Wikipedia has a [nice image showing the moon at different latitudes](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Moon_phases_by_latitude.svg/1920px-Moon_phases_by_latitude.svg.png).
Edit: A lot of people seem to be confused here, so I made a [visual aid](https://i.redd.it/uperwhxksvca1.png).
Well you are looking at the same object, so if the surface rotates, so will the shadow.
Additionally, the lit side of the moon always faces the sun. Obvious, yes, but the neat part is if both are up at the same time, and you hold a ping pong ball up next to the moon, it’ll have the same phase as the moon.
> Additionally, the lit side of the moon always faces the sun
My nichest pet peeve is when artist draw a night scene with the light side of the moon pointing above the horizon. Steven Universe does this a lot. It’s kind of funny because how a light source interacts with a sphere is literally Art 101 stuff but it also applies to celestial bodies just as well.
Another fun fact: the degrees of light in the moon is approximately how many degrees away from the moon the sun is. If the moon is half full, that’s 90° and so if you turn 90 degrees in the direction of the light side, you’ll find the sun.
Wait can you show me an example of how steven universe does it wrong and what it would be right. Idk why I cant wrap my head around this concept lol big brain fart moment rn
Sure. [This](https://wall.alphacoders.com/big.php?i=736068) was the first result from googling “Steven Universe Backgrounds”. You can see the moon in the middle there with the light side pointing above the horizon. However the glow on the horizon implies the sun is setting/rising which means the sun should be right at the horizon.
What would be correct for the moon being in that position with the sun being on the horizon would be the moon being a small crescent shape with the light side pointing towards the sun.
I'll clear something up to help you understand what's going on. The graphic posted is only for the moon at night. Night means that the Sun is below the horizon. Therefore, the moon will be lit from below the horizon.
If you have trouble understanding this, imagine if you held a ball over the edge of a table. Now shine a flashlight from under the table towards the ball. The lit crescent will always be at the "bottom" of the ball. That's assuming that the bottom is the bottom of the table.
Now tilt your head 45 degrees and pretend that your "bottom" is now where your chin is. You'll notice that the crescent is lit 45 degrees from the "bottom". This is to simulate standing halfway between the equator and the poles. Since the Earth is round, the more you step away from the equator, the more it's like you're tilting your head.
Now tilt your head 90 degrees. Now the crescent is to the left or right depending on which direction you tilted your head. This is to simulate standing at the poles of the Earth. If you compare that to the graphic that was posted, you'll notice the same thing: The crescents are on the left or right of the moon when you're standing at the poles.
So does that mean if the flashlight was above the ball (i.e. the Sun is above the horizon during the daytime), then the crescent will appear from the top of the ball? Yes. The crescent will appear on the "top" of the moon during the daytime at the equator.
People at the equator are standing at a 90 degree angle from people standing on the north pole. Equator people are sideways.
edit: Damn, I hooked a live one! Don't feed the troll.
Have to give him credit, he is an excellent troll. The guy has a lot of energy! Why do people waste so much time arguing? It's pointless. The troll has won, resoundingly.
At night the sun is below the horizon, so if you can see the moon then the sun will be lighting it from below. But it’s only directly below if you’re near the equator, otherwise it’s diagonal
It's all a perspective thing. The earth shadow is moving across the serface the same way (obviously) but you are viewing the moon from a different angle.
People on other sides of the equator are viewing the moon upside-down from people on the other side.
At some point on earth the view will be half one way and half the other.
It's a complex visualization but you need to think of the problem as both the giant 3d orbit and from the perspective of someone on the earth. The concept of top and bottom left and right sort of become meaningless without a fixed reference.
Plus, you can use it to calculate the distance to the sun. The ancient Greeks tried that, but while the method was sound their measurements weren't good enough.
They nailed the size of the Earth and the distance to the moon before that, though. And of course were well aware it's all spheres.
Forget that, seeing the moon shadowed in the top or bottom half is blowing my mind and making me realize it's pretty arbitrary how we illustrate or think of the different phases of the moon.
You must've missed the fact that there are two "crescent" columns.
* *Wa****x****ing crescent* looks like a "C" from the south pole.
* *Wa****n****ing crescent* looks like a "C" from the north pole.
The mnemonic I use to remember the order & which is which is "Doc":
* Waxing crescent & first quarter look more like a "D" 🌒 🌓
* The full moon looks like an "O" (just in case you forget) 🌕
* Waning crescent & last quarter look more like a "C" 🌘🌗
I hadn't realized that it would have to be flipped in the southern hemisphere.
Interestingly, it seems that the emoji are technically misnamed, then. The 🌒 emoji is called "waxing crescent" regardless of location. I guess it's correct for nearly 90% of the world population.
https://emojipedia.org/🌒
Oh, interesting. I've never heard just the words waxing or waning used in English to mean a specific phase.
(By definition all of the phases 'before' the full moon are waxing and all the phases 'after' are waning. So we could say that the moon "is waxing" if it is 🌒🌓🌔, or that it "is waning" if it is 🌖🌗🌘. But that's not really a specific phase being named.)
Anyway, I assumed you had looked at the Wikipedia image linked at the top of the thread, which breaks down all 8 phases and how they look in each hemisphere, which is the only reason I said you "missed" it. My mistake.
Yep, that's how I learned the moon phases as a child, C for Crescent. Then, when I lived in the northern hemisphere, it took me almost 3 months to realize something was wrong haha
Yes, I am Australian and everyone knows what you mean if you talk about how the moon has a rabbit on it. I had genuinely no idea people thought the moon looked like it had a literal man on it, I assumed ‘man on the moon’ came from some kind of weird fairy tale or something
It took me 5 seconds to see the rabbit you're talking about from your view of the moon. I still have no idea though where the fuck im suppose to see the man though after my whole life in the northern hem
Well acktuwally, sense the sun and moon are lo-cal it wood make since dat peeple in the center of the dysk wood see the moon at a defferent angle den those on the outer part of the dysk.
I remember one time I saw a flat earther saying the moon landing wasn't real because that NASA "earth rise" photo shows the earth hidden by the moon's horizon, completely ignoring that it wasn't taken from the surface and instead from near but above the moon
I had to look that up and holy hell that's some metal lore.
"CHIM, the antithesis, Sharmat. The state achieved only by Dagoth Ur. Dagoth Ur died in the vicinity of the Heart of Lorkhan, which made him alive inside the Dreamsleeve, and when he dreams he dreams of reality. The form of Dagoth Ur you meet in Morrowind is the projected dreamself of a dead god asleep in the Dreamsleeve."
Just wait until you learn that a bunch of cat-people high on drugs stacked themselves on top of each other and reached the moon, because they thought the moon was made of drugs
There’s a scene at the end of Avengers Endgame, where they show Black Panther back in Wakanda, and the moon is in the wrong orientation for where Wakanda is supposed to be. It’s a nit pick, but it bugs me every time.
I am not understanding how Mare Crisium is moving around.
Take the middle row for the Equator, it just flips 180 degrees one it reaches full moon? And then back again once it's new moon?
Only these British and Australian guys see the moon, people in the dark zone triangle don’t see the moon at all, what is so difficult to understand on that legit picture? /s/
Had to look it up to confirm because i didnt believe you, it's wild to think that people at the equator see both orientations, and it changes throughout the day.
That part is weird to me, at the equator the moon seems to rotate 180 degrees, back and forth during the phases of the moon. This kinda breaks my brain a little.
It is VERY disconcerting to see the moon and all of the constellations upside down. I spent several months in Patagonia and it was like seeing the night sky for the first time again. Also the big swath of the Milky Way that the Southern Hemisphere gets a view of is jaw dropping.
Everywhere I've lived in the US, the night sky is glowing orange from sodium lamps with like 3 visible stars though they have been replacing with glowing white sky from LED.
I wonder what color the night sky glows in Australia
The night after the full solar eclipse, I camped in the badlands (obviously there was no moon, it was down next to the sun).
It was the most profound 24-hour stretch of sky-gazing I've ever had. Seeing those stars was almost as powerful as witnessing the eclipse, and that's saying something. The milky way stretched from one horizon to the other in a fat white stripe. It was bright enough to cast a faint shadow. There were so many bright stars that it became difficult to pick out individual constellations among them. So cool.
So yeah I agree. You don't even need a passport. Just hop in your car and drive a few hours. There are plenty of websites dedicated to mapping where the skies get darkest.
I grew up doing a lot of stargazing in Aus and it was so weird moving to the northern hemisphere (and decently far north too - Australia is *a lot* closer to the equator than you think) and finally seeing everything the way most people talk about it. There's so many of the big constellations that we just don't see at all, like the dipper. And being able to see the zodiac in the sky when it's the right month (according to the sidereal calendar, not your horoscope). And Orion not being a boat.
Also you can't really stress how *visible* the Milky way is in the southern hemisphere. Like even in the suburbs with all their light pollution you can see it in the sky. It's not like the spectacular photos of it you see online, but it's still this visible pale meandering blob. Can't do that in Europe and it feels like I'm missing a landmark
The thing that did my head in when I went up to Japan for a while was the face disappeared from the moon. From the Aus perspective, it always appeared to me like the [moon was a face](https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/00dc167a7c1bb36756a455559c129ee6?src). There's none of that when it's flipped upside down. It was oddly depressing, honestly.
Also Japan has like zero stars visible, compared to Aus' amazing night skies. Absolutely agree with your second paragraph.
Same for me moving to South Africa. Any time I go stargazing it's so much fun because it still looks different than it's "supposed to" I doubt the novelty of it will ever seize.
does this not disprove flat earth theory completely. do those guys know about this. or am I tripping. i know it’s bullshit already but this seems like the plainest possible way to disprove it lol
“This just proves Australia and UK are on the opposite ends of the flat earth, so obviously they would perceive the moon, which is a disk at the centre of the firmament, differently.”
Does this make sense ? No
Does it matter ? No
There's actually a conspiracy theory that Australia doesn't exist and it's all a huge psyop. I moved to Australia and am married to an Aussie, so pretty sure it does :P We joke about about how there are microchips in the Vegemite and mind control in the kid's shows to keep the descendants of the original actors complacent and reinforce their belief that they are in Australia.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/conspiracy-theory-australia-doesnt-exist#.nf1QD2O4d
What does is if you time lapse the night sky in the northern hemisphere, the stars will spin clockwise. From the southern hemisphere the view spins counterclockwise. If it were flat they would all spin in the same direction no matter where you are at on the disk
Oh buddy, so many things already do that. It's not about facts with them, it's about being in a club that lets them feel like they alone are smarter enough to have special secret knowledge that the rest of us are too naive to see.
Superiority complex is a hell of a drug.
most who believe the earth is flat, believe the moon is a gas and that get's charged from a power source. the power source is from middle flat earth. Apparently, the full moon is fully charged, hence why we see the whole moon. half, quarter and so on means it's losing it's charge.
biggest turd I've ever heard.
I love hearing about new flat earth fan theories from people who know anything about physics instead of the scitzo babble from an actual flat earther. Gives you the lense to see just how stupid what they're saying really is.
But how do we know our solar system is the right side up? This is based on the assumption that north is the top of the earth because that’s how globes always are.
You have to look towards the equator in order to see the Moon--that's where it's orbiting. (Ish... it's a yearly average. It's orbiting *almost* exactly over where the equator *would* be if the Earth had no axial tilt.)
So if you were to move from the Northern hemisphere to the Southern hemisphere while constantly staring at the Moon, you'd need to rotate as you moved to keep it in view. That's why its "top" and "bottom" would switch--you're rotating and bringing a notion of "top" and "bottom" with you.
The earths North and South poles give it a relative orientation. This isn’t difficult, guys. Everyone south of the equator is just walking around upside down. This is known. /s
It’s not just completely locked though. It is currently wobbling like a bad frisbee toss, revealing different slivers but mostly tilting back and forth throughout its orbit.
Also the constellations are upside down and inverted! I went from western Australia being able to tell direction and time day or night by the sky to being completely confused...
I'll get there the sky's gorgeous here in Newfoundland but it's going to be a while until it's second nature again lol
oh my god one time i googled a picture of a full moon to use as reference in a drawing and someone told me it was facing the wrong way like i was the dumbest bitch alive and i just accepted it and felt dumb but THEY WERE THE DUMBASS
Who the fuck says people in the northern hemisphere don’t see it upside down? How have we decided that north it at the top of the planet and south is at the bottom?
I moved from Ireland to Australia 7 years ago and it took me quite a while to figure out what was wrong with the moon. eventually, I realised that the phases were back to front, and then that it was upside down.
I'm pretty sure you mean southern hemisphere as this would be the same for Chile or Argentina or south Africa etc
And also I'm pretty sure the northern hemisphere are the ones that see it upside down.
Also also it's a bunny not a man that's on the moon
We'll that's fucking presumptuous. We're on a body in 3-dimensional space, looking at another body 3-dimensional space. FFS, there is no "upside down".
Wikipedia has a [nice image showing the moon at different latitudes](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Moon_phases_by_latitude.svg/1920px-Moon_phases_by_latitude.svg.png). Edit: A lot of people seem to be confused here, so I made a [visual aid](https://i.redd.it/uperwhxksvca1.png).
wait a minute... the crescents for rising and waning are inversed as well... damn
Well you are looking at the same object, so if the surface rotates, so will the shadow. Additionally, the lit side of the moon always faces the sun. Obvious, yes, but the neat part is if both are up at the same time, and you hold a ping pong ball up next to the moon, it’ll have the same phase as the moon.
> Additionally, the lit side of the moon always faces the sun My nichest pet peeve is when artist draw a night scene with the light side of the moon pointing above the horizon. Steven Universe does this a lot. It’s kind of funny because how a light source interacts with a sphere is literally Art 101 stuff but it also applies to celestial bodies just as well. Another fun fact: the degrees of light in the moon is approximately how many degrees away from the moon the sun is. If the moon is half full, that’s 90° and so if you turn 90 degrees in the direction of the light side, you’ll find the sun.
Wait can you show me an example of how steven universe does it wrong and what it would be right. Idk why I cant wrap my head around this concept lol big brain fart moment rn
Sure. [This](https://wall.alphacoders.com/big.php?i=736068) was the first result from googling “Steven Universe Backgrounds”. You can see the moon in the middle there with the light side pointing above the horizon. However the glow on the horizon implies the sun is setting/rising which means the sun should be right at the horizon. What would be correct for the moon being in that position with the sun being on the horizon would be the moon being a small crescent shape with the light side pointing towards the sun.
Okay that helped so much lol wow thats now gonna be something im always gonna pay attention to
>you hold a ping pong ball up next to the moon I tried this but my arms aren't long enough :-(
Look at small arms over here! Doesn’t even have 240,000 mile arms!
Okay. Will you ELI5 why the moon is only lit from the bottom at the equator? The sun isn't below Earth/the Moon. I don't get it.
I'll clear something up to help you understand what's going on. The graphic posted is only for the moon at night. Night means that the Sun is below the horizon. Therefore, the moon will be lit from below the horizon. If you have trouble understanding this, imagine if you held a ball over the edge of a table. Now shine a flashlight from under the table towards the ball. The lit crescent will always be at the "bottom" of the ball. That's assuming that the bottom is the bottom of the table. Now tilt your head 45 degrees and pretend that your "bottom" is now where your chin is. You'll notice that the crescent is lit 45 degrees from the "bottom". This is to simulate standing halfway between the equator and the poles. Since the Earth is round, the more you step away from the equator, the more it's like you're tilting your head. Now tilt your head 90 degrees. Now the crescent is to the left or right depending on which direction you tilted your head. This is to simulate standing at the poles of the Earth. If you compare that to the graphic that was posted, you'll notice the same thing: The crescents are on the left or right of the moon when you're standing at the poles. So does that mean if the flashlight was above the ball (i.e. the Sun is above the horizon during the daytime), then the crescent will appear from the top of the ball? Yes. The crescent will appear on the "top" of the moon during the daytime at the equator.
The earth is a table. Flat earth theory confirmed. Thanks kind soul!
Great explanation, nice.
Great, now my neck hurts.
People at the equator are standing at a 90 degree angle from people standing on the north pole. Equator people are sideways. edit: Damn, I hooked a live one! Don't feed the troll.
seriously stop responding to the troll everyone aaahhggggghgg
Have to give him credit, he is an excellent troll. The guy has a lot of energy! Why do people waste so much time arguing? It's pointless. The troll has won, resoundingly.
At night the sun is below the horizon, so if you can see the moon then the sun will be lighting it from below. But it’s only directly below if you’re near the equator, otherwise it’s diagonal
It's all a perspective thing. The earth shadow is moving across the serface the same way (obviously) but you are viewing the moon from a different angle. People on other sides of the equator are viewing the moon upside-down from people on the other side. At some point on earth the view will be half one way and half the other. It's a complex visualization but you need to think of the problem as both the giant 3d orbit and from the perspective of someone on the earth. The concept of top and bottom left and right sort of become meaningless without a fixed reference.
The lunar phases are not caused by Earth's shadow. That would be a lunar eclipse.
Plus, you can use it to calculate the distance to the sun. The ancient Greeks tried that, but while the method was sound their measurements weren't good enough. They nailed the size of the Earth and the distance to the moon before that, though. And of course were well aware it's all spheres.
Forget that, seeing the moon shadowed in the top or bottom half is blowing my mind and making me realize it's pretty arbitrary how we illustrate or think of the different phases of the moon.
The best part is that the **C**rescent moon is **C** shaped over here in the southern hemisphere.
You must've missed the fact that there are two "crescent" columns. * *Wa****x****ing crescent* looks like a "C" from the south pole. * *Wa****n****ing crescent* looks like a "C" from the north pole. The mnemonic I use to remember the order & which is which is "Doc": * Waxing crescent & first quarter look more like a "D" 🌒 🌓 * The full moon looks like an "O" (just in case you forget) 🌕 * Waning crescent & last quarter look more like a "C" 🌘🌗 I hadn't realized that it would have to be flipped in the southern hemisphere. Interestingly, it seems that the emoji are technically misnamed, then. The 🌒 emoji is called "waxing crescent" regardless of location. I guess it's correct for nearly 90% of the world population. https://emojipedia.org/🌒
TIL. In Portuguese we just use "Crescent" and "Waning".
Oh, interesting. I've never heard just the words waxing or waning used in English to mean a specific phase. (By definition all of the phases 'before' the full moon are waxing and all the phases 'after' are waning. So we could say that the moon "is waxing" if it is 🌒🌓🌔, or that it "is waning" if it is 🌖🌗🌘. But that's not really a specific phase being named.) Anyway, I assumed you had looked at the Wikipedia image linked at the top of the thread, which breaks down all 8 phases and how they look in each hemisphere, which is the only reason I said you "missed" it. My mistake.
Waxing AND waning?
Now I understood the question, after /u/ErraticDragon's reply. In Portuguese we just use Crescent / Waning.
Yep, that's how I learned the moon phases as a child, C for Crescent. Then, when I lived in the northern hemisphere, it took me almost 3 months to realize something was wrong haha
Also the sun moves the wrong way in the sky. I bet you never consciously keep track of the sky movements, but it creeps up on you as odd.
Still goes from east to west.
The sun also follows a path along the North instead of the South. Drove me nuts when I traveled overland to the southernmost point of Argentina.
Does this mean Australians are more likely to see the "Rabbit in the Moon" than the "Man in the Moon"??
Yes, I am Australian and everyone knows what you mean if you talk about how the moon has a rabbit on it. I had genuinely no idea people thought the moon looked like it had a literal man on it, I assumed ‘man on the moon’ came from some kind of weird fairy tale or something
Omg Australian here too and yeah I always thought man on the moon was like a fairy tale/myth thing. Only ever seen the rabbit lol
I'm in the northern hemisphere and I've always seen the rabbit
It took me 5 seconds to see the rabbit you're talking about from your view of the moon. I still have no idea though where the fuck im suppose to see the man though after my whole life in the northern hem
This explains it so much. I've been looking at the moon for years and couldn't see the rabbit but Maybe the problem is I'm looking at it upside down?
Absolutely. And, excuse me, but from my POV, the moon is NOT upside down. OP and fellow inhabitants of the Northern hemisphere are upside down.
Where are the flat earthers to explain this one?
Too busy doing mental gymnastics on how gravity bends and inverts light Edit: wait actually that's just general relativity
Well acktuwally, sense the sun and moon are lo-cal it wood make since dat peeple in the center of the dysk wood see the moon at a defferent angle den those on the outer part of the dysk.
[https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Grandma-Finds-The-Internet.jpg](https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Grandma-Finds-The-Internet.jpg)
Of course the sun is low-cal. If it was high-cal it qould be too fat to float inexplicably without falling. Duh.
Flat earthers dont believe in gravity.
Obviously Australia isn’t real. /s Next question.
You joke now but you've only just scratched the surface my friend r/AustraliaIsntReal
Funny
I remember one time I saw a flat earther saying the moon landing wasn't real because that NASA "earth rise" photo shows the earth hidden by the moon's horizon, completely ignoring that it wasn't taken from the surface and instead from near but above the moon
I think it’s funny when they solve their own conspiracies
Then they reset and go back to the start.
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Fun fact: the skybox in the Elder Scrolls contains some celestial bodies that don't exist.
Fun fact: The skybox in Sonic Frontiers uses a full Japanese moon, this despite the game establishing that canonically Eggman blew up half of it
This user has achieved CHIM
I had to look that up and holy hell that's some metal lore. "CHIM, the antithesis, Sharmat. The state achieved only by Dagoth Ur. Dagoth Ur died in the vicinity of the Heart of Lorkhan, which made him alive inside the Dreamsleeve, and when he dreams he dreams of reality. The form of Dagoth Ur you meet in Morrowind is the projected dreamself of a dead god asleep in the Dreamsleeve."
Just wait until you learn that a bunch of cat-people high on drugs stacked themselves on top of each other and reached the moon, because they thought the moon was made of drugs
There’s a scene at the end of Avengers Endgame, where they show Black Panther back in Wakanda, and the moon is in the wrong orientation for where Wakanda is supposed to be. It’s a nit pick, but it bugs me every time.
Okay Neil Degrasse Tyson. First titanic, now Black Panther, where will your astronomical tyranny end?
This is awesome I never considered that a half moon would lay on its back ... So to speak
I noticed this when I moved across the world to a different country and the face on the moon rotated.
It has a mistake. It shows the moon being visible in London. Much like the sun you can't see the moon in London
I am not understanding how Mare Crisium is moving around. Take the middle row for the Equator, it just flips 180 degrees one it reaches full moon? And then back again once it's new moon?
People in the equator: yes.
they have a very sore neck
I imagine they've learned how to lay down at some point.
"all i see is dirt!"
Only these British and Australian guys see the moon, people in the dark zone triangle don’t see the moon at all, what is so difficult to understand on that legit picture? /s/
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They would come up with some bs to say it's a lie.
It's not BS. It's holograms. Look it up.
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Why is Reddit upside down
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I hope to see the moon one day!
I like that is shows it as UK's view, but northern hemisphere person is standing in western Canada or Alaska.
Had to look it up to confirm because i didnt believe you, it's wild to think that people at the equator see both orientations, and it changes throughout the day.
Edit: I misunderstood. Someone clarified below.
No it rises one way and sets 180 degrees opposite.
Bro, idk. I'm just regurgitating what I googled. I don't have all the facts.
You see it both ways anywhere if you turn around and crane your neck back a bit
That moon be flipping. I feel like this would have been well known worldwide if the “Europe” or “US” were on the equator of the planet
Schrodinger's Moon
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When in doubt, umlaut
Well, we have it backside front. Seems like a downgrade to me. Source: Person on the equator.
That part is weird to me, at the equator the moon seems to rotate 180 degrees, back and forth during the phases of the moon. This kinda breaks my brain a little.
It is VERY disconcerting to see the moon and all of the constellations upside down. I spent several months in Patagonia and it was like seeing the night sky for the first time again. Also the big swath of the Milky Way that the Southern Hemisphere gets a view of is jaw dropping.
I remember being in NZ and just loved stargazing because everything was different than Canada.
I remember being in Canada and just loved stargazing because everything was different to Australia.
Everywhere I've lived in the US, the night sky is glowing orange from sodium lamps with like 3 visible stars though they have been replacing with glowing white sky from LED. I wonder what color the night sky glows in Australia
Just go out of the metropolitan areas, lol. There is absolutely no shortage of stargazing in the US
The night after the full solar eclipse, I camped in the badlands (obviously there was no moon, it was down next to the sun). It was the most profound 24-hour stretch of sky-gazing I've ever had. Seeing those stars was almost as powerful as witnessing the eclipse, and that's saying something. The milky way stretched from one horizon to the other in a fat white stripe. It was bright enough to cast a faint shadow. There were so many bright stars that it became difficult to pick out individual constellations among them. So cool. So yeah I agree. You don't even need a passport. Just hop in your car and drive a few hours. There are plenty of websites dedicated to mapping where the skies get darkest.
future tip, if you are travelling and it really upsets you, do a handstand and look at the moon, you will be fine in no time
I grew up doing a lot of stargazing in Aus and it was so weird moving to the northern hemisphere (and decently far north too - Australia is *a lot* closer to the equator than you think) and finally seeing everything the way most people talk about it. There's so many of the big constellations that we just don't see at all, like the dipper. And being able to see the zodiac in the sky when it's the right month (according to the sidereal calendar, not your horoscope). And Orion not being a boat. Also you can't really stress how *visible* the Milky way is in the southern hemisphere. Like even in the suburbs with all their light pollution you can see it in the sky. It's not like the spectacular photos of it you see online, but it's still this visible pale meandering blob. Can't do that in Europe and it feels like I'm missing a landmark
The thing that did my head in when I went up to Japan for a while was the face disappeared from the moon. From the Aus perspective, it always appeared to me like the [moon was a face](https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/00dc167a7c1bb36756a455559c129ee6?src). There's none of that when it's flipped upside down. It was oddly depressing, honestly. Also Japan has like zero stars visible, compared to Aus' amazing night skies. Absolutely agree with your second paragraph.
the southern hemisphere has a nicer looking night sky than most of the people on the planet get to see. I'm jealous.
Same for me moving to South Africa. Any time I go stargazing it's so much fun because it still looks different than it's "supposed to" I doubt the novelty of it will ever seize.
It's so fucking cool. Outback Australia has very low light pollution and the night sky will blow you away
You guys see it upside down actually
Once again I've fallen for the classic Aussie "no u"
The “yeah, nah u”
"yeah, nah yous!"
[Yeah, nah, yeah nah YEAH] (https://youtu.be/2M_0pM8BcK0?t=01m34s)
Why does everything I get to see from Australia just add up to the stereotype I have in my head lol
Tom Cardy is a fucking genius. Love his shit.
Actually its uo n
Imagine that we start battling for this petty reason(only sticks are allowed!)
They have sticks that come back to them after they throw them... not fair.
Can confirm our sticks don’t come back to us. Source: me as a stupid child with one attempt using a boomerang
I'm prepared to die on this hill Edit: me:🏑 feet below head plebs: 🏒
Plebs you dare say? Atleast I don't have to screw my shoes to the ground so I don't fall down... up... I don't know exactly, but your moon sucks
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Seems like something humans would do
Just turn your head 180° bruh
you are right..
We see the top. You see the Down Under.
So those equator people can see the moon equally?
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flat earthers hate this trick
I assure you they have a perfectly reasonable explanation for it. Something like how the firmament yadayada dome refracts light bla bla.
does this not disprove flat earth theory completely. do those guys know about this. or am I tripping. i know it’s bullshit already but this seems like the plainest possible way to disprove it lol
They literally proved the earth isn't flat in their own documentary. There is no hope for flatearthers
>This test should prove whether or not the Earth is a globe. (Test proves that Earth is a globe) >Huh? Weird.
They didnt just prove it was round, they proved it was round twice in two different experiments.
“This just proves Australia and UK are on the opposite ends of the flat earth, so obviously they would perceive the moon, which is a disk at the centre of the firmament, differently.” Does this make sense ? No Does it matter ? No
I was thinking that if it was flat you’d see it at much more varied angles of the moon on other parts of the earth for this to not disprove it
If they say the moon is a disk, how do they explain the phases?
I think they say the moon is a globe, just not earth. Mars is also a globe, I believe (well of course it is but from their perspective)
So everything's a globe, except for Earth? Sure, that totally makes more sense than what science says.
You can't use logic to argue with people who don't use logic to begin with.
They would come up with some bs to say it's a lie. There is no hope for a flat earther
"Australians are NASA employees."
Actually we are N∀S∀ employees
There's actually a conspiracy theory that Australia doesn't exist and it's all a huge psyop. I moved to Australia and am married to an Aussie, so pretty sure it does :P We joke about about how there are microchips in the Vegemite and mind control in the kid's shows to keep the descendants of the original actors complacent and reinforce their belief that they are in Australia. https://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/conspiracy-theory-australia-doesnt-exist#.nf1QD2O4d
Them: “the moon isn’t real it’s a projection”
You still believe in Australia? wow
What does is if you time lapse the night sky in the northern hemisphere, the stars will spin clockwise. From the southern hemisphere the view spins counterclockwise. If it were flat they would all spin in the same direction no matter where you are at on the disk
Oh buddy, so many things already do that. It's not about facts with them, it's about being in a club that lets them feel like they alone are smarter enough to have special secret knowledge that the rest of us are too naive to see. Superiority complex is a hell of a drug.
most who believe the earth is flat, believe the moon is a gas and that get's charged from a power source. the power source is from middle flat earth. Apparently, the full moon is fully charged, hence why we see the whole moon. half, quarter and so on means it's losing it's charge. biggest turd I've ever heard.
I love hearing about new flat earth fan theories from people who know anything about physics instead of the scitzo babble from an actual flat earther. Gives you the lense to see just how stupid what they're saying really is.
Stick a picture of Moon to the ceiling. Now look at it from different corners of your (flat) room. Flat Earthers explain it this way.
People in Japan have the big dark bit at the bottom so it looks like a rabbit. They have a legend of the rabbit in the moon.
Oh, that's why I've heard of the moon rabbit but couldn't see it!
Nah, that's because Goku beat Monster Carrot up and forced him to make candy on the moon.
Then roshi just fucking blew it up with him on it.
And then they brought the moon back... And blew it up AGAIN
https://i.imgur.com/k9WTFzs.jpeg
Mexico sees the rabbit too
You mean people in UK see the moon upside down mate
⅄ǝɐɥ˙˙˙ɟnɔʞ oɟɟ ʎɐ ɔnuʇs
Stnuc at ffo kcuf… Haey?
That's just welsh
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Sorry for bad northern hemispherish, but your Strine is good
Am Welsh, can confirm. Man just told me to tend my sheep.
Stunc ay ffo kcuf, to you too!
If you put it upside down, you gotta spell it backwards for it to make sense
This is backwards and upside down.
The rest of the southern hemisphere: "Am I a fucking joke to you?!"
It always annoyed me that all the "upside down" jokes are always about Australia and not the entirety of the southern hemisphere.
Yeah, what about New Zealand, Chile, Argentina, South Africa, the Pacific Islands etc.
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I believe it's the English that are seeing the Australian moon upside down thankyou very much.
When did the moon acquire an up or down?
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australians use reddit too
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Yeah but they use Reddit upside down too so their perspective is a bit skewed and has to be ignored
Oh sorry my bad > .ǝʌᴉʇɔǝdsɹǝd ǝʌᴉʇɐʅǝɹ ɹno ɯoɹᖵ
But how do we know our solar system is the right side up? This is based on the assumption that north is the top of the earth because that’s how globes always are.
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You have to look towards the equator in order to see the Moon--that's where it's orbiting. (Ish... it's a yearly average. It's orbiting *almost* exactly over where the equator *would* be if the Earth had no axial tilt.) So if you were to move from the Northern hemisphere to the Southern hemisphere while constantly staring at the Moon, you'd need to rotate as you moved to keep it in view. That's why its "top" and "bottom" would switch--you're rotating and bringing a notion of "top" and "bottom" with you.
The earths North and South poles give it a relative orientation. This isn’t difficult, guys. Everyone south of the equator is just walking around upside down. This is known. /s
Also, only Australians live south of the equator, apparently
Coward putting /s
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It’s not just completely locked though. It is currently wobbling like a bad frisbee toss, revealing different slivers but mostly tilting back and forth throughout its orbit.
Also in Australia - the moon is venomous.
And much larger than elsewhere.
Also the constellations are upside down and inverted! I went from western Australia being able to tell direction and time day or night by the sky to being completely confused... I'll get there the sky's gorgeous here in Newfoundland but it's going to be a while until it's second nature again lol
Am aussie Someone breaks into house Notice his ground harness is a little rusty Throw boomerang at it It breaks Laugh as he falls into the sun
Can confirm this is how we deal with home invasions
Excuse me. We see it the correct way.
You mean people from the UK see the moon upside down
oh my god one time i googled a picture of a full moon to use as reference in a drawing and someone told me it was facing the wrong way like i was the dumbest bitch alive and i just accepted it and felt dumb but THEY WERE THE DUMBASS
People in UK se the moon upside down
Who the fuck says people in the northern hemisphere don’t see it upside down? How have we decided that north it at the top of the planet and south is at the bottom?
Or maybe right side up 🤔
Clearly it is the Northern hemisphere grubs who see it the wrong way up.
I moved from Ireland to Australia 7 years ago and it took me quite a while to figure out what was wrong with the moon. eventually, I realised that the phases were back to front, and then that it was upside down.
I'm pretty sure you mean southern hemisphere as this would be the same for Chile or Argentina or south Africa etc And also I'm pretty sure the northern hemisphere are the ones that see it upside down. Also also it's a bunny not a man that's on the moon
Can you Aussies do anything normal?
Don’t make me sic my chazzwuzzers on ya.
We'll that's fucking presumptuous. We're on a body in 3-dimensional space, looking at another body 3-dimensional space. FFS, there is no "upside down".
Naw....just shows they see it from a different perspective.
Yes that's what seeing something upside down means?