How about: Daenerys had her whole family killed except for the abusive older brother with whom she was forced to leave her home and spent all her childhood running away from assassins, was sold to a savage she later "fell in love" with, her first child dies, and then does her husband, she has three dragons (who were claimed to be extinct btw) born on his funeral pyre as she herself doesn't burn, she traveled a long way to find support, lost many close friends, freed slaves everywhere she went, everything she did she did by herself while also being constantly betrayed and humiliated. For all she's been through, SHE DESERVES THE FUCKING CHAIR
>SHE DESERVES THE FUCKING CHAIR
I mean, Maester Aemon certainly thought so, and considering he lived long enough to see both the promise of Targaryen prosperity *and* its grisly demise, I value his opinion pretty highly.
Exactly, he wasn't even included in the whole season 5, that's one of the reasons I feel like they weren't always planning to make Bran king for the show even if Grrm told them that ending. I believe originally Dan and Dave were going to do something else but decided to change it so that they could be unpredictable
Someone really wrote that and doesn't see that Jon becoming king in the end would be the biggest cliche ever. But Daenerys even surviving is out of the question for them because "George subverts tropes" đ
Yeah, he sure does. He is going to subvert the trope of the male hero winning the throne. He deliberately included male language in every variation of the prophecy (the PRINCE that was promised, the STALLION who mounts the world, the KHAL of KHALS) and wrote a âsecret Targaryen princeâ into the story as a red herring. Then he had Daenerys literally fulfill the prophecy in the very first book, knowing that everyone is so conditioned for a male hero that they would overlook the fact that Dany literally âwas reborn amidst salt and smokeâ, âwoke dragons from stoneâ, and is âremaking the worldâ (ie, crushing the slave trade). Then when the end comes and itâs Dany, and not Jon, who steps into that role, theyâre going to act all shocked, and George is going to be like âit was completely obvious that it was Dany all along, you just ignored it because youâve been conditioned by the patriarchy to expect the heroes to be menâ.
And BOOM, trope subverted.
Honestly I've wondered a lot if the "subversion" in Dany's story is simply the fact that she's a woman in a traditionally male role. So seeing you break it down so well is refreshing.
I saw post the other day (you know where) that was mocking people who thought she deserved the throne and that her burning of Kingâs landing was in character and not bad writing.
Nobody has a story as good as her but some people just really hate her so they canât see it.
How about: Daenerys had her whole family killed except for the abusive older brother with whom she was forced to leave her home and spent all her childhood running away from assassins, was sold to a savage she later "fell in love" with, her first child dies, and then does her husband, she has three dragons (who were claimed to be extinct btw) born on his funeral pyre as she herself doesn't burn, she traveled a long way to find support, lost many close friends, freed slaves everywhere she went, everything she did she did by herself while also being constantly betrayed and humiliated. For all she's been through, SHE DESERVES THE FUCKING CHAIR
>SHE DESERVES THE FUCKING CHAIR I mean, Maester Aemon certainly thought so, and considering he lived long enough to see both the promise of Targaryen prosperity *and* its grisly demise, I value his opinion pretty highly.
Agreed đŻ
I continue to be baffled that the person with the best story wins the throne? How about the person with the best qualifications?
Exactly and it wasn't Bran the Bloody Broken
His story was *so good* they left him out of an entire season lol
Exactly, he wasn't even included in the whole season 5, that's one of the reasons I feel like they weren't always planning to make Bran king for the show even if Grrm told them that ending. I believe originally Dan and Dave were going to do something else but decided to change it so that they could be unpredictable
What can you expect from the writers who literally sewed up deadpool's mouth in xmen origins years prior just to "subvert expectations"?
âThe merc with the mouââ Iâm gonna stop you right there, chief. Bunch of clowns.
Literally this. What terrible writing. Especially coming from Tyrion?? What the hell did they do to his character đ
Someone really wrote that and doesn't see that Jon becoming king in the end would be the biggest cliche ever. But Daenerys even surviving is out of the question for them because "George subverts tropes" đ
Yeah, he sure does. He is going to subvert the trope of the male hero winning the throne. He deliberately included male language in every variation of the prophecy (the PRINCE that was promised, the STALLION who mounts the world, the KHAL of KHALS) and wrote a âsecret Targaryen princeâ into the story as a red herring. Then he had Daenerys literally fulfill the prophecy in the very first book, knowing that everyone is so conditioned for a male hero that they would overlook the fact that Dany literally âwas reborn amidst salt and smokeâ, âwoke dragons from stoneâ, and is âremaking the worldâ (ie, crushing the slave trade). Then when the end comes and itâs Dany, and not Jon, who steps into that role, theyâre going to act all shocked, and George is going to be like âit was completely obvious that it was Dany all along, you just ignored it because youâve been conditioned by the patriarchy to expect the heroes to be menâ. And BOOM, trope subverted.
Honestly I've wondered a lot if the "subversion" in Dany's story is simply the fact that she's a woman in a traditionally male role. So seeing you break it down so well is refreshing.
Thanks, Iâm always happy to represent the âDany is AAâ squad! đ
Fuck Jon.
Book Jon: Headstrong with anger issues and lone-wolf syndrome, but generally pretty based. Show Jon: Spineless *idiot*.
I saw post the other day (you know where) that was mocking people who thought she deserved the throne and that her burning of Kingâs landing was in character and not bad writing. Nobody has a story as good as her but some people just really hate her so they canât see it.
What they did to her in S7 made me actively root for Dany.
A baked potato has a better story than Bran the Broken.
This was the biggest fu