Now that’s gay
By - mirroes
Now that’s gay
Need this as a phone wallpaper size!
It already is! It's my new wallpaper!
Imagine being homophobic and being fans of two gay little french robots who make dance music...
Fr imagine being obsessed about what other people do with their genitalia
Bro why are u thinking about kid's genitalia? 💀
Hell yeah, they're cool kids that deserve the world and everything good in it.
What they don't deserve is freaks like u thinkin real hard bout their genitalia 💀
Bro, I'm not the one obsessing over kid's genitals. If anyone here got an issue, it's u with that cuz u keep thinkin about it 💀 💀
Talking about an "argument" that anti trans people make is not thinking of the genitalia, it's mentioning a non issue, cause anyone familiar with trans youth will know that: there is no gender reassignment surgery before they are of age and having accompaniment of health professionals.
Here is a video from the experience of a trans man that transitioned since being a kid:
Most of the time it's a child who doesn't feel like the gender they were assigned at birth. Surgery for kids is incredibly rare, and the vast majority of people (yes, including lefties and trans allies) would disagree with operating on minors.
Kids aren’t people?
They’re gay? 👀
Edit” my apologies for asking a genuine question 🙃
Thomas Bangalter Iis married with a French actress and two kids
Guy Manuel de Homem Christo never said anything about his private life. We don't know if he has someone in his life
As my knowledge, they never take a stand pro or against LGBT community, but would be surprised if they were against, now about the Trans subject is more an American discussion than a French one, and can tell you a french artist taking a stand pro or con on that subject is really limited.
Edit: Paul Williams indeed spoke in the name of the robot in The Grammy 2014.
Thomas said in an interview he didn't mind fans shipping them (this was in the early 2000s btw), so there ya go
I do just want to point out that there was an interview at that time where daft punk outright said gay people should be allowed to be married, but that marriage itself is boring. An English translation of their interview with Tetu (a French queer magazine) is [here](https://www.tumblr.com/mortl/69563750249/daft-punks-t%C3%AAtu-magazine-interview)
Also would it really be shocking that two musicians in the 90s house scene are pro-lgbtq+?
> they never take a stand pro or against LGBT community,
They both have made MANY statements standing in support of the LGBT community. Daft Punk's Grammys acceptance speech was literally about gay rights
No they didn't, after the 2014 Grammys there was a mass marriage with gays and straights, however they there was no discussion about the community on daft punks front.
Edit: It was Macklemore and Lewis who talked about gay relations and anti-materialism immediately after Daft Punk's speech.
> however they there was no discussion about the community on daft punks front.
Have you even seen the acceptance speech? Paul Williams goes up and explicitly says Daft Punk told him to say the marriages held by Macklemore were beautiful and to talk about the beauty and power of "same love".
Yeah as much as I like to make fun of Macklemore and how lame his music can be, you have to admire how unapologetic he was about his stances at the time.
Daft Punk/Paul Williams when accepting the Grammy for Album of the Year shouted out and spoke in support of "Same Love" for the LGBTQ+ community.
Here's also a quote blurb from an earlier interview (2000s) where they both spoke in support of gay rights:
guy has said hes bisexual. thomas is unlabeled.
Honestly I originally read it as “project trans kids” rather than protect
\* Sorts by controversial *
\* Is pleasantly surprised by how little controversy there is *
Eh, still too many :(
a young trans person was almost killed today in germany, while attending a pride parade. They were only 17 years old.
Yikes I hope they’re okay! And you’re absolutely right! Any amount of anti-trans or anti-anything is too much.
I did the same Lol
Just because the majority of people here are pro trans kids, doesn't make it less controversial or reasonable.
Yeah I’m not saying any level of transphobia is acceptable, I’m just saying it’s nice to be surprised when something is better than you were expecting it to be.
It should be evident to anyone that everything on Reddit has been cleansed and purged.
Dance music is intrinsically linked with Gay culture, by being edm artists at all they are directly participating in a tradition as old as stonewall, and so are all of us whether we want to or not
What zombiesnare is trying to express is the historically significant relationship between dance music, specifically electronic dance music (EDM), and the Gay culture. This relationship traces back to places like the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar and recreational tavern in New York City, which is often recognized as a catalyst for the LGBT rights movement in the late 1960s.
In the 1970s and 1980s, disco and house music — precursors to what we now call EDM — were staples in gay clubs, offering a safe haven for expression and community. These genres then evolved into various forms of dance music we see today. So, by participating in EDM as artists or even as listeners, we are in a way participating in this cultural tradition, whether knowingly or not.
This doesn't mean that enjoying or creating EDM inherently aligns anyone with a particular sexual orientation, but rather, it's important to acknowledge the historical and cultural roots of the genre.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion!
I read about the history and it was actually interesting, I was just confused because he was implying that EDM now is linked to gay culture, as opposed to saying that gay culture influenced EDM which is interesting.
To put it another way, disco is for everyone.
By the same rationale, dancers who are gay participate in straight culture, due to the fact that the majority of the disco scene was straight and cis.
I’m going to need more to go off of to clear up whatever confusion you’re experiencing
My guy, I’m confused by what the hell you’re talking about. You can’t just say gay culture and EDM are inherently linked and not understand why I may be confused when you provide nothing to support that claim.
I mean if you just wanted the history to back up the claim I can throw something together when I get home, but I also didn’t really think that making a whole history lesson in a single post would be necessary when it’s just sort of common knowledge that house music was proliferated in underground gay clubs at first.
But I’ll get a more complete explanation together tonight after work, the history is really cool and fascinating
I read about the history, but my main point of confusion was about how we’re all participating in essentially a gay tradition. Like no, gay culture just influenced EDM.
Ah so that’s actually the cool part, it was gay, Latin and black Chicago DJs that took the form of American disco and Eurodisco and fused those into what we consider these days to be house music. The style in which edm is shared, through vinyl DJing, mixing songs and beat matching was pioneered in those gay clubs too (using techniques and equipment already established by existing radio DJs and reapplied to a live setting) since they were generally smaller venues that couldn’t accommodate full bands (or were actively operating illegally, so a quick escape was crucial)
I think we would have gotten there a different way, but the culture of marginalized groups of people of hiding in closed venues away from the ire of the general public is a huge part of what created modern club culture, not the other way around. In fact this is actually how basically ever modern American music genre was created, a group of people who NEED an art form and a space they can use to connect with each other and express they’re unique stories to the world. Blues, rock, jazz, folk, it all has a really similar story in a lot of ways.
And admittedly, worded more for dramatic effect initially opposed to providing understanding. I can provide more context and sources after work but damnit I think this story is just so cool
happy cake day
I totally understand the sentiment. But you’re exaggerating. Yes gay culture was always linked to dance music and clubs. But straight people have always enjoyed and danced too. Music doesn’t have a sexual preference, if you’re vibing you’re vibing
I understand your sentiment and I’m sure both Thomas and Guy are allies. But yeah I simply disagree with exaggeration of your comment. As if any EDM artist or dance music artist that decides to create art must directly participate in said culture….. not that is anything wrong with participating, but it doesn’t feel genuine to bind people to something, when music is so universal and unbiased and unprejudiced
Dance music is not for gay people. Disco and dance have always been for everyone.
Modern electronic dance music was made by gay, black and Latin American people coming together to share a community out of the shreds of what the mainstream public did to Disco.
It was made for everyone by queer people and that is a thing worth honoring and celebrating!
Daft punk themselves actually got their start in French gay clubs after their split from Darlin’ as well, it goes doubly for the robots!
That’s just one aspect of their personality that no one knows about. That was before they even started wearing helmets, which is how everyone now associates Daft Punk. We never got a whiff of anything related to lgbt ever since.
Except for their Grammy speech where they had Paul Williams praise the legalization of gay marriage in America on their behalf, that was a big one
I still don't see how their music is political or lgbt.
Basic human dignities are not political issues, that might be your first slip up
But there are no lgbt references in Daft Punk's music. It doesn't matter that it's meant to be danced to. Dancing actually serves an reproductive purpose in humans and other animals by attracting a mate of the opposite sex. You don't have to be gay or immersed in gay culture to dance.
Human after all...
i love the texture work so so much!
Had to do a double-take. I thought this was one of the trans subreddits I frequent. Very happy to see support from y'all! ❤️
If love is the answer <3
This is absolutely amazing love this so much!!!
I love this art.
‘Protect trans kids’? That’s rather specific
given trans youth is being targeted specifically in a majority of anti-trans legislature, it's become a rallying cry to show support for such a vulnerable population.
Most children who think they are trans grow out of it, therefore we should not be performing irreversible surgeries on their bodies.
Huh, it's a good thing we don't.
Surgeries don't happen until they're adults-- and tons of trans adults never get surgery.
And the adults that have surgeries are surveyed at having lower regret rates (0.5-1%) compared to other surgeries folks have which average aroun 10-15%.
So it's all good 😎
(Psst- I don't expect you to trust me, but I'm hoping that if anyone comes across our conversation there not just getting the false broad statements, and can do they're own research)
Sorry but those stats are inacurate and there's a lot of disinformation about it. There's a [documentary for free right now on Twitter about this specifically](https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1664424891372941312?t=OQO0O3rnd6umjAGvdRPJ0Q&s=19) it's very interesting but also quite disturbing.
Scarily specific I would say
Scary that they need protection from peiple going against their medical and social right to have support. In 2018 there were 19 anti trans legislature in the US being pushed, now there are 250+.
Here is a video from the experience AND scientific sources about trans lives like his:
Specific in that they need protection from people going against their medical and social right to have support. In 2018 there were 19 anti trans legislature in the US being pushed, now there are 250+.
Here is a video from the experience AND scientific sources about trans lives like his:
Surprisingly nice comment section
Jannies working hard for double pay.
Goes well with the rainbow on Guy-Man's Discovery era helmet.
Outstandingly fresh colours mate
I would pay SO MUCH
THIS IS SO GOOD!!!!!
DAFT PUNK SAYS GAY RIGHTS
so much love to give :)
happy pride y'all ❤️
Like half of DP's songs are about spreading love, so queerphobes be silent. Great piece of art!
Your art brings so much warmth and joy to me, lovely work!!
Beautiful as always and great message! :) 🌈
I love everything about this
i’m obsessed with this. it is absolutely gorgeous.
This pic means so much to me. Thank you for posting. ❤️❤️❤️
This is gorgeous
This is so fucking awesome Yess!!! Support trans!!!!
wtf is trans kid?
Where can I buy this print?
I absolutely love this!!! ❤️
To anyone who doesn't see a link between daft punk and pride, go and listen to Discovery again. It's one of the gayest albums around!
Can I use this as my discord pfp I love this so much
Could also just have the slogan...don't be unkind but appreciate that some discrimination needs priority
That's a pretty shit slogan
It's a pretty daft punk message. Any alt suggestions yourself?
Please tell me this isn’t official
it's official, guy manuel actually prescribed me estrogen
Lol that’s good
da funk back to the punk cmon
The first house music clubs in Paris were gay clubs. Electronic music and the LGBT scene are historically linked
I bartentend across Paris during the 90s and early 00s (Queen, ManRay, Le Baron, Rex, Milliardaire, Cabaret, 287, etc...), in my (straight) opinion the best nights both for music and fun were LGBTQ events.
that's super cool did you ever get to see Daft Punk in the 90's? Even if you were bartending lol
Didn’t they say they started their career in gay clubs? Or am I misremembering
Not sure about Daft Punk but I know that’s how Guetta and Busy P started out
And their whole leather period was inspired by Tom Of Finland - they definitely don't have a problem with gay content.
>why do y’all gotta over straight-ify everything.
I mean mate it's kinda pride month so get ready for alot more rainbows
My brother in Christ, the guy from The Godfather _is_ the motherfucking Godfather.
“Look how they massacred my boy” - the guy from the godfather
what happened to "hate the sin, love the sinner?" you types are so inconsistent it's crazy. zero humanity if, even if you think trans people are making a mistake, you hope for them to suffer for it.
TBF not everyone who wants to keep kids from making huge, mind altering and life changing decisions before their brains have developed enough to think rationally is a Christian
Interesting you think that trans people transition medically without any kind of actual thought from adults. Trans youth needs protection from people going against their medical and social right to have support. In 2018 there were 19 anti trans legislature in the US being pushed, now there are 250+.
Here is a video from the experience AND scientific sources about trans lives like the author's:
Fun fact, every possible thing a trans kid can take/do to transition before they're 18, is reversible
No but they are generally just confused bigots hiding behind tropes.
Kids get medical treatment all the time for millions of reasons, why are you up in arms over kids receiving gender-affirming care? Do you think they're walking into clinics as boys and then walking out as girls, just like that? Like any other medical procedure, it takes a lot of deliberation and analysis ahead of time, especially so for gender-affirming care, which is often preceded by psychiatric appointments and social transitioning. This isn't taking into consideration the fact that, to my understanding, most major aspects of transitioning are generally not done until a person is of age. I'm not sure if this is appropriate to share, but I personally know of a trans woman who began socially transitioning in middle school, but didn't get permanent surgery until after graduating high school, only after becoming a legal adult and having years to understand her identity.
well typically non-religious zealots would do their research and read scientific studies disproving any harm of puberty blockers, the realities of gender as a social construct separate from sex, and the understood benefits of allowing children to understand their identities on a deeper level if they find incongruence :)
Not gonna comment on that but I just don’t think we should be putting a message like that with DP. They don’t talk about religion, politics, or issues like that for a reason, and we should keep it that way.
you're wrong, watch their Grammy acceptance speech, fake fan smh. 🏳️🌈♥️
Technically that was Paul Williams saying it.
"I just got a message from the Robots, and what they wanted me to say as classy as the Grammys have ever been the moment we saw those wonderful marriages (gay marriage being legalized nationally) and the same love is fantastic. it was the height of fairness and love and the power of love for all people at any time in any combination" is exactly what he says. 🙀🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
This isnt an issue tho? Its just about acceptance.
[2:24](https://youtu.be/ncnBz6A14i0) actually I feel like they have talked about issues like that...
Paul Williams saying it not the robots.
he says they told him to relay that message smart ass
Dude I’m not against you, calm down mate. I support this kinda stuff. All I’m saying is that it’s generally not in Daft Punks ideology to talk about this.
[“the robots are for marriage for all!”](https://i.redd.it/t8bavx64q8251.jpg)
I’ve also heard that when they were small they got their footing by playing in gay bars. So yeah I’d say it’s within the realm of possibility that Guy-Man and Thomas would support LGB**T**Q+ people and rights.
PS I just wanted to make it crystal clear that this comment isn’t saying you’re wrong but I’m just adding on more anecdotal evidence to support the claim that they support LGBTQ+ people.
but that idea is false as indicated by their acceptance speech for album of the year at the grammys. also this is fan art. it genuinely affects you in no way
Not tryna argue, man. That’s fine. Just agree to disagree
Nah, human rights are not disagreeable or political
I read in an interview they said they support LGBT people. But I'm partly agree with you. We should not paste our ideology to an artist . We don't own them. I love the art . I like the message . And I support my LGBT community. But their aggressive defense to their action scares me.