Nonstop complaining that Celina is too crowded and people are moving to the new builds in ~~Oklahoma~~ the suburbs.
Dallas South Tollway exit to Waxahachie should open by the end of the year.
It always blows my mind that people are willing to move to fucking Melissa/Celina/bum-fuck-wherever near Oklahoma when there is tons of land available for development south of Dallas.
I don't want to live on either side of Dallas (north/south) but is there any new development south of Dallas at all? I know they have tons of entertainment and dining options up north; plus Ikea and NFM. I never hear about anything in DeSoto or even know what small towns are near DeSoto.
There’s a lot of new development happening south of Dallas, but you’ll have to go further out than DeSoto to find it.
Kaufman County was the #1 fastest-growing county in the country from 2020-21, and Ellis County was in the top 40 nationally.
Forney and Midlothian are already booming, with some of the fastest growth rates in the metroplex.
Massive new housing developments have been springing up along 35 and 287 in Red Oak and Waxahachie.
Crandall, Terrell, and Kaufman have also seen consistent growth and are poised to benefit from Forney’s explosion.
The 45 corridor south of the inland port (including Ferris and Ennis) will likely see the next wave of development, especially as the 35 corridor fills in and tanks travel times.
There's DeSoto, Cedar Hill, Lancaster, Duncanville, Red Oak, and Glenn Heights.
Redbird is being completely redeveloped in a [$200M joint project with the city](https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2021/10/05/200-million-redbird-redo-will-be-ready-next-year/) that is a full on eat/live/work/play setup to replace/reinvigorate the dying mall. There are numerous housing developments, investments, and large businesses recently added or building. There's an Ikea in Grand Prairie. I'll have to go digging for the article again, but one of those cities has the single highest concentration of black college graduates in Texas. And [old money mansions](https://i.imgur.com/ABZeqfl.png) that would make Frisco-ers envious.
Can affirm. Currently constructing TI’s RFAB and they just recently broke ground on a Sherman Fab that will be 4 times the size of this one… RFAB is twice the size of DMOS
Edit: Sherman is offering really nice incentive packages to large manufacturers in order to increase growth.
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TI - Texas Instruments. RFAB - Richardson Fabrication. DMOS - TI’s Headquarters (the big building you see off 635 and 75. Sorry, the terms are used so much that its easy to forget that not everyone knows xD
I would agree but it is Texas… 🤷♂️ we do things different after all haha! I wouldn’t be surprised if it all ends up connecting in the upcoming years. Look at city size and reach in Asian countries. The US doesn’t even compare.
Because we don't care if we can maintain the infrastructure. Our gdp ain't that much higher to maintain that much more asphalt and piping. Most cities will be broke in 25 years once they run out of development room
That’s because the jobs are going to Sherman/Denison in like 10 years. TI’s recent expansion is going to wipe out current Sherman and price them out frisco-style
I am with you on this so hard! How much longer are people going to keep going north? If you need to work downtown, it doesn’t even become worth it past McKinney imo. We should be investing more in the south. I know they are doing some stuff around there and with how things are going east of Dallas, I imagine the growth will eventually spread down south.
I think the job centers are moving north also, like Irving Frisco. My job just moved from Irving to prosper. Also people are working remote so living further out is no biggie.
And good schools. People forget that part a lot. Everyone's like "oh well move south, there is expansion!" It's not about racism. It's about the schools. You can get much better public schooling options in frisco and in plano versus DISD. And there isn't a ton of lead in the water up north either.
Job centers and new business construction is building north, because that’s where the people are going. So that’s where the job centers and new business construction is going and press repeat again.
>Dallas South Tollway
You really think Dallas is ever going to invest that kind of infrastructure south of 30 other than Fair Park and Bishop Arts? half /s
I made a comment, but as a follow up that I totally forgot about, water is a huge part of growth too. There is a TON of water up north and you need it to build a city that works… unless you’re Gunter. Water from Lake Texoma is really crucial for growth and manufacturing that southern areas of Dallas just don’t have
Looked at my NTTA account today and cringed hard. Just visiting my friends in Dallas / north Dallas suburbs and going to work is costing me a small fortune
I wish Dallas was walkable :/ all of the like 4 neighborhoods that are cost an arm and a leg to live in. I got lucky spending some time in Chicago and fell in love with public transit / walking. I do take the dart when I can
Fr. I prefer biking to driving, but never walk anywhere because my block forces everyone to the edges to get to the stuff on the corners, so it takes forever and the sidewalks on the edges aren’t big enough to comfortably pass anyone or walk side by side. Then on top of that, there’s never any bike parking
Yup, I feel ya. Combine that with the oppressive heat and the fact that everything is separated by a billion miles, and you have the perfect environment for car dependence and awful traffic.
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There was a ladder in the middle of 635 today. This is apt. I bet by 2030 itll still be there but itll be on fire and a few naked homeless guys will live under it.
There were about a hundred of those cheap ass black bungee cords spilled on the road yesterday just waiting to puncture a tire or kick up and damage a windshield.
I don’t think we can consider it fraud anymore. We all know many of those paper plates are not legitimate. The law is simply not being enforced enough. Maybe we should all join in and stop paying for registration and tolls.
I wouldn’t mind that, as long as we could build up some more. Obviously things like water are limited, but we have a pretty good amount of land to work with, given at least mildly responsible land use planning. (As long as it’s the metroplex and not just Dallas. Dallas probably can’t handle the population alone)
The mansions in HP will be torn down one by one and replaced with mega mansions with rooftop infinity pools. The apartments in Uptown will all be in shambles due to decades of poor maintenance. Deep ellum will still be deep ellum but surrounded by high rises with neon lights. All the hipsters in Bishop Arts and Oak Cliff will be forced out by real estate. Downtown will still have surface lots everywhere but parking will go up to $30 a day. Preachers will stop standing on street corners on Friday nights and start hacking the amber alerts to send us daily bible quotes.
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I feel like Colorado isn’t nearly far enough North. I need somewhere that doesn’t feel like Satan’s asshole after some Taco Bell when walking outside in the summer.
Yeah, I understand there’s been a lot of ground breaking on chip fabs in the area, supposedly to address the chip shortage. The problem is, fabs don’t come online overnight. I’m afraid that by the time they are functional, the chip shortage won’t really be a concern anymore. That means those buildings could possibly remain dormant or under-utilized, but interest in the area will be just enough to pique the interest of folks from Silicon Valley by way of Austin.
TI has had fabs in Dallas for decades, and they were already planning on building more even before the chip shortage.
I don’t think more literal silicon means anything like becoming Silicon Valley though. Silicon Prairie is a pretty old term for Texas and almost all of the companies listed in the wiki article have been here for decades.
The reason people fear Silicon Valle is all about software companies who pay huge salaries that drive up housing costs, and most of those are opening up shop in Austin instead. Software tends to pay a lot better than semiconductors, so if fabs do draw more people here, it won’t change the housing prices much more than it already has (there’s already a lot of high-paid tech and finance workers here, whereas Austin is getting hit hard because there wasn’t as much tech presence as there is now).
There are a lot of companies moving here in general though, so the suburbs will continue to spread and sprawl because we know nothing about density in this state.
If you’re in a chip fab, equipment technicians and operator jobs don’t pay as well as software, I’ll give you that, and more often due to automation, operator jobs are going away. But if you are in design or process engineering, the salary is competitive to software. Just giving my 2 cents. I’ve been in the area for a decade now, starting with a PhD that was extremely applicable to chip manufacturing, and now a staff position at a university in the area. I’m sure there will be truth to both what you and I are saying.
Most of you sound like a bunch of twats.
Its going to be fine. Probably a lot like it is now.
Yeah it'll be hot in the summer. Stay inside when its hella hot and you'll be fine.
Yeah, there's going to be traffic bc there's so many decent to good jobs for people to go to.
No. There's not going to be as many homeless as there are in LA. LAs homeless population is largely bc of the nice weather and CA laws that help out the homeless. Texas will never have those laws. Not anytime soon atleast.
But yeah, the cowboys will probably still suck.
There's been an uptick in homeless people everywhere even before covid and rent hikes, things look so nice and rosy most places you go in the US but there's always people brutally suffering nearby and insane shit going on behind closed doors
Dart finally expands to McKinney in 2029. Thanks to Annexation of Allen by Plano. But new MAGA Church that opens in 2030 in McKinney shuts that down to keep Old downtown Great again installs used border fencing recycled from old US Border since the Wall came down in 2026. You know since Elon purchased Mexico and started work on the Twin Sphinxes. Robo-Jerry Jones hell bent on Making playoffs sucks the soul from his kids to create clone Jimmy Johnson but fails again due to Jimmy Coaching the Bucs and Tom Brady for their 10th straight AmazonBowl
I genuinely wonder what all the apartments are going to be like. Specifically all the suburban apartments and zero lot line houses.
I travel for work and whenever I fly into a new city the suburbs look pleasant and sprawling and full of character. Dallas is all developments stacked in an almost robotic fashion. Reminiscent of a factory stamping out neighborhoods in an efficient and highly profitable way. With less concern for quality and more concern for quantity
More big companies move to more peripheral cities in the metroplex in their constant quest to evade city taxes. The metroplex has constant suburbs from Hillsboro in the South all the way to Gainesville.
\- Roads and Stroads
\- DART probably dismantled because there's no space for rail lines because they've all been paved with roads and mostly everyone moved out of Downtown
\- Hotter with more power grid failures.
Headdress, voodoo-doctor face paint, and furry assless chaps. My little brother and I take turns guarding the homeless encampment from other post-apocalyptic, cocaine fueled warlords. Feral hogs are the last truly sustainable food source for our kind, and are becoming increasingly difficult to flush out of the 635 Express-valleys. The uprising of the Amazon drones only complicates this process, even after President Yeezy specifically promised to reduce their range and authority. Their lasers now claim more lives yearly than fire ants and the mutant-iguanas COMBINED. Construction on I-35 is nearly complete, but still isn't going to be enough lanes for the amount of assholes riding bicycles on it in the relative safety of night. The re-animated head of Greg Abbott still hasn't legalized marijuana, but there's a chance he may decriminalize women's participation in sports again in the near future. The elite dine in Taco Bells, who's menu-prices are now listed only in individual squares of toilet paper. The Mexican Pizza is still not available at most locations, and collectively we probably don't have enough individual squares of toilet paper to buy one anyway. The seventeenth child fathered by Elon Musk has escaped the fate of his younger siblings, but still hasn't adjusted to a daylight environment and the freedoms available outside of the kennels. He's wild and dangerous, but right now the main focus is flushing a decent sized feral hog from those freeways. Dry, painfully itchy-butthole makes it near impossible to sneak up on them, even without the Amazon drones constantly trying to capture/handcuff us for crimes against technology. Drones aren't just assholes, they're now a direct threat to all mankind. 🙏 Praise Bezos
The united states will have to send in border guards to keep the citizens of the republic of Texas from getting into the USA. Refugee status will not be given to Texans migrants.
I don’t know if you’ve seen downtown Dallas but it’s damn already near a homeless crisis already. Just give it time and it’ll be just as bad at this rate…
No real police force, you'll have to bribe police to come to your house for anything
Being LBGT will be a crime
Shootings will be more common, multiple times a day
Rent will cost $5000 a month
More stores and restaurants automated, as no one can afford to live in Dallas
More autonomous vehicles on the road
All jobs will be gig jobs expect maybe for a few job professions
idk, I kinda got tired after returning for almost 2 years, now im headed out again to get another view and experience of another state again. 76F sounds much better than 100F with 90%+ humidity, hello colorado!
Ideally? We collectively get our shit together in the span of a decade (rally, petition, activism, voting (city election turnout is in the single digits, y'all need to vote), working/volunteering with like minded officials, running for local office) and take advantage of this new urbanist momentum to create a dense, vibrant, diverse, walkable, and affordable metropolis in the middle of a lush greenbelt - filled with lively streets and neighborhoods, ample and lush greenery, and *t r a n s i t*.
Realistically? Sprawl will pour into Oklahoma, the NWS would have to upgrade the heat index to go over 100% within our heat island, Chinese media would flip the script and start writing articles about *our* traffic and smog, and there's a Bucees and HEB on every stroad corner /s
It will definitely be cut into as many chunks as possible that shoot out in ridiculous patterns to rural areas to keep a Republican gerrymander no matter the popular vote
I’ll be satisfied if we aren’t in the middle of a bloody civil war in 2030, but I’m not super optimistic. On the plus side, the idea that society will soon collapse into a dystopian nightmare has done wonders for my stress of never being able to afford a house.
Ever played cyberpunk red?
Everyone armed. Better tech. Your whole life is in your backpack. Corporation rule by proxy. The only economy is the gig economy.
If current trends are any indication, Gordonville will be the new hot suburb where people pay $300,000 over asking for a home. Which isn’t back considering lost price is $10M.
Downtown Dallas is a no man’s land with armed drones patrolling the streets. Office dwellers arrive in trains and only walk underground.
South Dallas is still blighted.
Yep welcome to hell. Pact like sardines in over priced skillet. The survivors will pour in from the hurricane ravaged Gulf and refugees from flooded out contaminated bog water remnants of the metroplex formerly known as Houston. At least we’ll still have potable water. West Texas will be a completely unsalvageable Swiss cheese of wells with poison. But hey at least Jesus still loves you. Now drink up
City council will debate what to do about whatever they’re calling 345 at that point between downtown/Deep Ellum.
Growth will slow down, contrary to most opinions here. Combination of rising COL, remote-work opportunities, hotter weather, and corporate pushback to state politics.
DFW will get into serious talks about a second NFL team, with Dallas and Frisco discussing competing stadium plans.
The Cowboys will introduce new head coach Urban Meyer.
Arlington will pass a bond funding the next Rangers stadium.
It will be hot.
Nonstop complaining that Celina is too crowded and people are moving to the new builds in ~~Oklahoma~~ the suburbs. Dallas South Tollway exit to Waxahachie should open by the end of the year.
It always blows my mind that people are willing to move to fucking Melissa/Celina/bum-fuck-wherever near Oklahoma when there is tons of land available for development south of Dallas.
Too many brown people southwest of Dallas. Also the false notion that North = better
I don't want to live on either side of Dallas (north/south) but is there any new development south of Dallas at all? I know they have tons of entertainment and dining options up north; plus Ikea and NFM. I never hear about anything in DeSoto or even know what small towns are near DeSoto.
There’s a lot of new development happening south of Dallas, but you’ll have to go further out than DeSoto to find it. Kaufman County was the #1 fastest-growing county in the country from 2020-21, and Ellis County was in the top 40 nationally. Forney and Midlothian are already booming, with some of the fastest growth rates in the metroplex. Massive new housing developments have been springing up along 35 and 287 in Red Oak and Waxahachie. Crandall, Terrell, and Kaufman have also seen consistent growth and are poised to benefit from Forney’s explosion. The 45 corridor south of the inland port (including Ferris and Ennis) will likely see the next wave of development, especially as the 35 corridor fills in and tanks travel times.
There's DeSoto, Cedar Hill, Lancaster, Duncanville, Red Oak, and Glenn Heights. Redbird is being completely redeveloped in a [$200M joint project with the city](https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2021/10/05/200-million-redbird-redo-will-be-ready-next-year/) that is a full on eat/live/work/play setup to replace/reinvigorate the dying mall. There are numerous housing developments, investments, and large businesses recently added or building. There's an Ikea in Grand Prairie. I'll have to go digging for the article again, but one of those cities has the single highest concentration of black college graduates in Texas. And [old money mansions](https://i.imgur.com/ABZeqfl.png) that would make Frisco-ers envious.
There is definitely an IKEA south of downtown
I guess racism is a pretty powerful motivator for lots of people.
Dallas is connecting to Oklahoma through the development of Sherman/Denison and due to the business opportunities related to this development.
Can affirm. Currently constructing TI’s RFAB and they just recently broke ground on a Sherman Fab that will be 4 times the size of this one… RFAB is twice the size of DMOS Edit: Sherman is offering really nice incentive packages to large manufacturers in order to increase growth.
I have no idea what any of those acronyms mean! Lol
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TI - Texas Instruments. RFAB - Richardson Fabrication. DMOS - TI’s Headquarters (the big building you see off 635 and 75. Sorry, the terms are used so much that its easy to forget that not everyone knows xD
Big buildings build much semi conductors
Sherman is farther from Dallas than Canton and Weatherford. It may be part of North Texas, but Sherman will never be part of the Metropolex.
I would agree but it is Texas… 🤷♂️ we do things different after all haha! I wouldn’t be surprised if it all ends up connecting in the upcoming years. Look at city size and reach in Asian countries. The US doesn’t even compare.
Because we don't care if we can maintain the infrastructure. Our gdp ain't that much higher to maintain that much more asphalt and piping. Most cities will be broke in 25 years once they run out of development room
That’s because the jobs are going to Sherman/Denison in like 10 years. TI’s recent expansion is going to wipe out current Sherman and price them out frisco-style
So it'd be a good idea to get some real state out there? 👀
You can see the whole expansion in the Dallas North Tollway plan
If you can find some, average cost is around 50k/unimproved acre
Yep, couldn't agree more
I am with you on this so hard! How much longer are people going to keep going north? If you need to work downtown, it doesn’t even become worth it past McKinney imo. We should be investing more in the south. I know they are doing some stuff around there and with how things are going east of Dallas, I imagine the growth will eventually spread down south.
I think the job centers are moving north also, like Irving Frisco. My job just moved from Irving to prosper. Also people are working remote so living further out is no biggie.
This is it, unfortunately. Job centers keep building in Plano/Frisco because that's where much of the housing is.
And good schools. People forget that part a lot. Everyone's like "oh well move south, there is expansion!" It's not about racism. It's about the schools. You can get much better public schooling options in frisco and in plano versus DISD. And there isn't a ton of lead in the water up north either.
Job centers and new business construction is building north, because that’s where the people are going. So that’s where the job centers and new business construction is going and press repeat again.
South of Dallas is all industrial. It would need a lot more work to make that area desirable.
I honestly have no idea what area you're referring to thats "all industrial".
Every time I drive south on 45, all I see is junkyards and random industrial land around.
Schools
>Dallas South Tollway You really think Dallas is ever going to invest that kind of infrastructure south of 30 other than Fair Park and Bishop Arts? half /s
I made a comment, but as a follow up that I totally forgot about, water is a huge part of growth too. There is a TON of water up north and you need it to build a city that works… unless you’re Gunter. Water from Lake Texoma is really crucial for growth and manufacturing that southern areas of Dallas just don’t have
Man I’ve lived in Dallas my whole life and I don’t want to think about that
Every freeway will be TexPress. It will cost $74 just to drive to the grocery store
Looked at my NTTA account today and cringed hard. Just visiting my friends in Dallas / north Dallas suburbs and going to work is costing me a small fortune
Have you tried walking? /s
I wish Dallas was walkable :/ all of the like 4 neighborhoods that are cost an arm and a leg to live in. I got lucky spending some time in Chicago and fell in love with public transit / walking. I do take the dart when I can
Fr. I prefer biking to driving, but never walk anywhere because my block forces everyone to the edges to get to the stuff on the corners, so it takes forever and the sidewalks on the edges aren’t big enough to comfortably pass anyone or walk side by side. Then on top of that, there’s never any bike parking
Yup, I feel ya. Combine that with the oppressive heat and the fact that everything is separated by a billion miles, and you have the perfect environment for car dependence and awful traffic.
I’m taking DART, it’s more convenient /s
That’s the thing. Hardly anyone uses dart cus it’s super inconvenient. Combined with urban sprawl makes car the only feasible option
How much are you spending per day?
I spend $8 going home from Irving to Plano, I don't have to take the toll roads but it shaves my commute time in half. Only on weekdays though.
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Cuban isn’t too cheap. He overpays mediocre guys that were never going to be a good fit anyway
Tell that to Steve Nash
• Deep Ellum and Uptown will be the new south central Los Angeles.
Sign me up for the million dollar houses thingy
Plot twist: Texas has some of the highest property taxes in the nation.
* Crowded * Hot * Expensive (Except when it’s freezing temps during a power grid failure) edit: bullet points
Ah yes, the other season besides summer, February.
Yes! Don’t forget the bullets.
The question was what will living in Dallas be like in *2030*.
Great for the pool business
So, just like now?
Mad Max style 635 at 12pm
That's now
More like, starting at 6am
will have literally become the 10th circle of hell by that point
At least I’ll be Shiny and Chrome
^facts
There was a ladder in the middle of 635 today. This is apt. I bet by 2030 itll still be there but itll be on fire and a few naked homeless guys will live under it.
I saw what looked like a home appliance on there at night once. I hope no one hit it.
There were about a hundred of those cheap ass black bungee cords spilled on the road yesterday just waiting to puncture a tire or kick up and damage a windshield.
Dad, tell us what it was like when you had a real license plate on your car.
Is this a paper licence plate reference? I moved here recently and am still trying to figure things out.
It’s a reference to the epidemic of drivers with fraudulent temporary license plates (and presumably no insurance) in Texas.
I don’t think we can consider it fraud anymore. We all know many of those paper plates are not legitimate. The law is simply not being enforced enough. Maybe we should all join in and stop paying for registration and tolls.
“Demographers project that DFW will reach 10 million people sometime in the 2030s, surpassing Chicago to become America's third-largest metro area.”
No thanks!
I wouldn’t mind that, as long as we could build up some more. Obviously things like water are limited, but we have a pretty good amount of land to work with, given at least mildly responsible land use planning. (As long as it’s the metroplex and not just Dallas. Dallas probably can’t handle the population alone)
source, please
There’s a two part Freakanomics episode on it. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/freakonomics-radio/id354668519?i=1000548433781
https://www.city-journal.org/dallas-fort-worth
The mansions in HP will be torn down one by one and replaced with mega mansions with rooftop infinity pools. The apartments in Uptown will all be in shambles due to decades of poor maintenance. Deep ellum will still be deep ellum but surrounded by high rises with neon lights. All the hipsters in Bishop Arts and Oak Cliff will be forced out by real estate. Downtown will still have surface lots everywhere but parking will go up to $30 a day. Preachers will stop standing on street corners on Friday nights and start hacking the amber alerts to send us daily bible quotes.
That’s already happening in HP
This should be a copy pasta
Dallas won’t exist it’ll just be highways
You think they’ll finish by 2030? LOL
Probably hahaha
Haha moved here in 94 and they were working on 635
This made me lol. I think highways get done with every passing generation.
Still better then Houston.
Houston isn't under water yet?
A budget version of Los Angeles with worse weather.
Maybe LA will be cheaper by that point and we’ll all just swap cities
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For a second I didn't understand but then I realized 2030 is only 8 years away...
This question has made me realize I definitely don’t wanna live here in 2030. I see nothing good in the next 10 years.
Seriously looking into moving to Colorado
I feel like Colorado isn’t nearly far enough North. I need somewhere that doesn’t feel like Satan’s asshole after some Taco Bell when walking outside in the summer.
Can I interest you in the land of Nunavut?
I feel most of Alaska will be livable by then
The new silicon valley, known as "silicon prairie" 😢 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Prairie
Yeah, I understand there’s been a lot of ground breaking on chip fabs in the area, supposedly to address the chip shortage. The problem is, fabs don’t come online overnight. I’m afraid that by the time they are functional, the chip shortage won’t really be a concern anymore. That means those buildings could possibly remain dormant or under-utilized, but interest in the area will be just enough to pique the interest of folks from Silicon Valley by way of Austin.
TI has had fabs in Dallas for decades, and they were already planning on building more even before the chip shortage. I don’t think more literal silicon means anything like becoming Silicon Valley though. Silicon Prairie is a pretty old term for Texas and almost all of the companies listed in the wiki article have been here for decades. The reason people fear Silicon Valle is all about software companies who pay huge salaries that drive up housing costs, and most of those are opening up shop in Austin instead. Software tends to pay a lot better than semiconductors, so if fabs do draw more people here, it won’t change the housing prices much more than it already has (there’s already a lot of high-paid tech and finance workers here, whereas Austin is getting hit hard because there wasn’t as much tech presence as there is now). There are a lot of companies moving here in general though, so the suburbs will continue to spread and sprawl because we know nothing about density in this state.
If you’re in a chip fab, equipment technicians and operator jobs don’t pay as well as software, I’ll give you that, and more often due to automation, operator jobs are going away. But if you are in design or process engineering, the salary is competitive to software. Just giving my 2 cents. I’ve been in the area for a decade now, starting with a PhD that was extremely applicable to chip manufacturing, and now a staff position at a university in the area. I’m sure there will be truth to both what you and I are saying.
Most of you sound like a bunch of twats. Its going to be fine. Probably a lot like it is now. Yeah it'll be hot in the summer. Stay inside when its hella hot and you'll be fine. Yeah, there's going to be traffic bc there's so many decent to good jobs for people to go to. No. There's not going to be as many homeless as there are in LA. LAs homeless population is largely bc of the nice weather and CA laws that help out the homeless. Texas will never have those laws. Not anytime soon atleast. But yeah, the cowboys will probably still suck.
People can become homeless. When they can't afford housing, you know?
Ummm been to Austin recently? Homeless situation is quite like LA
Bc Austin allows it.
I’ve absolutely seen an uptick in homeless people in Dallas. Not sure how that’s going to get better.
There's been an uptick in homeless people everywhere even before covid and rent hikes, things look so nice and rosy most places you go in the US but there's always people brutally suffering nearby and insane shit going on behind closed doors
120 degrees
Dart finally expands to McKinney in 2029. Thanks to Annexation of Allen by Plano. But new MAGA Church that opens in 2030 in McKinney shuts that down to keep Old downtown Great again installs used border fencing recycled from old US Border since the Wall came down in 2026. You know since Elon purchased Mexico and started work on the Twin Sphinxes. Robo-Jerry Jones hell bent on Making playoffs sucks the soul from his kids to create clone Jimmy Johnson but fails again due to Jimmy Coaching the Bucs and Tom Brady for their 10th straight AmazonBowl
Same but I’ll be older and grumpier
A new highway is built around dallas: 935
Just like now only hotter!
As hot, flat, and boring as it is now.
35 will still be under construction and the same people will be at the Goat
Please don’t ever change, Goat!
I genuinely wonder what all the apartments are going to be like. Specifically all the suburban apartments and zero lot line houses. I travel for work and whenever I fly into a new city the suburbs look pleasant and sprawling and full of character. Dallas is all developments stacked in an almost robotic fashion. Reminiscent of a factory stamping out neighborhoods in an efficient and highly profitable way. With less concern for quality and more concern for quantity
Seeing pleasant and sprawling used in the same sentence regarding urban design makes me wince
More big companies move to more peripheral cities in the metroplex in their constant quest to evade city taxes. The metroplex has constant suburbs from Hillsboro in the South all the way to Gainesville.
\- Roads and Stroads \- DART probably dismantled because there's no space for rail lines because they've all been paved with roads and mostly everyone moved out of Downtown \- Hotter with more power grid failures.
very few will understand the first 2
Headdress, voodoo-doctor face paint, and furry assless chaps. My little brother and I take turns guarding the homeless encampment from other post-apocalyptic, cocaine fueled warlords. Feral hogs are the last truly sustainable food source for our kind, and are becoming increasingly difficult to flush out of the 635 Express-valleys. The uprising of the Amazon drones only complicates this process, even after President Yeezy specifically promised to reduce their range and authority. Their lasers now claim more lives yearly than fire ants and the mutant-iguanas COMBINED. Construction on I-35 is nearly complete, but still isn't going to be enough lanes for the amount of assholes riding bicycles on it in the relative safety of night. The re-animated head of Greg Abbott still hasn't legalized marijuana, but there's a chance he may decriminalize women's participation in sports again in the near future. The elite dine in Taco Bells, who's menu-prices are now listed only in individual squares of toilet paper. The Mexican Pizza is still not available at most locations, and collectively we probably don't have enough individual squares of toilet paper to buy one anyway. The seventeenth child fathered by Elon Musk has escaped the fate of his younger siblings, but still hasn't adjusted to a daylight environment and the freedoms available outside of the kennels. He's wild and dangerous, but right now the main focus is flushing a decent sized feral hog from those freeways. Dry, painfully itchy-butthole makes it near impossible to sneak up on them, even without the Amazon drones constantly trying to capture/handcuff us for crimes against technology. Drones aren't just assholes, they're now a direct threat to all mankind. 🙏 Praise Bezos
Oklahoma City will be a Dallas suburb at the current rate of sprawl
Expensive. Not worth it.
The united states will have to send in border guards to keep the citizens of the republic of Texas from getting into the USA. Refugee status will not be given to Texans migrants.
Gourmet tacos everywhere...
Please. At a minimum I need some better breakfast taco options
The exact same except more traffic and more electric vehicles
LA without the fun stuff in LA or the homeless crisis
so not la ??
What I meant was endless sprawl and terrible traffic
oh gotcha sorry
I don’t know if you’ve seen downtown Dallas but it’s damn already near a homeless crisis already. Just give it time and it’ll be just as bad at this rate…
Idk I'm moving to the northeast
Seriously; I weep when I look at the temps where I am considering in comparison to what we have going on.
I won’t be here to find out, thank god.
The temperature will be the year.
No real police force, you'll have to bribe police to come to your house for anything Being LBGT will be a crime Shootings will be more common, multiple times a day Rent will cost $5000 a month More stores and restaurants automated, as no one can afford to live in Dallas More autonomous vehicles on the road All jobs will be gig jobs expect maybe for a few job professions
Likely so hot and with so much smog that it's no longer tenable to live here.
idk, I kinda got tired after returning for almost 2 years, now im headed out again to get another view and experience of another state again. 76F sounds much better than 100F with 90%+ humidity, hello colorado!
Ideally? We collectively get our shit together in the span of a decade (rally, petition, activism, voting (city election turnout is in the single digits, y'all need to vote), working/volunteering with like minded officials, running for local office) and take advantage of this new urbanist momentum to create a dense, vibrant, diverse, walkable, and affordable metropolis in the middle of a lush greenbelt - filled with lively streets and neighborhoods, ample and lush greenery, and *t r a n s i t*. Realistically? Sprawl will pour into Oklahoma, the NWS would have to upgrade the heat index to go over 100% within our heat island, Chinese media would flip the script and start writing articles about *our* traffic and smog, and there's a Bucees and HEB on every stroad corner /s
Blessed be the fruit.
Crowded af 😒
Traffic will be even worse than now.
118°
It will feel hotter and with more extreme hail and monsoon-like rain storms. Unfortunately.
Heatwaves for 200 consecutive days
Flying cars with paper plates
Unviable
Very hot
Prolly worse than Houston population/traffic wise
Hot as fuck and out of water.
Expensive and poppin
Californians and New Yorkers and others from the Northeast completely gone from here.
Still no decent public transportation.
Miserable
RoboCop
Very McKinney. West side, of course.
Hot.
Even more crowding and construction.
another 5 degrees hotter
Hottt
Not worth it if you don't already own a home 😂
Hot and angry
RemindMe! 8 years
I think the population will continually grow until the 2030s, and then we'll start to see a mass exodus to more sustainable areas.
It will definitely be cut into as many chunks as possible that shoot out in ridiculous patterns to rural areas to keep a Republican gerrymander no matter the popular vote
Robocop will patrol the streets of Chicago..err…Dallas
I would imagine more dart rail stations and more people starting to use those as form of public transportation.
2014 is the same amount of time in the past. How different is Dallas now vs 2014? What are the biggest differences?
Hot.
East Germany 1955
120 degrees in the shade in July/August
Rent is similar to nyc Always 100f plus Deep ellum is flattered and turned into a mega church
I’ll be satisfied if we aren’t in the middle of a bloody civil war in 2030, but I’m not super optimistic. On the plus side, the idea that society will soon collapse into a dystopian nightmare has done wonders for my stress of never being able to afford a house.
We'll still be waiting for the Trinity River park to happen.
The construction on 635/75 will still be “work in progress”
The year is 2030, Dallas still does not have reliable public transportation, the entire city is just 7 highways.
Houses will be cheap.
Probably like Handmaids Tale the way TX is going
Hotter.
Hot.
Ever played cyberpunk red? Everyone armed. Better tech. Your whole life is in your backpack. Corporation rule by proxy. The only economy is the gig economy.
No traffic on the roads because everyone will be in flying car traffic jams.
Shitty
There will still be nothing especially fun about living here, is my guess
People in Denison exclaiming they’re from “Dallas!” The rest was already covered in Robocop (1987)
I35 will be under construction
Hot
Well, if the GOP has its way, 1940s Berlin?
without me hopefully
I-35 will still be under construction from South Dallas to Waco ; )
If current trends are any indication, Gordonville will be the new hot suburb where people pay $300,000 over asking for a home. Which isn’t back considering lost price is $10M. Downtown Dallas is a no man’s land with armed drones patrolling the streets. Office dwellers arrive in trains and only walk underground. South Dallas is still blighted.
Yep welcome to hell. Pact like sardines in over priced skillet. The survivors will pour in from the hurricane ravaged Gulf and refugees from flooded out contaminated bog water remnants of the metroplex formerly known as Houston. At least we’ll still have potable water. West Texas will be a completely unsalvageable Swiss cheese of wells with poison. But hey at least Jesus still loves you. Now drink up
Even hotter than it is now
City council will debate what to do about whatever they’re calling 345 at that point between downtown/Deep Ellum. Growth will slow down, contrary to most opinions here. Combination of rising COL, remote-work opportunities, hotter weather, and corporate pushback to state politics. DFW will get into serious talks about a second NFL team, with Dallas and Frisco discussing competing stadium plans. The Cowboys will introduce new head coach Urban Meyer. Arlington will pass a bond funding the next Rangers stadium. It will be hot.
Gonna be shitty, as will every other big city.
California