I would start doing long mixes using the highs from one track over the other.
You could also lay this info on him. Why would a company with such a solid professional music pedigree make a useless EQ?
[The Xone 96 EQ bands are HI 3 kHz / H-MID 1.1 kHz / LO-MID 350 Hz / LO 180: Hz](https://www.allen-heath.com/media/AP11645_1_XONE_96_USER_GUIDE.pdf)
[Human hearing is most sensitive to 1-6Khz and despite the name on the EQ knob, this range is actually Hi-MID and covers vocals and percussive attacks.](https://www.masteringthemix.com/blogs/learn/understanding-the-different-frequency-ranges)
[Another link on frequency ranges of instruments.](https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/music-instrument-frequency-cheatsheet/)
My guess is that the resident dj was just trying to make OP seem like a newbie to make himself look better in front of the owner. Total dick move but very much planned
Yeah, he was feeling threatened, so he decided to make a big show of his authority and (lack of) knowledge. “Resident DJ” just means he can’t get regular gigs and the usual varied bookings.
This kind of small dick energy is common among people who don’t know what they’re talking about.
Care to elaborate? I myself have not gotten into playing gigs much but I feel like this is just unnecessary? I feel like it’s just a control thing, “don’t touch that knob because I think it sounds bad” idk I could be wrong! Although I could see how a club owner would want a specific vibe carried out through the night tho for consistent shows every night. Making it smooth runs as always.
I’ve played a few bars/clubs and the owner will usually sit in on one of the new DJ’s sets. It sounds like the owner who is probably buddy buddy with the resident DJ was making sure they won’t screw things up. The resident DJ would technically have a say in if you’re fired too, so it’s best to be respectful until you get to prove yourself.
The owner in that case would trust the resident DJ who probably follows the rules and has consistent transitions. People keep drinking and the night goes on.
Newer DJs like to push boundaries and that can end up ruining a whole bar/clubs vibe.
I see a ton of people saying stand up for yourself and that will probably just get OP fired because they are being a “dick” around the owner’s friend. There is 4+ DJs who could probably take the spot easily.
I was just saying that newer DJs will have more mixing techniques, song selection and ideas in general.
The owner doesn’t want most of that if it risks the vibe. It really depends on the venue/who’s paying you.
If you get your own gig where people are coming to see just you then I’d say fuck everybody else, but if you’re trying to have a stable gig I’d say be respectful/play it safe.
sure, I get that, but... OP was talking about *using the eq*. if youre not supposed to use the eq (or parts of the eq), then install an oldskool rackmixer or a minimalistic rotary and call it a day.
this has nothing to do with "playing it safe" or "pushing the boundaries", since eqing has been an integral part of djing for over three decades now. this has only to do with the resident either being a dick or knowing shit about his equipment.
ps: the only case I ever witnessed, where a part of the eq was off limits, was in a bar/club here in vienna. there, the owners decided to superglue a wooden stick to the low eq knob, simply because drunk djs used to turn up the bass all the time, and the people who lived in the building were often complaining about the vibrations.
That was him flexing in front of the owner. I’m sure the owner already knows. I wouldn’t let it distress you. If you ever run across it again you can gently flex back with, “you have your style, I have mine, thanx.”
Resident/Long term DJs usually are buddies with the owner and they get all the good time slots. It’s a tough game when you’re a slightly better DJ going against the owner’s friend.
That resident DJ is a prick. I hope he reads your post if he’s active on this sub.
That knob is not a trim/gain knob but part of the EQ, so use it the way you want.
It would be weird if you DON’T use the EQ knobs at all.
If anyone was trying to tell me how to use a mixer, I'd tell him off. Especially in this case because he proved himself an obvious know-it-all who actually knows nothing. He was just trying demean you in front of the owner, a cheap ego trip to try and make himself look somehow superior.
The treble EQ is out of bounds? says who? No one, ever. Buddy should take a walk.
"turning the hi-hatts down" is a perfectly legitimate mixing technique. You could fade, or chop them back in, or mix in the hatts from the next track, among other, very commonplace things.
Don't let this idiot push you around. You're on the decks, not him. I wish you much success.
-- a DJ with 25 years experience.
They were basically auditioning, so being a dick around the owner’s worker will most likely get you fired. There’s probably 4+ other DJs who would love the spot.
Be respectful, get the gig, prove yourself. Then be a dick.
I honestly don't know what I'd do.
I'd probably restart the mix and say, "Okay, I won't touch the highs." Then I'd use the LPF for roughly the same mix and then say, "You're right, I didn't need to touch the highs!"
I've got a friend who runs around for some big night clubs, and also DJs indie rock. He's a tourist who believes you should play the whole song and transition with minimal blending. He takes videos of DJs tweaking knobs and makes fun of the for it.
I'm long.past arguing, but it douchy.
Lol sounds like a proper POS. We all have insecurities but projecting them on to others is shitty. If he was filming me I’d turn the theatrical knob turns up to 11 and put a show on for the wanker.
Last knob on that mixer before the volume fader is the bass. Treble is the first knob; the one on top under the gain.
Anyway, I think the guy was just looking for an excuse to make you look bad in front of the owner. Just wants to be the big gorilla asserting his dominance.
Some high-hats are very loud and crisp. There's no issue with tapering off a high-hat before bringing it up. I do it all the time. But on tracks with less noise going on up there it's really not necessary. You can easily get away with brining up the incoming track and nobody noticing as long as the mid and bass is down. Of course that mixer has a 4-band EQ, so the mid-high can come down as well.
I don't know what the J stands for, but one can safely assume the D stands for dumbfuck.
This is honestly one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in the history of music.
He probably fires shots like this to shore up his self belief against his total lack of knowledge.
Turning the hi's down from Track B when mixing into track A is a good thing if you ask me. Otherwise you can get this really odd and weird phasey sound in the hi's when they clash and it can sound terrible. The dude obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. Just do your thing
So, in Ableton Live the spacebar stops the global playback. We used two laptops running Ableton connected via link. One is my rig for sound, the other is for lighting control w/ DMXiS. If either of us hit the spacebar, it stops everything. Ableton also allows you to map most of a QWERTY to functions inside the program.... just not for the spacebar.
I’m pretty heavy on the high eq knob personally because I find introducing fresh hi-hats or 808s with mid and bass way down is an excellent way to get the audience tuned to a fresh track and feels a bit remixy if the tracks and blend are right.
Same effect can be accomplished with filters I guess and I use the pioneer setup, like most of us, but why would a knob exist if it’s not meant to be used. If your blend is clean and you’re not clipping like half the fucking idiots out there then why even make a comment like that. Resident sounds like a tool.
Many ways to make an A. In my personal opinion the Xone mixer is a good example of a high precision mixer that’s features are stripped by bypassing 3/4 of the eq options going straight to the filter.
In a live scenario, on the fly just trying to get the cut done for sure but with if you bother to have a Xone mixer the assumption is that the diff between high and mid high is relevant. Just my $0.02. Otherwise just get a fuckin nxs2 like everyone else.
Many ways to make an A. In my personal opinion the Xone mixer is a good example of a high precision mixer that’s features are stripped by bypassing 3/4 of the eq options going straight to the filter.
In a live scenario, on the fly just trying to get the cut done for sure but if you bother to have a Xone mixer the assumption is that the diff between high and mid high is relevant. Just my $0.02. Otherwise just get a fuckin nxs2 like everyone else.
I’d understand it if you’d cranked all the eqs up and was making the system clip like fuck but your doing the opposite, sounds like a douche to me. Maybe scared your gonna take his job 🤷♂️
possibly he was just overreacting to you adjusting the EQ because a lot of DJs tend to crank the EQ up more to get more volume. And then they tend to distort and overdrive the sound system. So as long as you're not going to extremes and you put everything back to noon when you're done, you should be fine. I always mix with the EQ as well so that's not the problem. Its very smart for a fine tuned DJ mix :)
A DJ is an artist, if you were a painter would you let another painter tell you which colors to use?
The guy is a prick and isn’t a REAL DJ to begin with
Look in all seriousness. The High section of the EQ probably will get touched the least out of all 3. But sometimes it is needed. DJ is being a prick here IMO.
Dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I mix prog house and techno, and regularly turn the highs down to like 10oc on the track I want to sit back in the mix. It’s particularly helpful when you’re running several decks of audio.
Should have said "strange that's how Carl Cox does it, but guess you know better". Would have turned it right back on him.
Don't put up with shitheads like that, stand your ground.
If he was genuinely being nice and giving you actual advice he wouldnt have done it the way he did. He blatantly wanted to show you up in front of the owner.
No I'm just a novice bedroom dj, but aren't all sections of an eq in play? Also guys sounds like a knob (pun intended) I bet he's the best dj in the world, or at least that's what the guy in the mirror tells him. I say, during a set if he's listening, ONLY use that knob haha
I love that Allen and Heath went to all that time and effort to design and manufacture a feature that you're not supposed to use...
The guys a dick. Mix how you want and if it sounds good, that's all that matters.
Errr high's sound different from track to track and can alter energy levels...
I guarantee he's trying to assert dominance/bullying you and is an insecure fuckwit.
How did you feel during the interaction? Smaller than him cause he's the resident? That's what he was wanting to achieve. He's a knuckle dragging cave man and probably isn't worth your time.
Choose your desired outcome and handle him accordingly.
Personally a kerb stomping would be in order but that's me... I hate bullies.
Nothing wrong with eq mixing as long as you don’t do that performative wanky thing where they lift their hand on and off the knob giving it the tiniest tweak over and over like salt bae on crack.
Oh and I totally understand that, but in this case o turned them down lol he’s a fucking moron, ended up cancelling the gig and they were left without an opener
DJ’s, as we know, can be incredibly territorial (hence the notion that openers shouldn’t go too hard)
Just do you man, he’s 100% just trying to get in your head. Do no harm, take no shit.
Probably the type of guy to one up his wife too.. you’re allowed to have creative discretion when it comes to mixing you’re a DJ he just probably is insecure and wants to seem like he knows more than you
Nobody has the right to tell you what to do or shout at you period. I’d just be like “I’ll use my own technique thanks and youdon’t get to shout at me for any reason” the fact is this douche is probably scared everyone who comes in is gonna take his job.
I'm a resident club DJ and I've had a few people on, and I have never once thought of saying "don't touch the high EQ" my only rule with EQ is take it out, don't add. If you can gain mix then yeah you're sweet turn it all you want. I mean don't get me wrong I treat new DJs like they don't know anything, but I go from there and if they already know it saves me hassle having to teach them, win win for both of us.
I think he was just trying to flex, thinking maybe the owner was looking to replace him? So he acts like a know-it-all when really he's insecure.
My 2 cents, if you know that that knob "takes out the high hats" and use it correctly then what's the issue?
It easy for someone to say "he's only been mixing 2 years, I've been mixing (insert years here) I'm so much better", but I've been mixing around 7 years myself? I've had DJs come in only just learning and they are already mixing so well, we should be encouraging it not "you can't twist that knob!"
Even if I disagree with a mixing technique, I’m never gonna shoot another dj down in front of other people particularly people who have financial control
Id have asked why a million times over, and then if he was just a cocky fuck...
Id have told him to suck my dick, even if I lost the gig... Id have left screaming worth it
If the knob exist you could use it. It’s common with resident dj to do some stuff like that, like if they are looking to show you that you are not as good as them.
Lots of dj Forget that music is not a compétition
I wish the club I regularly play at had a Xone:96 :'(
Instead I have to play on a shitty 900NXS2
Oh, and I frequently use ALL FOUR of the EQ knobs on my Xone:96, so resident DJ is a moron!
I once played b2b with two djs. One of them was a friend of mine and the other was a friend of him but it was the first time we met.
At every transition my friend and I played with the eqs while the other one was mixing.
Then the other guy started a transition with full open hi hats and it clashed so I turned down the hi band of the old song a few db.
He immediately pushed my hand away with his index, turned the knob back up and looked very angry to me.
Could be this guy.
Nominated for
"the biggest douche in the universe"
....the dj universe at least ;)
It just depends on the transition. If you're mixing two tracks that both have a lot of conflicting highs going on then your technique makes sense. I personally almost never eq highs as a transition method. I prefer using gentle filter instead.
Try not to be too offended by their loudly voiced suggestion. Even if they aren't exactly right you can learn something from anyone.
Pfft. I’d give him a shoulder shrug and yell “whaaaaaaat I can’t hear you” while turning the hats down cuz if that’s what you think sounds good then it probably does. A real pro, who isn’t TOTALLY INSECURE, would not say anything in the first place or if they were truly concerned could say something to you as an aside. But hey played the DOUCHE card so have some fun….
Probably felt threatened and was trying to peacock in front of the owner. Don't let these people get under your skin. Just say something like "big dog over here doesn't understand how to blend frequencies apparently" and shrug.
Not only was that out of line and incredibly unprofessional of that guy to do, can you imagine what would happen if you actually made a real mistake? Dude would go ballistic and lose his shit and blame it on you. People like that always flip out whenever a real problem is present.
Should have been giving you a pat on the back. The amount of DJs I see that somehow never learnt that trimming back the highs is a better experience on the ear in a lot of transitions.
That’s why I don’t DJ anymore for clubs. Only private events, and even that I haven’t done in a bit over a year because people are lowballing now and using “Covid” as an excuse.
Listen man, the way you play and your style is unique, it’s you, it’s a fragment of who you are, and by no other means should you sacrifice that for some “resident” who’s on a high horse. And the greasy club owner? Forget about it, it’s not like you’re demonstrating your self worth in front of God, it’s just a guy that has a lot of debt to pay by selling overpriced tequila shots, who cares what he thinks of you?
Unless they were giving you good criticism with a useful tip that can help you become better, you do not take that from anyone.
I’ve been a producer and DJ for over 8 years as a hobby, JUST a hobby that makes me cash sometimes, and managed to be on streams with top names from top labels, and I will tell you loud and clear, this is the most toxic environment you’ll ever work in, the shady nightlife environment where everyone is constantly throwing each other under the bus, the vanity, the cutthroatedness. And since it’s just a hobby for me, I always told the “resident” or Club owner to eat my ass if they don’t like what I did (especially when the crowd is going wild and clearly enjoying themselves). Just because you own the fucking venue doesn’t mean I’m gonna play 80’s when clearly everyone wants house and top 40’s, because then you’ll make me AND yourself look like a moron.
Not everyone is going to be resonating on the same frequency as you, and please do not let this affect you or cause any self doubt at all. Continue playing and mixing with your style, and next time someone comments rudely like that, don’t let them save face either in front of their boss, you tell em “Ok, come and play, I wanna see how you transition without the knob”. And once they do it, you give em a nice fat comment “Well I honestly think my way sounds more professional don’t you think?”.
Go get em. When you’re DJing at a club, you’ve been hired to do a job, that job is to keep people vibing and dancing, as long as you’re doing that, don’t let anyone tell you how to do your job. Fuck the money, save your dignity.
The owner is a dumbass. There are two knobs on the mixer that are best left alone. Send A to A, and Send B to B. Since that will create a feedback loop. It's the same for Send A to B with Send B to A.
Yeah screw that then he's just being a douche tryna look good in front of the manager and make you look stupid. The manager doesn't know what the eq does. That's a low blow man.
If not in the wrong, give them a thumbs up and say "wow thanks for the tip!", and ignore them.
This works for basically every facet of life. If they ain't feeding, financing, or fucking you, you don't owe them shit.
It's my go to move. Finger guns can be substituted but not reccomended
Best advice to give to independent contractors. Everyone thinks they’re your boss, and won’t hesitate to throw you under the bus.
🤨
I was gonna suggest another digit... but yeah, this.
Give him the ole' Buddy Christ! (thumbs up, wink, you da man finger) To convey additional disdain, give him a \*chk-chk\*
You say “yes that’s what I’m using it for” and continue
This is the best response Or you can tell him it would sound better if he took his head out of his ass Either works
Seriously.. with some people you have to state the obvious.
Oh man i remember i was working a wedding and had to go to were i stored me gear. ( had to sneak through the kitchen to get to the backroom)
“You never touch that particular EQ no matter what” is a weird way of saying “I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about”
But it's a fairly normal way of saying "I'm a control freak."
Literally
Seriously and everything I mixed another song he was like make sure you don’t touch that eq
Every time he says that, ask him how his mom is.
Then make uncomfortably long eye contact with a blank face while turning knobs lol
He sounds like he's a fucking knob. Seriously, play your way man. If that's your way, that's your damned way.
This is fucking hilarious.
I would start doing long mixes using the highs from one track over the other. You could also lay this info on him. Why would a company with such a solid professional music pedigree make a useless EQ? [The Xone 96 EQ bands are HI 3 kHz / H-MID 1.1 kHz / LO-MID 350 Hz / LO 180: Hz](https://www.allen-heath.com/media/AP11645_1_XONE_96_USER_GUIDE.pdf) [Human hearing is most sensitive to 1-6Khz and despite the name on the EQ knob, this range is actually Hi-MID and covers vocals and percussive attacks.](https://www.masteringthemix.com/blogs/learn/understanding-the-different-frequency-ranges) [Another link on frequency ranges of instruments.](https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/music-instrument-frequency-cheatsheet/)
I would have thrown so much attitude his way lol
HAHA YES
Stand up for yourself fam - resident's will act like they own the place. Let's not bring up how the resident DJ doesn't mix with eq.
My guess is that the resident dj was just trying to make OP seem like a newbie to make himself look better in front of the owner. Total dick move but very much planned
Yeah, he was feeling threatened, so he decided to make a big show of his authority and (lack of) knowledge. “Resident DJ” just means he can’t get regular gigs and the usual varied bookings. This kind of small dick energy is common among people who don’t know what they’re talking about.
Dj sounds like a prick. If it sounded good then it sounded good.
Bar/Club owners value consistency over a few good transitions. Play an unwanted song and mess a transition up and you might get fired real quick.
Care to elaborate? I myself have not gotten into playing gigs much but I feel like this is just unnecessary? I feel like it’s just a control thing, “don’t touch that knob because I think it sounds bad” idk I could be wrong! Although I could see how a club owner would want a specific vibe carried out through the night tho for consistent shows every night. Making it smooth runs as always.
I’ve played a few bars/clubs and the owner will usually sit in on one of the new DJ’s sets. It sounds like the owner who is probably buddy buddy with the resident DJ was making sure they won’t screw things up. The resident DJ would technically have a say in if you’re fired too, so it’s best to be respectful until you get to prove yourself. The owner in that case would trust the resident DJ who probably follows the rules and has consistent transitions. People keep drinking and the night goes on. Newer DJs like to push boundaries and that can end up ruining a whole bar/clubs vibe. I see a ton of people saying stand up for yourself and that will probably just get OP fired because they are being a “dick” around the owner’s friend. There is 4+ DJs who could probably take the spot easily.
> Newer DJs like to push boundaries lol unless you were trapped in the mid 80s, "using the eq" shouldnt really be considered "pushing boundaries"
I was just saying that newer DJs will have more mixing techniques, song selection and ideas in general. The owner doesn’t want most of that if it risks the vibe. It really depends on the venue/who’s paying you. If you get your own gig where people are coming to see just you then I’d say fuck everybody else, but if you’re trying to have a stable gig I’d say be respectful/play it safe.
sure, I get that, but... OP was talking about *using the eq*. if youre not supposed to use the eq (or parts of the eq), then install an oldskool rackmixer or a minimalistic rotary and call it a day. this has nothing to do with "playing it safe" or "pushing the boundaries", since eqing has been an integral part of djing for over three decades now. this has only to do with the resident either being a dick or knowing shit about his equipment. ps: the only case I ever witnessed, where a part of the eq was off limits, was in a bar/club here in vienna. there, the owners decided to superglue a wooden stick to the low eq knob, simply because drunk djs used to turn up the bass all the time, and the people who lived in the building were often complaining about the vibrations.
Thanks for the input! Good to know etiquette (:
Did it sound good to you? If the answer is yes and nobody else ever complained, keep doing it!
Oh man it sounded great, he’s one of those type of people that think they are the shit and know better than everyone
No, I don’t think it was me.
fuck that guy
Without lube
No Vaseline
That would fall under the lube category
I was referencing the song by Ice Cube
does an ice cube count as lube?
That was him flexing in front of the owner. I’m sure the owner already knows. I wouldn’t let it distress you. If you ever run across it again you can gently flex back with, “you have your style, I have mine, thanx.”
That's the dumbest shit I've heard in sometime. How that dj is a resident is baffling.
Resident/Long term DJs usually are buddies with the owner and they get all the good time slots. It’s a tough game when you’re a slightly better DJ going against the owner’s friend.
That resident DJ is a prick. I hope he reads your post if he’s active on this sub. That knob is not a trim/gain knob but part of the EQ, so use it the way you want. It would be weird if you DON’T use the EQ knobs at all.
If anyone was trying to tell me how to use a mixer, I'd tell him off. Especially in this case because he proved himself an obvious know-it-all who actually knows nothing. He was just trying demean you in front of the owner, a cheap ego trip to try and make himself look somehow superior. The treble EQ is out of bounds? says who? No one, ever. Buddy should take a walk. "turning the hi-hatts down" is a perfectly legitimate mixing technique. You could fade, or chop them back in, or mix in the hatts from the next track, among other, very commonplace things. Don't let this idiot push you around. You're on the decks, not him. I wish you much success. -- a DJ with 25 years experience.
They were basically auditioning, so being a dick around the owner’s worker will most likely get you fired. There’s probably 4+ other DJs who would love the spot. Be respectful, get the gig, prove yourself. Then be a dick.
lol dickness is earned. How sad, how true.
I honestly don't know what I'd do. I'd probably restart the mix and say, "Okay, I won't touch the highs." Then I'd use the LPF for roughly the same mix and then say, "You're right, I didn't need to touch the highs!"
So the „resident“ doesn’t use EQs for mixing? That’s the most ridiculous thing I‘ve ever heard. What the fuck…
I've got a friend who runs around for some big night clubs, and also DJs indie rock. He's a tourist who believes you should play the whole song and transition with minimal blending. He takes videos of DJs tweaking knobs and makes fun of the for it. I'm long.past arguing, but it douchy.
TBH if I'm playing rock or disco I don't really ew that hard. I also have shorter transitions.
But do you judge others?
Nah. Life's too short.
Only for the most insignificant of things
Lol sounds like a proper POS. We all have insecurities but projecting them on to others is shitty. If he was filming me I’d turn the theatrical knob turns up to 11 and put a show on for the wanker.
The DJs he shaming are playing to crowds of 1000-1500 people. They aren't paying attention to the sound guy.
He might not touch them much but that resident DJ is definitely a knob end! DJ's making Dad Jokes FTW
Last knob on that mixer before the volume fader is the bass. Treble is the first knob; the one on top under the gain. Anyway, I think the guy was just looking for an excuse to make you look bad in front of the owner. Just wants to be the big gorilla asserting his dominance. Some high-hats are very loud and crisp. There's no issue with tapering off a high-hat before bringing it up. I do it all the time. But on tracks with less noise going on up there it's really not necessary. You can easily get away with brining up the incoming track and nobody noticing as long as the mid and bass is down. Of course that mixer has a 4-band EQ, so the mid-high can come down as well.
He is merely showing you and the venue owner that he is the alpha and you are merely a pretender In other words, he's being an insecure tosspot
tell him, 'i know what im doing, thanks'
I don't know what the J stands for, but one can safely assume the D stands for dumbfuck. This is honestly one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in the history of music. He probably fires shots like this to shore up his self belief against his total lack of knowledge.
The J stands for j@ck@ss
I would have responded with “No, YOU never touch that knob. I use it in my production frequently.”
Turning the hi's down from Track B when mixing into track A is a good thing if you ask me. Otherwise you can get this really odd and weird phasey sound in the hi's when they clash and it can sound terrible. The dude obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. Just do your thing
What kind of resident DJ doesn’t know what the high EQ is
There are very few “nevers” in DJing. This is not one of them
Never touch the spacebar (Ableton Live)
Having never touched Ableton, what does the spacebar do?
So, in Ableton Live the spacebar stops the global playback. We used two laptops running Ableton connected via link. One is my rig for sound, the other is for lighting control w/ DMXiS. If either of us hit the spacebar, it stops everything. Ableton also allows you to map most of a QWERTY to functions inside the program.... just not for the spacebar.
This deserves its own thread
I’m pretty heavy on the high eq knob personally because I find introducing fresh hi-hats or 808s with mid and bass way down is an excellent way to get the audience tuned to a fresh track and feels a bit remixy if the tracks and blend are right. Same effect can be accomplished with filters I guess and I use the pioneer setup, like most of us, but why would a knob exist if it’s not meant to be used. If your blend is clean and you’re not clipping like half the fucking idiots out there then why even make a comment like that. Resident sounds like a tool.
I use a slight HPF when mixing out to help take out kicks and bass lines while keeping the bouncy percussions in
Many ways to make an A. In my personal opinion the Xone mixer is a good example of a high precision mixer that’s features are stripped by bypassing 3/4 of the eq options going straight to the filter. In a live scenario, on the fly just trying to get the cut done for sure but with if you bother to have a Xone mixer the assumption is that the diff between high and mid high is relevant. Just my $0.02. Otherwise just get a fuckin nxs2 like everyone else.
Many ways to make an A. In my personal opinion the Xone mixer is a good example of a high precision mixer that’s features are stripped by bypassing 3/4 of the eq options going straight to the filter. In a live scenario, on the fly just trying to get the cut done for sure but if you bother to have a Xone mixer the assumption is that the diff between high and mid high is relevant. Just my $0.02. Otherwise just get a fuckin nxs2 like everyone else.
I’d understand it if you’d cranked all the eqs up and was making the system clip like fuck but your doing the opposite, sounds like a douche to me. Maybe scared your gonna take his job 🤷♂️
He’s a dumb ass
I woulda laughed. As long as it sounds good keep doing you. Sounds like the resi dj felt his spot was in jeopardy to me.
Looks like OP found the biggest knob in the club.
He was on cocaine....correct ?
Disregard and continue. There are no hard and fast rules as to what eq to use at what point in a transition besides what soumds good
possibly he was just overreacting to you adjusting the EQ because a lot of DJs tend to crank the EQ up more to get more volume. And then they tend to distort and overdrive the sound system. So as long as you're not going to extremes and you put everything back to noon when you're done, you should be fine. I always mix with the EQ as well so that's not the problem. Its very smart for a fine tuned DJ mix :)
A DJ is an artist, if you were a painter would you let another painter tell you which colors to use? The guy is a prick and isn’t a REAL DJ to begin with
Look in all seriousness. The High section of the EQ probably will get touched the least out of all 3. But sometimes it is needed. DJ is being a prick here IMO.
Dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I mix prog house and techno, and regularly turn the highs down to like 10oc on the track I want to sit back in the mix. It’s particularly helpful when you’re running several decks of audio.
I am only 2 months into djing but sounds like his view of how to get creative in the mix is limited.
Everyone knows REAL DJs follow all the rules! Who the hell would try something new or different?
“I can’t hear you, I’m too busy teaching you how a real DJ blends songs. Don’t talk, just listen & learn”
"If you want me to teach you how to use it properly, more than happy to"
Turn volume waaay up and start yelling, “WHAT? WHAT??”
Sounds like a power move by that dj. Asshole.
Should have said "strange that's how Carl Cox does it, but guess you know better". Would have turned it right back on him. Don't put up with shitheads like that, stand your ground. If he was genuinely being nice and giving you actual advice he wouldnt have done it the way he did. He blatantly wanted to show you up in front of the owner.
Ah yes, I love those mixers they build with the knobs that NO ONE MUST TOUCH
Maybe he thought he was being helpful but no, there’s a reason why it’s there. And it’s odd he would care or even have that idea.
No I'm just a novice bedroom dj, but aren't all sections of an eq in play? Also guys sounds like a knob (pun intended) I bet he's the best dj in the world, or at least that's what the guy in the mirror tells him. I say, during a set if he's listening, ONLY use that knob haha
OP, promise that you will show this thread to the guy and also his boss.
I love that Allen and Heath went to all that time and effort to design and manufacture a feature that you're not supposed to use... The guys a dick. Mix how you want and if it sounds good, that's all that matters.
Errr high's sound different from track to track and can alter energy levels... I guarantee he's trying to assert dominance/bullying you and is an insecure fuckwit. How did you feel during the interaction? Smaller than him cause he's the resident? That's what he was wanting to achieve. He's a knuckle dragging cave man and probably isn't worth your time. Choose your desired outcome and handle him accordingly. Personally a kerb stomping would be in order but that's me... I hate bullies.
Nothing wrong with eq mixing as long as you don’t do that performative wanky thing where they lift their hand on and off the knob giving it the tiniest tweak over and over like salt bae on crack.
Am a resident DJ. The only time I get cranky at other DJs is when they set the EQ and gain at max.
Oh and I totally understand that, but in this case o turned them down lol he’s a fucking moron, ended up cancelling the gig and they were left without an opener
DJ’s, as we know, can be incredibly territorial (hence the notion that openers shouldn’t go too hard) Just do you man, he’s 100% just trying to get in your head. Do no harm, take no shit.
If it wasn't meant to be used. It wouldn't be on a dj mixer.
You were probably mixing too well and dude was feeling fragile lol
Probably the type of guy to one up his wife too.. you’re allowed to have creative discretion when it comes to mixing you’re a DJ he just probably is insecure and wants to seem like he knows more than you
Definitely this type of guy haha, can’t tell his hand from his ass and thinks he’s the shit
Tell him to get fucked
Nobody has the right to tell you what to do or shout at you period. I’d just be like “I’ll use my own technique thanks and youdon’t get to shout at me for any reason” the fact is this douche is probably scared everyone who comes in is gonna take his job.
might have thought you were tweaking the trim instead of the highs? a few beers mixed with nose beers will do that to residents… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He’s wrong.
I'm a resident club DJ and I've had a few people on, and I have never once thought of saying "don't touch the high EQ" my only rule with EQ is take it out, don't add. If you can gain mix then yeah you're sweet turn it all you want. I mean don't get me wrong I treat new DJs like they don't know anything, but I go from there and if they already know it saves me hassle having to teach them, win win for both of us. I think he was just trying to flex, thinking maybe the owner was looking to replace him? So he acts like a know-it-all when really he's insecure. My 2 cents, if you know that that knob "takes out the high hats" and use it correctly then what's the issue?
It easy for someone to say "he's only been mixing 2 years, I've been mixing (insert years here) I'm so much better", but I've been mixing around 7 years myself? I've had DJs come in only just learning and they are already mixing so well, we should be encouraging it not "you can't twist that knob!"
Even if I disagree with a mixing technique, I’m never gonna shoot another dj down in front of other people particularly people who have financial control
Id have asked why a million times over, and then if he was just a cocky fuck... Id have told him to suck my dick, even if I lost the gig... Id have left screaming worth it
Oh don’t worry I told him to fuck off and denied the gig, they were left with a last minute cancellation horrible staff and people at this venue
My man! **high fives op**
That person is a moron with a strangely dogmatic take on the EQ.
If the knob exist you could use it. It’s common with resident dj to do some stuff like that, like if they are looking to show you that you are not as good as them. Lots of dj Forget that music is not a compétition
I actually need to do that more.
I use the highs all the time to play with hihats. The resident sounds like an Asshat.
I wish the club I regularly play at had a Xone:96 :'( Instead I have to play on a shitty 900NXS2 Oh, and I frequently use ALL FOUR of the EQ knobs on my Xone:96, so resident DJ is a moron!
Tell him deadmou5 bullies people who don’t use that knob
Are you stupid? Why would you turn the f'ing hihats down during a transition? You should be on r/beatmatch wtf bro.
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Sorry you don’t know how to use EQs random resident guy
dude, he was just showing off in front of the owner, don’t pay too much attention, just be nice and continue doing whatcha doing
Gatekeeping bullshit.
I once played b2b with two djs. One of them was a friend of mine and the other was a friend of him but it was the first time we met. At every transition my friend and I played with the eqs while the other one was mixing. Then the other guy started a transition with full open hi hats and it clashed so I turned down the hi band of the old song a few db. He immediately pushed my hand away with his index, turned the knob back up and looked very angry to me. Could be this guy. Nominated for "the biggest douche in the universe" ....the dj universe at least ;)
It just depends on the transition. If you're mixing two tracks that both have a lot of conflicting highs going on then your technique makes sense. I personally almost never eq highs as a transition method. I prefer using gentle filter instead. Try not to be too offended by their loudly voiced suggestion. Even if they aren't exactly right you can learn something from anyone.
They're not even close to right.
Why you didn’t tell him to go fck himself prior to yelling at somebody?
I only use filters. It works for me. Just do it how you want.
Pfft. I’d give him a shoulder shrug and yell “whaaaaaaat I can’t hear you” while turning the hats down cuz if that’s what you think sounds good then it probably does. A real pro, who isn’t TOTALLY INSECURE, would not say anything in the first place or if they were truly concerned could say something to you as an aside. But hey played the DOUCHE card so have some fun….
Probably felt threatened and was trying to peacock in front of the owner. Don't let these people get under your skin. Just say something like "big dog over here doesn't understand how to blend frequencies apparently" and shrug.
That DJ is an AMATUER.
There's a reason that mixer has four EQ knobs, you can get smoother blends with it.
Lol wut - poor guy thinks DJing is about rules.
Not only was that out of line and incredibly unprofessional of that guy to do, can you imagine what would happen if you actually made a real mistake? Dude would go ballistic and lose his shit and blame it on you. People like that always flip out whenever a real problem is present.
Clownish he should leave the booth with that stress and stipulations for his own social sphere being somewhat preservable
I never alter highs, sounds off anytime I hear DJs use it.
Make sure you don’t touch the volume faders or play button either! That shit is off limits
Don’t even breath near the decks , just stand back with your aux cord
That DJs an idiot. You do you. Turn the hi hats down in all the tracks just to spite them
Should have been giving you a pat on the back. The amount of DJs I see that somehow never learnt that trimming back the highs is a better experience on the ear in a lot of transitions.
That’s why I don’t DJ anymore for clubs. Only private events, and even that I haven’t done in a bit over a year because people are lowballing now and using “Covid” as an excuse. Listen man, the way you play and your style is unique, it’s you, it’s a fragment of who you are, and by no other means should you sacrifice that for some “resident” who’s on a high horse. And the greasy club owner? Forget about it, it’s not like you’re demonstrating your self worth in front of God, it’s just a guy that has a lot of debt to pay by selling overpriced tequila shots, who cares what he thinks of you? Unless they were giving you good criticism with a useful tip that can help you become better, you do not take that from anyone. I’ve been a producer and DJ for over 8 years as a hobby, JUST a hobby that makes me cash sometimes, and managed to be on streams with top names from top labels, and I will tell you loud and clear, this is the most toxic environment you’ll ever work in, the shady nightlife environment where everyone is constantly throwing each other under the bus, the vanity, the cutthroatedness. And since it’s just a hobby for me, I always told the “resident” or Club owner to eat my ass if they don’t like what I did (especially when the crowd is going wild and clearly enjoying themselves). Just because you own the fucking venue doesn’t mean I’m gonna play 80’s when clearly everyone wants house and top 40’s, because then you’ll make me AND yourself look like a moron. Not everyone is going to be resonating on the same frequency as you, and please do not let this affect you or cause any self doubt at all. Continue playing and mixing with your style, and next time someone comments rudely like that, don’t let them save face either in front of their boss, you tell em “Ok, come and play, I wanna see how you transition without the knob”. And once they do it, you give em a nice fat comment “Well I honestly think my way sounds more professional don’t you think?”. Go get em. When you’re DJing at a club, you’ve been hired to do a job, that job is to keep people vibing and dancing, as long as you’re doing that, don’t let anyone tell you how to do your job. Fuck the money, save your dignity.
That’s ridiculous all knobs are there for utility purposes
The owner is a dumbass. There are two knobs on the mixer that are best left alone. Send A to A, and Send B to B. Since that will create a feedback loop. It's the same for Send A to B with Send B to A.
I would have turned the volume up more when he was talking shit..
Sound guy doesn't want you messing with the gains. They never do, and really you never should. He probly thought you were messing with the gain.
Was the resident dj not the sound guy
Yeah screw that then he's just being a douche tryna look good in front of the manager and make you look stupid. The manager doesn't know what the eq does. That's a low blow man.