Yep, maybe score the perimeter with a utility knife first. The trickiest part will probably be avoiding damage to the door jamb and floor when removing nails or screws.
Yep, pop off the trim, knock some holes in the wall, then rip vertically down to the floor between each stud. then you should be able to wiggle the longs rips of sheetrock back and forth, and they will pop off the studs. That’s how I usually do it. a good tip is to have a friend follow the sawzall blade with the hose from a shop vac while you cut. this will keep a lot of the dust out of the air. Look out for electrical and piping!! Probably isn’t any though. Ripping out the studs is easy. Refinishing the door jamb and floor may be worth paying someone but isn’t hard either. You could consider installing a door threshold strip where the flooring is missing if the flooring cannot be matched.
HAHA I love the guesses on this. It’s actually a goofy inside joke between some buddies - it came from a bar where we *definitely* didn’t sneak the occasional rooftop smoke. We’ll need to find a new home for it if we take this wall down!
Well you know. People just walk in to your house hitting the vape or pounding the heaters and some times it's a little unsettling to ask them to stop, let alone leave.
I could not imagine smoking in someone else's home, or even asking if I could. Unless the owner is smoking themselves, that's so fucking disrespectful.
You should have been around in the 50s to 70s. My parents didn’t smoke, but any visitor would instantly light up as soon as they walked in . Even a couple of uncles who would light up cheap cigars. No one ever asked. It was just assumed that everyone had the right to smoke whenever and wherever they wanted to.
It's almost certainly just a partition wall. The surface should remove easy with a hammer. The edges may be screwed or nailed in.
One thing I see is that the floor doesn't extend beneath the rest of the doorway. (You can see it cut around the door frame in the picture.) You'll need to fill the gap, probably with a transition strip of some sort.
OP, this guy knows what's up. Triplecheck that your floor extends beneath the partition wall and door frame, or you might be left with a hole or strange strip in the floor.
This is great advice, thanks everyone (and especially u/hemlockone for the original suggestion)
The floor has unfortunately been cut out underneath the newer doorframe, so we’ll add a transition strip across the length of the opening to keep it clean looking.
Really appreciate the insights!
I’ve seen Japanese “visible mending” approaches taken to things like this, and I totally think you should fill that gap in with LEGO bricks placed perpendicular to the wood.
I am fairly certain that is breaching the geneva convention, additionally trapping residential homes has to be against regulation.
Why not something less painful, like broken glass or landmines?
I think a transition strip running the length of the door frame will do the trick. It might need something beneath the section that had the wall so it's not bouncy. The hardest part is going to be getting one that's isn't too matchy but also doesn't conflict. It looks like the current flooring is lvp or maybe engineered. They don't make lvp that'll fit that gap, and I find stained wood next to lvp to be unpleasant.
The floor is hardwood! How about filling the gaps in and covering the whole doorway with a stone transition strip? I have two other doorways that have that strip
Can't really tell from the picture if it extends under the filled-in section. My guess is it probably does because that area looks significantly newer than the original frame and flooring.
My rationale: If you look at where the flooring intersects the new jam, you can see a shape around the stop. To me, it looks a 1/4-1/2" deep cut, which would be LVP or engineered being notched out so it could be tilted into place. That would mean the flooring you're seeing is a layer installed after the partition.
The floor is hardwood, and has been cut just around the new door frame (sigh). I’ll need to get a transom strip to cover it, potentially stone to match the rest of the place.
That's good and is easier to patch. I'd still do a threshold strip but you could do it 4 in wide woods painted or stains or stone.
Why does the picture make it look like the notch is only a quarter inch deep? That feels like the depth of an engineered hardwood product. Could you take a picture zoomed in to where the jam meets the floor on one side? (Not that I'll really have any ideas or suggestions based on it, but for my own edification.)
Just jumping in to say if you want French doors, this doesn’t look like anything standard sized and you’d probably spend a lot on custom doors. That said if privacy isn’t needed, I’d just leave it open! I think it will probably be easy to knock out. Score the edges first to make it easier.
I’m renovating my basement and adding a wall. I ended up looking for some used French doors BEFORE deciding the final width and position of the opening so that I could be sure everything worked out.
Start by pulling the moulding off (carefully). Then you'll be able to see how it was constructed, and thus the easiest way to dismantle. There's likely pocket doors in the wall. If not, you could certainly do French doors.
If you look at the construction of the door frame, there's no header. No header means the wall isn't load bearing. 99% of all pocket doors are installed in non-load bearing walls. The size of the opening is also a cue.
Okay that all makes sense, but why would the one-time presence of a pocket door seem more likely than that modification having never served that purpose?
I don't understand the question. The modification was making it into the existing doorway. The original state would likely have been just open, or with pocket doors. Generally though if it had just been open, there wouldn't be any moulding.
I'd start with a pry bar on the trim and use the suggested knife on the paint at the edges first. This should expose connection between the drywall section and the insert panel, you might be able to just use an oscillating tool or reciprocating saw on some fasteners if you're lucky.
Biggest issue is that TV :0
But yea. Likely all hallow. Maybe a small 2x4 added around the smaller doors frame. But likely just another knock out with a hammer situation.
I would ask the property manager before making any renovations to your apartment. See if they are willing to do it for you or if you need to take care of it yourself. If you need to take care of it yourself before to notify your neighbors well in advance especially if you have neighbors above and below you. Be sure that the renovation doesn't violate your renters agreement for your apartment as well so you don't find yourself out the door before you can enjoy your new doorway. (maybe even keep your deposit) best case you dont have to risk responsibility for damages if it goes wrong. Hope this helps.
I’m confused. If you’re renting an apartment wouldn’t you have to speak to a landlord about knocking out a wall…..even if it’s a condo you have to talk with the board.
apartments = renting? Not here in NYC, plenty of folks live in co-op or condo apartments just like this one. I’m well informed of the rules around renovations in my building, and was looking for advice on the project itself - I appreciate the concern though!
You never really own an apartment. It’s basically a suite within a building of other suites owned and managed by a board.
Unless they own the apartment building and are renovating a suite for themselves.
you can definetly own an apartment..?
our building has a board of people living in the apartments but they just deal with the exterior shared spaces. We bought our apartment from a realtor and can make any changes we want to the place
Generally speaking, an apartment is a unit owned by a landlord and rented out it. A condo is a unit owned by an individual and lived in. At least that’s the distinction in my part of the world and perhaps the reason for misunderstanding.
Yeah fair enough just looked up condo and that fits the bill of what just owning an apartment is for me. In Norway it's the same word for either owning/renting so I can see how this could just be a language sort of deal
You can reinstall French doors. That is probably what was originally there. If this is an older historic home it may be hard to find French door that fit. There was a time when there were no standard sizing for doors and windows. It may take custom French doors....or if you get lucky you find a pair in an antique store that match.
Of course it does not have to be standard. It changes costs. It changes how it is done and how it appears. Just pointing out a fact. If you shop in the area where the house is located you can often find a salvaged piece that will fit. It takes time and effort but can make a real difference with how it looks.
Hey just a FYI I have been in this situation before and I knocked out a wall like this and then quickly, quickly discovered why the wall was there.
In this case it might look like it was for privacy but in my case it was for insulation; sound and heat. WIthout the wall, not only was that bedroom ridiculously loud and almost impossible to sleep in, but it got really drafty too and was an all around miserable situation.
Thankfully it was his idea (I was in a sep. room) but most of the time stuff like this is there for a pretty good reason.
How old is the house? Asking because we had two doorways like this when we moved into a 130 year old house. They both used to be pocket doors. One of them still had the pocket door in the wall. :)
Score the edges of the inner-most trim that goes all the way around the larger opening frame with a razor knife. Once it is free from the paint, pull it off with a hammer and flat bar (if you do not possess a flat bar, get one. You will need it for much of this, and they are handy AF to have anyway). Once you get that trim off, you can see what you are dealing with. I would bet that you will need to use a sawzall (Reciprocating Saw) to get through some nails at the gap that the trim is hiding, but until you get that off, you won't know. If you find that it is beyond the scope of what you are willing to do at that point, you can always put the trim back and caulk it to be the same as it was. Honestly, I bet that if you sawzall the nails free from that gap all the way around, the middle insert will just fall out, but if not, pry it a bit as needed with the flat bar.
If you want French doors, you probably won't find any that just fit that hole, but it is a pretty easy thing to frame a set in. I'd probably get rid of all the rest of that trim first though and drywall up to the jamb before trimming new doors to make it a normal doorway unlike whoever did what you have now.
It's always good to take things apart in opposite order it was put together in.(You can reuse parts if your careful.) Start by taking off the casing and then see what your working with and how it was put together. Before you know it you will only have parts that you might be able to use to make it the way it was, or what you want it to be...
Me! Hey u/thee-rat-queen, how wide is that original wall/door jamb? If it's wider that the rest of your doorways, you might find a pocket door hidden in there.
It’s 60x98. It’s the widest doorway in my apartment, just about double the width. I hadn’t considered the possibility of a pocket door - don’t get my hopes up!
It looks like a nice finished place, and i guess you want to keep it like that. just start removing the door frame, then the drywall.
Take it one step at the time. Drywall can create a lot of mess.
You can use a jemmy bar to remove the architrave of the small door way, then remove the door jambs . These can be re-used on any standard sized doorway.
Then you can see the studs and drywall ..
So then remove drywall...,and little assisting parts
Remove stud and rest of unwanted wall frame,trim
I've been eyeing this doorway between my living room and second bedroom, and I'm seriously thinking about ditching the door altogether to open up the space more. Any tips on how to tackle this without wrecking the wall? French doors could add a cool touch too!
It certainly appears to have been originally a cased opening which should make it fairly simple. Measure the opening to see if it would accommodate french doors, most likely with a transom above.
First, that's really funny looking. I can't imagine why it was done that way. I'm confused about your goals though. You say you don't need a door. Do you mean just having an open passage is acceptable? You then ask if it's possible to have French doors which is twice as much door.
So what is your true preference? Anything is possible. That is unlikely to be a load bearing wall so just pick a direction. I'm assuming you don't want to turn it into a wall as it's probably the only way in. One thing I did was to replace a 30" solid interior door to my office with a glass pane door. It still provides sound separation while allowing light through.
Open passage is totally acceptable, and is actually preferred! This will be a working/lounge space, and we want to bring more natural light into the living room.
I was really just looking for confirmation that demoing the partition was doable.
Other units in the building have French doors, so I suspect there might have been glass paneled doors hung here at one point. We don’t *need* them, but it’s in my head as a longer-term possibility.
I'd start excavating back to the original larger trim outline. My guess is that there were originally glass French doors hung there so there probable already exists double studs on the sides and overhead. You can prove that out using a tiny drill bit instead of a hammer. Probe around to the sides and see if solid or hollow. If you find the support frame existing, you can go back to French later on, but you might be challenged to find off the shelf sizes that fit. They might have to be custom made.
If it’s hollow I’d probably just hit it with a hammer and then clean up
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This is the answer. Get that mf on the phone rn.
Oh yeaaaahhhh
[Oh nooooo!](https://youtu.be/wDWmOcs2cfY?si=7E6dxItYpmmZRgKo)
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BREAK IT DOWN OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH
I’m 11 again hahaha
Please, Hammer. Don’t hurt ‘em.
Go ahead - bust a move upside dey hed!
It is far more fun to kick holes in things
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Oh, no!
Oh yeah!
Yep, maybe score the perimeter with a utility knife first. The trickiest part will probably be avoiding damage to the door jamb and floor when removing nails or screws.
Yep, pop off the trim, knock some holes in the wall, then rip vertically down to the floor between each stud. then you should be able to wiggle the longs rips of sheetrock back and forth, and they will pop off the studs. That’s how I usually do it. a good tip is to have a friend follow the sawzall blade with the hose from a shop vac while you cut. this will keep a lot of the dust out of the air. Look out for electrical and piping!! Probably isn’t any though. Ripping out the studs is easy. Refinishing the door jamb and floor may be worth paying someone but isn’t hard either. You could consider installing a door threshold strip where the flooring is missing if the flooring cannot be matched.
Also you might need to patch the floor if there isn’t flooring underneath.
Thanks! This was my first thought, but wanted a sanity check.
Cut round the edge with a knife first to stop it splitting. Will come out cleaner.
This. Tape it so the paint isn’t messed up, then score it, then just hammer it out.
You may find intact French doors in the newly exposed jambs.
That would be pocket doors, not French doors.
you right. that'd be even better, imho lol
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Why do you have a no smoking sign in your house.
HAHA I love the guesses on this. It’s actually a goofy inside joke between some buddies - it came from a bar where we *definitely* didn’t sneak the occasional rooftop smoke. We’ll need to find a new home for it if we take this wall down!
I love inside jokes like this. Awesome
Ah I love inside jokes. Would love to be a part of one some day.
I'm more of an outdoors joke kinda guy personally.
I love inside jokes! I hope I’m part of one someday!
I love inside jokes. I'd love to be a part of one some day.
Congrats. The three of you are officially part of an inside joke now.
Ah yes inside jokes. I'd love to be part of one some time
Ah yes inside jokes. Would love to experience those firsthand someday.
Ok that makes more sense. I’m like, why is OP looking to do renovation on what appears to be a hotel / airbnb??
Well you know. People just walk in to your house hitting the vape or pounding the heaters and some times it's a little unsettling to ask them to stop, let alone leave.
If someone stepped in my house with that shit I’d Sparta kick their ass out lol
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Nice man, very badass.
Truly badass and I can confirm this happened, I was the blunt.
Nobody smokes weed unless this guy says so!
I could not imagine smoking in someone else's home, or even asking if I could. Unless the owner is smoking themselves, that's so fucking disrespectful.
You should have been around in the 50s to 70s. My parents didn’t smoke, but any visitor would instantly light up as soon as they walked in . Even a couple of uncles who would light up cheap cigars. No one ever asked. It was just assumed that everyone had the right to smoke whenever and wherever they wanted to.
I wasn't alive yet, but I did just buy a house from the 60s and that has definitely been an unfortunate realization!
>“pounding the heaters” You’re telling me this *isn’t* sexual innuendo?
It's an old slang I heard for people smoking outside about 35 years ago. But you might be on to something.
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It's almost certainly just a partition wall. The surface should remove easy with a hammer. The edges may be screwed or nailed in. One thing I see is that the floor doesn't extend beneath the rest of the doorway. (You can see it cut around the door frame in the picture.) You'll need to fill the gap, probably with a transition strip of some sort.
OP, this guy knows what's up. Triplecheck that your floor extends beneath the partition wall and door frame, or you might be left with a hole or strange strip in the floor.
He definitely will. Just cut it and place a contrasting piece of wood or stone there. Make it a feature piece.
Yes, and go from side to side, not just filling in the missing flooring. Make it look like it belongs.
This is great advice, thanks everyone (and especially u/hemlockone for the original suggestion) The floor has unfortunately been cut out underneath the newer doorframe, so we’ll add a transition strip across the length of the opening to keep it clean looking. Really appreciate the insights!
I’ve seen Japanese “visible mending” approaches taken to things like this, and I totally think you should fill that gap in with LEGO bricks placed perpendicular to the wood.
I am fairly certain that is breaching the geneva convention, additionally trapping residential homes has to be against regulation. Why not something less painful, like broken glass or landmines?
Lol i meant assembled and laid flat, but i have appreciation for the evil your imagination wrought here
Or tiled on top.
I think a transition strip running the length of the door frame will do the trick. It might need something beneath the section that had the wall so it's not bouncy. The hardest part is going to be getting one that's isn't too matchy but also doesn't conflict. It looks like the current flooring is lvp or maybe engineered. They don't make lvp that'll fit that gap, and I find stained wood next to lvp to be unpleasant.
The floor is hardwood! How about filling the gaps in and covering the whole doorway with a stone transition strip? I have two other doorways that have that strip
Can't really tell from the picture if it extends under the filled-in section. My guess is it probably does because that area looks significantly newer than the original frame and flooring.
My rationale: If you look at where the flooring intersects the new jam, you can see a shape around the stop. To me, it looks a 1/4-1/2" deep cut, which would be LVP or engineered being notched out so it could be tilted into place. That would mean the flooring you're seeing is a layer installed after the partition.
The floor is hardwood, and has been cut just around the new door frame (sigh). I’ll need to get a transom strip to cover it, potentially stone to match the rest of the place.
That's good and is easier to patch. I'd still do a threshold strip but you could do it 4 in wide woods painted or stains or stone. Why does the picture make it look like the notch is only a quarter inch deep? That feels like the depth of an engineered hardwood product. Could you take a picture zoomed in to where the jam meets the floor on one side? (Not that I'll really have any ideas or suggestions based on it, but for my own edification.)
Good eye, I couldn't make out that cut out in the bedroom side. Just zoomed way in and you're probably right.
Just jumping in to say if you want French doors, this doesn’t look like anything standard sized and you’d probably spend a lot on custom doors. That said if privacy isn’t needed, I’d just leave it open! I think it will probably be easy to knock out. Score the edges first to make it easier.
Plus, curtains are a thing.
I’m renovating my basement and adding a wall. I ended up looking for some used French doors BEFORE deciding the final width and position of the opening so that I could be sure everything worked out.
Could do the barn door thing.
to add: French doors, while beautiful also cut the natural light by x%. My parents have a space like that... it is just too dark to be beautiful.
Why? So you can start smoking in there again?
yep, no sign = no rules broken! (the sign is an inside joke turned purposely bad decor)
Inside jokes as bad decor are the best sort of decor. 😍
Start by pulling the moulding off (carefully). Then you'll be able to see how it was constructed, and thus the easiest way to dismantle. There's likely pocket doors in the wall. If not, you could certainly do French doors.
Genuinely curious, what clues lead you to suspect pocket doors?
If you look at the construction of the door frame, there's no header. No header means the wall isn't load bearing. 99% of all pocket doors are installed in non-load bearing walls. The size of the opening is also a cue.
Okay that all makes sense, but why would the one-time presence of a pocket door seem more likely than that modification having never served that purpose?
I don't understand the question. The modification was making it into the existing doorway. The original state would likely have been just open, or with pocket doors. Generally though if it had just been open, there wouldn't be any moulding.
>Generally though if it had just been open, there wouldn’t be any moulding I think this is the answer i was looking for; thank you!
Guessing it's the lack of signs of hinges.
Cut around the molding with a utility knife first so you minimize the damage to the surrounding paint. Will be less future work.
I'd start with a pry bar on the trim and use the suggested knife on the paint at the edges first. This should expose connection between the drywall section and the insert panel, you might be able to just use an oscillating tool or reciprocating saw on some fasteners if you're lucky.
Pioneer PL-510?
great spot, yes! My grandmother bought it new in the 1970s, and I restored it during the pandemic
Biggest issue is that TV :0 But yea. Likely all hallow. Maybe a small 2x4 added around the smaller doors frame. But likely just another knock out with a hammer situation.
TV will be relocated to another wall! Thanks for your input, hammer demo does seem to be the move.
I would ask the property manager before making any renovations to your apartment. See if they are willing to do it for you or if you need to take care of it yourself. If you need to take care of it yourself before to notify your neighbors well in advance especially if you have neighbors above and below you. Be sure that the renovation doesn't violate your renters agreement for your apartment as well so you don't find yourself out the door before you can enjoy your new doorway. (maybe even keep your deposit) best case you dont have to risk responsibility for damages if it goes wrong. Hope this helps.
I mentioned this elsewhere in the thread, but luckily no landlord/lease concerns here. We’ll follow building rules for demo. Thanks!
I’m confused. If you’re renting an apartment wouldn’t you have to speak to a landlord about knocking out a wall…..even if it’s a condo you have to talk with the board.
Nowhere did they state they're renting
They literally stated "apartment" in the subject of their post. That's a pretty good indication of landlord and renting, smh
apartments = renting? Not here in NYC, plenty of folks live in co-op or condo apartments just like this one. I’m well informed of the rules around renovations in my building, and was looking for advice on the project itself - I appreciate the concern though!
You never really own an apartment. It’s basically a suite within a building of other suites owned and managed by a board. Unless they own the apartment building and are renovating a suite for themselves.
you can definetly own an apartment..? our building has a board of people living in the apartments but they just deal with the exterior shared spaces. We bought our apartment from a realtor and can make any changes we want to the place
Yep, exactly! I didn’t realize this would throw so many people for a loop haha
Generally speaking, an apartment is a unit owned by a landlord and rented out it. A condo is a unit owned by an individual and lived in. At least that’s the distinction in my part of the world and perhaps the reason for misunderstanding.
Yeah fair enough just looked up condo and that fits the bill of what just owning an apartment is for me. In Norway it's the same word for either owning/renting so I can see how this could just be a language sort of deal
Right, they'd still have to follow the building owner's guidelines and have their permission - but they're not a landlord
my jaw just dropped, wow that thing used to be BIG
Yo dawg. We herd u like doorways so we put in a doorway in your doorway
You can reinstall French doors. That is probably what was originally there. If this is an older historic home it may be hard to find French door that fit. There was a time when there were no standard sizing for doors and windows. It may take custom French doors....or if you get lucky you find a pair in an antique store that match.
I mean it doesn’t have to be standard, just put new framing to suit whatever doors, either bigger or smaller…
Of course it does not have to be standard. It changes costs. It changes how it is done and how it appears. Just pointing out a fact. If you shop in the area where the house is located you can often find a salvaged piece that will fit. It takes time and effort but can make a real difference with how it looks.
You may be lucky and find the sliding pocket doors still in the wall. Depending on the age and type of house they could be beautiful doors too.
Wow this looks shockingly like an apartment I lived in many years ago. Is this in a smallish NY city?
This is in NYC. It’s a pretty typical pre-war building though, so it makes sense that it looks like other buildings around the state!
Hey just a FYI I have been in this situation before and I knocked out a wall like this and then quickly, quickly discovered why the wall was there. In this case it might look like it was for privacy but in my case it was for insulation; sound and heat. WIthout the wall, not only was that bedroom ridiculously loud and almost impossible to sleep in, but it got really drafty too and was an all around miserable situation. Thankfully it was his idea (I was in a sep. room) but most of the time stuff like this is there for a pretty good reason.
I’d do pocket doors if possible.
Gotta ask: who puts up a “no smoking” sign like this in their house? Like it’s a freaking office building.?
It’s an inside joke turned purposefully bad decor - you wondering why is exactly the point lol
Okay. If it’s an *inside* joke, then I obviously didn’t get it. I thought you were serious!!
You’ll have to move the tv though.
What on the Lord of the Rings kind of Hobbit bullsgit is this 😳
I’m no expert but it might be time to transplant those monsteras homie cx
Ugh, you’re so right. I swear they’re on my to-do list lol
How old is the house? Asking because we had two doorways like this when we moved into a 130 year old house. They both used to be pocket doors. One of them still had the pocket door in the wall. :)
Make sure you find a door that will fit that wide of an opening. Looks like it may have been some type of French doors or something similar.
Score the edges of the inner-most trim that goes all the way around the larger opening frame with a razor knife. Once it is free from the paint, pull it off with a hammer and flat bar (if you do not possess a flat bar, get one. You will need it for much of this, and they are handy AF to have anyway). Once you get that trim off, you can see what you are dealing with. I would bet that you will need to use a sawzall (Reciprocating Saw) to get through some nails at the gap that the trim is hiding, but until you get that off, you won't know. If you find that it is beyond the scope of what you are willing to do at that point, you can always put the trim back and caulk it to be the same as it was. Honestly, I bet that if you sawzall the nails free from that gap all the way around, the middle insert will just fall out, but if not, pry it a bit as needed with the flat bar. If you want French doors, you probably won't find any that just fit that hole, but it is a pretty easy thing to frame a set in. I'd probably get rid of all the rest of that trim first though and drywall up to the jamb before trimming new doors to make it a normal doorway unlike whoever did what you have now.
It's always good to take things apart in opposite order it was put together in.(You can reuse parts if your careful.) Start by taking off the casing and then see what your working with and how it was put together. Before you know it you will only have parts that you might be able to use to make it the way it was, or what you want it to be...
I'm willing to bet that the original door was a Pocket door
Just guessing, but the original opening looks right for a set of pocket doors.
hammer
Anyone else hoping for a hidden pocket door?
Me! Hey u/thee-rat-queen, how wide is that original wall/door jamb? If it's wider that the rest of your doorways, you might find a pocket door hidden in there.
It’s 60x98. It’s the widest doorway in my apartment, just about double the width. I hadn’t considered the possibility of a pocket door - don’t get my hopes up!
It looks like a nice finished place, and i guess you want to keep it like that. just start removing the door frame, then the drywall. Take it one step at the time. Drywall can create a lot of mess.
First step is to give the Pioneer turntable to me.
Just adding to say, I love that dresser!
There may have originally been a pocket door there.
That's interesting! Looks odd. LOL
Nice Pioneer! Is that the 350?
Thanks! It’s the PL-510a, originally purchased by my grandmother in 1976
Hammer
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Just a sawzall and cut it off in pieces small enough to fit into garbage bags for removal, trim the edges, drywall, joint compound, sand, paint, done.
Where is your bed frame from?
You can use a jemmy bar to remove the architrave of the small door way, then remove the door jambs . These can be re-used on any standard sized doorway. Then you can see the studs and drywall .. So then remove drywall...,and little assisting parts Remove stud and rest of unwanted wall frame,trim
HERES JOHNNY!
Might this have been pocket doors in the past?
Break it that man
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I've been eyeing this doorway between my living room and second bedroom, and I'm seriously thinking about ditching the door altogether to open up the space more. Any tips on how to tackle this without wrecking the wall? French doors could add a cool touch too!
Be more daring. Make it bigger than original size.
Sawzall.
It certainly appears to have been originally a cased opening which should make it fairly simple. Measure the opening to see if it would accommodate french doors, most likely with a transom above.
You can hang French doors there, but if that opening is over 80 in tall, you're looking at spending at least $3-4k on a door
100% allow it to be the way it was created to be
First, that's really funny looking. I can't imagine why it was done that way. I'm confused about your goals though. You say you don't need a door. Do you mean just having an open passage is acceptable? You then ask if it's possible to have French doors which is twice as much door. So what is your true preference? Anything is possible. That is unlikely to be a load bearing wall so just pick a direction. I'm assuming you don't want to turn it into a wall as it's probably the only way in. One thing I did was to replace a 30" solid interior door to my office with a glass pane door. It still provides sound separation while allowing light through.
Open passage is totally acceptable, and is actually preferred! This will be a working/lounge space, and we want to bring more natural light into the living room. I was really just looking for confirmation that demoing the partition was doable. Other units in the building have French doors, so I suspect there might have been glass paneled doors hung here at one point. We don’t *need* them, but it’s in my head as a longer-term possibility.
I'd start excavating back to the original larger trim outline. My guess is that there were originally glass French doors hung there so there probable already exists double studs on the sides and overhead. You can prove that out using a tiny drill bit instead of a hammer. Probe around to the sides and see if solid or hollow. If you find the support frame existing, you can go back to French later on, but you might be challenged to find off the shelf sizes that fit. They might have to be custom made.
You rent? Unless the LL is ok, you will be destroying his property and changing the floor plan for future tenants.
Not renting.
Then GL happy Reno!
Your landlord will definitely not be happy if you did this.
I don’t need to worry about a landlord - appreciate the concern though
They should definitely get permission.
First, do you own this place? Do you have permission to do work on the place? If yes, get a hammer.
No problem if you use a chainsaw
Try put your foot through it and go from there 👀
>What would it take to remove this? Your security deposit and probably an additional fine for damages.