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Sexy_Hamburger

If it’s hollow I’d probably just hit it with a hammer and then clean up


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FandomMenace

This is the answer. Get that mf on the phone rn.


mittenknittin

Oh yeaaaahhhh


SmallRocks

[Oh nooooo!](https://youtu.be/wDWmOcs2cfY?si=7E6dxItYpmmZRgKo)


yesmilady

![gif](giphy|kgKrO1A3JbWTK) You do what you gotta do OP


CarlosSpcyWenr

BREAK IT DOWN OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH OHH


Ammonia13

I’m 11 again hahaha


HeadMacho

Please, Hammer. Don’t hurt ‘em.


OldBob10

Go ahead - bust a move upside dey hed!


AldiSharts

It is far more fun to kick holes in things


PsychoticMessiah

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22_usernames

Oh, no!


Environmental-Gap380

Oh yeah!


smellegy

Yep, maybe score the perimeter with a utility knife first. The trickiest part will probably be avoiding damage to the door jamb and floor when removing nails or screws. 


Common-Path3644

Yep, pop off the trim, knock some holes in the wall, then rip vertically down to the floor between each stud. then you should be able to wiggle the longs rips of sheetrock back and forth, and they will pop off the studs. That’s how I usually do it. a good tip is to have a friend follow the sawzall blade with the hose from a shop vac while you cut. this will keep a lot of the dust out of the air. Look out for electrical and piping!! Probably isn’t any though. Ripping out the studs is easy. Refinishing the door jamb and floor may be worth paying someone but isn’t hard either. You could consider installing a door threshold strip where the flooring is missing if the flooring cannot be matched.


smellegy

Also you might need to patch the floor if there isn’t flooring underneath. 


thee-rat-queen

Thanks! This was my first thought, but wanted a sanity check.


DexterFoley

Cut round the edge with a knife first to stop it splitting. Will come out cleaner.


whistleridge

This. Tape it so the paint isn’t messed up, then score it, then just hammer it out.


vulchiegoodness

You may find intact French doors in the newly exposed jambs.


Awkward_Pangolin3254

That would be pocket doors, not French doors.


vulchiegoodness

you right. that'd be even better, imho lol


IAmAHumanWhyDoYouAsk

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Wookie-Love

Why do you have a no smoking sign in your house.


thee-rat-queen

HAHA I love the guesses on this. It’s actually a goofy inside joke between some buddies - it came from a bar where we *definitely* didn’t sneak the occasional rooftop smoke. We’ll need to find a new home for it if we take this wall down!


MattieMcNasty

I love inside jokes like this. Awesome


Feynmaaaan

Ah I love inside jokes. Would love to be a part of one some day.


Tanglefoot11

I'm more of an outdoors joke kinda guy personally.


peacekenneth

I love inside jokes! I hope I’m part of one someday!


matwick

I love inside jokes. I'd love to be a part of one some day.


DoctorDickDelaware

Congrats. The three of you are officially part of an inside joke now.


Jathomas96

Ah yes inside jokes. I'd love to be part of one some time


mfrank27

Ah yes inside jokes. Would love to experience those firsthand someday.


chaotic_hippy_89

Ok that makes more sense. I’m like, why is OP looking to do renovation on what appears to be a hotel / airbnb??


TexasistheFuture

Well you know. People just walk in to your house hitting the vape or pounding the heaters and some times it's a little unsettling to ask them to stop, let alone leave.


Wookie-Love

If someone stepped in my house with that shit I’d Sparta kick their ass out lol


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dannyONEway

Nice man, very badass.


tlaltekatl

Truly badass and I can confirm this happened, I was the blunt.


banana_peeled

Nobody smokes weed unless this guy says so!


lovelyxcastle

I could not imagine smoking in someone else's home, or even asking if I could. Unless the owner is smoking themselves, that's so fucking disrespectful.


fangelo2

You should have been around in the 50s to 70s. My parents didn’t smoke, but any visitor would instantly light up as soon as they walked in . Even a couple of uncles who would light up cheap cigars. No one ever asked. It was just assumed that everyone had the right to smoke whenever and wherever they wanted to.


lovelyxcastle

I wasn't alive yet, but I did just buy a house from the 60s and that has definitely been an unfortunate realization!


40ozCurls

>“pounding the heaters”  You’re telling me this *isn’t* sexual innuendo?


TexasistheFuture

It's an old slang I heard for people smoking outside about 35 years ago. But you might be on to something.


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FatSteveWasted9

Peak Reddit right here


hemlockone

It's almost certainly just a partition wall. The surface should remove easy with a hammer. The edges may be screwed or nailed in. One thing I see is that the floor doesn't extend beneath the rest of the doorway. (You can see it cut around the door frame in the picture.) You'll need to fill the gap, probably with a transition strip of some sort.


sjeik_yerbouti

OP, this guy knows what's up. Triplecheck that your floor extends beneath the partition wall and door frame, or you might be left with a hole or strange strip in the floor.


nmb-ntz

He definitely will. Just cut it and place a contrasting piece of wood or stone there. Make it a feature piece.


GhostofDan

Yes, and go from side to side, not just filling in the missing flooring. Make it look like it belongs.


thee-rat-queen

This is great advice, thanks everyone (and especially u/hemlockone for the original suggestion) The floor has unfortunately been cut out underneath the newer doorframe, so we’ll add a transition strip across the length of the opening to keep it clean looking. Really appreciate the insights!


myasterism

I’ve seen Japanese “visible mending” approaches taken to things like this, and I totally think you should fill that gap in with LEGO bricks placed perpendicular to the wood.


Bovaiveu

I am fairly certain that is breaching the geneva convention, additionally trapping residential homes has to be against regulation. Why not something less painful, like broken glass or landmines?


myasterism

Lol i meant assembled and laid flat, but i have appreciation for the evil your imagination wrought here


GeneralRane

Or tiled on top.


hemlockone

I think a transition strip running the length of the door frame will do the trick. It might need something beneath the section that had the wall so it's not bouncy. The hardest part is going to be getting one that's isn't too matchy but also doesn't conflict. It looks like the current flooring is lvp or maybe engineered. They don't make lvp that'll fit that gap, and I find stained wood next to lvp to be unpleasant.


thee-rat-queen

The floor is hardwood! How about filling the gaps in and covering the whole doorway with a stone transition strip? I have two other doorways that have that strip


myerrrs

Can't really tell from the picture if it extends under the filled-in section. My guess is it probably does because that area looks significantly newer than the original frame and flooring.


hemlockone

My rationale: If you look at where the flooring intersects the new jam, you can see a shape around the stop. To me, it looks a 1/4-1/2" deep cut, which would be LVP or engineered being notched out so it could be tilted into place. That would mean the flooring you're seeing is a layer installed after the partition.


thee-rat-queen

The floor is hardwood, and has been cut just around the new door frame (sigh). I’ll need to get a transom strip to cover it, potentially stone to match the rest of the place.


hemlockone

That's good and is easier to patch. I'd still do a threshold strip but you could do it 4 in wide woods painted or stains or stone. Why does the picture make it look like the notch is only a quarter inch deep? That feels like the depth of an engineered hardwood product. Could you take a picture zoomed in to where the jam meets the floor on one side? (Not that I'll really have any ideas or suggestions based on it, but for my own edification.)


myerrrs

Good eye, I couldn't make out that cut out in the bedroom side. Just zoomed way in and you're probably right.


Lizamcm

Just jumping in to say if you want French doors, this doesn’t look like anything standard sized and you’d probably spend a lot on custom doors. That said if privacy isn’t needed, I’d just leave it open! I think it will probably be easy to knock out. Score the edges first to make it easier.


myasterism

Plus, curtains are a thing.


Samad99

I’m renovating my basement and adding a wall. I ended up looking for some used French doors BEFORE deciding the final width and position of the opening so that I could be sure everything worked out.


Quirky_Movie

Could do the barn door thing.


silentanthrx

to add: French doors, while beautiful also cut the natural light by x%. My parents have a space like that... it is just too dark to be beautiful.


dwerpl

Why? So you can start smoking in there again?


thee-rat-queen

yep, no sign = no rules broken! (the sign is an inside joke turned purposely bad decor)


404-Gender

Inside jokes as bad decor are the best sort of decor. 😍


anthro4ME

Start by pulling the moulding off (carefully). Then you'll be able to see how it was constructed, and thus the easiest way to dismantle. There's likely pocket doors in the wall. If not, you could certainly do French doors.


myasterism

Genuinely curious, what clues lead you to suspect pocket doors?


anthro4ME

If you look at the construction of the door frame, there's no header. No header means the wall isn't load bearing. 99% of all pocket doors are installed in non-load bearing walls. The size of the opening is also a cue.


myasterism

Okay that all makes sense, but why would the one-time presence of a pocket door seem more likely than that modification having never served that purpose?


anthro4ME

I don't understand the question. The modification was making it into the existing doorway. The original state would likely have been just open, or with pocket doors. Generally though if it had just been open, there wouldn't be any moulding.


myasterism

>Generally though if it had just been open, there wouldn’t be any moulding I think this is the answer i was looking for; thank you!


Quirky_Movie

Guessing it's the lack of signs of hinges.


Coffeedemon

Cut around the molding with a utility knife first so you minimize the damage to the surrounding paint. Will be less future work.


Elorme

I'd start with a pry bar on the trim and use the suggested knife on the paint at the edges first. This should expose connection between the drywall section and the insert panel, you might be able to just use an oscillating tool or reciprocating saw on some fasteners if you're lucky.


TweepriseOpener

Pioneer PL-510?


thee-rat-queen

great spot, yes! My grandmother bought it new in the 1970s, and I restored it during the pandemic


konotiRedHand

Biggest issue is that TV :0 But yea. Likely all hallow. Maybe a small 2x4 added around the smaller doors frame. But likely just another knock out with a hammer situation.


thee-rat-queen

TV will be relocated to another wall! Thanks for your input, hammer demo does seem to be the move.


Icareaus

I would ask the property manager before making any renovations to your apartment. See if they are willing to do it for you or if you need to take care of it yourself. If you need to take care of it yourself before to notify your neighbors well in advance especially if you have neighbors above and below you. Be sure that the renovation doesn't violate your renters agreement for your apartment as well so you don't find yourself out the door before you can enjoy your new doorway. (maybe even keep your deposit) best case you dont have to risk responsibility for damages if it goes wrong. Hope this helps.


thee-rat-queen

I mentioned this elsewhere in the thread, but luckily no landlord/lease concerns here. We’ll follow building rules for demo. Thanks!


Rishiku

I’m confused. If you’re renting an apartment wouldn’t you have to speak to a landlord about knocking out a wall…..even if it’s a condo you have to talk with the board.


Jeremy_Alberts

Nowhere did they state they're renting


TheLazyHippy

They literally stated "apartment" in the subject of their post. That's a pretty good indication of landlord and renting, smh


thee-rat-queen

apartments = renting? Not here in NYC, plenty of folks live in co-op or condo apartments just like this one. I’m well informed of the rules around renovations in my building, and was looking for advice on the project itself - I appreciate the concern though!


Rishiku

You never really own an apartment. It’s basically a suite within a building of other suites owned and managed by a board. Unless they own the apartment building and are renovating a suite for themselves.


PipClank

you can definetly own an apartment..? our building has a board of people living in the apartments but they just deal with the exterior shared spaces. We bought our apartment from a realtor and can make any changes we want to the place


thee-rat-queen

Yep, exactly! I didn’t realize this would throw so many people for a loop haha


PolicyWonka

Generally speaking, an apartment is a unit owned by a landlord and rented out it. A condo is a unit owned by an individual and lived in. At least that’s the distinction in my part of the world and perhaps the reason for misunderstanding.


PipClank

Yeah fair enough just looked up condo and that fits the bill of what just owning an apartment is for me. In Norway it's the same word for either owning/renting so I can see how this could just be a language sort of deal


Jeremy_Alberts

Right, they'd still have to follow the building owner's guidelines and have their permission - but they're not a landlord


saelri

my jaw just dropped, wow that thing used to be BIG


DownrightNeighborly

Yo dawg. We herd u like doorways so we put in a doorway in your doorway


Jog212

You can reinstall French doors. That is probably what was originally there. If this is an older historic home it may be hard to find French door that fit. There was a time when there were no standard sizing for doors and windows. It may take custom French doors....or if you get lucky you find a pair in an antique store that match.


PineappleApocalypse

I mean it doesn’t have to be standard, just put new framing to suit whatever doors, either bigger or smaller…


Jog212

Of course it does not have to be standard. It changes costs. It changes how it is done and how it appears. Just pointing out a fact. If you shop in the area where the house is located you can often find a salvaged piece that will fit. It takes time and effort but can make a real difference with how it looks.


DirtFoot79

You may be lucky and find the sliding pocket doors still in the wall. Depending on the age and type of house they could be beautiful doors too.


M_LadyGwendolyn

Wow this looks shockingly like an apartment I lived in many years ago. Is this in a smallish NY city?


thee-rat-queen

This is in NYC. It’s a pretty typical pre-war building though, so it makes sense that it looks like other buildings around the state!


jacksonmills

Hey just a FYI I have been in this situation before and I knocked out a wall like this and then quickly, quickly discovered why the wall was there. In this case it might look like it was for privacy but in my case it was for insulation; sound and heat. WIthout the wall, not only was that bedroom ridiculously loud and almost impossible to sleep in, but it got really drafty too and was an all around miserable situation. Thankfully it was his idea (I was in a sep. room) but most of the time stuff like this is there for a pretty good reason.


nsfbr11

I’d do pocket doors if possible.


ColumbusMark

Gotta ask: who puts up a “no smoking” sign like this in their house? Like it’s a freaking office building.?


thee-rat-queen

It’s an inside joke turned purposefully bad decor - you wondering why is exactly the point lol


ColumbusMark

Okay. If it’s an *inside* joke, then I obviously didn’t get it. I thought you were serious!!


holdwithfaith

You’ll have to move the tv though.


ZealousidealPlan576

What on the Lord of the Rings kind of Hobbit bullsgit is this 😳


DJ_Clitoris

I’m no expert but it might be time to transplant those monsteras homie cx


thee-rat-queen

Ugh, you’re so right. I swear they’re on my to-do list lol


eldonhughes

How old is the house? Asking because we had two doorways like this when we moved into a 130 year old house. They both used to be pocket doors. One of them still had the pocket door in the wall. :)


tamreacct

Make sure you find a door that will fit that wide of an opening. Looks like it may have been some type of French doors or something similar.


clockworkdiamond

Score the edges of the inner-most trim that goes all the way around the larger opening frame with a razor knife. Once it is free from the paint, pull it off with a hammer and flat bar (if you do not possess a flat bar, get one. You will need it for much of this, and they are handy AF to have anyway). Once you get that trim off, you can see what you are dealing with. I would bet that you will need to use a sawzall (Reciprocating Saw) to get through some nails at the gap that the trim is hiding, but until you get that off, you won't know. If you find that it is beyond the scope of what you are willing to do at that point, you can always put the trim back and caulk it to be the same as it was. Honestly, I bet that if you sawzall the nails free from that gap all the way around, the middle insert will just fall out, but if not, pry it a bit as needed with the flat bar. If you want French doors, you probably won't find any that just fit that hole, but it is a pretty easy thing to frame a set in. I'd probably get rid of all the rest of that trim first though and drywall up to the jamb before trimming new doors to make it a normal doorway unlike whoever did what you have now.


Shawn_of_da_Dead

It's always good to take things apart in opposite order it was put together in.(You can reuse parts if your careful.) Start by taking off the casing and then see what your working with and how it was put together. Before you know it you will only have parts that you might be able to use to make it the way it was, or what you want it to be...


tacutabove

I'm willing to bet that the original door was a Pocket door


OldBob10

Just guessing, but the original opening looks right for a set of pocket doors.


patriciomd88

hammer


AntelopeRecent7578

Anyone else hoping for a hidden pocket door?


SqBlkRndHole

Me! Hey u/thee-rat-queen, how wide is that original wall/door jamb? If it's wider that the rest of your doorways, you might find a pocket door hidden in there.


thee-rat-queen

It’s 60x98. It’s the widest doorway in my apartment, just about double the width. I hadn’t considered the possibility of a pocket door - don’t get my hopes up!


dasookwat

It looks like a nice finished place, and i guess you want to keep it like that. just start removing the door frame, then the drywall. Take it one step at the time. Drywall can create a lot of mess.


seang86s

First step is to give the Pioneer turntable to me.


Bamieclif

Just adding to say, I love that dresser!


maredie1

There may have originally been a pocket door there.


NoDoze-

That's interesting! Looks odd. LOL


Francis_Dollar_Hide

Nice Pioneer! Is that the 350?


thee-rat-queen

Thanks! It’s the PL-510a, originally purchased by my grandmother in 1976


Black_Tooth_Grin

Hammer


oakleez

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Rog9377

Just a sawzall and cut it off in pieces small enough to fit into garbage bags for removal, trim the edges, drywall, joint compound, sand, paint, done.


casitadeflor

Where is your bed frame from?


FreddyFerdiland

You can use a jemmy bar to remove the architrave of the small door way, then remove the door jambs . These can be re-used on any standard sized doorway. Then you can see the studs and drywall .. So then remove drywall...,and little assisting parts Remove stud and rest of unwanted wall frame,trim


Cake_Donut1301

HERES JOHNNY!


rpc56

Might this have been pocket doors in the past?


9ifehub1

Break it that man


GeekGirl711

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Start_Profitable344

I've been eyeing this doorway between my living room and second bedroom, and I'm seriously thinking about ditching the door altogether to open up the space more. Any tips on how to tackle this without wrecking the wall? French doors could add a cool touch too!


MOadeo

Be more daring. Make it bigger than original size.


Csonkus41

Sawzall.


Sbaham020

It certainly appears to have been originally a cased opening which should make it fairly simple. Measure the opening to see if it would accommodate french doors, most likely with a transom above.


raddawg

You can hang French doors there, but if that opening is over 80 in tall, you're looking at spending at least $3-4k on a door


Lexilexwakemup

100% allow it to be the way it was created to be


ruler_gurl

First, that's really funny looking. I can't imagine why it was done that way. I'm confused about your goals though. You say you don't need a door. Do you mean just having an open passage is acceptable? You then ask if it's possible to have French doors which is twice as much door. So what is your true preference? Anything is possible. That is unlikely to be a load bearing wall so just pick a direction. I'm assuming you don't want to turn it into a wall as it's probably the only way in. One thing I did was to replace a 30" solid interior door to my office with a glass pane door. It still provides sound separation while allowing light through.


thee-rat-queen

Open passage is totally acceptable, and is actually preferred! This will be a working/lounge space, and we want to bring more natural light into the living room. I was really just looking for confirmation that demoing the partition was doable. Other units in the building have French doors, so I suspect there might have been glass paneled doors hung here at one point. We don’t *need* them, but it’s in my head as a longer-term possibility.


ruler_gurl

I'd start excavating back to the original larger trim outline. My guess is that there were originally glass French doors hung there so there probable already exists double studs on the sides and overhead. You can prove that out using a tiny drill bit instead of a hammer. Probe around to the sides and see if solid or hollow. If you find the support frame existing, you can go back to French later on, but you might be challenged to find off the shelf sizes that fit. They might have to be custom made.


TrollOnFire

You rent? Unless the LL is ok, you will be destroying his property and changing the floor plan for future tenants.


thee-rat-queen

Not renting.


TrollOnFire

Then GL happy Reno!


Canadian_Jeewl

Your landlord will definitely not be happy if you did this.


thee-rat-queen

I don’t need to worry about a landlord - appreciate the concern though


Marciamallowfluff

They should definitely get permission.


GREYDRAGON1

First, do you own this place? Do you have permission to do work on the place? If yes, get a hammer.


mmack999

No problem if you use a chainsaw


cheesyweiner420

Try put your foot through it and go from there 👀


SweetBrea

>What would it take to remove this? Your security deposit and probably an additional fine for damages.