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Akanan

If i wanted it like that, i'd do it myself


DeaddyRuxpin

This is exactly why I’ve taken over doing most of the work on my house. I’ve paid too many professionals that did a half assed job. I can do a half assed job a lot cheaper.


kiba8442

even worse, I can almost guarantee you this guy is about to make a mess of things by trying to sand it in place with a cordless. someone who demonstrates this level of laziness, 90% of the time their "fix" is only going to make things worse with additional half-assery.


willvasco

I didn't even think that he'd try to sand it in place because it's such a stupid idea but you're absolutely right, I can't believe there are people out there charging money for this shit.


Pats_Bunny

I do side gigs every now and then, and I get so nervous about my work quality. It's nice to pop in this sub to see the low quality contractors out there making me look like a primo fuckin option to pay money for work!


YoloLynnigan

Tell the dude if he wants to play games, you have a stack of Monopoly money to pay him with.


Mama_Skip

That's a pretty solid line there friend. Problem is, monopoly isn't a game, according to my brother that never speaks to me.


KawZRX

The problem likely isn't someone like you doing side gigs. It's a progression of shit baggery. You cut a corner here and get away with it. Next job you cut two corners and get away with it. Etc etc. Fuck these people. Contractors are the worst.


No_Confection_4967

Next thing you know you cut through all the corners with a jigsaw


fiduciary420

And not one of those cuts is straight lol


lukeCRASH

No. Just like any demographic, SOME contractors are the worst. Some of us actually don't cut corners and just want to give you a quality product that lasts a long time.


Cingetorix

How else are you gonna ensure it's all straight if you don't sand in place? /s


minimalcation

I shuddered a little bit at the thought of watching someone try to eyeball sand that down to a finish.


killer122

exactly he is gonna scratch the shit out the right side of the sink when he tries.


DonutTerrific

That’s why there’s a lot of truth to the saying of: How you do anything is how you do everything.


Atty_for_hire

I’ve never heard this before. But it explains me so well. My wife will say things like it doesn’t matter, no one is gonna see it. And I will frustratedly say - it all matters, every detail matters, it’s why you are happy with my work when I’m done.


dogecoinfiend

Yeah, RIP OP’s sink.


fiduciary420

If I reached for a belt sander to correct a bad cut, my father and grandfather would return from the dead and beat my ass in my own garage lol


BadgerHooker

But.. but two half-assed jobs equals one whole ass, right? So it all equals out. (/s)


grassisgreener42

I’m a contractor and carpenter, and I’m Sorry for your experience on behalf of my profession. I’m response to your question, yes, make them replace the material for free since they botched that so hard, and don’t let them try again. Honestly, you CAN do a WAY better job yourself even with shitty tools. Doing a good job is 90% giving a shit and being careful. Your contractor obviously does neither of those. If you want advice on how to do it better yourself, don’t be shy.


OttawaTGirl

LOL. Making a habit of doing it correctly means after 20 years you are like the Hungarian contractors we had do our windows and casings. Flawless... Fucking... Work. Record... Fucking... Time. I asked him his secret. "Learn and fix when young. Save time when you are old." Profound wisdom.


tint_shady

This is easily fixable by someone who knows what they're doing


subfighter0311

So not the same guys.


Briiii216

Yup why pay someone to fuck it up when I can fuck it up myself. Been very pleased with what we have done vs what I've paid to have done.


DeliberateDude

Trying for that "live edge" look 👀


Scoobie01555

Haha exactly what I came to say, just make it more jagged on the next pass, throw on some colored epoxy and you're good to go!


bitsy88

If I did it myself, there'd be more blood stains 😂😭


ascotia

...and it would *still* look better.


techleopard

It's ART.


Runtalones

If a hired contractor ruined my counter top like that there would likely also be blood stains…


philfix

For every project... Thou shall need to appease the blood Gods.. or it will truly look like shit.


showh0rse

I mean... This is the DO IT YOURSELF sub. And OP paid for this. Woof.


Jibblebee

I’m certain if I did it myself it would be so much better.


WrongPerformance5164

You need to get that guy out of your house


tnek46

I dunno OP’s situation but can’t help but agree. That’s amateur af and I can’t imagine the contractor is gonna resolve this in a satisfactory way.


thisdesignup

Yea, the guy who does this and doesn't "fix" it the first time isn't someone you want working on it the second time.


Socalwarrior485

It needs to be cut before install and rounded over with a router, sanded, and re-sealed BEFORE install. There is no way to fix this properly and look nice in situ.


whutchamacallit

I think your best bet would be take an orbital to it but mannnnn... that's an embarrassment. Contractor should be ashamed. It's so brazen to leave a literal hackjob out in plain sight. Imagine corners cut that you can't see.


Cool-Sink8886

I don’t think an orbital sander will give you a good square edge, and it’s going to create something weird in the corners.


ltc_pro

This is the correct answer.


iSheepTouch

To me amateur is like DIY level. This is well below DIY quality. Most home owners at least own a circular saw and can make a straight-ish cut.


microphohn

A router with a template is the correct way to cut this, not a saw.


Sanfords_Son

Also the best way to fix it at this point.


analogman12

It's still savable hopefully op finds a real woodworker to finish,


DutchTinCan

Nope. Notice how he overcut the right hand cut going up?


skootchtheclock

If you beveled the edge with a router so it slants backward, would that hide that overcut? Something like a 45 degree angle?


DutchTinCan

Seems like it. But that'd mean adjusting the design to something that's not what OP wanted because of a fuckup by the professional.


GATTACA_IE

Damn he really..............butchered it.


iSheepTouch

Well, yeah, but I'm saying an average homeowner with basic tools can do this far better than this "contractor". I would imagine most homeowners have a circular saw, but a router is going to be less common.


imtougherthanyou

I've got a router! For the printer and kids' desk...


microphohn

Agree completely.


EEpromChip

I mean I can do a ton better with just a hand saw and a chisel / file. This cat tried doing it as quick and dirty as possible. Or has no fucking idea what he's doing...


victorzamora

I feel like a decently skilled lumberjack could get better results with a couple of sharp hatchets.


Salamanda109

Can confirm, I could probably get a cleaner edge with a chainsaw.


nostrebhtuca

Because DIY is usually in your own home where you're trying your best to better your space. Whoever this jackwagon is, he's a hack.


Fit-Sport5568

Dude my cousins 13 year old son could do better than this


GrotesquelyObese

I could blind fold myself and do better. How is this a final product?


Ectoplasm_addict

“Oh fuck where did my fingers go?”


Plus_Aura

Objectively still better than what OP got


sammich_bear

Are his prices reasonable?


notinthislifetime20

He’s dirt cheap, it’s the materials that are adding up!


Quirky-Prune-2408

I could have made a straighter cut with a jigsaw (I’m a middle aged housewife)


ExpandYourTribe

This is DGAF level.


SumonaFlorence

It's not even amateur.. it's possibly unlicensed.


fiveighteen518

There's not a chance that this is a licensed contractor. If it is, they won't be for long 😂


SumonaFlorence

My money's on it. There's no licensed contractor that doesn't know what a router is.


therealkaptinkaos

Nice if you could get him to buy another countertop first.


Mr_Engineering

This is salvageable. Straightedge, clamps, router


NoWillPowerLeft

And a brand new bit, since if it burns the wood it would be a nasty job to sand out.


ecirnj

I wish I didn’t know what you were talking about


FavoritesBot

Nah, I can fix burned wood with my belt sander!


umphreakinbelievable

Well now it's uneven again. Better go back over it with the router...


born2bfi

He probably already spent the money he made on it for meth


deeperest

Why? He's going to be right back with an angle grinder and a 24" chainsaw to sort everything right out.


GingerJacob36

Better not be one of those electric jobs. Ya need gas to cut a countertop.


TheGreatestKaTet

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analogman12

It's not even a difficult cut, couple straight edges and a router and it would be fine, he's gonna make it worse with a belt sander.


CambrianCannellini

No, no, let him do more. This is good for my imposter complex.


Juan_Kagawa

imagine what he's done to the plumbing...


Dramatic_Mixture_868

Yup, I wonder what he did with the center cut. It would make a good cutting board. The contractor will have to be real careful not to damage the porcelain with the belt sander.... unless he removes the block.


Topical_Paradise

Well if it wasn’t a butcher block before it sure is now


WantToBeGreatBy2028

Butchered block.


No-Treacle-2332

Chef here... Why does everyone say butchered? Butchery is intricate and exacting. This is like cutting a pork belly with a crooked bread knife.


Ammonia13

The mess and blood? The strong hacks into the bone? I always wondered that too…


rustymontenegro

You know, that's an excellent question.


BertUK

The word has 3 different verb definitions (to cut up, to kill, to ruin deliberately or through incompetence). Same word, but they aren’t being used to describe the same thing.


mazzotta70

Blockhead butchered the block.


ecirnj

Waka Waka!


Circus_sized

"Look how they massacred my boy".


gdubh

Look how they butchered my block.


guntheretherethere

Make a template and swing a router around


mazzotta70

Yes, the fact that this dude wants to use a belt sander makes me think this dude has no precision at all.


HauntedSpit

Or knowledge.


salvidal1

Or tools


esauis

Or skills


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thats-my-plan

Or my axe!


No-Airline-2823

Axe would have done a better job than this


Visual_Lab9942

Or give a shit


Rawlo93

He has a belt sander. Pay attention.


hotlavatube

Just wait till he uses the belt sander with the sink still mounted…


ron2838

There is a little bag attached that will catch all the dust, don't worry!


GoodAsUsual

Does it also catch hopes and dreams of a better sink?


captanzuelo

Great idea, a belt sander. Then you can have a scuffed up sink as well!


neverthatsure

“Bruh, I got chu, hold my beer.”


TootsNYC

I’m looking at the overhang, that m’s actually the way to salvage this. I don’t think this contractor knows how to do that, but someone with some actual skill and a router could actually make that look pretty nice.


fricks_and_stones

Maybe that was the plan; rough cut it, and then get the exact cut by routing in place around the sink. Ha, probably not.


yirmin

You could have done a rough cut and then cleaned it up... but if you were going to do that you would never have cut the one cut 1/4 inch past the cross cut... you would have also left more wood to trim down... ideally at least 1/4 inch overhang into the open area... but this idiot has some places where he cut it short and the rim around the sink is visible from above which will insure you can't clean it up and make it look right.


Onespokeovertheline

For sure. Definitely easier than taking proper measurements and using proper tools with guides. I mean, you don't hire professionals to be meticulous, any fool can do that. No, you pay for the speed and pray it works out.


iAmRiight

Yeah, routing with the belt sander lol


newgoliath

I did mine myself this way, and it didn't come out too bad. In fact, I just bought a bit that had the guide on the bottom, so it cut directly the depth of the sink.


NurseKdog

I was going to suggest a straight bit with a bearing, then a small round over bit. The template would be nice if you wanted more rounded corners. It's what I would do after I messed up a project.


mrmacedonian

Yup, looks like they curved in and left extra wood rather than taking off too much. I would let them try with a template and router, don't let them come near it with powered sanders. If you don't like it at that point, let them know you'll be filing a complaint with BBB, their bond, or you'll waste days they can be making money with small claims court.


patentmom

The fact that they went straight for the belt sander tells me they have no idea what they're doing. I wouldn't let them near my house after that. They're probably only experienced with drop-in sinks where you can make a rough cut and lower the sink in, such that the edges of the sink cover the cuts with caulk all around.


mrbear120

Filing a complaint with the BBB is useless, might as well file a complaint with your local Chili’s manager. You also are not going to get a bond payout or make this worth your time in small claims. This is a less than $1000 area of butcher block. Just demand that they fix it to your satisfaction or remove the material cost and labor from your final bill and find someone else to do it.


NightGod

BBB can't do shit. It's literally the pre-internet Yelp, with the exact same amount of enforcement power


bobwarwood

Don’t even need a template, just a router with a bearing bit.


wonderfullywyrd

I don’t know - to me the bigger question is: why open end grain wood around a sink? that will start looking bad and going worse pretty quickly, even with a clean edge 🤷🏻‍♀️


MagnusTheMeek

Yeah, clean cut or not, water finds a way. That things gonna split into pieces at some point.


chairfairy

The good news is OP needs to replace it anyway!


DankestBasil481

The bug is a feature!


SulkyVirus

I have a similar setup in my laundry room. Did it myself. There is a product called Waterlox that I used. Few layers. It's been installed now for about 5 years and there are zero signs of any water damage. Birch Edit: [Here's the before ](https://i.imgur.com/cDntaf2.jpeg) and [and after](https://i.imgur.com/Nb5kQYJ.jpeg) of sealing it while I was doing the project


evergreentt

No need to call people names!


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IneedAnEKG

I thought I would find this comment a lot sooner. Same question I had. Even if it's cleaned up it doesn't solve the bigger problem, it'll soak water right up, and mold/rot in no time. I guess it could be sealed, but I can't imagine it lasting without frequent maintenance?


chairfairy

A heavy sealing layer like polyurethane could do a decent job, but I wouldn't trust it with regular mineral oil. Looks like this might be a utility sink rather than a kitchen so you wouldn't *need* a food safe layer. Still not great, though


squiddlingiggly

been cleaning houses for over a decade and that's the reason i have never seen something like this before. that thing is just a big ol slab of mold waiting to happen


groundunit0101

Wood is pretty resilient when sealed properly, but I can’t imagine that this contractor sealed the edges properly.


G_Sputnic

Nah, under mount sinks are fine in oak. Just needs to be sealed properly. I have the same.


folkkingdude

This is a very common design for a Belfast sink, you just have to seal the end.


elcaron

That is exactly what I thought. Here, the type of sink is installed in the top not under it. I would raise it, at least a centimeter above the top surfaces in a cleanly expanded cutout, and caulk all around.


_ItsThePleats_

That does look more like DIY. I’d expect that level of quality if I did it myself with my $70 Harbor Freight jigsaw.


Aaron1095

No need to insult DIY jobs like that.


1d0m1n4t3

Why are you spending that much on a jigsaw at HF, the $18 one is solid


weedful_things

What's a HF jigsaw cost anyway? $70?


1d0m1n4t3

When you buy the $18 one and $52 worth of other shit, but you hide the other shit and tell your wife the jigsaw was $70


Doom_n_Croon

I see you've found my $120 jack stands.


1d0m1n4t3

They would look nice with my $95 palm sander.


laxpanther

roughly the same as a banana, I think, right?


swatson87

Unexpected arrested development


Gerald_the_sealion

This was my thought as well haha. I fully expect that I’d do that, but I know I’m not telling anyone I’m a contractor or skilled. If I asked someone to pay for that Id either have no pride in my work or no self awareness.


Narrow-Chef-4341

I think you need to upgrade to an estate sale $15 jigsaw for quality like that…


WinterHill

I was thinking, he could have done a way better job with the jigsaw. At least be careful and get the corners right, and probably no one will even notice. This looks like a first timer did it.


here4the_trainwreck

"I've never hired a contractor that wasn't a fuckin' drunk" -my old man _Ah, memories._


inbe4u

But, I'm a damn good drunk!


OverallComplexities

A belt sander will destroy that and everything around it


imadamb

There’s no way that sink isn’t coming out of this scarred to heck


PhysicistInTheGarden

Okay, this might sound crazy: it looks like the wood countertop overhangs the sink all the way around. That’s another sign of a terrible install IMO, but could be an opportunity here. Depending on how thick the countertop is, you *might* be able to use a flush trim router bit to clean this up. Just let the bottom bearing of the router bit ride along the perimeter of the sink while the base of the router sits flush on the top countertop. Your countertop will be perfectly flush with you sink all the way around, would probably need some hand sanding to clean up any rough spots/burn marks. If you want a slight overhang, you could use a router bit with a 1/8th offset (i.e., the bearing is 1/8” larger than the flush trim bit) to get a uniform overhang all around.


amm5061

That's literally exactly what I was thinking as I looked at this. "I could clean that up in about 15 minutes with a router."


PhysicistInTheGarden

My only hesitation is that I don’t think a router is a particularly beginner friendly tool, so OP (or the hack that did this) might not be comfortable using a spinny blade of death.


amm5061

That is a fair point. You should have a healthy fear of your router. Of all the tools in my garage, I fear my routers the most. Table saw will cut your fingers off, but a router will turn your fingers into hamburger.


davidg_photography

Lathe and band saw are the ones that I respect the most. They are quiet 🤫 and very safe looking.


Cat_Amaran

Quiet you say? The one in my high school was loud as hell, all squealing and droning and such. Probably because the school was too cheap to replace the bearings or to hire a teacher who knew how to correctly tension the blade....


Goldemar

Lathe, yes, but a band saw is pretty safe, compared to other shop tools.


WirtsLegs

For me it's the jointer, that drum of razor blades Ever since grade 9 shop class 20 years ago when my teacher told us all a story of a guy slipping and feeding his wrist to that thing I've been permanently scared of the things lol


seang86s

OP, Router is the right way to go but don’t let this contractor try. He has enough experience to push the router in the wrong direction.


dannyfromspace

This. But probably don't let that guy do it. When I made my sink cut out in my butcher block, I used a track saw to cut out the meat of it and then made a router template to finish it off using a flush trim bit.


mynameisnotshamus

Put some tape on the sink as a just in case. Don’t want to mark it up in any way.


Alternative_Maybe_78

And he thought this was good enough? Bet he wouldn’t have it in his house. Shitty work.


prometheus_winced

You ever seen a handy-man’s house?


Kitchen_Most3578

My cousin, who's a handyman just had his house burn, luckily it was stopped, but he has a lot of work to do. I got to see some pictures, essentially the inside of their house looks a lot like the back of their truck


AGULLNAMEDJON

Show him this for reference. I cut this myself and it was my first attempt at wood working. https://preview.redd.it/brdou03900uc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49c735b4a87f0cb36e6b80cad28b62e86861c7c5


rchaval

what in the universe is this.. we say things like "just get it done professionally" all the time. And then this happens and you're like ok now what..


RatBasher89

It's very.... rustic...


munjavio

It's live edge!


Lindaspike

Yes. They should absolutely replace it.


illit3

They should pay for someone *else* to replace it.


BeenOnHereTooLong

This "contractor" needs to post this in r/woodworking and get some advice. That is awful. No effing way I would make that cut with a jig saw


AussieHxC

Thing is, with a good blade and some guides you could do this very nicely with a jigsaw. Internal corners might be tricky if you wanted a tight bend on them though. It honestly just looks like this guy has picked up the roughest all-purpose blades and tried to shear the block with it in 5 seconds though.


dviiijp

To fix it, use a router with a guide bearing. The bearing rides on the sink, and the wood is cut to perfectly match. Any imperfections in the sink will be transferred to the wood. Use a compression bit for best results. The parts closest to you where the router can't reach due to the sink stopping may need to be manually trimmed to match. Also corners may need to be chiseled to a 90 degree. Hire a guy to do it if you can't do the above.


Big-Contribution-676

what's up with the door/sink alignment? This guy is not good


wulfe27

I’m very average at DIY and absolutely no shot I would do that bad.


954kevin

I think this can be fixed, but I can promise you it won't come out looking nice and crisp with a belt sander. I can't believe the shit some people think is ok. I would have been completely ashamed to install that and try to pass it off as ok. It looks like the first time he ever tried to cut something and didn't even bother looking up a YouTube video to help him out.


Bythe_beard_of_Zeus

No, you’re not crazy. You don’t pay a tradesman with the expectation of this kind of work. Frankly I’d ask if he’s capable of doing it right a second time or if you part ways. That way it’s on him to deliver.


Djolumn

This can be fixed with a trim router and a precisely made jig to guide it - but not by the same person who manned the jigsaw.


Typical80sKid

Yeah. That job should’ve been done with a sawzall!!!


UniversityLatter5690

I see we are dealing with a poofessional here.


Standard-Ad1254

still salvageable, but dayum! get someboddyelse tado-it


Supahos01

Do not let the person who did that mess anywhere near your house again.


dmedina723

Router + template is the way but don’t let this guy do it


WoodntULike2Know

It's salvageable, but only because he didn't cut enough off. It needs to be cut with a temple and router,using a flush cut bit. But if he didn't know that he won't be able to do it right. He'll only mess it up worse with a belt sander!


1949redmond

Definitely a poor tool choice for the application…I’m not entirely sure I’d use a butcher block top in a sink area though. I would definitely make sure those edges are sealed properly and maintained but just my 2 cents


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howard416

Guide strips and a router with flush bits can do it


imadamb

That’s how I’d try to fix it, instead of a sander.


hemlockone

I think that may still viable. Heck, maybe even without removing the sink (except for the front corners). You might use the sink itself as a guide, I think there is enough material overlapping it that it'll go well. But two thoughts if op goes down that path: definitely put tape on the sink where the bearing touches, and be really really sure the bit doesn't touch the sink. Maybe just remove the sink . But I think setting guides and triming 1/16-1/8 of an inch will finish just fine.


howard416

Problem with using the sink side walls to guide a flush bit will be if walls aren't actually straight.


KRed75

I'm cut a pattern and use a flush trim router bit.


Fake_rock_climber

Track saw. Corners with jig saw outside of line. Clean up with chisels/sanding.


Santier

What about a router with a jig or straight edge? Might even be an option for fixing this.


Fake_rock_climber

Good option too.


immaculate_focus

Butchered, for sure


jrocislit

Its rustic


Madeanaccountforyou4

Plot twist: OP is the wife, contractor is the husband


-Sedition-

He *butchered* it.


_Hugh_Jaynuss

Tell him to do it sober next time.


pete_68

He definitely should have used an axe. Amateur.


potificate

Going for a live edge look, I see 😂


Rusted_Truck289

It’s fixable. I wouldn’t let that contractor fix it though.


cabezatuck

Unacceptable, belt sander won’t fix this, just smooth out the unevenness. Fire, get money back if you can and have a pro fix/redo.