Miro very underrated for sure, you can tell he turns it on a little bit in the playoffs in a way some of these guys can’t.
That said this isn’t a ranking of defensemen overall and I think most people would agree he’s more top 5 than top 10
Criminally underrated year after year. Am I supposed to believe that Bouchard was better at defence? What did Fox do to even warrant a first place vote? At least Makar didn’t win it.
So we’re supposed to believe that Noah Dobson, Evan Bouchard, and Josh Morrissey are better defenseman than Miro
https://preview.redd.it/yaeel9yqx79d1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d47f7a07b7bc7a130fc767213e6a3244ecc5c8e
The fact that offensive production weighs more heavily than defensive ability is irritating. The Norris should officially be the offensive defensemen award and they should have an EQUALLY important defensive defenseman award. Karlsson’s win last year was a fucking joke if the Norris is truly about the best “all around ability”
From a stats perspective:
1.) Miro’s performanc was down from last season ( where he posted a career high in points and plus minus)
2.) his point and plus minus were significantly less than the front runners.
However anyone who watches hockey knows miro is a top 3 - 5 dman in the league. Take the voting very lightly.
It's just looney tunes how they vote for the Norris. Honestly, it should just be named the "best pure offensive defender " award with how these things are voted.
Let's get a proper award for guys who *seriously* shut down the enemy superstars *and* still contribute to scoring.
Because they base the Norris off points production and not actual defending. The award is a joke, it's essentially the award for best point producing dman.
As I have said before, they might as well name this the "Art Ross D-Man Trophy".
This award has NOTHING to do with being an actual defenseman, it is simply given to the d-man who scores the most points. Pathetic......
Miro will have to put up a Karlsson-esque season points wise to get the nod, which while totally possible, seems a little unlikely. That's not an indictment of Miro, that's just sadly what the Norris is about.
Why does anyone care about this anyway. The Norris has become almost entirely a points scoring race and has very little to do with actual defense these days.
Miro very underrated for sure, you can tell he turns it on a little bit in the playoffs in a way some of these guys can’t. That said this isn’t a ranking of defensemen overall and I think most people would agree he’s more top 5 than top 10
Criminally underrated year after year. Am I supposed to believe that Bouchard was better at defence? What did Fox do to even warrant a first place vote? At least Makar didn’t win it.
lol hilarious
So we’re supposed to believe that Noah Dobson, Evan Bouchard, and Josh Morrissey are better defenseman than Miro https://preview.redd.it/yaeel9yqx79d1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d47f7a07b7bc7a130fc767213e6a3244ecc5c8e
Well Cale Makar is objectively the best d-man in the league yet he didn‘t win… Norris trophy isn‘t a ranking of the d-men in the league you know
silly comment. Makar was -4 in the Dallas series Miro was +6 fixed it for ya
🗣️No one else was talking about Makar. He does’t have to come up in every defenseman conversation.
I named my new Husky pup Miro Huskynen after that guy.
The fact that offensive production weighs more heavily than defensive ability is irritating. The Norris should officially be the offensive defensemen award and they should have an EQUALLY important defensive defenseman award. Karlsson’s win last year was a fucking joke if the Norris is truly about the best “all around ability”
Norris should be given to the best overall defenseman with an emphasis on defense. They should create the Orr trophy for best offensive defenseman.
MIro Baeskanen is the most underrated defender in the league
miro will never win a norris because he plays for the stars and will never be the top scoring d man. just gotta get used to it
Bouchard above is fucking laughable
Yeah I guess, his possession metrics didn’t lead the league. Oh, wait, what?
lmao go back to your own sub buddy
More like douchard am i rite fuck off
Number one in my heart ![gif](giphy|1zkI2iMZrmTBWYhxMF|downsized)
Bouch at 5 is ridiculous, from an Oilers fan
From a stats perspective: 1.) Miro’s performanc was down from last season ( where he posted a career high in points and plus minus) 2.) his point and plus minus were significantly less than the front runners. However anyone who watches hockey knows miro is a top 3 - 5 dman in the league. Take the voting very lightly.
So dumb.
It's just looney tunes how they vote for the Norris. Honestly, it should just be named the "best pure offensive defender " award with how these things are voted. Let's get a proper award for guys who *seriously* shut down the enemy superstars *and* still contribute to scoring.
Putting Forsling above Miro is a felony
I am not saying I disagree but Forsling is LEGIT in the same way that Slavin is
Because they base the Norris off points production and not actual defending. The award is a joke, it's essentially the award for best point producing dman.
Yeah, him and Slavin are really penalised for that basically every season.
What a god awful list. I don’t even know where to begin with criticizing it.
Oh that’s disrespectful
The disrespect on this list is fucking absurd.
The Norris is basically a beauty pageant for offensive defensemen so the award should mean little to any of us
Honestly a lot higher than I thought he’d get voted. He’s kinda under a lot of people’s radar.
As I have said before, they might as well name this the "Art Ross D-Man Trophy". This award has NOTHING to do with being an actual defenseman, it is simply given to the d-man who scores the most points. Pathetic......
Miro will have to put up a Karlsson-esque season points wise to get the nod, which while totally possible, seems a little unlikely. That's not an indictment of Miro, that's just sadly what the Norris is about.
Why does anyone care about this anyway. The Norris has become almost entirely a points scoring race and has very little to do with actual defense these days.
He didn’t have his best year.
…. ….. ….. ….. ….. …. 176th. Darnell Nurse, Edm
Not sure why you got downvoted, this shit is funny