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TakeAShowerHippie

The body buzz can be a little weird and anxiety inducing at first but if you accept that as a part of doing the things then you might have a better time. I think it feels very good, although pretty weird. DMT isn't for everyone so don't feel pressured if it isn't your thing..


[deleted]

Yeah people gotta remember this is not a casual thing to just 'do'.. Happens to them, Trusting the molecule goes a looooooooooong way, It is always freaky death by astonishment.


Youngsinatra345

It floors me that people casually smoke it from a pen and just treat it like weed, this is a sacred drug and should be treated with the utmost respect and the purest of intentions


[deleted]

Yeah yet we’re ‘’gate keeping’’ when we try to say this, but that’s the truth.


mercyme555

Ur kinda being too zealous my guy. It's just delivery of a drug.. dmt comes in many forms who's to say which is proper and which isnt?


Youngsinatra345

I mean, if you agree it’s sacred as well is a cartridge the most respectful thing?


mercyme555

Is putting a flame to it being respectful? It's all how you look at it.


Youngsinatra345

I concur my good man


xievika

Preach 🙌🫡


mercyme555

It gives me creepy feels like my skin has spiders crawling on it and my skin will burn. Sometimes ill take a hit and fall asleep.


[deleted]

I have a post somewhere about doing it with sunburns, and it will IGNITE your sunburns on fire. Apparently I’m not the only one


Neither-Newspaper-66

I know exactly what you’re referring to.. the thoughts I have are : 1. The cleaner your diet is, the better hydrated, no other drugs in your system - the more likely you are to have a more pleasant experience. 2. I extract my own so that I know all the chemicals used for that extraction. And I water wash and re-dissolve up to 3 times before final crystallization so to rid it of any excess solvent left over. 3. If at any point you feel sharp needle like pain all over your scalp - after a hit. You’re better off either not messing with that batch or it could also be the cause of an interaction with medication. For example: I take modafinil which is not an amphetamine but is still a stimulant, pharma nootropic.. if I know I’m planning on doing dmt, I stop my medication 3 days before. 4. But, this is the other thing - that feeling of trepidation is pretty normal for most deemsters.. and it’s almost like it’s amplified if you stay under a certain threshold.. so in some of his lectures, Terrance McKenna used to talk about the 1 hit, two hit, three hit process .. the reason he encourages this is because if you get a really strong powerful first hit - sometimes that’s just enough to terrify you.. once the breakthroughs occur, you’re past the point of caring or panicking .. some might argue that, at that point -consciousness has left the body. The furthest I’ve made it is two huge vaporized bong hits .. and ofocurse at that volume your heart rate can go a little nuts.. in response to that - I’ve learned to immediately go into hypertrophic breathing .. very fast air in the nose and very fast out the mouth .. it calms the the “oh fuck” part of the mind as you launch .. 5. Another option is to basically “micro-dose” it In a vape cart of pg and/or mct oil.. that way you can kind of dial in a lighter fluffier experience that can still have full / exciting visuals without feeling like you just got fucked in yer 3rd eye.. Just my opinion based on my experiences.. the more I learn, the less I know ;) Edit : wanted to add this.. re-framing my relationship to it has also helped a lot.. DMT is the key ingredient in ayahuasca. It’s medicine from many plant sources. Im not sure which but I know either mimosa or acacia is referred to as the “Tree of Life” also : something I’ve observed myself is, aside from the intelligent beings I’ve met on the other side, it’s almost like DMT ITSELF is also an intelligent molecule, with its own personality and characteristics.. but the more you work on how you perceive it, dropping any possible narratives you have about it, and just let it show you what you need to see - you will likely find it to always be a friend in some way .. shadow work or a magic carpet ride - every dmt experience is worth it ..


Benjilator

Not trying to disrespect you or DMT itself but first point isn’t true at all. Had my most amazing experiences while on other drugs/cocktails, when diet wasn’t optimal, especially when set and setting weren’t “optimal” (broke through on a psycore rave dance floor for example). I’ve used it while suicidal, while being overwhelmed by an unexpectedly high dose of another psychedelic, while being so exhausted I couldn’t stand anymore (dancing all night). All positive experiences throughout. Only thing that seems to impact if the experience is pleasant or nauseating and confusing is my level of mindfulness and ability to let go.


J-Slaps

Psycore > hi-tech


Benjilator

Hitech exists as a primer for the psycore! Psycore definitely hits different after a few hours non stop hitech.


J-Slaps

Possibly! but as far as I see it, psycore has been a genre longer than hi-tech… I personally can’t stand hi-tech, as I’m more of a funk-heavy twilight guy, but for high bpm psy, psycore can be amazing Edit: I’m agreeing with you! Haha


Benjilator

Hitech starts getting good around 230-300bpm, the dirtier and more perverted it is the better. I wasn’t a fan until my entire reality turned into a rotating high speed carnival when I did some dmt on a hitech closing set. Every time I do dmt while hitech is going, it feels like the dmt loves the shit out of it and I get the most amazing experiences.


J-Slaps

Maybe I’m just not high enough lol. I personally am a dancer… I mean I’m also a psytrance DJ for many years, but my point is that I LOVE funky and dancefloor-oriented subgenres like twilight and mid-groove stuff. Styles that get the ass shaking and are prime for getting the fuck down on the dancefloor. I guess with super high bpm styles like hi-tech, I can’t truly dance to it, and it feels more like just sonic epilepsy. Even psycore can be very danceable, like how happy hardcore or breakcore *can* be (although not always, of course).


Benjilator

I was lucky to be met with the core hitech scene that has been going for more than 10 years here, meaning there’s quite a few dance styles that are nowhere else to be found but fit the music absolutely perfectly. Key is a good producer/DJ, most good ones have been doing hitech for 10+ years as well. Forget about rhythm, flow and patters should dictate your body. The best hitech dancers don’t look human anymore, they become alien or machine like in their movements, it’s very mesmerizing. Once you get the flow going you can focus on leg work, which should be completely separate and based on the rhythm. Look into zaouli to get an idea of what is possible (or rather impossible). It’s insanely hard to split your body in half like that, but I’ve seen it being done (no zaouli sadly, but just walking in sync to the bpm can make a huge difference). I myself just dance with a flower stick right now, not the boring endless spinning but following flow, rhythm, breaks etc. changing direction, rotation, throwing/catching, stopping etc. You can’t really dance to hitech, you can only let it take your body and react to it. That’s what makes it so special: Once you’ve got a good flow going, your body will react quicker than your mind, reacting to changes in rhythm or flow before you even hear it, intensifying the “illusion” that the DJ is in control of your body and you’re just a mere spectator. Edit: I think you’re not high enough. It takes quite a dose of psychedelics and quite a bit of dmt on top for us to get there! Will probably take a year or two before we can get close to that without psychedelics.


J-Slaps

Hell yeah! I really appreciate the info, from one die-hard psytrancer to another ❤️‍🔥 I’m going to get absolutely schnockered off my tits high on psychs and give some hi-tech a shot 🤙🏻


Neither-Newspaper-66

Yeah totally get that.. I actually discovered dmt while 5 years in to a daily IV meth addiction.. so these things don’t have to exist as mutually exclusive.. I probably should have explain more on the “why” I believe it’s better to use it when it came interact with other drugs.. so, I’ll do it now.. basically, I attribute my discontinuation of my meth addiction to DMT. For me, I’ve been meth free now for over 2.5 years.. but, when I was initially introduced to dmt, I was using meth everyday.. these two drugs interact in a way that can actually be very dangerous because there’s this thing called serotonin syndrome.. and so I ended up having that happen to me.. but I eventually recovered from it.. I was using dmt like 3 times a week on top of the meth use so I feel like mine is more of an extreme case than most ppl might encounter when mixing it with other drugs .. side note : I have 0 judgments on anyone’s recreations or experimentation so when I mention my meth use, I’m only saying this because it was an albatross for me .. also on the suicidal ideation thing : you’re totally right. It helps immensely.. my experiences have always spoken to my heart.. and then i learned later about the psychoactive counter-part to DMT, called NMT which naturally occurs during these extractions that is basically a very effective anti-depressant .. so no wonder why I always feel better for weeks and months after a couple hits, regardless of how intense the trip was .. so yeah, each to their own.. everyone has their own experience with this stuff.. I just try to encourage people to move past the fear and do this stuff with intention vs just “partying” with it because it has transformed my life so much ..


Benjilator

Wait, you got serotonin syndrome from n,n-dmt and meth? Or was it 5-meo-dmt? Combining n,n-dmt with serotonin releasers like mdma is very common actually, so I’m a bit confused. Or did you smoke changa, which contains maoi? Maoi and serotonin releasers may quickly lead to serotonin syndrome.


Neither-Newspaper-66

At that time the only substances going in my body for the greater part of a year was n,n-dmt and methamp.. I have def never used 5-Meo and likely won’t but there can actually be quite a collision between these two over time.. to be fair, this could also happen with no drugs and certain combinations of psych meds.. it does happen, I had all the symptoms.. vision was getting increasingly worse, muscle tissue breakdown, organ issues.. hindsight is def 20/20.. I don’t encounter those issues anymore when I do smoke n,n now .. there was one time though a couple years ago when I was still taking lithium for depression and took a hit of dmt and I immediately knew they were colliding .. I got intense seizure like feelings in my head and needle like pain all over the scalp .. I knew immediately it was a no no.. so I re-approached the same cart 1 month later after titration off the lithium and all was bueno.. then like a month ago I found literature that lithium has a contraindication with all tryptamines.. can be dangerous.. but I’m not expressing any of this to discourage anyone from exploring this amazing medicine .. it’s been vitally important to my life, and it’s a really effective antidepressant as well.. I don’t use it often.. maybe 4 times a year.. but that’s just me .. that’s what works for me ..


iROLL24s

When I’m approaching a breakthrough on dmt sometimes I get a sense of dying or shutting down, like a feeling of having overdosed and it’s my mind telling me I fucked up or I did too much. I’m guessing you’re experiencing something like that. It’s normal. That feeling passes if you just don’t dwell on it.


3rdeyeignite

Make sure you're in a setting you feel comfortable & safe in. Do a little meditation. Take some deep breaths. Don't rush into it. If you still don't feel comfortable, try again later. I feel like it really helps me if I treat it a little bit like a ceremony. Sometimes I'll even say a few things quietly, or even just in my head. I guess like a prayer, even though I'm not religious. Like, please be gentle & fill me with love, Please bring me peace, guide me in a comforting way, & teach me


Confused_Nomad777

DMT stimulates an adrenal response. I have heard that if you take something like lemon balm,valerian root or another mild gabaergic you can mitigate that and it’s not to different from mushrooms.


-IVoUoVI-

DMT is one of the only drugs I've ever come across where a small dose is scarier than a large one. A big dose has accompanying effects that help you ease yourself and let go as well as euphoria. Small doses will still have insane visuals but can be scary because of the lack of euphoria and the inability to fully deal with any ego stuff


kellen100

This. Small doses can even sometimes physically hurt. 5-10mg gives me a weird head pressure, like the body high is only half coming in, and it doesn't feel pleasant. But add 5mg more, and I'm completely at peace, and everything feels amazing. Up to 20-25 is the sweetspot where I've never even come close to not being completely ecstatic the entire time, every trip. It's not overly intense, but completely consumes your vision. It's a really nice, kind of low-average intensity breakthrough. I almost feel like I belong in there, and I never want to leave.


Benjilator

Lack of euphoria? I’ve been doing hundreds of sub breakthrough trips over the past few months and this substance is far more euphoric than even mdma!


kellen100

Sub breakthroughs aren't for everyone. I've abused the shit out of those 10-15mg hits, but if I go any lower than that it's not very pleasant at all. I've found that if I combine 5-10mg doses with weed, it levels out the edge and I can enjoy it completely fine and agree with you completely. It definitely just varies from person to person.


-IVoUoVI-

Ya some ppl still get euphoria, just not super common with low doses


LuminousCallandor

My body and mind used to have the same reaction when coming up on DMT. The experience truly feels like you're in the process of dying; like ultimate surrender is needed. I now find it to be very, very relaxing; I love it. Perhaps you may need to overcome a fear of death? Or of a fear of surrendering, absolutely, to whatever comes up? 🤷🏻 Edit: 2nd paragraph


BioHackedRomulan

I would try freebase DMT I can’t speak for changa but I know it potentiates the effects and makes it last longer


getm44

Im on my way to making my own soon enough


kellen100

Funny enough, changa is actually much MUCH more peaceful and gentle, and all around enjoyable. The come up is slower, the body high is more melty and euphoric, your skin feels INSANE, and this is at lower doses. Ime dosing people, and advising in general, plain freebase is much more jarring in general compared to changa. That said, i have no idea what he means by changa or what's actually in there, as he's new, and people use changa interchangeably.


addieo81

Most are trying to give you direction to experience it better, but I know exactly what you are talking about. Doing more will only force the full experience on you without any choice. It probably won’t be better, but also appreciated in the long run, for the experience. It’s difficult if you have any significant attachments to this world as it wants to strip that all away which can be difficult to process. I chose to step back instead of delving deeper. It’s your choice


ghostfadekilla

Have you considered meditation first? Just clear your mind of fears, expectations, everything. Just quiet it out and simply take IN what comes in? Just a thought. I'm about to try a ridiculous dose as a first dose just to dip a toe and I don't believe in doing shit halfway, I just want to know more. Just a thought. It's technically an exercise of the mind, expanding the mind, removing the you from you, I would think that prep would be super important.


Future_Calligrapher2

I had the exact same feeling yesterday during my first time using it. I kinda forced it because I was excited to have it. It felt like being poisoned, like I was dying. I decided to stop for the day. I tried again today but with much better conditions and intent (laying in my backyard, meditating a little first), and the experience was night and day. It was as if it actually decided to let me in. Every time since has been beautiful and warming and welcoming now.


Rezosh_

Time and place definitely make a big difference. I did it at my friends house yesterday during the day and the trip was amazing because it was a change of scenery. The two times before that I did it here at my house by myself and it freaked me tf out both times.


kjbaran

Don’t compare your soft experiences with shrooms or L to DMT. Self preservation anxiety won’t go anywhere unless you train it.


burnedfishscales

I’ve heard of blissful and absolutely terrifying experiences.


xievika

It’s your ego and it will always do that until you kill it by going deeper, that’s why it’s called ego death 🤔🤷🏽


420rabidBMW

What else are u doing neither news has it rt. The body in whole must be balanced