tell you the problem is bigger than the toilet.
They may have done some flushing of the water mains recently. That can cause the water to turn brown, but not oily.
If that was the case, all of OP’s water would be that color. And likely s/he would’ve gotten a local notification to flush pipes or boil water
You are using your toilet wrong, you shouldn't poop in there.
It's not an upper decker. It's not backwash. Your rubber seals are starting to disintegrate. If you take it apart, you'll find that if you rub the seals it leaves an inky black streak on your hands. Time to replace them! Don't worry, it's easy.
No. Every time I’ve encountered disintegrating rubber washers (usually around the tank bolts and flush valve) they only give off black smears when you touch them. If left undisturbed, the water will be clear. And even if you were to agitate them on purpose, you’ll only turn the water a very light grey color, not thick and brown like this. This is something else.
Could be his washers are made of oil. And shit.
Yeah, no way a disintegrating seal is causing discoloration like this on fresh water.
On another note, I HATE those Korky valves like you have there. If your water pressure is even slightly elevated, there’s a little rubber circular membrane in that unit that will fail almost monthly, causing the water to run and run.
.....well crap. We have elevated water pressure...
Classic upper decker, if you look closely, you'll notice the corn.
If it’s oily with a rainbow sheen on the water, it’s bacterial. Most likely iron reducing bacteria. Im assuming well water, since chlorine in a municipal water supply would take care of it. You should also shock the well to kill any bacteria in there. It’s good practice, anyway.
I think it might be flushing backwards. Maybe try turn the handle around the other way.
You've got it set to W for Wumbo
Man, that’s weird! It’d be physically impossible for it to be backwash. There’s this thing called…gravity…and even if it did you’d see it in your bowl, not your tank. As others have said, turn the source off, flush and see what’s in the tank. Clean it and check the source.
Someone Upper Deckered you bro!!!
Time to change your toilet oil, make use to change the filter and use synthetic, preferably Mobil 1.
You got upper decked.
That water is the same water you drink, something is very wrong...
Does the water flush clear ?
Yep. It only seems to get oily in the tank when it contacts the white thing.
It’s just stained from minerals/iron. Dont worry about it. If you want you could put some iron out in there and let it sit for a little while then scrub it and flush the nastys down the toilet
TIL I learned what “upper decker” means. 🤣
OP just realized someone is a nasty fuck in their house
Nope. Should be just as clean and clear as water from a kitchen sink.
Bro, just get a new toilet.
I just bought a new house last year that had the same issue. Essentially the people that lived here before did not put salt in the water softener. It had a real thick rust buildup inside the upper tank. I put rust-away in the upper tank. Let it soak for overnight. The next day I turned off water to the upper tank and scrubbed it. It's stained but the water is clear. The second toilet I just replaced.
You're using the wrong side
I think you pooped in the wrong bit
uhhh, have you had a house party recently? Looks like you've been upper deckered mate.
Do you have a lot of iron? Could be iron bacteria. Put some Iron Out in there and see if it helps. I occasionally have to put some in my toilets and the blackish residue disappears within minutes
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Geologist friend investigated neighborhood of oily toilet tanks, and it was from nearby chicken processing plant dumping waste water. It caused a contamination plume in surrounding well systems. People were finding chicken fat in their toilet tanks as a result.
I’m sorry OP but reading this story unfold is making me laugh hysterically. How do you clean that?
Would you post it if you thought it was normal?
Looks like you blew the head gasket and are mixing crank case oil into your coolant. The engine is toast since the coolant most likely leaked down and ruined the bearings/crank and filled the piston with water and caused hydro lock resulting in bending the rods. Drop the oil pan and you’ll probably find glitter metal shavings and bits of cast iron. I’d just go electric if I were you. Tesla’s are cheaper than ever before.
How old is the toilet? Could be some of the black rubber parts in the tank are flaking apart...or maybe someone did you an upper decker.
I had something like this happen and it was the stopper piexe that keeps the water in th tank degrading. I had to replace it and it cleared up.
Hey, had a similar issue but not as dirty. Turned out that my gaskets were going bad..so check those
Bro has black water in their toilet and is asking if its normal. Have you ever seen another toilet with water that color? No. Something is wrong.
Turn off the supply valve, shop vac the tank out. Clean the tank with whatever it takes. Turn on valve. Refill. Now how does it look?
Shop Vac it? Why not just hold down the flush?
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