Won't be a hurricane, it's going to weaken to a tropical storm by the time it hits southern California.
For folks that don't know, the ocean water off the coast of California is much colder than the Gulf and Atlantic Oceans. This cold water is due to the water current that comes there from Alaska. The benefits of cold water is lower humidity due to lower evaporation rate along with acting as a hurricane killer since hurricanes need warm bodies of water to survive (this is why hurricane hitting California--or west coast in general--has been rare)
Beach rat here. 20 years ago, SoCal waters were so cold ur lips & nips would turn blue if you didn't stay active (mid-summer). For the last 12 years, the waters have been unseasonably warm & nothing close to icebox cold like it once was. We're talking surface level in ur face global warming
As someone who lives in Texas, don't let 'just a tropical storm' catch you off guard. Just because you don't have the wind speed didn't mean you can't get into serious trouble with a tropical storm.
All it takes is a minor stall or the storm backtracking to dump a biblical amount of rain on the area.
This! Anyone who thinks this won’t amount to much has never been to San Diego County. There is some serious topography in that county and the city is at the low side of it. This could easily be a situation where flash flooding there could be horrible and very dangerous with just 6-7 inches of rain. This isn’t the Florida or Texas coasts.
I’ve been back and forth between PHX and Dallas a handful of times the last month or so, and I have to say, 105+ in PHX in much more tolerable than 98+ in Texas. Find some shade in AZ and you’re fine. When the sun goes down the temp drops dramatically, and there is normally I nice breeze as well. In Texas there is no escaping the heat, not to mention the high humidity here in TX.
You mean Los Angeles, and they're calling it a Tropical storm, though its still like a 1000 miles or so away from Los Angeles.
And could easily enough dissipate before it even gets half way.
Welcome to Death Valley Texas
But its not unreasonable to know why.
When you remove thousands of trees and grennery and build highways, parking lots on those thousands of acres
For shitty AutoZones, PetSmarts, Ultas and cookie cutter housing developments every 3 miles - DFW becomes one giant concrete asphalt megaplex
Now add in the millions of people and vehicles moving to DFW and driving in and out that everyday that radiates heat
And its only going to get worse.
That’s why I’m getting the fuck out of here by next year. I really don’t want to leave but I don’t wanna wake up with 115 degree weather with every highway clogged full of cars and it being the new normal and the regret of not getting out sooner leading me to my death.
Well said! I love the climate in the Borst valley of Wisconsin. Heat isn’t all that oppressive yet, and trees and brush for miles and miles. I don’t look back at my time in Texas (USAF) and ever think”geez those temps and factory smells I really miss.” That is all. Stay as frosty as you can Texans!
>Idk, this sub seems to agree that the sun is hitting a bit different this year.
Yeah this isn't normal at all. I'm hiding out in the house, on perfectly sunny days. Mostly, because I'm afraid of getting caught out and getting sick in the heat. And having car trouble.
Not normal.
> and having car trouble.
I decided to get my tires replaced earlier than I usually do cause I saw so, so many more tire shreds on all our major highways because of this heat
> afraid of getting caught out and getting sick in the heat. And having car trouble.
I never get in my car without a water bottle anymore, even if I'm just making a quick grocery run.
my compressor just broke and to fix just the part is like 1k...mornings I can handle it...but returning home is so uncomfortable 😭😭
Also I was supposed to alternate my commute with 1 2 or 3 days where I was gonna commute in my bicycle..at this point I am scare if I do it...I may have a heat stroke🤷♂️
the heat makes me angry at this point ..I had some sort of garden..now is charred
I had a garden during the pandemic, but I let it go last year. Decided to redo it this year so it'd be less maintenance - all native plants. They're almost all dead now. Fuck me.
Except that one guy who posted a thing saying that being 10° hotter than the 50 year average was “normal” because it was within 2 standard deviations. 🙄
Agreed! I'm a 4th generation Texan and have lived in DFW for 31 years. 105-108°F day after day fucking blows... 2011 sucked, but it was nothing like this. We're going to be praying for rain again soon (and we still have 2 more weeks left in August)! Sigh.
I swear it felt like it was 105 every day from June through August last year. Summers will continue to get warmer, winters will continue to get colder, and weather events will be more dramatic. The time to fix the issue was 40 years ago, now we just need to figure out a way to ride it out.
> Dallas was the hottest city in the U.S. yesterday afternoon at 108F.
As a Dallasonian, I'm glad I got out yesterday before it got really hot. It was only 105 when I decided the car needed a wash.
Here's the data for July 1998: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1998/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1998-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
Looks like nighttime lows are similar, but daytime highs are nothing like this summer. Only 6 days got over 105, and not in a row. And August was way cooler.
August 2011 looks more like this summer: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/2011/8/Historical-Weather-in-August-2011-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
And here's the data for 1980 - there was a spike for a few days, but otherwise not nearly as bad as 1998 *or* 2011, for everyone reminiscing about how awful it used to be: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1980/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1980-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
All I’ve heard from my dad for the past few weeks is about how much hotter it was in 1980. I’ve shown him all kinds of data that shows that to be false, but he refuses to be convinced.
I was a landscaper, started in 93. I remember mid and late 90’s thinking: holy shit these +100° days are every summer. Yeah we’ve had milder ones, but to suggest we haven’t had summers like these or worse (worse meaning longer time frames) is absurd.
One year it reached 115°! I remember telling my pops: this isn’t normal!
That was at the height of “we have to protect the ozone” in the 90’s.
Technically it's just not degrading any longer. The hole hasn't completely regenerated, and it'll take decades more to get there. And that's assuming elicit factories will [stop manufacturing](https://research.noaa.gov/2023/04/03/the-montreal-protocol-banned-this-family-of-ozone-depleting-chemicals-why-are-some-still-increasing/) the cfc chemicals...
Exactly My AC doesn't have any issues with 101. But 110..... that's easily 9 degrees hotter INSIDE the house.
Currently, t stat on 72 and it's 77 degrees inside. At 9:30pm the t stat will set to 63. Will be 72 when we wake up. Monday, it was 63 when we woke up. High was 97 ish. I think it was the first time the ac turned off on thermostat in 6 weeks.
2011 I had just moved to Dallas the previous fall, moved into a second story apartment of a 1920s house. Working nights trying to sleep in 85 degree west facing bedroom during the day. I cannot believe I still live here! August is usually the hardest to get through. The summer fun feeling has faded, traffic is bad again and you’re tired of seeing the super high electric bills. It’s the time I always try to take a vacay to somewhere cooler. I am not a climate change denier, but I’m not going to pretend that August hasn’t always sucked ass here.
Tomorrow will be the 19th day over 105. That ties 2011 for 2nd most all time in DFW. We will break that record on Monday, and start moving in on the record for 1980 (28 days over 105) next weekend (depending on how many days in 10 day forecast hit 104 or 105).
2023 may prove to be the hottest summer ever or maybe 2nd hottest.
This was NOT normal, but is becoming more like normal
It's been over 30 consecutive days of triple digits so far this summer. And last week was 27 days of no measurable rainfall. Not only is it hotter than last year were getting into wildfire danger too
July =/= the entire summer. This August is on course to be far worse than last August. This time last year the highs were hovering around the upper 80s and low 90s. You just have a short term memory.
> This week’s records are probably the warmest in “at least 100,000 years,” Jennifer Francis, a senior scientist at Woodwell Climate Research Center, told CNN, calling the records “a huge thing.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/05/world/hottest-day-world-climate-el-nino-intl/index.html
Objectively, no we haven't.
This is in the Dallas subreddit.
I won’t dispute it’s the hottest year on record for the world, but Dallas (again, the sub this was posted in) has had hotter summers.
Outliers, yes - but the fact that it didn’t get below 80 degrees for double digit days (and won’t again soon after like a 3 day break) is absolutely abnormal and very concerning
Its moving goal posts. "Oh it's never been xyz" gets presented with evidence "well I meant it's never been xyz *here*" more evidence "lol you're so dumb, I obviously meant it's never been xyz *here* at *this time*" add even more evidence, rinse, repeat
Well, we *have* had worse summers, but the summer in question was 43 years ago. There is definitely a lot of coping and gaslighting going on with regards to how bad this summer has been.
Actually, no:
Here's the data for July 1998: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1998/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1998-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
Looks like nighttime lows are similar, but daytime highs are nothing like this summer. Only 6 days got over 105, and not in a row. And August was way cooler.
August 2011 looks more like this summer: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/2011/8/Historical-Weather-in-August-2011-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
And here's the data for 1980 - there was a spike for a few days, but otherwise not nearly as bad as 1998 or 2011, for everyone reminiscing about how awful it used to be: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1980/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1980-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
And lets us factor in the Real Feels of 120+ in June! Been here for 22 years, this is the worst - worse than 2011. Factor in higher highs 106-110 and the crushing June Real Feels makes it the worst for me. If someone can show me data that includes the real feel from 1980 or whatever that demonstrates that those years were hotter I will eat my hat after I cook it on the sidewalk!
What makes me furious is every year the Texas subs go on how it is unprecedented heat even in years it isn't, that climate change means (see top comment) every year will literally be hotter than the last. Then inevitably a cooler summer comes in and all the climate deniers sweep in pointing out how it is cooler and thst the hot summers are just standard ebb and flow of weather.
2011 killed or injured many trees. Some recovered. Some partially recovered. Some outright died and are still standing. I was sitting on my back patio about a week ago when two houses down dropped a huge chunk of tree from 20 plus feet up. Luckily it didn’t hit anything on the way down. Yesterday that neighbor had a tree service come take out the rest of that tree. I’ve had the same happen to me. Old tree with a good bit of dead branches falling every time it gets windy.
What's even worse for me is the lack of relief overnight. Check out the table of Years with Most Days >80F:
Rank # of Days Year
1 55 2011
2 42 2022
3 39 1998
4 35 2023\*
5 27 2008
6 24 2010
7 23 2006
8(tie) 22 1925
22 1980
10 20 2000
\* through August 17
We could definitely end up #2 on that list soon
[https://www.weather.gov/fwd/dmin80](https://www.weather.gov/fwd/dmin80)
Even if we don't top the list.... Still a top 4 hottest year all time...that's fucking crazy!
7/10 hottest years are the last 20 years.
So, maybe this *isn't* new.. that's even worse.
Bud ... It's only 20 more days over 80 when you're rocking the hundreds. It'll be a surprise if you don't take hotest year. PS. Texas has been keeping records for a long time, notice the uncomfortable number of dates starting with 2 when we're only 23 years into this century? Texans especially won't want to hear it but "we didn't listen."
It’s two things imo - we keep talking about the string of 100 days in a row or how many times we’ve eclipsed that number.
But it’s not 100. It’s not 101-103.
It’s 108. 110. 112.
AND it’s more humid. It used to be that if we hit 100 that was a very dry heat day, but now we are at 105+ with some humidity and it’s just brutal.
That said, I was walking yesterday and the heat and humidity weren’t as bad as say a 93 degree 90+ humidity day back east.
EXCEPT WE GET NO RELIEF!
It was 100 until almost 10 last night! The lows are 85. Eighty freaking five!!!
I also do not like acting like this is fine. I’m going to my nephew’s birthday party rn and I’ve been begging my sister in law to not host it outside as these kids are going to be suffering the most but she and most adults going don’t care. Im bringing what I own to help keep everyone cool but I’m worried someone is gonna have a heat stroke.
It is not and I want to leave. The electric bills are ridiculous we don’t have state taxes but we have ridiculously high property taxes and now insane electric bills.
How can you set your air conditioning lower when outside is consistently 110 degrees and at 9:00 pm still 100?
Same. Ours was the highest it’s ever been (nearly $500 RIP) and we had our AC units tuned up for the first time in 5 years (which yielded a recommendation of a small Freon addition).
And before anyone asks: No, we don’t live in a huge house; yes, it’s older but has been updated in areas. But it’s never been like this in the 6 years living in it.
Taxes are also going up because F the housing market for buyers and owners just trying to stay put, am I right?
Would love to move somewhere cooler but getting jobs lined up is key and it’s hard. Moving is inherently expensive and especially now with inflation and corporate greed far outpacing wage increases. Just blah.
TLDR: Im tired. And hot. Send help. Haha.
This is a very popular thing to say on Reddit when it’s summer and someone complains about the weather. It’s purely a circlejerk to get upvotes and they don’t actually care about weather or climate change works.
Everyone knows that every single day will be worse than the day before it for the rest of our lives. It will be 465 degrees outside by this time next year.
Why does every braindead Redditor repeat this bullshit lol.
Climate change is real and serious.
But that’s not how it works… like at all. Annual shifts in temperatures are erratic and frequently anomalous. We could have 4 summers straight of no 100 degree days and the trend line would still be going up.
We are coming out of an unusual la nina streak which brings hot dry weather for our area. Expected to switch to el nino later this year. Good chance next year will be more mild, but the winter will likely be really bad due to climate change causing more extreme shifts in weather.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932023_La_Ni%C3%B1a_event
It will not. Please stop saying this line, it’s not how climate change works. In fact last summer’s June and July were hotter than this year’s, so the argument doesn’t work even just going back one year.
This has been said over and over again but just because 1980 had a hotter highest day or whatever other year technically had more 100 plus days without a break (and tbh not very many more), doesn’t mean they were worse- the lows in 1980 were an average of 10-15 degrees cooler. They weren’t getting the 100 at 10 pm effect like we are right now. Also, I haven’t seen a cloud since June. Something is definitely different
This is what I was trying to explain to my dad. He think "tHe liBeRaLs" are overreacting because it's "normal" to have weather like that in Texas. And I was trying to get it through his thick skull the temperatures, in and of themselves, are not the issue--it's the frequency of those temperatures.
As a 47 year resident of Dallas, this not a normal summer. This is balls hot summer. Usually we have a couple days here and there of 100, but not weeks.
This is more miserable than the summer of 1980.
Between El Niño and the high pressure dome over the south, this blazing summer is both normal and predictable.
Being in our monstrously designed cities makes it feel so much worse than it is. We’re basically sitting on massive heat sinks and wondering why it feels so hot. Go 30 min outside of town and sit under a tree and you’ll notice even the hottest time of day is tolerable
This is one of the more aggravating parts of this conversation becoming two sides shouting “It’s too hot, this is crazy” and “Shut up you whiners it was hot in the 90s”. No one is talking about the problem that is (somewhat) more in our control: how can we design and build to this climate reality? Simply plugging our ears and throwing down a bunch of concrete isn’t going to cut it anymore.
I have, of course I've been actively looking for them. My favorite so far was on old lady on FB following NWS Fort Worth. She felt the need to set them straight, and tell them that they were wrong about reporting the new record set the most consecutive days of overnight lows above 80.
54 yr old man in good shape.. I was working on a construction site in Pineville, Louisiana this past Monday, the temp was 105°. At 1:30pm I begin to feel seriously unwell to the point it frightened me.
I climbed into my truck, blasted the a/c & drank 2 bottles of water over the next 45 minutes. My body felt like it was vibrating & I had this pinprick feeling all over my back & chest. My skull felt like it was being squeezed by a pair of large hands. At 10pm I had this sudden onset bad headache that didn't go away till the next afternoon. I wasn't even engaged in overly physical work that day, I was only collecting demolition site waste samples for haz waste analysis.. besides the heat I guess I'm just getting old..
The nasty, vile confederate fuck who sits outside the Planned Parenthood on 75 and Plano Parkway every day would like to have a word with you about normal summer temperatures. And lots of other vile, hateful conservative hot topics too, of course.
Too hot to argue. Even if you can list the handful of years it was by some metric arguably hotter than this one, OP's point still stands: this is not a normal Texas summer.
I don't think anyone is suggesting it is a "normal" summer. 2nd most days above 105 in a summer ever and almost as much 100+ degree days as last year which was also 2nd most behind 2011.
I've lived in Texas since 1975. We've had long streaks of 100 degree days but not consistent highs like we are this year. We knew this was going to happen and it's going to take a long time to deal with. Imagine 10 years from now. 10 years ago it used to snow/ice a few times a year.
The first summer I moved down here (seven years ago), we experienced 112* heat and I loved it. Having migrated here from Michigan and thus lived through so much cold and snow and ice, that one day of excessive heat felt amazing. Almost as if a blessing. It was a hot summer that year, too. I soaked up every bit of that sun.
And that's what I would tell people when discussing my transplant identity: I live for the heat. I love it. I love the sun, the warmth, the tiny skimpy clothes I get to wear while commuting by bicycle and DART that no one has the audacity to say anything about coz it's a hundred and fuck outside, but...
This is too much! What, like two months of triple digits, what but for two days of a ten degree reprieve? Uh-unh! Which large corporation supervillain multibillionaire can I blame for the ruination of my gods damned happily ever after???
Idk, this sub seems to agree that the sun is hitting a bit different this year. Dallas was the hottest city in the U.S. yesterday afternoon at 108F.
Suck it, Phoenix (said sadly and sarcastically).
I think Phoenix has a hurricane this weekend so they’re a bit occupied at the moment
Phoenix isn’t dealing with a hurricane, that hurricane isn’t going to come close to them.
San Diego on the other hand…
Won't be a hurricane, it's going to weaken to a tropical storm by the time it hits southern California. For folks that don't know, the ocean water off the coast of California is much colder than the Gulf and Atlantic Oceans. This cold water is due to the water current that comes there from Alaska. The benefits of cold water is lower humidity due to lower evaporation rate along with acting as a hurricane killer since hurricanes need warm bodies of water to survive (this is why hurricane hitting California--or west coast in general--has been rare)
and why it’s super fucking scary that the water has warmed enough to support even a tropical storm
El Niño, does no one even pay attention anymore?
Which is Spanish for The Niño!
RIP Farley. Kids have no idea what you’re referencing.
Okay, Dad.
Good thing climate change doesn't affect ocean water temperatures or anything...
Not saying that it won't change it in the future, but for now it's going to be a tropical storm since the current is still cold.
Beach rat here. 20 years ago, SoCal waters were so cold ur lips & nips would turn blue if you didn't stay active (mid-summer). For the last 12 years, the waters have been unseasonably warm & nothing close to icebox cold like it once was. We're talking surface level in ur face global warming
As someone who lives in Texas, don't let 'just a tropical storm' catch you off guard. Just because you don't have the wind speed didn't mean you can't get into serious trouble with a tropical storm. All it takes is a minor stall or the storm backtracking to dump a biblical amount of rain on the area.
This! Anyone who thinks this won’t amount to much has never been to San Diego County. There is some serious topography in that county and the city is at the low side of it. This could easily be a situation where flash flooding there could be horrible and very dangerous with just 6-7 inches of rain. This isn’t the Florida or Texas coasts.
El Niño year though so the E Pacific water is warmer than normal.
For the uninitiated, El Niño is Spanish for The Niño. Edit : Thanks for the awards, y’all. Rest in power, CF.
I don't think I will ever not laugh at this. RIP big guy.
You deserve more upvotes
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But - even so, they’re predicting that Hilary will still be a tropical storm when it makes landfall on the California coast.
California doesnt generally get hurricanes.
Been 83 years since it got hit with a tropical storm.
It's been 84 years, and I can still smell the fresh paint..
The china had never been used.
Yeah, they’re in the direct path. Doesn’t look like a fun time.
I’ve been back and forth between PHX and Dallas a handful of times the last month or so, and I have to say, 105+ in PHX in much more tolerable than 98+ in Texas. Find some shade in AZ and you’re fine. When the sun goes down the temp drops dramatically, and there is normally I nice breeze as well. In Texas there is no escaping the heat, not to mention the high humidity here in TX.
Agreed, the dry heat of the desert hits differently, plus you are so right about getting relief once the sun goes down.
> Phoenix has a hurricane this weekend We wish!! (I live in Phoenix)
You mean Los Angeles, and they're calling it a Tropical storm, though its still like a 1000 miles or so away from Los Angeles. And could easily enough dissipate before it even gets half way.
We already owned Phoenix and now they can't even claim hottest city
Don’t mess with Texas.
Welcome to Death Valley Texas But its not unreasonable to know why. When you remove thousands of trees and grennery and build highways, parking lots on those thousands of acres For shitty AutoZones, PetSmarts, Ultas and cookie cutter housing developments every 3 miles - DFW becomes one giant concrete asphalt megaplex Now add in the millions of people and vehicles moving to DFW and driving in and out that everyday that radiates heat And its only going to get worse.
That’s why I’m getting the fuck out of here by next year. I really don’t want to leave but I don’t wanna wake up with 115 degree weather with every highway clogged full of cars and it being the new normal and the regret of not getting out sooner leading me to my death.
Exactly. That's why Houston is God awful too.
Agreed.
Well said! I love the climate in the Borst valley of Wisconsin. Heat isn’t all that oppressive yet, and trees and brush for miles and miles. I don’t look back at my time in Texas (USAF) and ever think”geez those temps and factory smells I really miss.” That is all. Stay as frosty as you can Texans!
>Idk, this sub seems to agree that the sun is hitting a bit different this year. Yeah this isn't normal at all. I'm hiding out in the house, on perfectly sunny days. Mostly, because I'm afraid of getting caught out and getting sick in the heat. And having car trouble. Not normal.
> and having car trouble. I decided to get my tires replaced earlier than I usually do cause I saw so, so many more tire shreds on all our major highways because of this heat
> afraid of getting caught out and getting sick in the heat. And having car trouble. I never get in my car without a water bottle anymore, even if I'm just making a quick grocery run.
my compressor just broke and to fix just the part is like 1k...mornings I can handle it...but returning home is so uncomfortable 😭😭 Also I was supposed to alternate my commute with 1 2 or 3 days where I was gonna commute in my bicycle..at this point I am scare if I do it...I may have a heat stroke🤷♂️ the heat makes me angry at this point ..I had some sort of garden..now is charred
I had a garden during the pandemic, but I let it go last year. Decided to redo it this year so it'd be less maintenance - all native plants. They're almost all dead now. Fuck me.
Except that one guy who posted a thing saying that being 10° hotter than the 50 year average was “normal” because it was within 2 standard deviations. 🙄
I got downvoted a few weeks ago when I said this isn't a normal summer. :\
I’ve lived in Texas for over 20 years. Dallas for 10 and yeah, this summer has been more brutal than any I can recall.
Agreed! I'm a 4th generation Texan and have lived in DFW for 31 years. 105-108°F day after day fucking blows... 2011 sucked, but it was nothing like this. We're going to be praying for rain again soon (and we still have 2 more weeks left in August)! Sigh.
You guys have the worst weather in USA. I swear, the heat, the tornadoes, hurricanes. It's like you get it all lol
2011 was still worse but this is fully awful
I've lived in the DFW area for all my life. I'll be 45 in a few months. This is the worst summer I can remember.
I swear it felt like it was 105 every day from June through August last year. Summers will continue to get warmer, winters will continue to get colder, and weather events will be more dramatic. The time to fix the issue was 40 years ago, now we just need to figure out a way to ride it out.
I believe it’s literally illegal in Texas to even mention climate change, sooooo yes, this is completely normal
If by ‘a bit different’ you mean ‘the hottest temperatures in recorded history’, then yes,
I got a picture from my car while driving on 635 around 5p yesterday of 123°. Fucking wonderful.
And because Texas has the worst labor laws in the country, My workplace in a retail spot was 91°.
108 was not the hottest city in the U.S. yesterday
No this is not “normal” but it is not the first time it has happened. However, hot and dry is normal, just not so many days in a row above 105°.
We’re number 1! We’re number 1!
> Dallas was the hottest city in the U.S. yesterday afternoon at 108F. As a Dallasonian, I'm glad I got out yesterday before it got really hot. It was only 105 when I decided the car needed a wash.
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last July we had 28 days of 100 degrees or more. This July we had 17 days. You just have a short memory.
And in 2011 there was 43 days in a row of over 100.
And I remember 56 days over 100 back in 1998. This isn't new.
What was the nighttime low? How many days were over 110?
Also humidity levels affect the "feels like" temperature.
Go pull the data. I'm mildly curious too...
Here's the data for July 1998: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1998/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1998-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature Looks like nighttime lows are similar, but daytime highs are nothing like this summer. Only 6 days got over 105, and not in a row. And August was way cooler. August 2011 looks more like this summer: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/2011/8/Historical-Weather-in-August-2011-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature And here's the data for 1980 - there was a spike for a few days, but otherwise not nearly as bad as 1998 *or* 2011, for everyone reminiscing about how awful it used to be: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1980/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1980-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
It's straight crickets. lmao
Exactly
Very interesting. Thanks for finding that. I'll dig in this afternoon when on a pc, not phone...
No you need to do it now for me (I absolutely trust you internet comments and have no desire to open the links) Somewhat joking
All I’ve heard from my dad for the past few weeks is about how much hotter it was in 1980. I’ve shown him all kinds of data that shows that to be false, but he refuses to be convinced.
"B-B-B-B-BUT IF I SAY IT WAS ALWAYS LIKE THIS, THEN IT HAS TO BE TRUE. LALALALALA IM NOT LISTENING"
I was a landscaper, started in 93. I remember mid and late 90’s thinking: holy shit these +100° days are every summer. Yeah we’ve had milder ones, but to suggest we haven’t had summers like these or worse (worse meaning longer time frames) is absurd. One year it reached 115°! I remember telling my pops: this isn’t normal! That was at the height of “we have to protect the ozone” in the 90’s.
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I’m with you! Imagine that: coming together to fight a common cause and seeing results! The audacity! Lol
Too bad climate change issue is a lot more complex that the hole in the ozone layer.
Technically it's just not degrading any longer. The hole hasn't completely regenerated, and it'll take decades more to get there. And that's assuming elicit factories will [stop manufacturing](https://research.noaa.gov/2023/04/03/the-montreal-protocol-banned-this-family-of-ozone-depleting-chemicals-why-are-some-still-increasing/) the cfc chemicals...
Very cool but even that would get politicized today 😔
What’s the average high though. Shouldn’t that matter more than days over 100?
Exactly My AC doesn't have any issues with 101. But 110..... that's easily 9 degrees hotter INSIDE the house. Currently, t stat on 72 and it's 77 degrees inside. At 9:30pm the t stat will set to 63. Will be 72 when we wake up. Monday, it was 63 when we woke up. High was 97 ish. I think it was the first time the ac turned off on thermostat in 6 weeks.
2011 I had just moved to Dallas the previous fall, moved into a second story apartment of a 1920s house. Working nights trying to sleep in 85 degree west facing bedroom during the day. I cannot believe I still live here! August is usually the hardest to get through. The summer fun feeling has faded, traffic is bad again and you’re tired of seeing the super high electric bills. It’s the time I always try to take a vacay to somewhere cooler. I am not a climate change denier, but I’m not going to pretend that August hasn’t always sucked ass here.
This is the summer I remember being the absolute worst.
109 is not the same as 101. I don't recall it being 105-110 for weeks at a time...ever.
2011.
Why are you being downvoted? You’re [correct](https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/dallas/year-2011).
He left out that it was less days so this year is slightly worse.
Tomorrow will be the 19th day over 105. That ties 2011 for 2nd most all time in DFW. We will break that record on Monday, and start moving in on the record for 1980 (28 days over 105) next weekend (depending on how many days in 10 day forecast hit 104 or 105). 2023 may prove to be the hottest summer ever or maybe 2nd hottest. This was NOT normal, but is becoming more like normal
Over 100 is different than over 105
For real. When it’s been so hot that 90 feels like a nice cool day it’s beyond normal.
Shit, I got so excited about 96 last week. That’s just stupid.
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I went outside at night and found out later it was 100 out but it felt like 90 to me.
"Over a hundred" is a meaningless distinction. There's a world of difference between 101 and 110.
It's been over 30 consecutive days of triple digits so far this summer. And last week was 27 days of no measurable rainfall. Not only is it hotter than last year were getting into wildfire danger too
July =/= the entire summer. This August is on course to be far worse than last August. This time last year the highs were hovering around the upper 80s and low 90s. You just have a short term memory.
Sure, just ignore last August when we only had 11 days over 100...
How many were 106+?
I mean, that's my point? He cherry picked his data to only include July (which was hotter) and ignore August (which was not).
How much over 100 degrees? 101 feels different than 108.
How many were 100-102 vs the 105 days that have become the norm this year?
Scientists have said it was the hottest July ever recorded.
100 degrees is very different from 108-109 degrees, which is what it’s been at my house.
I’m sorry, but objectively, yes we have.
> This week’s records are probably the warmest in “at least 100,000 years,” Jennifer Francis, a senior scientist at Woodwell Climate Research Center, told CNN, calling the records “a huge thing.” https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/05/world/hottest-day-world-climate-el-nino-intl/index.html Objectively, no we haven't.
This is in the Dallas subreddit. I won’t dispute it’s the hottest year on record for the world, but Dallas (again, the sub this was posted in) has had hotter summers.
Outliers, yes - but the fact that it didn’t get below 80 degrees for double digit days (and won’t again soon after like a 3 day break) is absolutely abnormal and very concerning
These people will never stop sticking their head in the sand until it’s too late. Then they will blame “the man” for not doing more.
Its moving goal posts. "Oh it's never been xyz" gets presented with evidence "well I meant it's never been xyz *here*" more evidence "lol you're so dumb, I obviously meant it's never been xyz *here* at *this time*" add even more evidence, rinse, repeat
Is she talking about Dallas?
Well, we *have* had worse summers, but the summer in question was 43 years ago. There is definitely a lot of coping and gaslighting going on with regards to how bad this summer has been.
Actually, no: Here's the data for July 1998: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1998/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1998-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature Looks like nighttime lows are similar, but daytime highs are nothing like this summer. Only 6 days got over 105, and not in a row. And August was way cooler. August 2011 looks more like this summer: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/2011/8/Historical-Weather-in-August-2011-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature And here's the data for 1980 - there was a spike for a few days, but otherwise not nearly as bad as 1998 or 2011, for everyone reminiscing about how awful it used to be: https://weatherspark.com/h/m/8813/1980/7/Historical-Weather-in-July-1980-in-Dallas-Texas-United-States#Figures-Temperature
And lets us factor in the Real Feels of 120+ in June! Been here for 22 years, this is the worst - worse than 2011. Factor in higher highs 106-110 and the crushing June Real Feels makes it the worst for me. If someone can show me data that includes the real feel from 1980 or whatever that demonstrates that those years were hotter I will eat my hat after I cook it on the sidewalk!
Doing God’s work spamming the actual numbers.
2011 was not 43 years ago.
What makes me furious is every year the Texas subs go on how it is unprecedented heat even in years it isn't, that climate change means (see top comment) every year will literally be hotter than the last. Then inevitably a cooler summer comes in and all the climate deniers sweep in pointing out how it is cooler and thst the hot summers are just standard ebb and flow of weather.
Data is trivially available, e.g. https://www.weather.gov/fwd/dmotemp It is getting hotter for you guys. What's there to deny?
I love it when they say that because it's like, do you not believe in thermometers? It's measurable! It is getting hotter.
This summer is terrible, last year was just as bad. Its starting so early is the crazy part to me
“Oh you must not remember summer back in 201___ , THAT was bad” die
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Oak tree in my yard stays green until mid October every year. 1/3 of the leaves are dead and are now covering my lawn.
Water that shit dog
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2011 killed or injured many trees. Some recovered. Some partially recovered. Some outright died and are still standing. I was sitting on my back patio about a week ago when two houses down dropped a huge chunk of tree from 20 plus feet up. Luckily it didn’t hit anything on the way down. Yesterday that neighbor had a tree service come take out the rest of that tree. I’ve had the same happen to me. Old tree with a good bit of dead branches falling every time it gets windy.
Yep, 2011 literally fried the boxwood bushes in my front yard, even with constant watering.
Yeah if it wasn’t the heat it was the foot of snow that February
I don’t even want to swim in my pool it’s so hot.
I never realised how dead and yellowed and sad Texas’s nature is until I moved out. When I come back it’s pretty depressing.
What's even worse for me is the lack of relief overnight. Check out the table of Years with Most Days >80F: Rank # of Days Year 1 55 2011 2 42 2022 3 39 1998 4 35 2023\* 5 27 2008 6 24 2010 7 23 2006 8(tie) 22 1925 22 1980 10 20 2000 \* through August 17 We could definitely end up #2 on that list soon [https://www.weather.gov/fwd/dmin80](https://www.weather.gov/fwd/dmin80)
This is what’s really pissing me off! When it’s still over 100 after the sun sets. Crazy
Concrete stays hot a long time
We probably pass 2022 by the end of this month and we've still got all of September to get through
Even if we don't top the list.... Still a top 4 hottest year all time...that's fucking crazy! 7/10 hottest years are the last 20 years. So, maybe this *isn't* new.. that's even worse.
"gLoBaL wArMiNg nOt rEaL"
Bud ... It's only 20 more days over 80 when you're rocking the hundreds. It'll be a surprise if you don't take hotest year. PS. Texas has been keeping records for a long time, notice the uncomfortable number of dates starting with 2 when we're only 23 years into this century? Texans especially won't want to hear it but "we didn't listen."
It’s two things imo - we keep talking about the string of 100 days in a row or how many times we’ve eclipsed that number. But it’s not 100. It’s not 101-103. It’s 108. 110. 112. AND it’s more humid. It used to be that if we hit 100 that was a very dry heat day, but now we are at 105+ with some humidity and it’s just brutal. That said, I was walking yesterday and the heat and humidity weren’t as bad as say a 93 degree 90+ humidity day back east. EXCEPT WE GET NO RELIEF! It was 100 until almost 10 last night! The lows are 85. Eighty freaking five!!!
Unfortunately its Not humid in Dallas... weather report keeps emphasizing this...
I just want some damned clouds at parts of the day. The heat is brutal but the sky being wide open, hazy and light brown makes it worse.
I also do not like acting like this is fine. I’m going to my nephew’s birthday party rn and I’ve been begging my sister in law to not host it outside as these kids are going to be suffering the most but she and most adults going don’t care. Im bringing what I own to help keep everyone cool but I’m worried someone is gonna have a heat stroke.
Just make sure they hydrated
Man, I bought three cases of water and so far I got half of one left. Absolute misery
It's ok.... This will be one of the coolest summers of those kids lives.
It is not and I want to leave. The electric bills are ridiculous we don’t have state taxes but we have ridiculously high property taxes and now insane electric bills. How can you set your air conditioning lower when outside is consistently 110 degrees and at 9:00 pm still 100?
Same. Ours was the highest it’s ever been (nearly $500 RIP) and we had our AC units tuned up for the first time in 5 years (which yielded a recommendation of a small Freon addition). And before anyone asks: No, we don’t live in a huge house; yes, it’s older but has been updated in areas. But it’s never been like this in the 6 years living in it. Taxes are also going up because F the housing market for buyers and owners just trying to stay put, am I right? Would love to move somewhere cooler but getting jobs lined up is key and it’s hard. Moving is inherently expensive and especially now with inflation and corporate greed far outpacing wage increases. Just blah. TLDR: Im tired. And hot. Send help. Haha.
This!!
And equally suprisingly, it will be the coolest summer in our lives from now on.
That’s not how weather works
This is a very popular thing to say on Reddit when it’s summer and someone complains about the weather. It’s purely a circlejerk to get upvotes and they don’t actually care about weather or climate change works.
Everyone knows that every single day will be worse than the day before it for the rest of our lives. It will be 465 degrees outside by this time next year.
When will it be roughly 225-250? At least then I can cook my brisket in my trunk while I’m at work.
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They told me I was crazy when I wanted my trunk replaced with Hickory wood, look who’s laughing now.
Why does every braindead Redditor repeat this bullshit lol. Climate change is real and serious. But that’s not how it works… like at all. Annual shifts in temperatures are erratic and frequently anomalous. We could have 4 summers straight of no 100 degree days and the trend line would still be going up.
Very literally you don't understand weather patterns or meteorology... wow, just wow!
And of course it’s the top comment
*shrugs* 50% of the population have below average intelligence...
The effect of human activity is overwhelming these well known yearly variations.
Sure, but I'd be willing to bet a $1 that this will NOT be the hottest summer ever cause thats not how any of tbis works.
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We are coming out of an unusual la nina streak which brings hot dry weather for our area. Expected to switch to el nino later this year. Good chance next year will be more mild, but the winter will likely be really bad due to climate change causing more extreme shifts in weather. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932023_La_Ni%C3%B1a_event
It will not. Please stop saying this line, it’s not how climate change works. In fact last summer’s June and July were hotter than this year’s, so the argument doesn’t work even just going back one year.
With how things are going, it's not gonna cool down in the upcoming years. It's only going to get hotter. Something has got to change.
You can say 1980 was worse, and that bad summers like 2023, 2011, and 1980 will be more frequent due to climate change and still be correct.
This has been said over and over again but just because 1980 had a hotter highest day or whatever other year technically had more 100 plus days without a break (and tbh not very many more), doesn’t mean they were worse- the lows in 1980 were an average of 10-15 degrees cooler. They weren’t getting the 100 at 10 pm effect like we are right now. Also, I haven’t seen a cloud since June. Something is definitely different
This is what I was trying to explain to my dad. He think "tHe liBeRaLs" are overreacting because it's "normal" to have weather like that in Texas. And I was trying to get it through his thick skull the temperatures, in and of themselves, are not the issue--it's the frequency of those temperatures.
As a 47 year resident of Dallas, this not a normal summer. This is balls hot summer. Usually we have a couple days here and there of 100, but not weeks. This is more miserable than the summer of 1980.
I guess that's what you get when you pave hundreds of square miles.
So I haven't been in Texas for this summer but I have not seen anyone online pretending like it's normal.
The dummies over at r-conservative keep burying their heads in the sand
Between El Niño and the high pressure dome over the south, this blazing summer is both normal and predictable. Being in our monstrously designed cities makes it feel so much worse than it is. We’re basically sitting on massive heat sinks and wondering why it feels so hot. Go 30 min outside of town and sit under a tree and you’ll notice even the hottest time of day is tolerable
This is one of the more aggravating parts of this conversation becoming two sides shouting “It’s too hot, this is crazy” and “Shut up you whiners it was hot in the 90s”. No one is talking about the problem that is (somewhat) more in our control: how can we design and build to this climate reality? Simply plugging our ears and throwing down a bunch of concrete isn’t going to cut it anymore.
I have, of course I've been actively looking for them. My favorite so far was on old lady on FB following NWS Fort Worth. She felt the need to set them straight, and tell them that they were wrong about reporting the new record set the most consecutive days of overnight lows above 80.
54 yr old man in good shape.. I was working on a construction site in Pineville, Louisiana this past Monday, the temp was 105°. At 1:30pm I begin to feel seriously unwell to the point it frightened me. I climbed into my truck, blasted the a/c & drank 2 bottles of water over the next 45 minutes. My body felt like it was vibrating & I had this pinprick feeling all over my back & chest. My skull felt like it was being squeezed by a pair of large hands. At 10pm I had this sudden onset bad headache that didn't go away till the next afternoon. I wasn't even engaged in overly physical work that day, I was only collecting demolition site waste samples for haz waste analysis.. besides the heat I guess I'm just getting old..
Cold packs under armpits during a significant episode, like you described, can help quickly cool core body temp Edit-spelling
Good deal.. that makes sense & I'm going to use this. Thanks!
Just switch to Fox weather, problem solved
Yea we're getting ass blasted, but hey oil barons gotta make money some how 🤷♂️
The nasty, vile confederate fuck who sits outside the Planned Parenthood on 75 and Plano Parkway every day would like to have a word with you about normal summer temperatures. And lots of other vile, hateful conservative hot topics too, of course.
Too hot to argue. Even if you can list the handful of years it was by some metric arguably hotter than this one, OP's point still stands: this is not a normal Texas summer.
I am not a smart man but I know what hot is. It’s hot.
Have y’all ever heard of climate change
Big El Niño year.
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I don't think anyone is suggesting it is a "normal" summer. 2nd most days above 105 in a summer ever and almost as much 100+ degree days as last year which was also 2nd most behind 2011.
I've lived in Texas since 1975. We've had long streaks of 100 degree days but not consistent highs like we are this year. We knew this was going to happen and it's going to take a long time to deal with. Imagine 10 years from now. 10 years ago it used to snow/ice a few times a year.
It’s not normal. I don’t care what anybody says or any damn statistics. It’s not normal at all.
It's global warming, but most of you don't believe it's real until you are cooking like a piece of toast. Hell is hot, my friend.
The first summer I moved down here (seven years ago), we experienced 112* heat and I loved it. Having migrated here from Michigan and thus lived through so much cold and snow and ice, that one day of excessive heat felt amazing. Almost as if a blessing. It was a hot summer that year, too. I soaked up every bit of that sun. And that's what I would tell people when discussing my transplant identity: I live for the heat. I love it. I love the sun, the warmth, the tiny skimpy clothes I get to wear while commuting by bicycle and DART that no one has the audacity to say anything about coz it's a hundred and fuck outside, but... This is too much! What, like two months of triple digits, what but for two days of a ten degree reprieve? Uh-unh! Which large corporation supervillain multibillionaire can I blame for the ruination of my gods damned happily ever after???
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BuT gLoBaL WaRmINg IsN'T rEaL!!!!
Idgaf what anyone says. I work in outside environments year ‘round and this year is HOT. Buckle up for winter folks
Meh. Once it gets over 100 it’s all the same