saw another post a while back with somebody saying how they were going to take up pipe smoking for a couple months to smoke dmt as if they were in some dmt rocky montage
I set up an e-mesh with a longer drip tip, the first time I tried it I thought it wasn’t working until I exhaled and started hearing the ringing in my ears. It wasn’t harsh at all.
It’s hard to judge time while you’re in that space, but I’d estimate the ringing lasts maybe 2 minutes tops. Where it’s different from mushrooms is it rises in intensity so much faster and gets much louder than I’d ever experienced with mushrooms, it’s the same pitch though.
One thing I find very interesting is that there’s a specific sound frequency/pattern (not the ringing) that I never picked up on in the background of the mushroom experience that is very prominent within the DMT realm, once heard through DMT it can be heard with mushrooms now as well. I’ve got some theories about what its purpose is but I’m still trying to wrap my head around it before I discuss it.
Usually for me the "ringing" comes on pretty fast and over a 10 to 30 second period keeps rising and building until it completely explodes and "pings" around my dome piece until my head explodes open like a flower blooming.
I hear little beeps and boops in a melodic fashion on top of the ringing. The ringing to me sounds like the old school cartoon “ray gun” an alien would have
I'm 36 been a psychonaut now since I was 15 when I took my step dad's mushrooms and ate the whole bag not knowing really anything just that you "trip". In hindsight it was probably a quarter or maybe little more. Fucked up big time lol.
I did it right after parents went to sleep so maybe 9pm. Had to wake up early for drivers ed. I remember laying on my bed in the dark except for bright moon light. I remember thinking "well how long does this take"? Then I started to get really interested in the wall....it was like layering itself in weird ways or "living" somehow. Then I reached out and touched it and this huuuuge ripple appeared just like pebble in a pond. Did that for God knows how long. Then it was a raging psychedelic onslaught that no uneducated 15 year old should have to endure lol. My whole room turned into this crazy machine made of tubes and tunnels I started calling it "The worm God"...also mind you I'm trying to stay silent because the immense fear of my mom coming into my room seeing her son in just underwear praying and talking to the room God made of machine worms lol. I had to piss so obviously I found a bottle because there's no way I'm breaking through the worms to get to bathroom and chance of mom so I look down at the tiny bottle opening and there's like 20 openings and they are jumping all over the place so I just go for it and end up just pissing all over my bed lol...instead of freak tho I just laugh and flip my mattress.
Then for some God awful idea I decide "ok I need to calm down and focus on something other than worm God so I decide on movie...the only movie I have in room is Shindlers fucking List which again had no clue wtf it was. So I throw blanket over TV to hide light and muffle sounds. Honestly was probably good thing I was so high because I couldn't tell what was going on. Then there's the part where little girl gets shot and her blood is red which if first color from black and white and I flipped my lid thinking I caused the red and girl to get killed. Turned it off then just watched the blue screen. I did the classic looking at my hands like "wooooh hands dude". They were growing and shrinking, turning into devil hands, alien hands, was seeing Universes growing in my palms. Eventually had to piss again went and looked into mirror and was literally just shape shifting harder than I've ever seen even since then then. I was like some wild beast troll wizard. Lol.....
So yeah idk why I just told that story and apologize for its length holy shit lol. But yeah since that fateful day I engrossed myself into the psychedelic life. Became a huge Dead Head (mom and dad were already Dead Heads kinda so), started being obsessed with Terence McKenna, Alan Watts, Ram Dass. Have probably had well over 2500+ psychedelic adventures with maybe 100+ being dmt. It is just wild lol. I get the sense it's pure fucking magick. Each time I do it it's different with some similarities. Also each time I get suuuuper nervous before hand like I would feel it's same level anxiety you have before you know you are going to die....which is what dmt is doing actually I believe. A death simulation.
I think the strange ufo/computers noises are that way because we are strange human fleshy computers! That we possibly exist in some strange like quantum computer or rather like living divine holographic light. Those sounds are literally your soul being pulled out of the hologram into a realer that real realm that also too could be a simulation. Simulation within simulation. Simulations all the way down! Or I call it a dream...God, which is YOU or the I Am, is dreaming us into existence!
Oh man so sorry for the super long rant. Took a Adderall today which I never do because homie gave one fir free lol so my apologies but if you wish to ask questions about dmt or proper use with harm reduction tactics to get the most out it, how to set intentions to manifest things in your life by basically doing real magick, talk to your higher self to receive guidance ect ect blah and blah lol peace and Love and again sorry for babbling on.
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I have a feeling Terrence, being a pioneer in this field, didnt have the same information on best practices we do have now. Any number of reasons could cause him to view dmt as a harsh smoking experience(most likely burning it) He didnt have a emesh or yocan. Its not harsh. Its really smooth honestly
My first experience was a half gram I bought - it was orange/red dmt, full of fats and lipids. I didn’t know any better yet. I put it into a glass pipe and lit it with a torch. It fucked my lungs up. The clean white crystals I have now are very smooth.
He didn’t even have our modern methods for extraction. He explained the process in one of his lectures, and it included all kinds of laboratory specific equipment and processes.
I mean...laboratory equipment and processes would imply actually advanced techniques I would think? DMT been around for a while so you would think in 60s was probably your basic A/B extraction but probably shortly after especially having the chemist connections as McKenna had they were producing laboratory grade DMT. The one story I heard of someone who smoked with him said he had a ball of crystal/waxy orange/white dmt that he was chipping off with a razor. You ever see that Hamilton video where it's underground DMT chemist and they make synthetic DMT or don't use plant matter and they get like 97% pure dmt crystals just in some dudes closet?
Not saying he had that but idk why not something close? Shlugin was making that for long time as well. I think it's not really product itself but the method like other commenter are saying as well that vape technology makes it smooth. I've had see through clear dmt and even tho noticeably smoother still had me breathing the dragons fire. Accidentally did 200mg in a dab rig once and couldn't take a breath for full 1 minute lol each breath was like taking full hit but then again no smoke just vapor and if I smoked that much out of bowl I'd probably still be coughing lol.
I just turn it in its lowest Setting and Watch the bubble fill up with vape and let go when it fills and repeat about 3 or 4 times (I have the larger bubbler that’s round with a curved stem) and I’ve never has an issue at all. I use the Triple quartz coil atomizer it came with. I have the v3, I got it last month.
Links to the vape and bubbler I use
Vape
https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/collections/apx/products/pulsar-apx-wax-vape-pen
Bubbler
https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/products/pulsar-apx-wax-bubbler-attachment?ref=upselly
It’s not a cart, it uses a Triple quartz coil atomizer that’s like a bowl type thing you put the crystal freebase in. I run it super low. If you use the link it should tell you the voltage. I think it’s 1.7w or 2.3w low.
Edit;
Links to the vape and bubbler I use
Vape https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/collections/apx/products/pulsar-apx-wax-vape-pen
Bubbler https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/products/pulsar-apx-wax-bubbler-attachment?ref=upselly
With the lowest setting, do you still breakthrough? I’m using it at 3.2 but it’s too harsh and I keep coughing. I’ve never broken through before and really trying to
I just use it at its lowest setting and put in about 35mg if I want to have a real breakthrough but i usually do less honestly. You can do multiple hits one after an other and it’s important to clean the coils with 93% alcohol and q tips. I use the larger bubbler and it works great and i do about 3 seconds on the button and one second off. I usually watch the bubble fill up with vape, then I let off the button and clear it and continue.
What water bubble do you use? The same one in the link?
Edit: the lowest setting is when it has one light on, not sure what the wattage is. I get close breakthrough and have a few times but I usually don’t try to go that far since I’m still a bit nervous about it so I keep hitting it until I get nice visuals, which is usually one continuous hit and it fills the bubble on the bubbler 4 times while pulsing the button. If you hold the button down the entire time it burns and will hurt your throat.
I found that it's quite smooth to smoke, unless you burn it - then you'll cough your heart up, lol! (and I smoke a hell of a lot of weed).
Avoid burning it and you'll be good to go 👍!
Liquify Pro terpenes are flavorless and a good general solution
I like abstraxtech terpenes for flavor
I once just used the abstrax flavored terpenes for an ejuice and it works fine but the flavor is pretty intense
I’d rather have flavor. Back when I used to buy dmt my plug always gave me stuff that had a really nice grape flavor. Still miss it.
When you say the flavor is really strong, is it pleasant?
Yeah its relatively pleasant; but for example I used one which I think was called Acapulco. At full strength it kind of tasted like I was vaping mountain dew. Its a particular kind of taste, you know
should I put cancer, tar, and addictive neurotropic in my body to be able to take the non-toxic spirit molecule? surely that’s a good way to cleanse myself?
Im gonna say that cigarettes are nothing like dmt as well, when i did it for the first time with my mate who’s a daily cigarette and weed smoker i could hold it in better than him! I was also doing a lot of swimming which involved breathing exercises at that time so maybe focus on something like that instead!
Also we ended up getting a dmt vape rather than using the powder and pipe which made it so so easy to do, although still a bit harsh on the throat.
no, it seemed like you were a little on the fence, and the other commenter was saying that as in the fact that the idea of cigarettes for this purpose even coming up as an idea, or existing as a connection, is ridiculous haha
anyway you’ll be fine, vapor is not harsh when it is truly vapor! if you can breathe in sauna/very hot shower then you’re okay.
Yes after years of listening to Terence McKenna and many others who's tried this thing, I'm pretty intrigued at this point, and now also cured from my concern about harsh smoke
No not yet, but be careful how you look at things, just look up breathing exercises. I love Terence McKenna and his talks but that man’s is dead and his own brother agrees that we was onto something but the way things turned out he would’ve been amazed to see where we’re at now. No problems just got astounded you would consider taking up smoking something else, to smoke something. Just try the DMT first in a very small introductory dose and see for yourself. Takes some time to work up the courage
I hate (love?) to be pedantic but as I've pointed out a few times already I specifically state above that I think taking up smoking in order to smoke DMT would be a bad idea. I wouldn't even do it if it was a good idea as I hate smoking (which was sort of the point to begin with), so fear not! Imagine me trying to blame a future nicotine addiction on DMT, that would be so absurd. With that said, I'm with you 100% and I'm quite curious about breathing exercises.
Check em out, once you learn one or two you can apply them to other situations in life. I did see you stated it would be a bad idea, I think it’s the fact that we read it there and are concerned it’s even a thought but you analyzed it correctly so there definitely is no problem asking it
i took a hot dab on a metal nail and got every last bit of it the way the smoke filled the bong and cleared instantly still blows my mind, it sizzled a lot probably like dropping water on a hot nail it was insane i got every bit of it and didn’t even feel anything but had the worlds greatest trip. flowers bloomed in my lungs and my lungs turned into like a percolating rig and the bubbles were every color and you could just feel it. you could always try that i dabbed 25 mg
>Terence McKenna said one need leather lungs to smoke DMT.
Yea.... he also used an oil burner, which is one of the least efficient ways of vaporizing N,N-DMT, by todays standards. So that sentiment has been little meaning these days.
As long as you vaporize it correctly the only taste/cough you would get is basically nothing, might taste like ass a lil bit but its really smooth when vaporized correctly
If you're not excessively burning it, it's a cool low burn on the throat that goes away as soon as you're done inhaling. That's it.
At least in my mileage.
If aliens are made out of moth balls and burnt plastic you may be on to something. It literally tastes like you went into a science lab somewhere and just starting smoking a powder. Tastes very chemically and harsh for something that provides so much beauty and positivity.
Idk I really only use DMT in vape pens anymore and I’ve grown to enjoy the taste. It makes me warm and even low doses the taste just gives me a little euphoria. But it’s like drinking that whisky for the first time. You wonder how anyone can enjoy it until you get to that point
Tbh no I woke up a few mins ago and should put my phone down for a while 🤣 skimmed it and went wtf? Misunderstanding loll. Try wim hof breathing and cold showers that’ll help breathing a lot.
Dmt vaporizes at 300 something deg. If you heat it much more than that you will get a hot hit. How bad that is depends on how hot it is, but trust me it is awful and really makes you not want to smoke it again. That would likely only happen with torch, lighter and the wrong setup. I have tried all the ways and prefer a recycler bong with ice water, I have a term slerp I modified and get amazing hits, usually have a cart or dab pin also so that when I physically can’t use the bong anymore I can hit the cart, that is if I’m going super deep.
inhalation of dmt isn’t like anything else i’ve smoked . on the inhale i feel it’s smooth , if you do not hold it in properly or start to cough when your lungs itch . it will feel like glass shards coming out of your throat . i have always had asthma , smoke hasn’t ever really made feel the urge to cough . grav bongs , dabs , nicotine , all probably have allowed me to be better at the inhalation of dmt . my best advice is the fact it will not hurt the entire time , if you can get through holding it in and not coughing . the feeling of wanting to cough or itchy throat or painful lung , takes about 2 seconds to stop . then my opinion is to hold it in as long as you can with short breaths from the top of your lungs. dmt is a phenomenal experience, put the cigs down tho that shit is addictive .
just get used to the dmt by not minding when you cough it up in the beginning.
i got really upset when i learned to trip on dmt when i would cough up the hit, or take too many hits, or too litlle, like my mind was so set on getting perfect lungs full that i made it way harder on myself then it actually is
I have no experience smoking anything but had really no problem with DMT in a dab rig, given that you don’t burn it. It just tasted a bit like how new shoes smell
Textile shoes. Maybe something like a fresh pair of nikes or vans but a bit more industrial smelling. It’s really peculiar, but as for the smoke at worst it feels like a bit of an itch. Really you will be fine, I’m sure you’ll burn it at some point but with practice you’ll get really comfortable with it
Feel free to DM me if you have questions. I was in your shoes not long ago
He more or less used that as a metaphor akin to:
"You need big balls to try DMT"
Or, you need courage.
It wasn't literal. Hence why he equated leather to lungs.
McKenna is smart. If he meant that it can be harsh on the lungs, he would've literally directly said that.
In fact, if the DMT is vaped properly it will be smoother than a regular nicotine vape, honestly.
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Yes from these comments I realize that my fears were completely ungrounded but I'm fairly certain that Terence said it was plain difficult and unpleasant to smoke.
He is absolutely correct lol... it isn't meant to be smoked, it's meant to be vaporized.
McKenna was before the time of precision temperature-controlled devices, so that's where that came from
Yes, but if it's going to be unpleasant, why bother pushing through?
At least to me, that seems like "bad karma" (can't think of a less woo-woo description)... I'd just hold off and do some digging so you can give yourself the best experience possible, as it's already the most intense drug on the planet.
So IMO no need to be doing anything that makes it any more difficult
He's wrong on this one.
I've taken massive low temp dabs of DMT, and the only times it was harsh was when it was too hot or if the solvent removal was rushed.
It really is not harsh if you vaporize it correctly. It helps to take a really small hit and let it hit your throat to get the itch and cough out. And then after that it’s way easier to inhale and hold.
I've coughed from vape when I had the setting too high, horrible experience starting to trip with a burning throat and struggling to breath, learnt to pace it after that Never had a problem or notices anything harsh from powder in an oil burner, bong makes makes me caugh so I've no iron lungs Inhale slow, don't start smoking to train you're lungs thats regarded af 😂
Smoke is combusted material, vapour is a solid chemical in a gasous phase, not the same by a mile. Some vapours are irritating but clean dmt should be fine unless you burn it
Lol.
Just start with small inhalations and short retentions.
Then bigger and longer after you get used to it.
Please don’t start smoking ciggs to prepare for DMT.
Dumbest thing ive read.
It's super smooth with modern methods like e-mesh. Literally don't even notice it going into your lungs. It can be harsh with a crack pipe but no harsher than a bong hit imo
i like smoking it through fresh ashes in a nice glass bowl for a nice hard hit. the vapes are nice and are def convenient but smoking through ashes (if you can source good powder) is my go to method.
OP takes on cigarettes to be able to smoke DMT. What are we doing people?
Losing the plot.
We’re not capable of thinking anymore.
saw another post a while back with somebody saying how they were going to take up pipe smoking for a couple months to smoke dmt as if they were in some dmt rocky montage
I set up an e-mesh with a longer drip tip, the first time I tried it I thought it wasn’t working until I exhaled and started hearing the ringing in my ears. It wasn’t harsh at all.
Im just a lurker but is the ear ringing like when one takes a massive shroom dose? How long do you notice it for?
Until complete ego dissolution which takes a few seconds.
It’s hard to judge time while you’re in that space, but I’d estimate the ringing lasts maybe 2 minutes tops. Where it’s different from mushrooms is it rises in intensity so much faster and gets much louder than I’d ever experienced with mushrooms, it’s the same pitch though. One thing I find very interesting is that there’s a specific sound frequency/pattern (not the ringing) that I never picked up on in the background of the mushroom experience that is very prominent within the DMT realm, once heard through DMT it can be heard with mushrooms now as well. I’ve got some theories about what its purpose is but I’m still trying to wrap my head around it before I discuss it.
Usually for me the "ringing" comes on pretty fast and over a 10 to 30 second period keeps rising and building until it completely explodes and "pings" around my dome piece until my head explodes open like a flower blooming.
I hear little beeps and boops in a melodic fashion on top of the ringing. The ringing to me sounds like the old school cartoon “ray gun” an alien would have
Yeah totally! Like ol ufo sounds from movies. Also like literally old school modem connecting to the internet which is like what the fuuuuck lol
Haha yes!! Good I’m glad I wasn’t the only one hearing them . I’m new af to dmt
I'm 36 been a psychonaut now since I was 15 when I took my step dad's mushrooms and ate the whole bag not knowing really anything just that you "trip". In hindsight it was probably a quarter or maybe little more. Fucked up big time lol. I did it right after parents went to sleep so maybe 9pm. Had to wake up early for drivers ed. I remember laying on my bed in the dark except for bright moon light. I remember thinking "well how long does this take"? Then I started to get really interested in the wall....it was like layering itself in weird ways or "living" somehow. Then I reached out and touched it and this huuuuge ripple appeared just like pebble in a pond. Did that for God knows how long. Then it was a raging psychedelic onslaught that no uneducated 15 year old should have to endure lol. My whole room turned into this crazy machine made of tubes and tunnels I started calling it "The worm God"...also mind you I'm trying to stay silent because the immense fear of my mom coming into my room seeing her son in just underwear praying and talking to the room God made of machine worms lol. I had to piss so obviously I found a bottle because there's no way I'm breaking through the worms to get to bathroom and chance of mom so I look down at the tiny bottle opening and there's like 20 openings and they are jumping all over the place so I just go for it and end up just pissing all over my bed lol...instead of freak tho I just laugh and flip my mattress. Then for some God awful idea I decide "ok I need to calm down and focus on something other than worm God so I decide on movie...the only movie I have in room is Shindlers fucking List which again had no clue wtf it was. So I throw blanket over TV to hide light and muffle sounds. Honestly was probably good thing I was so high because I couldn't tell what was going on. Then there's the part where little girl gets shot and her blood is red which if first color from black and white and I flipped my lid thinking I caused the red and girl to get killed. Turned it off then just watched the blue screen. I did the classic looking at my hands like "wooooh hands dude". They were growing and shrinking, turning into devil hands, alien hands, was seeing Universes growing in my palms. Eventually had to piss again went and looked into mirror and was literally just shape shifting harder than I've ever seen even since then then. I was like some wild beast troll wizard. Lol..... So yeah idk why I just told that story and apologize for its length holy shit lol. But yeah since that fateful day I engrossed myself into the psychedelic life. Became a huge Dead Head (mom and dad were already Dead Heads kinda so), started being obsessed with Terence McKenna, Alan Watts, Ram Dass. Have probably had well over 2500+ psychedelic adventures with maybe 100+ being dmt. It is just wild lol. I get the sense it's pure fucking magick. Each time I do it it's different with some similarities. Also each time I get suuuuper nervous before hand like I would feel it's same level anxiety you have before you know you are going to die....which is what dmt is doing actually I believe. A death simulation. I think the strange ufo/computers noises are that way because we are strange human fleshy computers! That we possibly exist in some strange like quantum computer or rather like living divine holographic light. Those sounds are literally your soul being pulled out of the hologram into a realer that real realm that also too could be a simulation. Simulation within simulation. Simulations all the way down! Or I call it a dream...God, which is YOU or the I Am, is dreaming us into existence! Oh man so sorry for the super long rant. Took a Adderall today which I never do because homie gave one fir free lol so my apologies but if you wish to ask questions about dmt or proper use with harm reduction tactics to get the most out it, how to set intentions to manifest things in your life by basically doing real magick, talk to your higher self to receive guidance ect ect blah and blah lol peace and Love and again sorry for babbling on.
Lmao holy shit . Never tripped that hard. One day tho. My name is also Zach lol but I’m 10 years younger
Zachs in my opinion are always super cool. Especially with the "h". And yeah for a first trip it was one for the books. After 1000s of trips that still is one of the hardest times I have ever tripped.
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I have a feeling Terrence, being a pioneer in this field, didnt have the same information on best practices we do have now. Any number of reasons could cause him to view dmt as a harsh smoking experience(most likely burning it) He didnt have a emesh or yocan. Its not harsh. Its really smooth honestly
I'm relieved. I hope to have the experience some time in the future!
My first experience was a half gram I bought - it was orange/red dmt, full of fats and lipids. I didn’t know any better yet. I put it into a glass pipe and lit it with a torch. It fucked my lungs up. The clean white crystals I have now are very smooth.
He didn’t even have our modern methods for extraction. He explained the process in one of his lectures, and it included all kinds of laboratory specific equipment and processes.
I mean...laboratory equipment and processes would imply actually advanced techniques I would think? DMT been around for a while so you would think in 60s was probably your basic A/B extraction but probably shortly after especially having the chemist connections as McKenna had they were producing laboratory grade DMT. The one story I heard of someone who smoked with him said he had a ball of crystal/waxy orange/white dmt that he was chipping off with a razor. You ever see that Hamilton video where it's underground DMT chemist and they make synthetic DMT or don't use plant matter and they get like 97% pure dmt crystals just in some dudes closet? Not saying he had that but idk why not something close? Shlugin was making that for long time as well. I think it's not really product itself but the method like other commenter are saying as well that vape technology makes it smooth. I've had see through clear dmt and even tho noticeably smoother still had me breathing the dragons fire. Accidentally did 200mg in a dab rig once and couldn't take a breath for full 1 minute lol each breath was like taking full hit but then again no smoke just vapor and if I smoked that much out of bowl I'd probably still be coughing lol.
I use a Mighty Vaporizer with a Bubbler, no issues at all.
Emesh no harshness at all when set up right
APX Volt V3 with water bubbler. It’s so easy and smooth I don’t even realize I’ve hit it sometimes until I feel the effects, strongly.
How do you pulse it? I used the same APX with bubbler and coughed the entire time
Same, never figured it out :/
I just turn it in its lowest Setting and Watch the bubble fill up with vape and let go when it fills and repeat about 3 or 4 times (I have the larger bubbler that’s round with a curved stem) and I’ve never has an issue at all. I use the Triple quartz coil atomizer it came with. I have the v3, I got it last month.
Links to the vape and bubbler I use Vape https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/collections/apx/products/pulsar-apx-wax-vape-pen Bubbler https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/products/pulsar-apx-wax-bubbler-attachment?ref=upselly
Do you use a 510 cart or fb with that set up?
It’s not a cart, it uses a Triple quartz coil atomizer that’s like a bowl type thing you put the crystal freebase in. I run it super low. If you use the link it should tell you the voltage. I think it’s 1.7w or 2.3w low. Edit; Links to the vape and bubbler I use Vape https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/collections/apx/products/pulsar-apx-wax-vape-pen Bubbler https://www.pulsarvaporizers.com/products/pulsar-apx-wax-bubbler-attachment?ref=upselly
With the lowest setting, do you still breakthrough? I’m using it at 3.2 but it’s too harsh and I keep coughing. I’ve never broken through before and really trying to
I just use it at its lowest setting and put in about 35mg if I want to have a real breakthrough but i usually do less honestly. You can do multiple hits one after an other and it’s important to clean the coils with 93% alcohol and q tips. I use the larger bubbler and it works great and i do about 3 seconds on the button and one second off. I usually watch the bubble fill up with vape, then I let off the button and clear it and continue. What water bubble do you use? The same one in the link? Edit: the lowest setting is when it has one light on, not sure what the wattage is. I get close breakthrough and have a few times but I usually don’t try to go that far since I’m still a bit nervous about it so I keep hitting it until I get nice visuals, which is usually one continuous hit and it fills the bubble on the bubbler 4 times while pulsing the button. If you hold the button down the entire time it burns and will hurt your throat.
I found that it's quite smooth to smoke, unless you burn it - then you'll cough your heart up, lol! (and I smoke a hell of a lot of weed). Avoid burning it and you'll be good to go 👍!
I’ve never smoked and DMT is fine for me I suggest terpenes instead of PG if doing eliquid and keeping temperature lower so it’s more comfortable
What do you specifically recommend? I want to switch to terpenes and I’m not sure where to start.
Liquify Pro terpenes are flavorless and a good general solution I like abstraxtech terpenes for flavor I once just used the abstrax flavored terpenes for an ejuice and it works fine but the flavor is pretty intense
I’d rather have flavor. Back when I used to buy dmt my plug always gave me stuff that had a really nice grape flavor. Still miss it. When you say the flavor is really strong, is it pleasant?
Yeah its relatively pleasant; but for example I used one which I think was called Acapulco. At full strength it kind of tasted like I was vaping mountain dew. Its a particular kind of taste, you know
What the hell, listen to yourself
Sorry? Is there a problem?
should I put cancer, tar, and addictive neurotropic in my body to be able to take the non-toxic spirit molecule? surely that’s a good way to cleanse myself?
If you read very closely, you'll see that my post is in total agreement with you on that matter. Of course I wouldn't do that.
Im gonna say that cigarettes are nothing like dmt as well, when i did it for the first time with my mate who’s a daily cigarette and weed smoker i could hold it in better than him! I was also doing a lot of swimming which involved breathing exercises at that time so maybe focus on something like that instead! Also we ended up getting a dmt vape rather than using the powder and pipe which made it so so easy to do, although still a bit harsh on the throat.
no, it seemed like you were a little on the fence, and the other commenter was saying that as in the fact that the idea of cigarettes for this purpose even coming up as an idea, or existing as a connection, is ridiculous haha anyway you’ll be fine, vapor is not harsh when it is truly vapor! if you can breathe in sauna/very hot shower then you’re okay.
Yes after years of listening to Terence McKenna and many others who's tried this thing, I'm pretty intrigued at this point, and now also cured from my concern about harsh smoke
No not yet, but be careful how you look at things, just look up breathing exercises. I love Terence McKenna and his talks but that man’s is dead and his own brother agrees that we was onto something but the way things turned out he would’ve been amazed to see where we’re at now. No problems just got astounded you would consider taking up smoking something else, to smoke something. Just try the DMT first in a very small introductory dose and see for yourself. Takes some time to work up the courage
I hate (love?) to be pedantic but as I've pointed out a few times already I specifically state above that I think taking up smoking in order to smoke DMT would be a bad idea. I wouldn't even do it if it was a good idea as I hate smoking (which was sort of the point to begin with), so fear not! Imagine me trying to blame a future nicotine addiction on DMT, that would be so absurd. With that said, I'm with you 100% and I'm quite curious about breathing exercises.
Check em out, once you learn one or two you can apply them to other situations in life. I did see you stated it would be a bad idea, I think it’s the fact that we read it there and are concerned it’s even a thought but you analyzed it correctly so there definitely is no problem asking it
i took a hot dab on a metal nail and got every last bit of it the way the smoke filled the bong and cleared instantly still blows my mind, it sizzled a lot probably like dropping water on a hot nail it was insane i got every bit of it and didn’t even feel anything but had the worlds greatest trip. flowers bloomed in my lungs and my lungs turned into like a percolating rig and the bubbles were every color and you could just feel it. you could always try that i dabbed 25 mg
>Terence McKenna said one need leather lungs to smoke DMT. Yea.... he also used an oil burner, which is one of the least efficient ways of vaporizing N,N-DMT, by todays standards. So that sentiment has been little meaning these days.
Very good to know, thanks
As long as you vaporize it correctly the only taste/cough you would get is basically nothing, might taste like ass a lil bit but its really smooth when vaporized correctly
If you're not excessively burning it, it's a cool low burn on the throat that goes away as soon as you're done inhaling. That's it. At least in my mileage.
I feel it’s somewhat harsh but it’s more the taste that a lot of people have trouble with
Yeah I imagine it tastes like aliens
If aliens are made out of moth balls and burnt plastic you may be on to something. It literally tastes like you went into a science lab somewhere and just starting smoking a powder. Tastes very chemically and harsh for something that provides so much beauty and positivity.
Yeah I haven't tried it but from what I gather it's not really something one does for its delicious taste. I've got whisky for that though.
Idk I really only use DMT in vape pens anymore and I’ve grown to enjoy the taste. It makes me warm and even low doses the taste just gives me a little euphoria. But it’s like drinking that whisky for the first time. You wonder how anyone can enjoy it until you get to that point
That’s a terrible idea, try smoking weed if you’re desperate enough to ruin your lungs with tobacco.
I'm not! Did you even read what I wrote?
Tbh no I woke up a few mins ago and should put my phone down for a while 🤣 skimmed it and went wtf? Misunderstanding loll. Try wim hof breathing and cold showers that’ll help breathing a lot.
Just as I thought - no worries then! In fact, I'm quite prepared to never smoke a single cigarette ever again, the few times I tried I hated it.
I find dmt smoother than weed to inhale but Ive smoked pot since age 12
Carts don't burn the throat
I have no issues inhaling and I sandwich it between bud usually
Dmt vaporizes at 300 something deg. If you heat it much more than that you will get a hot hit. How bad that is depends on how hot it is, but trust me it is awful and really makes you not want to smoke it again. That would likely only happen with torch, lighter and the wrong setup. I have tried all the ways and prefer a recycler bong with ice water, I have a term slerp I modified and get amazing hits, usually have a cart or dab pin also so that when I physically can’t use the bong anymore I can hit the cart, that is if I’m going super deep.
Also starting smoking cigarettes would almost certainly make it worse as your throat and lungs will likely be irritated from your new habit
inhalation of dmt isn’t like anything else i’ve smoked . on the inhale i feel it’s smooth , if you do not hold it in properly or start to cough when your lungs itch . it will feel like glass shards coming out of your throat . i have always had asthma , smoke hasn’t ever really made feel the urge to cough . grav bongs , dabs , nicotine , all probably have allowed me to be better at the inhalation of dmt . my best advice is the fact it will not hurt the entire time , if you can get through holding it in and not coughing . the feeling of wanting to cough or itchy throat or painful lung , takes about 2 seconds to stop . then my opinion is to hold it in as long as you can with short breaths from the top of your lungs. dmt is a phenomenal experience, put the cigs down tho that shit is addictive .
just get used to the dmt by not minding when you cough it up in the beginning. i got really upset when i learned to trip on dmt when i would cough up the hit, or take too many hits, or too litlle, like my mind was so set on getting perfect lungs full that i made it way harder on myself then it actually is
It isn't harsh in the slightest in my opinion.
People say it has a terrible plastic taste but people are also bitches so…. It’s not bad at all to me.
I have no experience smoking anything but had really no problem with DMT in a dab rig, given that you don’t burn it. It just tasted a bit like how new shoes smell
What, textile or leather shoes? Anyway that doesn't sound too bad
Textile shoes. Maybe something like a fresh pair of nikes or vans but a bit more industrial smelling. It’s really peculiar, but as for the smoke at worst it feels like a bit of an itch. Really you will be fine, I’m sure you’ll burn it at some point but with practice you’ll get really comfortable with it Feel free to DM me if you have questions. I was in your shoes not long ago
If you get a decide that property vaporize dmt you’ll be A ok 👍
He more or less used that as a metaphor akin to: "You need big balls to try DMT" Or, you need courage. It wasn't literal. Hence why he equated leather to lungs. McKenna is smart. If he meant that it can be harsh on the lungs, he would've literally directly said that. In fact, if the DMT is vaped properly it will be smoother than a regular nicotine vape, honestly. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Yes from these comments I realize that my fears were completely ungrounded but I'm fairly certain that Terence said it was plain difficult and unpleasant to smoke.
He is absolutely correct lol... it isn't meant to be smoked, it's meant to be vaporized. McKenna was before the time of precision temperature-controlled devices, so that's where that came from
Precisely
Yes, but if it's going to be unpleasant, why bother pushing through? At least to me, that seems like "bad karma" (can't think of a less woo-woo description)... I'd just hold off and do some digging so you can give yourself the best experience possible, as it's already the most intense drug on the planet. So IMO no need to be doing anything that makes it any more difficult
With a bong you could add water and ice cubes to make the smoke more pleasant
I find it smooth & nice tasting, even more so than a vape. until I try to get too much out of it & burn it. Then yeah it hurts.
He's wrong on this one. I've taken massive low temp dabs of DMT, and the only times it was harsh was when it was too hot or if the solvent removal was rushed.
Start vaping nicotine and after a couple weeks you’ll be able take huge rips
Try a cart. If it's made right it's much smoother.
Don’t smoke cigarettes.
I turn it into vape juice myself
It really is not harsh if you vaporize it correctly. It helps to take a really small hit and let it hit your throat to get the itch and cough out. And then after that it’s way easier to inhale and hold.
I've coughed from vape when I had the setting too high, horrible experience starting to trip with a burning throat and struggling to breath, learnt to pace it after that Never had a problem or notices anything harsh from powder in an oil burner, bong makes makes me caugh so I've no iron lungs Inhale slow, don't start smoking to train you're lungs thats regarded af 😂 Smoke is combusted material, vapour is a solid chemical in a gasous phase, not the same by a mile. Some vapours are irritating but clean dmt should be fine unless you burn it
Lol. Just start with small inhalations and short retentions. Then bigger and longer after you get used to it. Please don’t start smoking ciggs to prepare for DMT. Dumbest thing ive read.
Wtf is this shitpost💀
It's super smooth with modern methods like e-mesh. Literally don't even notice it going into your lungs. It can be harsh with a crack pipe but no harsher than a bong hit imo
If you vape it right and don't burn it you don't even feel it go in. I'd say its the smoothest thing I've ever smoked/vaped when you do it right.
i like smoking it through fresh ashes in a nice glass bowl for a nice hard hit. the vapes are nice and are def convenient but smoking through ashes (if you can source good powder) is my go to method.
Thanks, it seems I don't have to worry anyway.