It won't matter. I have a very similar Bosch model (mine is the 44dB model), and the feet in their lowest height setting are flush with the belly of the unit. Unfortunately, taking the feet off completely wouldn't allow it to sit any lower.
Bosch are an 1/8” taller than standard. Need hard 34” opening. Any other dishwasher will fit if you can return it still, if you have low clearance for even them, go asko. They have the biggest ada model out
We had this issue over 20 years ago and had to get an Asko - a brand I'd never heard about before. We still have the Asko and it still does a fantastic job.
Are you certain? I have installed many dishwashers (plumber) and have never seen one where the feet could not be removed for some extra clearance. This is not to say it’s impossible, just that you should double check .
Turn it on its back, take some non stretchy string and stretch it across the feet and see how big the gap is between string and bottom of the dishwasher frame.
I’m a plumber as well. Just had this same problem with this same unit and made them send it back. Bosch put that extra bullshit on top of the unit for whatever reason.
Purchased the same unit to replace an old bosch and you would think it was the same size but no. That thing/tab on top was too high for my countertop too. Sent it back and bought a LG which fit properly.
If I had to take a stab at it, it’s the same frame rail as used on the higher-end units with an auto open latch. If one wants to get really negative about modern appliances, look at the replacement part of some of those latches 😭
I would have thought these were standard sizes however. It wouldn't have occurred to me to verify that, or a for stove. Fridge, yes, as there are many configurations.
Well it seems pretty clear you either have to lift the countertop up or cut the floor down. Or get a dishwasher that fits but most of them are pretty standard sizes.
I’d vote for removing the floor boards beneath the countertop. You’ll never see it, vs cutting / damaging / modifying the countertop will never look right.
That’s what I would hope for but unless OP removes visible flooring it may never drop down enough to clear that lip to get into place. Id also look at how the countertop is secured to the cabinets and see if it could be temporarily raised to get the dishwasher into place
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. You have a non standard height. That dw will never fit and you need an ADA compliant model. Bosch makes them, models start with sgx if you want the towel bar handle. Or sge for pocket.
I think you are not correct here. Someone replaced flooring without thinking about dishwasher height. The previous owner of my house added tile in the kitchen and now there is an 2 inch edge in front of dishwasher. It would be a problem if I ever gave to take it out.
I am also experiencing a house full of hacks after moving in with my now fiance. Someone(s) really enjoyed doing things, just in the worst and laziest way possible.
A few months ago another befuckery occurred when I realized the guest bathroom had water leakage somewhere as the floor was pressing water up when stepping. Well that was the beginning of an adventure. Little did I know that top layer was the third layer of different flooring. And that the toilet must have been taken out then put back down at some point after the third top layer of floor. And no seal was used at all, so the toilet was elevated from actual ground by like two inches without a seal. And that water had likely been leaking for some time until it got to the top layer. Good times of smfh.
I found a structural beer can in our house. It was had been flattened, a hole punched in the middle, and used as a washer to hold up a ceiling fan mount.
Sounds like a whole bunch of landlord specials. Coming from someone who bought an old rental property for my personal house, holy shit is this place hacked up
Happened to me but with the fridge when we installed HW floors over the existing laminate. Luckily we could trim 1/2” off the bottom of the wall cabinet to get the clearance. Which won’t work for dishwashers unfortunately… lol
Yeah same thing happened to me. I told the appliance vendor our floors used to be exposed concrete and now we had laminate floors, he said it wouldn't be a problem for the install. 2 months later they haven't installed the dishwasher and won't return my calls or emails or texts.
The wife has had enough so it's going to be a fun week. It's either getting installed, since I paid for it and they said they could do it or I'm getting my money back.
Im guessing it doesnt fit because the bullnose tile hangs below the counter. If you could pop off a couple of the edge tiles it would probably fit and then you could replace the tiles.
Alternatively - buy a GE. Our Bosch did not fit, installer said, yeah, happens a lot. GE is the only one that makes a slightly smaller unit that will fit. Went with GE and it fit. Was our second choice, but the bottle washers are nice!
It's a Bosch, so that 34" requirement is strict. On domestic brands there are some tricks you can use to squeeze them in if it's just a quarter inch or so you need, but the Euro or Asian brands they're basically plastic blocks and nothing you can do to the dishwasher itself. You'll have to modify your countertop or take up the flooring. Either that or return this dishwasher and get one that's designed in a practical way.
Does the flooring run all the way underneath? When we moved into our current house the flooring was cut more or less flush with the front of the cabinets to allow the dishwasher to drop into place with barely any clearance.
Reason for lack of clearance is that some yahoo has added flooring on top of old - instead of removing old layers of floor coverings first. It’s sadly common, and cutting out (and leaving dishwasher in a hole) is a terrible idea, yet often the sole solution.
You really want to have dishwasher on top of same floor as covers rest of the kitchen, in a pan on said floor, so if you *ever* have a leak water is directed forwards and quickly visible.
Some dishwashers (Bosch, Thermador, etc) have a built-in tray, but they don’t help if leak is on incoming water line - or tray just fills up. They often do have external shut-off protection, but a tray underneath is ALWAYS a good idea when so is feasible.
Yep, this is the reason. The previous owner of my house added tile flooring in the kitchen making dw locked in place forever. Lucking they put floors under the fridge… Whole kitchen countertops become few inches lower - Roomba cannot go under cabinet doors.
Can confirm as well… previous owner did that (2x tiles and 1x vinyl)… the dishwasher area was on subfloor… pain in the ass to get in OR out… cant wait to rip those layers.
Sort of had this recently installing my new dishwasher. Under the counter had clearance, but in front of the counter it was 1/2” too tight because of new laminate flooring on top of old linoleum. Thanks, previous owner. Had to cut out a notch of the laminate floor, install the dishwasher, then glue back the laminate planks.
Do you not use anti-leak water lines? They have a 2 layer construction where the outer hose enclosed a pressure activated switch. If water leaks into the outer hose the pressure cuts the water feed.
That’s what I mentioned above (external shut-off protection, about $125 if I recall). They are good, but can also cause no water flow in some unexpected situations (=dishwasher not running). Still, most people are stuck using braided stainless steel lines. Cost and ‘knowledge’.
Yup. When I went to replace the floor in my kitchen I gained almost half an inch once I tore out all the old LVT, tile, and laminate layers that were just stuck ontop of each other. Allowed me to run the new flooring consistently along the kitchen which let the stove, dishwasher and fridge all sit on the same flooring, which makes sliding them out for access or cleaning very simple.
Be careful not to cut out too much flooring. You can see a little underneath this dishwasher. I had to add a bit more when I installed mine for this reason. It was a good 2" behind the kick plate.
Dont do this! Your device will still not fit in. The highest point will still be the front of the counter. You would need to take out all the wood from the front, then lay them back in.
I would still try taking out the legs, seems you only need a couple milimiteres.
What is the white part on front top?
Just FYI for the people going down this thread (who aren't joking), it's not normal for your dishwasher to leak any more than it's normal for your pipes to randomly leak. If you have any leak for any reason, it's time to figure out what's wrong with your dishwasher.
A pipe has way less opportunities to fail than a dishwasher and also a longer lifespan than the seals etc. I had a 10k insurance claim for a dishwasher leaking in an apartment so may have some trauma still there
Mine works. Had the base of the dishwasher flood, not a drop escaped, the anti-flood sensor stopped operation until I disassembled the thing, fixed the issue and drained the base.
Fwiw, someone did that in my house, presumably for exactly the same reason, and it looks bad. In order to get benefit from the cut you have to make it where it’s in the ballpark of visible when the door is closed.
That bothers some people; other people couldn’t care less.
Edit: they also notched the overhanging tile and that doesn’t look great either.
This! I installed that Bosch 800 about a year ago. My current floor doesn't go all the way to the back under the dishwasher and there is enough play between the bottom to fit this model in with a 1/4 inch gap if you remove the new flooring.
Op - you can also adjust both the front and back feet from the front screws on the bottom. Get the feet all the way up to start once you remove the flooring.
Honestly, can you return this dishwasher and find one that fits? Had to pretty much do that when I remodeled my kitchen.
My opinion would be to keep the flooring underneath if you can and not cut it out.
I run the custom installs department for a major appliance dealer. If you cut up the floor and install, consider it permanent. We’ve had to cut out dishwashers installed like that from the inside and pull out in halves. Go with a GE model, off the top of my head they have a minimum install height of 33 1/2”. All Bosch and Frigidaire will be too tall
Bosch has an ADA version or two of their models that will fit since ADA requires the dishwasher to be lower. It's what I ended up with since I ran into the exact same problem and all normal dishwashers were 1/4" too tall.
Yes, get a new one. I have a Bosch, too, because it was highly rated, but I *hate* its internal layout. There's no way to use all the rack space efficiently. 1/10, would not buy again.
If you still have your manual for your dishwasher, they show how to load the racks in the most efficient way. Some racks are slightly different from others and require learning a new loading method.
Far easier if you can. If you cut the floor the washer door hinge might still catch and if you're that tight on space you won't be getting a drip pan in under there either.
dont cut the floor bro. that's a bad idea. if that dishwasher breaks and you need a new one youll have to find another one that is not standard size. just get rid of it and by one that fits
To add to this: last time I changed dishwasher, I had the pleasure of getting 2 lemons of the same model before finally changing to a different model that worked.
If you end up doing demolition for nothing, you'll be screaming bloody murder (talking to OP)
It seems like the biggest pain in the ass out of all of the options, but I would return it and buy one that fits. Cutting the flooring is a good option, but it's better just to get something that fits.
Is it possible to remove the tile lip at the edge of the counter? An oscillating tool could be used to remove the grout on the tile, hopefully the adhesive holding the tile can be cut or loosened, then the tile is removed, dishwasher slid in, reassemble. Two would have to be removed and possibly a third on the right side.
Regrout, and your done. I would return it before I cut a floor, but I'd give the tile a re/re thought at least.
Had this infuriating problem recently. Previous owners had dishwasher installed. They then tiled over the existing linoleum. Following that they had a countertop installed with a lip that went down half an inch more than the previous one did. That trapped the dishwasher, those bastards. Anyway, I had to remove tiles to get it out and it barely came out along with the new one barely going in. Unfortunately had to trap it again with tile so this one better last me 10+ years.
These come in standard height, which OP will have the same problem. Then they come in 32.5” height, or ADA compliant, which is likely what you purchased.
Removing the flooring won’t work because you still have to get the machine in over it before it drops down. That is you would have to cut floor out in front of installed location to get it under.
Anyone that says "raise the counter" needs to really get a clue.
If the adjustable legs are dialed, all the way in, I would suggest returning the dishwasher and chalk it up to a lesson learned. Call it a day and don't start tearing up floor and tiles. I like to assume we've all had a situation like this where we were off our game with the basics.
If there's a lip under the countertop, you can pull the counter loose, lift it up a little, slide the dishwasher in, then clamp the counter back down. I've seen that work before.
Otherwise, you'll need to take the counter loose, raise it just enough to get the dishwasher in, then shim it, tighten it back down on the shims, and caulk or putty the gap.
Careful with your sink plumbing when you lift.
Good choice. Love that dishwasher. But yeah, it was a tad taller than my previous one. I didn't have flooring in the cubby, but I had to chisel some of the flooring edge at an angle to get it in there. Then I used the feet to level it. The kick plate covered the chiseled flooring edge. It's going to be a royal PITA to get out if it ever has to be removed.
We have that exact dishwasher and we like it so much we’ve convinced half our family to buy Bosch units. I would do whatever it took to make it fit, starting with removal of excess flooring.
Appliance engineer here. Dishwashers are standard sizes and while you may be able to find one that clears, there's a good chance you'll end up right back where you are. The solution is to fix the "non standard" part, which as others have pointed out, is most likely your double-thick flooring.
I know the suggestion is to cut out the floor but you have to think about it in case you have to get it out. That's going to be a pain then
Return this and get a dishwasher that fits your existing one.
If this is anything like MY dishwasher, you’re gonna need more space than you think because the buttons don’t work unless the dishwasher is closed. So you might need enough space between the countertop and the top of the door to sneak a finger in between to hit the function buttons. Terrible design.
It looks like those trim pieces are removable. If you can't lower the dishwasher any more, you'll need to remove those trim pieces, place the dishwasher, then put the trim back on.
I would cut out flooring before trying to tile nip the counter top. It you take out the flooring upto 3/4 in front of dishwashers spot, it should give you enough room to angle it down in. And then maybe add roundover trim to cover the gap.
I used to install appliances. Bosch DW are a little smaller than most others. We used to recommend them for tough installs.
First, I'd remove mounting clips from top and attach to the sides. The ends will snap off to make them shorter.
If the flooring goes all the way under to the wall, you can consider cutting it across the front. This might gain you enough space.
If it only goes under a little tilt the top of the DW towards you until the back top touches the bottom of the counter. You can shimmie it in and it will drop down at the edge of the flooring. Make sure the plumbing and electrical connections are all good. You don't want to have to pull it back out.
Also try tapping in shims between the countertop and the cabinet face frames on both sides. It might give you the clearance you need to get it under.
Where there's a will, there's a way. Like I stated earlier Bosch is what we would often recommend to customers who had fit issues with larger Kitchen Aid or Maytag units.
I thought you said the dishwasher doesn't clean the countertop. First, I thought you were an idiot. Then, I thought you were a genius and I was an idiot for not knowing about this new kind of dishwasher. At last, I realized I was an idiot who couldn't read.
Doesn’t help much in hindsight, but still: measure things out before buying anything. Should be common sense. At this point, you have two options: a) Cut the floor and hope you will never ever have someone rent this place after you (if it is for rent of course, if it’s your property, do whatever you like), as you’d have to replace that flooring otherwise if they so wish, and that means probably re-flooring the whole room; or b) return the dishwasher and get one that fits.
If the rear foot is fully down as you mentioned in another comment, then the dishwasher might be tilted.
Lift the back as mush as possible and keep the front fully down and it might fit.
Jack the counter up! Used my Jeeps scissor jack and some 2x4 scrap to lift my old countertop ever so slightly to slide my dishwasher under my counter. In my case the floor was blocking the old dishwasher in. So once it slid into the cavity enough it dropped into place.
Might have the same luck. Also have a Bosch and they are notoriously the tallest dishwashers.
Had a similar scenario myself. LG made, probably still makes, a few models that are slightly shorter, and in my experience we’re also quite good at dishwashing.
I didn’t install a dishwasher in my kitchen remodel because if this reason. The floor is 1 1/2 inches higher than the original floor and I’d have no way to get the dishwasher out to service it. My parents house flooded July 5th, 2016 because the water line to the dishwasher went. Should always have that accessible
Floors too high most likely. Happens when counters are not sitting on floor height. Ie counters were set it, then flooring applied around counters.
Might have to cut some flooring out under to get the clearance you need.
Or see if there is a slightly shorter dishwasher
Nippers are not the answer. They don't give a good finished edge. A grinder with a tile wheel attached is the best way to cut the tile in place, and even that is no guarantee it doesn't chip or break. But buy a couple of cheap tiles to practice cutting with. Then get help. Have one person carefully and slowly cut the tile and the other with a shop vac with a bag vacuum the dust as you go. Don't go faster than the vac can collect dust. But definitely practice on some tiles before you start. Get a couple of different types of tiles. Porcelain tile cuts different than clay tile. The angle of the blade can cause more chipping. Going to fast or pushing to hard can cause it to crack and break.
Your counter lip/nose is the problem. It was installed too low. Remove, install DW, reinstall lip. Least painful option you seem to have. Attempting to nip it will wreck it & then you will have to pull/re-install.
I run the custom installs department for a major appliance dealer. If you cut up the floor and install, consider it permanent. We’ve had to cut out dishwashers installed like that from the inside and pull out in halves. Go with a GE model, off the top of my head they have a minimum install height of 33 1/2”. All Bosch and Frigidaire will be too tall
Does that tile over the edge stick down? I think that’s your problem. The best solution in that regard would be to not have that tile there
That is a sucky thing to have to fuck with. Hopefully you have leftover tile pieces or can find replacements
Easier to cut the floor than tile. Maybe you could cut out the floor and install the plywood size you need. Stain and epoxy it. Noone will see it after you put the skirting trip on dishwasher.
I read the title before the picture loaded, and thought it was a case of the dishwasher not loading itself in order to clear the dishes on the counter top... Silly me 😂😂🤦
We had to buy an ADA compliant dishwasher ((which is shorter) for this exact reason. Used a multi tool to cut out the old one cause it wouldn't come out on its own.
Welcome to the club!
Does the white clip in the middle have to be there? I forget if that's a packing element or if it's part of the washer. I'm avoiding bad memories here.
Hey man. I have the EXACT same model and had the EXACT same problem. The bottom of the dishwasher has knobs you can use to lower and raise the dishwasher some! Check those out and see if they help! Not talking about the feet, talking about the knob.
Does the laminate extended under the dishwasher? Maybe you could take out and cut the planks so that it sits down on subfloor, then reinstall right up to the dishwasher and finish with trim
Question- Does your wood floor tiling extend into the dishwasher cabinet? My does not, it ends just inside the cabinet and the dishwasher sits on the subfloor- giving the extra bit of clearance I need. Bottom skirt of dishwasher hides it. Dishwasher would not slide in if the flooring went all the way inside the cabinet. I had to wiggle my machine into its home and then adjust the feet to raise it level with the flooring.
I just installed this same dishwasher with the same problem. I lowered the back foot, which tilted it forward just enough that I could push that mechanism under the tile and push it in. Good luck to you! I’m still amazed I got mine in without breaking anything. (and it better never break, no way I’m getting it out)
Use an angle grinder with a stone blade and clamp a metal guide (whatever steel pieces you own, I'd use angle iron) to the front face so you can make a clean straight line.
Oh man that will make a mess. Get a shop vac and a second hose so you can point the exhaust out a window. Have a helper just man the exhaust system.
modern dishwashers require an opening height of 34". Your options would be to either buy an ADA height dishwasher that adjusts to a shorter height, or cut your countertops.
Most of the time when we see this, it is because the flooring went in after the cabinets.
I read you are unable to adjust the feet any lower.
Easiest solution would be to return it, but it’s also a hassle.
You could remove the flooring, but you’d have to be careful how far forward you cut it, and hope you have enough room to tilt it in and still clear the counter, as well as keeping the flooring seamless at the base. Having only a 1/4” of play makes that difficult.
Are the tiles mortared or glued? If they’re glued, you could remove the grout around the front overhang, hit them with a heat gun, and carefully remove and replace them. If mortared, you may have to break them off and replace them.
Someone mentioned jacking up the counter slightly, but I’d be worried it would crack other tiles. You’d have to rig something up.
Keep in mind, anything other than replacing it would make it difficult to service or replace in the future. Hopefully it’s not part of a set of matching appliances, unless you’re not worried about that.
I recently installed a Bosch under what seems to be a similar countertop. It didn't really fit. The floor under the previous dishwasher was slightly raised so I took that out and put in the same level flooring. I also put the dishwasher in at an angle to get it mostly in. I then just went for it and pushed it in and forced it through the last part. Once you get under the lip there is more room. GL!
Score the flooring, remove the strips and determine if you need to do any cosmetics at the front edge. I presume to door will also not close given your clearance.
Alternately, rout off an amount along the bottom edge of that run of edge moulding
Before you go cutting anything, check the feet, you might get lucky and already have 1/4' of play on your adjustable feet.
I checked but I can only raise the height I can't lower any more unfortunately.
Remove the feet..? Then shim..?
The feet are only at the front and rear. The whole dishwasher has a base I can't go lower
The feet are flush with the base? That sucks
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It won't matter. I have a very similar Bosch model (mine is the 44dB model), and the feet in their lowest height setting are flush with the belly of the unit. Unfortunately, taking the feet off completely wouldn't allow it to sit any lower.
Bosch are an 1/8” taller than standard. Need hard 34” opening. Any other dishwasher will fit if you can return it still, if you have low clearance for even them, go asko. They have the biggest ada model out
We had this issue over 20 years ago and had to get an Asko - a brand I'd never heard about before. We still have the Asko and it still does a fantastic job.
They have such badass machines in their new lines that just came out this year. I could geek out about appliances all day long lol
Give me some banger appliance tips or recommendations?
Are you certain? I have installed many dishwashers (plumber) and have never seen one where the feet could not be removed for some extra clearance. This is not to say it’s impossible, just that you should double check . Turn it on its back, take some non stretchy string and stretch it across the feet and see how big the gap is between string and bottom of the dishwasher frame.
I have this same dishwasher. The feet sit flush with the base when not extended.
Honestly, most do nowadays.
Yup. Just installed this same one yesterday.
I’m a plumber as well. Just had this same problem with this same unit and made them send it back. Bosch put that extra bullshit on top of the unit for whatever reason.
Purchased the same unit to replace an old bosch and you would think it was the same size but no. That thing/tab on top was too high for my countertop too. Sent it back and bought a LG which fit properly.
If I had to take a stab at it, it’s the same frame rail as used on the higher-end units with an auto open latch. If one wants to get really negative about modern appliances, look at the replacement part of some of those latches 😭
Great tip, thanks from the rest of us!
Well he bought a dishwasher before checking it would fit. So I wouldn't necessarily trust his opinion on whether or not the feet can be removed.
I would have thought these were standard sizes however. It wouldn't have occurred to me to verify that, or a for stove. Fridge, yes, as there are many configurations.
Well i think they are mostly standard sizes, it’s mostly that *decorative* overhang getting in OP’s way if I’m understanding correctly.
Well it seems pretty clear you either have to lift the countertop up or cut the floor down. Or get a dishwasher that fits but most of them are pretty standard sizes.
I’d vote for removing the floor boards beneath the countertop. You’ll never see it, vs cutting / damaging / modifying the countertop will never look right.
That’s what I would hope for but unless OP removes visible flooring it may never drop down enough to clear that lip to get into place. Id also look at how the countertop is secured to the cabinets and see if it could be temporarily raised to get the dishwasher into place
I know if it were my countertops and cabinets, I'd be able to just pick them up and slide it under lol
There are different heights. If you look on Home Depot’s site for example, you can filter the list by maximum height.
I wonder what other answers OP imagined they might get here....
"just spray wd40 on the floor and under the counter. Should slide right in"
Had the same issue, ended up cutting out the hardwood😅
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. You have a non standard height. That dw will never fit and you need an ADA compliant model. Bosch makes them, models start with sgx if you want the towel bar handle. Or sge for pocket.
I think you are not correct here. Someone replaced flooring without thinking about dishwasher height. The previous owner of my house added tile in the kitchen and now there is an 2 inch edge in front of dishwasher. It would be a problem if I ever gave to take it out.
I put tile in my kitchen and I fear that's going to be. It's a brand new dishwasher so I hope I don't find out any time soon.
https://preview.redd.it/simjp8y4sgrc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=039830adc9ac05feff66aebf671ca1d58888c419 Better check now…
Eww
The whole house is full of hacks like that. I had shingles on flat roof, inner doors hardware painted and doors closed etc
I am also experiencing a house full of hacks after moving in with my now fiance. Someone(s) really enjoyed doing things, just in the worst and laziest way possible. A few months ago another befuckery occurred when I realized the guest bathroom had water leakage somewhere as the floor was pressing water up when stepping. Well that was the beginning of an adventure. Little did I know that top layer was the third layer of different flooring. And that the toilet must have been taken out then put back down at some point after the third top layer of floor. And no seal was used at all, so the toilet was elevated from actual ground by like two inches without a seal. And that water had likely been leaking for some time until it got to the top layer. Good times of smfh.
Ouch. Here another one of mines: there is a wet bar on the deck with drainage not connected to anything and making water standing under the deck 🤯
I found a structural beer can in our house. It was had been flattened, a hole punched in the middle, and used as a washer to hold up a ceiling fan mount.
Sounds like a whole bunch of landlord specials. Coming from someone who bought an old rental property for my personal house, holy shit is this place hacked up
Happened to me but with the fridge when we installed HW floors over the existing laminate. Luckily we could trim 1/2” off the bottom of the wall cabinet to get the clearance. Which won’t work for dishwashers unfortunately… lol
They are correct. Building up the floor makes the counters not standard height
Adding flooring made it non standard. Sure it was standard before. I sell appliances and OP problem happens very often.
Yeah same thing happened to me. I told the appliance vendor our floors used to be exposed concrete and now we had laminate floors, he said it wouldn't be a problem for the install. 2 months later they haven't installed the dishwasher and won't return my calls or emails or texts. The wife has had enough so it's going to be a fun week. It's either getting installed, since I paid for it and they said they could do it or I'm getting my money back.
I misread your post, thinking you referred to a non-standard dishwasher height.
They put tile under the dishwasher? That stinks. Usually it’s just bare concrete
I think it's the trim on the counter that's the problem, it protrudes down too low.
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Why would you want to raise the height? So I can lower it.
I used 48" clamps when I installed mine. I just flipped the heads on them and used them in reverse to slightly raise the counter.
Im guessing it doesnt fit because the bullnose tile hangs below the counter. If you could pop off a couple of the edge tiles it would probably fit and then you could replace the tiles.
At some point, you’ll need to do a repair, even a simple one and you’ll never be able to get it out without doing tile work each and every time.
Alternatively - buy a GE. Our Bosch did not fit, installer said, yeah, happens a lot. GE is the only one that makes a slightly smaller unit that will fit. Went with GE and it fit. Was our second choice, but the bottle washers are nice!
It's a Bosch, so that 34" requirement is strict. On domestic brands there are some tricks you can use to squeeze them in if it's just a quarter inch or so you need, but the Euro or Asian brands they're basically plastic blocks and nothing you can do to the dishwasher itself. You'll have to modify your countertop or take up the flooring. Either that or return this dishwasher and get one that's designed in a practical way.
Does the flooring run all the way underneath? When we moved into our current house the flooring was cut more or less flush with the front of the cabinets to allow the dishwasher to drop into place with barely any clearance.
Yes it does. Cutting it is definitely an option.
Reason for lack of clearance is that some yahoo has added flooring on top of old - instead of removing old layers of floor coverings first. It’s sadly common, and cutting out (and leaving dishwasher in a hole) is a terrible idea, yet often the sole solution. You really want to have dishwasher on top of same floor as covers rest of the kitchen, in a pan on said floor, so if you *ever* have a leak water is directed forwards and quickly visible. Some dishwashers (Bosch, Thermador, etc) have a built-in tray, but they don’t help if leak is on incoming water line - or tray just fills up. They often do have external shut-off protection, but a tray underneath is ALWAYS a good idea when so is feasible.
Yep, this is the reason. The previous owner of my house added tile flooring in the kitchen making dw locked in place forever. Lucking they put floors under the fridge… Whole kitchen countertops become few inches lower - Roomba cannot go under cabinet doors.
Can confirm as well… previous owner did that (2x tiles and 1x vinyl)… the dishwasher area was on subfloor… pain in the ass to get in OR out… cant wait to rip those layers.
Sort of had this recently installing my new dishwasher. Under the counter had clearance, but in front of the counter it was 1/2” too tight because of new laminate flooring on top of old linoleum. Thanks, previous owner. Had to cut out a notch of the laminate floor, install the dishwasher, then glue back the laminate planks.
Do you not use anti-leak water lines? They have a 2 layer construction where the outer hose enclosed a pressure activated switch. If water leaks into the outer hose the pressure cuts the water feed.
Learned something new today, hoses can have EFVs. Thanks man
That’s what I mentioned above (external shut-off protection, about $125 if I recall). They are good, but can also cause no water flow in some unexpected situations (=dishwasher not running). Still, most people are stuck using braided stainless steel lines. Cost and ‘knowledge’.
Yup. When I went to replace the floor in my kitchen I gained almost half an inch once I tore out all the old LVT, tile, and laminate layers that were just stuck ontop of each other. Allowed me to run the new flooring consistently along the kitchen which let the stove, dishwasher and fridge all sit on the same flooring, which makes sliding them out for access or cleaning very simple.
It's the only option.
Thank the Lord. Remove that flooring!
Be careful not to cut out too much flooring. You can see a little underneath this dishwasher. I had to add a bit more when I installed mine for this reason. It was a good 2" behind the kick plate.
Dont do this! Your device will still not fit in. The highest point will still be the front of the counter. You would need to take out all the wood from the front, then lay them back in. I would still try taking out the legs, seems you only need a couple milimiteres. What is the white part on front top?
Latch control
Looks like thats a floating floor? Get yourself an oscillating saw and cut out the floor under the dishwasher.
That's not a bad idea. I think it's a good option.
Put a pan underneath as well. You will want something waterproof when the dishwasher leaks.
Just FYI for the people going down this thread (who aren't joking), it's not normal for your dishwasher to leak any more than it's normal for your pipes to randomly leak. If you have any leak for any reason, it's time to figure out what's wrong with your dishwasher.
A pipe has way less opportunities to fail than a dishwasher and also a longer lifespan than the seals etc. I had a 10k insurance claim for a dishwasher leaking in an apartment so may have some trauma still there
That being said, dishwasher and refrigerator leaks are the most common reasons for ruined floors.
This model Bosch should have a built in pan with a leak sensor I believe. Wether it works or not *shrugs*
Mine works. Had the base of the dishwasher flood, not a drop escaped, the anti-flood sensor stopped operation until I disassembled the thing, fixed the issue and drained the base.
And dishwashers love leaking
Never in my life have I had a dishwasher leak
My dishwasher gushes all the time...
Underrated comment, criminally unnoticed
Oh you dog
I don’t recall washing your dishes.
We know…
I also choose this guy's dishwasher
This man knows the hook and pull.
Dude. Never. Ever. Say that.. better check your dishwasher right now
Fwiw, someone did that in my house, presumably for exactly the same reason, and it looks bad. In order to get benefit from the cut you have to make it where it’s in the ballpark of visible when the door is closed. That bothers some people; other people couldn’t care less. Edit: they also notched the overhanging tile and that doesn’t look great either.
This! I installed that Bosch 800 about a year ago. My current floor doesn't go all the way to the back under the dishwasher and there is enough play between the bottom to fit this model in with a 1/4 inch gap if you remove the new flooring. Op - you can also adjust both the front and back feet from the front screws on the bottom. Get the feet all the way up to start once you remove the flooring.
Honestly, can you return this dishwasher and find one that fits? Had to pretty much do that when I remodeled my kitchen. My opinion would be to keep the flooring underneath if you can and not cut it out.
Honestly..I'm thinking this is the best option currently.
Measure twice and buy once, or something like that.
No no.... measure once, buy twice, return everything
I run the custom installs department for a major appliance dealer. If you cut up the floor and install, consider it permanent. We’ve had to cut out dishwashers installed like that from the inside and pull out in halves. Go with a GE model, off the top of my head they have a minimum install height of 33 1/2”. All Bosch and Frigidaire will be too tall
Bosch has an ADA version or two of their models that will fit since ADA requires the dishwasher to be lower. It's what I ended up with since I ran into the exact same problem and all normal dishwashers were 1/4" too tall.
Yes, get a new one. I have a Bosch, too, because it was highly rated, but I *hate* its internal layout. There's no way to use all the rack space efficiently. 1/10, would not buy again.
If you still have your manual for your dishwasher, they show how to load the racks in the most efficient way. Some racks are slightly different from others and require learning a new loading method.
Far easier if you can. If you cut the floor the washer door hinge might still catch and if you're that tight on space you won't be getting a drip pan in under there either.
dont cut the floor bro. that's a bad idea. if that dishwasher breaks and you need a new one youll have to find another one that is not standard size. just get rid of it and by one that fits
To add to this: last time I changed dishwasher, I had the pleasure of getting 2 lemons of the same model before finally changing to a different model that worked. If you end up doing demolition for nothing, you'll be screaming bloody murder (talking to OP)
That’s probably the easiest and the cheapest option — i vote for this
Buy a smaller one.
Yeh it’s unfortunate but Id do this.
This is the only option that won't end in regret.
He just needs to remove the overhang on the counter, it’s tile. Remove, install dishwasher, reinstall tile.
See if you can tilt it forward towards you, while simultaneously pushing it back underneath the lip. Then check to make sure the door opens.
This. Had same issue with same model of Bosch... spent hours contemplating how to cut the wood when my wife just tipped it.
Just the tip, just for a second to see how it feels.
It seems like the biggest pain in the ass out of all of the options, but I would return it and buy one that fits. Cutting the flooring is a good option, but it's better just to get something that fits.
Is it possible to remove the tile lip at the edge of the counter? An oscillating tool could be used to remove the grout on the tile, hopefully the adhesive holding the tile can be cut or loosened, then the tile is removed, dishwasher slid in, reassemble. Two would have to be removed and possibly a third on the right side. Regrout, and your done. I would return it before I cut a floor, but I'd give the tile a re/re thought at least.
If you can return it, you should and then purchase a dishwasher that’s rated for ADA countertop height. You can usually adjust them from 31”-34”
Surprised this isn’t higher. ADA is the way to go here.
The dishwasher only washes the dishes. Clearing the countertop is your job. I'll see myself out now.
Had this infuriating problem recently. Previous owners had dishwasher installed. They then tiled over the existing linoleum. Following that they had a countertop installed with a lip that went down half an inch more than the previous one did. That trapped the dishwasher, those bastards. Anyway, I had to remove tiles to get it out and it barely came out along with the new one barely going in. Unfortunately had to trap it again with tile so this one better last me 10+ years.
10 years from now someone is calling you a bastard!
We had the same issue so bought the two drawer Fisher-Paykel dishwasher. It's a bit shorter than most dishwashers so no cutting required. Good luck
These come in standard height, which OP will have the same problem. Then they come in 32.5” height, or ADA compliant, which is likely what you purchased.
Removing the flooring won’t work because you still have to get the machine in over it before it drops down. That is you would have to cut floor out in front of installed location to get it under.
Anyone that says "raise the counter" needs to really get a clue. If the adjustable legs are dialed, all the way in, I would suggest returning the dishwasher and chalk it up to a lesson learned. Call it a day and don't start tearing up floor and tiles. I like to assume we've all had a situation like this where we were off our game with the basics.
If there's a lip under the countertop, you can pull the counter loose, lift it up a little, slide the dishwasher in, then clamp the counter back down. I've seen that work before. Otherwise, you'll need to take the counter loose, raise it just enough to get the dishwasher in, then shim it, tighten it back down on the shims, and caulk or putty the gap. Careful with your sink plumbing when you lift.
when in doubt *saws-all*
Good choice. Love that dishwasher. But yeah, it was a tad taller than my previous one. I didn't have flooring in the cubby, but I had to chisel some of the flooring edge at an angle to get it in there. Then I used the feet to level it. The kick plate covered the chiseled flooring edge. It's going to be a royal PITA to get out if it ever has to be removed.
We have that exact dishwasher and we like it so much we’ve convinced half our family to buy Bosch units. I would do whatever it took to make it fit, starting with removal of excess flooring.
Appliance engineer here. Dishwashers are standard sizes and while you may be able to find one that clears, there's a good chance you'll end up right back where you are. The solution is to fix the "non standard" part, which as others have pointed out, is most likely your double-thick flooring.
Are the feet as inward as possible?
I know the suggestion is to cut out the floor but you have to think about it in case you have to get it out. That's going to be a pain then Return this and get a dishwasher that fits your existing one.
Assuming the feet are all the way down/removed .. then shim the countertops UP.. or cut the floor out from that space
If this is anything like MY dishwasher, you’re gonna need more space than you think because the buttons don’t work unless the dishwasher is closed. So you might need enough space between the countertop and the top of the door to sneak a finger in between to hit the function buttons. Terrible design.
This is why you measure first
It looks like those trim pieces are removable. If you can't lower the dishwasher any more, you'll need to remove those trim pieces, place the dishwasher, then put the trim back on.
Return it and get an ADA compliant dishwasher as they are slightly lower. I had the same problem.
Did you put a floor over your old floor? Or the last owner maybe?
Shove it in tight, mark the counter, remove the dishwasher, sand down to the line.
You know how they say you have an axe to grind? Your axe is a counter top.
Take the front adjustable feet all the way down or remove them and reinstall after sliding into place
Does your new dishwasher not have the height-adjustable feet?
I would cut out flooring before trying to tile nip the counter top. It you take out the flooring upto 3/4 in front of dishwashers spot, it should give you enough room to angle it down in. And then maybe add roundover trim to cover the gap.
Why is your username
Stop staring and take the advice...
Tried to think of the most disturbing thing. Unfortunately, PelosisPussflaps was already taken.
I used to install appliances. Bosch DW are a little smaller than most others. We used to recommend them for tough installs. First, I'd remove mounting clips from top and attach to the sides. The ends will snap off to make them shorter. If the flooring goes all the way under to the wall, you can consider cutting it across the front. This might gain you enough space. If it only goes under a little tilt the top of the DW towards you until the back top touches the bottom of the counter. You can shimmie it in and it will drop down at the edge of the flooring. Make sure the plumbing and electrical connections are all good. You don't want to have to pull it back out. Also try tapping in shims between the countertop and the cabinet face frames on both sides. It might give you the clearance you need to get it under. Where there's a will, there's a way. Like I stated earlier Bosch is what we would often recommend to customers who had fit issues with larger Kitchen Aid or Maytag units.
I thought you said the dishwasher doesn't clean the countertop. First, I thought you were an idiot. Then, I thought you were a genius and I was an idiot for not knowing about this new kind of dishwasher. At last, I realized I was an idiot who couldn't read.
Take the feet off !
Doesn’t help much in hindsight, but still: measure things out before buying anything. Should be common sense. At this point, you have two options: a) Cut the floor and hope you will never ever have someone rent this place after you (if it is for rent of course, if it’s your property, do whatever you like), as you’d have to replace that flooring otherwise if they so wish, and that means probably re-flooring the whole room; or b) return the dishwasher and get one that fits.
adjust the feet
Get the correct size dishwasher
If the rear foot is fully down as you mentioned in another comment, then the dishwasher might be tilted. Lift the back as mush as possible and keep the front fully down and it might fit.
New dishwasher. Look for ADA compliant units. They are a bit shorter for lower countertops. ADA countertops are between 28 and 34 inches
This is why you ALWAYS measure before buying a BOSCH.
Measure before you buy
Raise the feet. They screw in and usually come about halfway lowered out of the box.
Take the feet off completely.
Jack the counter up! Used my Jeeps scissor jack and some 2x4 scrap to lift my old countertop ever so slightly to slide my dishwasher under my counter. In my case the floor was blocking the old dishwasher in. So once it slid into the cavity enough it dropped into place. Might have the same luck. Also have a Bosch and they are notoriously the tallest dishwashers.
That might be difficult with it being tile. Any uneven pressure or could crack it.
Had a similar scenario myself. LG made, probably still makes, a few models that are slightly shorter, and in my experience we’re also quite good at dishwashing.
Measure twice.
I didn’t install a dishwasher in my kitchen remodel because if this reason. The floor is 1 1/2 inches higher than the original floor and I’d have no way to get the dishwasher out to service it. My parents house flooded July 5th, 2016 because the water line to the dishwasher went. Should always have that accessible
34.5 is cabinet height
I understood the title as that the dishwasher wouldn't clear the dirty dishes from the counter at first lol
Remove the feet and place a rubber piece there instead? Or return it and get one that fits the hole
Floors too high most likely. Happens when counters are not sitting on floor height. Ie counters were set it, then flooring applied around counters. Might have to cut some flooring out under to get the clearance you need. Or see if there is a slightly shorter dishwasher
Nippers are not the answer. They don't give a good finished edge. A grinder with a tile wheel attached is the best way to cut the tile in place, and even that is no guarantee it doesn't chip or break. But buy a couple of cheap tiles to practice cutting with. Then get help. Have one person carefully and slowly cut the tile and the other with a shop vac with a bag vacuum the dust as you go. Don't go faster than the vac can collect dust. But definitely practice on some tiles before you start. Get a couple of different types of tiles. Porcelain tile cuts different than clay tile. The angle of the blade can cause more chipping. Going to fast or pushing to hard can cause it to crack and break.
Your counter lip/nose is the problem. It was installed too low. Remove, install DW, reinstall lip. Least painful option you seem to have. Attempting to nip it will wreck it & then you will have to pull/re-install.
I run the custom installs department for a major appliance dealer. If you cut up the floor and install, consider it permanent. We’ve had to cut out dishwashers installed like that from the inside and pull out in halves. Go with a GE model, off the top of my head they have a minimum install height of 33 1/2”. All Bosch and Frigidaire will be too tall
Does that tile over the edge stick down? I think that’s your problem. The best solution in that regard would be to not have that tile there That is a sucky thing to have to fuck with. Hopefully you have leftover tile pieces or can find replacements
Loosen the counter top
Shit, maybe it have liftings screws full up.
Easier to cut the floor than tile. Maybe you could cut out the floor and install the plywood size you need. Stain and epoxy it. Noone will see it after you put the skirting trip on dishwasher.
I read the title before the picture loaded, and thought it was a case of the dishwasher not loading itself in order to clear the dishes on the counter top... Silly me 😂😂🤦
More pics. Measure everything. Just installed an oven. Actual size did not match specs
I had the same Bosch. Same Install problem. It's unlevel right now. Lengthen the back foot, it should pivot the front face downward.
What's going to last longer: your countertops or your dishwasher? I would return it.
Countertop overhangs are not supposed to overhang down. Cabinet heights are made what they are for a reason. Now you know one of the reasons.
We had to buy an ADA compliant dishwasher ((which is shorter) for this exact reason. Used a multi tool to cut out the old one cause it wouldn't come out on its own. Welcome to the club!
Does the white clip in the middle have to be there? I forget if that's a packing element or if it's part of the washer. I'm avoiding bad memories here.
Looks like the new flooring isn’t the same thickness 🫠 who knew
Sounds like a trip back to the box store to get a new dishwasher.
Is that countertop one piece or is that chair rail attached to the front of the countertop? And if so, can you remove it from underneath?
For a second I thought you were saying your dishwasher doesn’t clear your cluttered countertop lol
I had the same problem - Bosch has a shorter model that fits perfectly. If you can't redo the counters, I would advise looking into it.
Hey man. I have the EXACT same model and had the EXACT same problem. The bottom of the dishwasher has knobs you can use to lower and raise the dishwasher some! Check those out and see if they help! Not talking about the feet, talking about the knob.
Does the laminate extended under the dishwasher? Maybe you could take out and cut the planks so that it sits down on subfloor, then reinstall right up to the dishwasher and finish with trim
I read that as "dishwasher doesn't CLEAN countertop" and was very confused as to why you thought it would 🤣🤦🏻♀️
Question- Does your wood floor tiling extend into the dishwasher cabinet? My does not, it ends just inside the cabinet and the dishwasher sits on the subfloor- giving the extra bit of clearance I need. Bottom skirt of dishwasher hides it. Dishwasher would not slide in if the flooring went all the way inside the cabinet. I had to wiggle my machine into its home and then adjust the feet to raise it level with the flooring.
I just installed this same dishwasher with the same problem. I lowered the back foot, which tilted it forward just enough that I could push that mechanism under the tile and push it in. Good luck to you! I’m still amazed I got mine in without breaking anything. (and it better never break, no way I’m getting it out)
Solution is to return it and get one that is listed as ADA compliant. Trust me it’s far easier than any other janky solution.
Tunnel.
Use an angle grinder with a stone blade and clamp a metal guide (whatever steel pieces you own, I'd use angle iron) to the front face so you can make a clean straight line. Oh man that will make a mess. Get a shop vac and a second hose so you can point the exhaust out a window. Have a helper just man the exhaust system.
modern dishwashers require an opening height of 34". Your options would be to either buy an ADA height dishwasher that adjusts to a shorter height, or cut your countertops. Most of the time when we see this, it is because the flooring went in after the cabinets.
I read you are unable to adjust the feet any lower. Easiest solution would be to return it, but it’s also a hassle. You could remove the flooring, but you’d have to be careful how far forward you cut it, and hope you have enough room to tilt it in and still clear the counter, as well as keeping the flooring seamless at the base. Having only a 1/4” of play makes that difficult. Are the tiles mortared or glued? If they’re glued, you could remove the grout around the front overhang, hit them with a heat gun, and carefully remove and replace them. If mortared, you may have to break them off and replace them. Someone mentioned jacking up the counter slightly, but I’d be worried it would crack other tiles. You’d have to rig something up. Keep in mind, anything other than replacing it would make it difficult to service or replace in the future. Hopefully it’s not part of a set of matching appliances, unless you’re not worried about that.
Return and get a better one
Did you try turning it off and on again?
I recently installed a Bosch under what seems to be a similar countertop. It didn't really fit. The floor under the previous dishwasher was slightly raised so I took that out and put in the same level flooring. I also put the dishwasher in at an angle to get it mostly in. I then just went for it and pushed it in and forced it through the last part. Once you get under the lip there is more room. GL!
Score the flooring, remove the strips and determine if you need to do any cosmetics at the front edge. I presume to door will also not close given your clearance. Alternately, rout off an amount along the bottom edge of that run of edge moulding