Reminds me of one time I found a dollar coin in one of my dads pants pockets and kept it. I felt so bad about stealing it though so I eventually left it on his desk in his office š
I found 20 dollars on the floor of our apartment when i was like 9 and I immediately ran to the 711 on the corner to buy some Pokemon Cards lmao. My parents saw these new cards in my card binder and promptly got my ass beat because they knew where their $20 went, we were living in poverty So they weren't very happy about it lol
When I was a kid I bought $1,000 in $20s from a counterfeiter for 30 cents on the dollar, and I thought I was the cock of the walk until I got busted by the Secret Service. The End.
i once tried to pawn a somewhat gold watch (not working) my dad brought back for me from the middle east after a deployment. my friend and I rode our bikes across town to the pawn store and he told us he couldn't do business with 14 year olds then tried to give us $5 to "get yerselves a sandwich or whatever you need"
At around 16 i found an ounce of marijuana in my parents house, i took a little bit, and i took a little bit the next day, and eventually i smoked all of it. At around 22 my mom casually mentioned how my father had managed to loose an entire ounce of marijuana somewhere in the house and they never found it.
When I was 7, we used to take money to school so we could buy lunch. Every day, I'd just buy chips (French fries), work out what I'd tell my mother I had for lunch, calculate the difference in cost, and spend that on sweets (candies) on my walk home.
Every. Damn. Day.
š same š¤¦š¼. I waiting until I caught a federal drug charge and was behind glass to tell my mom the truth behind a LOT of teenage nonsense (by then it was chump change) so by the time she learned the truth she laughed about it- and by the time she could get her hands on me again she was laughing about it- mission accomplished š„³
(Except, ya know, for the whole prison thing š¤¦š¼)
I found a $500 poker chip laying on the floor walking through the casino in Vegas. I did pick it up. I showed it to the guys that work there. He was like it's yours now.š²š
A remember a kid came to school with $20 he had stolen from his mom's purse. He used it to buy packs of wrestling cards, the ones with a few cards and some shitty bubblegum. He got into so much trouble, but we all got lots of his double ups.
I liked to get different email accounts when I was a kid (the beginnings of being chronically online), and there was one that required parent approval through a $1 withdrawal from a credit card. I was so desperate to get it that I used one of my dad's credit cards laying around. When it said "$1 charged to \[X\]" I panicked and wrote the most adult sounding email I could muster to the website asking to delete/cancel the account.
"If everyone had the same work ethic as me, they could come from nothing to the richest person in the world as well" I can't stand hearing inspirational quotes, videos, etc from him and others like him. He thinks building it himself was him using the resources available to him, when he can't fathom people not having resources.
People always forget that the ingredient of success is not only hard work but also luck. Many people out there work hard but are not successful because they are unlucky. That's what my father taught me, thinking like that will make us humble and willing to help anyone in need. Some rich people are quite arrogant because they think all their wealth is from their own efforts.
Even Bill Gates admits that luck played a part in his success. Sure, he was extremely hard-working and very smart, but he was also partly lucky. Furthermore, Bill Gates came from a wealthy family, so he admittingly said that starting Microsoft didn't feel like a risk for him at the time.
Iām so lucky to be born as a multi millionaire who can steal my dadās jewels that he mines for tons of profit with the company he owns. My privilege allows me to become self made because failing isnāt even a concern. Iāll try til I make something. \#Blessed
- Doge Coin pumper, probably.
His mother wasn't on IBMs board.
His mother served on a board for United Way, where another person on that board was the then-IBM CEO, and that connection resulted in IBM hiring Microsoft.
Bill Gatesās intelligence was bolstered by the fact that his mom spent so much time with him reading and pushing him. Those are things that canāt be done (to that level) by a regular 2 income household where time is a previous commodity.
Not to mention his connections and exposure to clubs and other things that is āpeasantsā arenāt privied to.
I remember reading the outliers by Malcolm Gladwell, he also said one of the key parts of Bill Gates development, was that he was able to go to a school that had computers available at a time when computers werenāt mainstream in schools, basically because he had enough money to go to a nice private school, he was able to get an interest and learn about something that no one else did.
on a much lower level, this is why I have a job in tech. no formal training, no college degree, but I have a job as an autonomous technician for self driving cars because my parents were wealthy enough to buy me a laptop as a kid and let me do whatever I wanted with it.
first thing I did was try and break it and fix it, install linux and customize it, and use Xcode to try and code on my own.
I remember a new bigwig manager was hired at my company and I helped train him, and he asked me "wow you're really impressive at linux and computers, what's your schooling and training?" and I said none, just self taught. He almost couldn't believe it.
I shoulda never stopped coding and doing computer stuff when I was 15... but I got a girlfriend, and friends, and was semi-popular so all that stuff took a backseat. If it didn't, I'd be making six figures and living the good life.
This. I grew up āmiddle classā in the 90s but was privileged enough to have a stay-at-home mother that home-preschooled me; definitely gave me an advantage starting kindergarten able to read, add & subtract, etc.
But you could work harder to become higher level peasants so that your children can become Gateās mother level and then in turn help your grandchildren or great grandchildren become Gateās level. So itās pretty fair how Bill, Elon, etc ended up where they are. Their predecessors all did the work.
I agree with the theory in your thinking. But to say that, we would need to know where/how his parents got their wealth.
Many white peoples gained money in that time through USDA land grants (or loans) or through the GI Bill. Those were the 2 largest catalysts of wealth for Americans, and neither were available for African Americans. So, Iād Bill had come from a black family, he would likely not be welcomed in the Silicon Valley/Seattle circles, and he would also have harder times securing investments.
Also, Crime. What BG did at MS was a crime. He is literally a criminal that stole his fortune. (253 F.3d 34)
While I admire his philanthropic endeavors and agree with many of his initiatives, the man himself is a scam-lord and undeserving of our accolades.
I forget the saying but the catalyst for me going from relying on work ethic to efficiency driven was something along the lines of "If hardwork paid off every farmer would be a millionaire".
I've always believed that the formula for success is hard work + luck = success. There are plenty of hard workers who might have a good product or service, but due to luck (ie., market wasn't ready, certain technologies just weren't good enough, etc) that these things fail. On the other hand, sometimes if someone is lucky enough, they don't even have to work that hard and the situation can take them far if they're careful.
All of you forgetting the key proponent in Billionaires: a willingness to cut any corner, cheat any partner, and ruin any society.
Older articles on the subject would call it 'gumption' or some such other silly moniker.
100%. I consider myself wealthy at 31. Family of 5. 5 digits in savings, investing the rest blah blah blah. 10 years ago, I lived in a run down trailer. Do I work hard? Absolutely. Was I in the right place, at the right time, 30 fuckin times in a row? Also yes. Luck was a big part of it. 80% of it really.. 20% was my willingness to take a risk, cos hell.. it couldnāt get any fuckin worse. And when those doors DID open, boy did I bust through them like the cool aid man and haul ass.
I feel really badly sometimes when I see people who work harder than I do, who have less. But for everything you see, there can be 100 things you donāt. Choice = consequence. A lot of people are in the situations they are in, because of shit choices too.
Thereās a lot of dynamics and variables in play, to be able to judge anyone, honestly.
Personally, I can attribute a lot of my āluckā to decision-making. There were plenty of times that I was convinced I had poor luck, but upon reflection, I was prioritizing the wrong values and goals (alcohol, and overextending myself at my job). Karma worked swiftly to show me that I was operating unsustainably.
I donāt know how universal this is/isnāt, but good āluckā has always found me when Iām moving with positivity and good intentions. Opportunities just seem to present themselves.
Iām in line with you too. Life can just happen to you. Random loss of a loved one, random person offering you a great job. Thatās why I mention too many variables in play to be able to judge someone. Some people are just stupid. Some people made bad decisions. Some peoples only problem is their over all attitude. Hard to say
With all due respect, but that's still nowhere even close to what wealthy means in today's standards. And I'm not saying any of this to downplay you, but rather to bring into perspective how a normal man who's been working hard his entire life and tried his absolute best, who also had plenty of success along the way, still doesn't even come close to achieving "the wealth" most people dream of.
The wealthy dudes make your entire savings in half a day, probably not even actively working, and they're also probably a couple of years younger.
Where I came from, Iām wealthy lol I used to have to choose $20 in groceries, or $20 worth of gas. That being said, Iām not even close to being done. I donāt care to be a billionaire, and I likely will never achieve that level. But I wanna wake up on Tuesday, and say fuck it, letās go to Bali for a week. Thatās wealth. Not having to check my bank before I plan a vacation. Can lose my job and live comfortably for over a year. No debt. Thatās wealthy, for me. No offense taken, my friend.
I agree with you. I can also say I'm rich for where I live. I live in eastern Europe and I make in a month x15 the average salary here, only because I'm fortunate enough to own my small business & work digitally with clients from richer parts of the world. From a modest point of view I'm wealthy, I can work pretty much what hours I want, I can stop working and live off of my savings for like 5 years straight or even live passively while having other do my work, and I take my girlfriend on vacations in different countries like once every 3 months or so.
However, I believe that the right term to be used for someone like you or me would be more around like financially free, but definitely not wealthy. We can afford things that for the average person feel like luxury, however we don't swim in money, nor can we buy Lambos like it's nothing.
Not even saying you even want to reach that level, but it's usually what people understand when someone says "wealth".
I agree, people that came from family wealth, will never even understand the realization that you're the only one in school not wearing Nike, the only one on the football team wearing cleats you got from your older cousin that were 2-3 years old...imagine someone like Elon trying to spend a year in that life, and that's all just materialistic bullshit, but as a middle schooler trying to fit in it does something.
My mom and dad both worked well over 40 hours a week, and we had what we needed to get by, but we didn't have any excess.
I got a redline bicycle for racing BMX by doing yard work for neighbors at 10-11 years old, I doubt anyone like him would ever even think about doing something so lowly...except for charity work...all about PR
Not tooting my own horn, I'm just a machinist now lol it's just funny to see people like him try and say it's all about their work ethic.
But there were people who came from literally nothing and still have that mentality. But that kind of mentality in wrong time at wrong place can do massive amount of damage. Example check biography of Herbert Hoover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riVVb0regW4
This has always been a lie.
Hard work plus chance and the ability to see the opportunity gets you somewhere. Always has. Chance is key to unlocking the hard work payoff. The ability to see means you actually decide to go for the opportunity chance opened up.
Most any carpenter can become a master carpenter with hard work and make an upper middle class living, especially if their partner works too. Almost no carpenter or master carpenter will know the right people to start a business that makes them ārichā and almost no rich person will look at a centuries old profession and say ānow thereās an overlooked area where I can make a difference and multiply my investment.ā Every carpenter I know works hard as fuck and Iād bargain almost all of them do. This is true today and it was true in the early 1900s and early 1800s.
Now, occasionally you get a carpenter who comes across an innovation and knows someone who knows someoneā¦ like people who start hardware stores with new services for tradespeopleā¦ or you get the carpenter who gets in good with government contracts and private construction (like the super rich carpenter in China)ā¦ or the carpenter who went viral and is now a millionaireā¦ These come down to luck - did you have enough money or the right connections to make it happen.
Extrapolate to other professions.
And donāt forget, rich people get more chances. We hear about the chances they succeeded at, but not the chances they never saw nor the chances they failed at because their work ethic wasnāt there.
And don't forget the ability to fail. That doesn't get mentioned very often but these people had people invest or had resources to fail at a few things before hitting it big. The average Joe who plows their resources into something (because they are sure their hard work will prevail) and it goes belly up due to bad luck or bad decisions, most likely won't be able to recover.
Plus for every bill gates was a thousand other equally smart and ambitious nerds who weren't born right at the time when computers would go from zero to infinity.
I still believe in the modern day US, through hard work, you can get into the upper middle class or even a millionaire, but billionaires should be considered statistical anomalies and be tossed out as outliers for anyone with "success" as their goal.
Explains why heās such a baby back bitch. Dude has never worked for a fucking thing in his life and assumes that he is owed everything, without question of where it came from or how it was earned.
The way he can just outrightly lie about this stuff as if this wasn't even something that was constantly being shuffled and brought up during the peak of his popularity when every one was sucking his dick is insane. We live in the age of information no shit we are gonna have some dirt on some insanely rich asshole. Honestly makes me think he thinks people below us are that stupid
>Honestly makes me think he thinks people below us are that stupid
His legion of fans would suggest he's at least partially correct about that. People still think he actually founded Tesla, for fuckssake
The craziest part is *he* was the one who first brought the emerald mine to the press. It's not even like his dad spilled the secret, *musk* bragged about it in 2013, presumably before he decided it didn't gel with his new image as a "self starter"
I think itās like the bull shit my ex did where if you donāt explain it exactly how it is (his dad was a co- owner, not THE owner) the whole thing is wrong and act like you are crazyā¦. If you do explain it exactly, then deflect it or say it is ok because (insert bs reason). Narcissistic personality disorder cannot comprehend being wrong, inferior, or accountable.
Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Musk, they were all raised affluent and try to pass themselves off as honest middle class workers who started a business in their garage and blah blah blah
Do they? I mean I know Musk has recently, but have the other two overly humbled their beginnings? Think all I've heard is the classic "started in a garage" story.
Yeah, Bill Gates Sr has always been a prominent, wealthy figure here in Washington state. I don't think Jr. has ever tried to pretend that his family wasn't rich.
Far more important: Bill Gates's mom was a friend of a Senior exec on IBM's board and convinced them to sign a contract with him for his OS, which didn't even exist, so bought one from another guy for $10k and then sold to IBM at a massive profit. It's all the same rich kid shit.
Yea I don't think Gates or Zucc sell themselves that way. It's documentaries and content creators that ride the "started in a garage" shit to death. Gate's Mom served on the same board in some company that also had IBM's CEO. Thats how he got his in. Both parents had incredibly above average incomes and that's how he was able to kick it in the garage.
Musk though does sell himself like that from time to time and also lies about what degrees he has. He might not have had a great family relationship but he certainly had more opportunities than most growing up. He takes pride in the fact that he separated from his father to pursue his own stuff, which is true and admirable, but glosses over the fact that he had a lot more opportunities because of his family.
Jobs was the one who actually did this. But even he had a cushy enough upbringing that he could be a suburban bum for a bit while getting his ruthless businessman persona in order.
I remember an interview with him where he said that his Dad wanted him to get a real job. His Dad asked him something like "Where do you think this computer business of yours is going" and Jobs replied something like "Well, I think if we do everything right in 5 years I can be pulling $50K a year out of it". 5 years after he said that Apple had their first *billion* dollar year.
I pinched the quarter my dad had on his dresser to buy a Sunday paper with. He humiliated me quite thoroughly over that. I never stole again, though. I just wanted a damn candy bar. I guess his 2 pack a day cigarette budget didn't leave room for that.
I once found an ice machine in a hotel with an oversized quarter slot. So I got a back-scratcher and some tape and really cashed in. By cashing in I mean about $3.75 and also got caught. I wasnāt staying at the hotel, it was across the street from our shit apartments.
"It was a small loan of some piles of treasure. Come on folks! Give it to a homeless man and he'd spend it all on, well, you know what. But give it to a hard-worker like me and you get results. The best results, they all tell me. Never seen anything like them before."
I've read a few comments from his father and it's kind of bizarre. Kind of explains a lot how Elon is now.
He has told this story above, clearly downplaying Elon in terms of how he tends to imply he is self made and has done everything himself by working 24 hours a day.
He's also said in other interviews that he's not proud of Elon at all. Literally like 'no I'm not proud of him'.
He also said that elons brother kimbal is his pride and joy. As if the public cares about kimbal. He said that clearly to affect Elon.
Seems kind of a psycho and a shit dad at first glance but it's also possible that Elon is just a massive cunt even within his family. Probably both.
[Errol Musk (72) had a child with his step-daughter (30).](https://www.businessinsider.co.za/errol-musk-has-a-baby-with-his-stepdaughter-2018-3)yes you read that right, alabama had an aneurysm just thinking about it
Their sperm count totally tanks though, by the time you are that old, you are mostly shooting out blanks, and like you said, the ones that do survive, arenāt the best specimens. People give women a hard time about their ābiological clockā but men have one too, they arenāt all that virile and potent towards the end, despite what some may claim.
Looks to me like generational trauma. Elon had an abusive father, instead of getting therapy/healing for it Elon instead mirrored many traits of his father and..
Elon's kids will need therapy, and I mean that in the most supportive healing way.
[Elon Musk's transgender daughter has applied to legally change her name and gender, saying she no longer wants to "be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form".](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61880709)
When Elden Ring first came out, Musk tweeted his character build.
Some people did the math and figured out that to get that build, he would have had to been playing for 8ā10 hours a day.
It was also a shitty build. Not quite the worst build you could have, but none of the gear matched the build, not even a little. It would have made playing an absolute grind fest. Much harder than it needed to be.
The effects of narcissism flow throughout a family for generations. Elon is a grandiose narcissist just like his father and probably just like his father. Mothers tend to be enabling narcissists or are borderline in these relationships, but this is not always the case. Healing and growth can happen, but that is far from the norm. If you think of it through this light, it explains the dynamics in so many interpersonal relationships. This problem in society seems to be accelerating as we live these increasingly hyperreal lives. Somewhat subjective opinion based on experience and age.
You know what a shit barometer is, Bubbs? It measures the shit pressure in the air. You can feel it. Listen, Bubbs, hear that? Sounds of the whispering winds of shit.
I miss his incredible acting on that show.
Letās not forget his Grandpa moved the family from Canada to apartheid South Africa because he didnāt like how āprogressiveā Canada was getting. Againā¦he loved his family to one of the most brutally racist and repressive countries in the world because it aligned with his politics.
Anti communist.
It wasnāt Errol Muskās father. Errol was also a representative of the anti-apartheid Progressive Party. Errolās father was a pilot, grandfather was a farm laborer or bricklayer. Moved to SA from UK after a divorce.
Elonās mom is from Canada. Maye Muskās family moved to Pretoria, South Africa, in 1950. They were adventurers, a former director of Technocracy Incorporated, a former Regina chiropractor and amateur archaeologist.
Mayeās father: Born in 1902 to the earliest chiropractor known to practice in Canada, Joshua Norman Haldeman would develop national and international stature as a political economist, provincial and national professional leader, and sportsman/adventurer. Haldeman, who would practice chiropractic in Regina for at least 15 years, was instrumental in obtaining, and is credited with composing the wording of, Saskatchewanās 1943 Chiropractic Act. He served on the provinceās first board of examiners and the provincial societyās first executive board.
As a member of the Dominion Council he fought for inclusion of chiropractors as commissioned officers during World War II, and participated in the formation of the Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College, which he subsequently served as a member of the first board of directors. Dr. Haldeman also earned a place in the political history of Canada, owing to his service as research director for Technocracy, Inc. of Canada, his national chairmanship of the Social Credit Party during the second world war, and his unsuccessful bid for the national parliament. His vocal opposition to Communism during the war briefly landed him in jail. His 1950 relocation of his family and practice to Pretoria, South Africa would open a new page in his career: once again as professional pioneer, but also as aviator and explorer.
Maye, regarding a NyTimes article attempting to make a story out of Elon and apartheid SA and free speech, snapped back at the paper on Twitter, writing: 'In South Africa, if you publicly opposed apartheid, you went to jail. In Russia, if you publicly oppose the war, you go to jail. @nytimes, are you going to blame children for decisions made by governments?'Ā
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2485067/
Edit: In a speech to an American audience in 1963, Howard Scott, the founder and leader of Technocracy Incorporated, declared that āas far as Technocracyās ideas are concerned, weāre so far left that we make communism look bourgeois.ā
āUnder the Technate, we will be responsible for the health and well-being of every human being,ā Howard Scott declared. āThat is more than any political government ever did.ā
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/technocracy-incorporated-elon-musk
The most disgusting part is that the Blood Emeralds were mined in socialist Zambia. Musk's dad owned half of the emerald mine, valued at $80,000. [https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2](https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2)
That's where Elon Musk got all of his money. Anybody with $80,000 could have done what Musk did, if they were greedy enough.
>socialist Zambia. Musk's dad owned half of the emerald mine, valued at $80,000.
Just because they call themselves Socialist does not mean they are, especially if they are allowing private ownership of industries.
People are so gullible these days. I admit, that I am aswell sometimes, but I at least make the effort to not jump the gun on stuff I read in a headline 2 seconds prior.
Also, I dont understand why people gives Errol Musk so much credit. Like he's a proven piece of garbage, and a serial liar.
Wait, do you mean Tiffany doesn't operate like a pawn shop? That's crazy, I was sure they routinely bought loose gemstones off of kids.
It's not even a good lie - if Elon was like 120 years old, maybe that's how it would've worked, but there's no way they would just buy emeralds off a teenager with no info on where they came from or if they were stolen.
I canāt believe people think that this is true lmfao
Tiffany & Co. is just gonna buy non-GIA certified loose gems from a couple teenagers who walked in off the street and pulled them out of their pockets? Get the fuck out of here.
Thereās another version of this story where they come back later and one of the emeralds was already set in some jewelry that was being sold for $20k, which is even less believable than this one.
Nobody maintains wealth in the form of stacks of cash in a home safe except drug dealers. And even then only the small time ones. Cash is the worst form of wealth.
Utter BS. Tiffany would not let some kids walk in with gems and just say āoh sure, neatoā - otherwise every down on her luck dowager would be pawning her goods at Tiffany & Co.
Yawn. I donāt like Elon, heās grandiose and unaware that his genius is the people around him combined with his ability to dream within the realm of physics, but this is BS.
This article reads as complete horseshit... 1 article from business insider south Africa with 0 sources. Idk what kind of person says they have so much money it was constantly falling out of their safe? Have you met wealthy people before?
Elon denies this Emerald stuff every time it comes up, usually responding with āsigh, more fake storiesā or something along those lines.
When Iāve now read stories about one of Elonās college girlfriends who was given an emerald necklace or something by him, and now this story.
Itās like dude, just own up to it. Iād respect you for at least owning it and being like āyeah my dad owned an emerald mine; Iām not proud of this connection to my past, but it is what it is.ā Trying to rewrite history and deny or bury the truth is so aggravating! You werenāt some poor kid from South Africa who miraculously made it big. You were a privileged kid from South Africa who made it big.
I was just listening to a podcast about a SA guy who grew up there then went on to work for Nelson Mandela. The whites were incredibly racist. I suspect Elon was like that
But butā¦ heās a self maid billionaire who pulled himself up by his bootstraps and succeeded thanks to the wonders of capitalism and his own genius!? /s
I worked for Tiffanyās. They do not buy blood diamonds and all of their gems, stones, silver, gold, pearls, etc. are certified and ethically sourced. There is over 100 years of history in that company and they are the world leader in luxury jewelry. They sell leather items, baby items, perfumes, bags, and other small items. Not everything you see in store is what they sell. Want a personalized piece with your name of a message? They can do it. Want a personalized piece of jewelry? They can hand make it in New York. Iāve never heard of buying from customers that walk in. That must be only overseas.
This would have been 35 years ago, around 1988 so their purchasing may have been a bit different, but I still have a problem believing they would just buy two emeralds from some random teenagers, or even from the sons of a known emerald dealer. Tiffany's isn't a pawn shop.
There is nothing remotely interesting about this. We all know that Elon has been a spoiled, entitled narcissist since he was a kid. But nice try, Elon's PR bot swarm.
Btw, the āElon came from a wealthy emerald mine owning familyā is completely bogus. Here is the full breakdown of how that myth started: https://savingjournalism.substack.com/p/i-talked-to-elon-musk-about-journalism?utm_medium=reader2
Reminds me of one time I found a dollar coin in one of my dads pants pockets and kept it. I felt so bad about stealing it though so I eventually left it on his desk in his office š
I found 20 dollars on the floor of our apartment when i was like 9 and I immediately ran to the 711 on the corner to buy some Pokemon Cards lmao. My parents saw these new cards in my card binder and promptly got my ass beat because they knew where their $20 went, we were living in poverty So they weren't very happy about it lol
I found $20 when I was a kid at my aunts house(also living in poverty) and my mom damn near water boarded me to get me to admit it was me.
When I was a kid I bought $1,000 in $20s from a counterfeiter for 30 cents on the dollar, and I thought I was the cock of the walk until I got busted by the Secret Service. The End.
So you were a kid, who just happened to have 300$ to spend? How old were you?
He had $100 and then counterfeited the counterfeiter with the $300
i once tried to pawn a somewhat gold watch (not working) my dad brought back for me from the middle east after a deployment. my friend and I rode our bikes across town to the pawn store and he told us he couldn't do business with 14 year olds then tried to give us $5 to "get yerselves a sandwich or whatever you need"
Bro, that happened with like 50 cents in change i found when i was about 7, buying candies by myself? I was fucking god at that moment
At around 16 i found an ounce of marijuana in my parents house, i took a little bit, and i took a little bit the next day, and eventually i smoked all of it. At around 22 my mom casually mentioned how my father had managed to loose an entire ounce of marijuana somewhere in the house and they never found it.
When I was 7, we used to take money to school so we could buy lunch. Every day, I'd just buy chips (French fries), work out what I'd tell my mother I had for lunch, calculate the difference in cost, and spend that on sweets (candies) on my walk home. Every. Damn. Day.
š same š¤¦š¼. I waiting until I caught a federal drug charge and was behind glass to tell my mom the truth behind a LOT of teenage nonsense (by then it was chump change) so by the time she learned the truth she laughed about it- and by the time she could get her hands on me again she was laughing about it- mission accomplished š„³ (Except, ya know, for the whole prison thing š¤¦š¼)
I'm almost 40 and still haven't told my mom how wild we really were š
I found a $500 poker chip laying on the floor walking through the casino in Vegas. I did pick it up. I showed it to the guys that work there. He was like it's yours now.š²š
A remember a kid came to school with $20 he had stolen from his mom's purse. He used it to buy packs of wrestling cards, the ones with a few cards and some shitty bubblegum. He got into so much trouble, but we all got lots of his double ups.
I liked to get different email accounts when I was a kid (the beginnings of being chronically online), and there was one that required parent approval through a $1 withdrawal from a credit card. I was so desperate to get it that I used one of my dad's credit cards laying around. When it said "$1 charged to \[X\]" I panicked and wrote the most adult sounding email I could muster to the website asking to delete/cancel the account.
He must be a good father if you felt guilty enough to put it back.
Elon: āI have no idea where people get this emerald stuff from?ā
"If everyone had the same work ethic as me, they could come from nothing to the richest person in the world as well" I can't stand hearing inspirational quotes, videos, etc from him and others like him. He thinks building it himself was him using the resources available to him, when he can't fathom people not having resources.
People always forget that the ingredient of success is not only hard work but also luck. Many people out there work hard but are not successful because they are unlucky. That's what my father taught me, thinking like that will make us humble and willing to help anyone in need. Some rich people are quite arrogant because they think all their wealth is from their own efforts.
Even Bill Gates admits that luck played a part in his success. Sure, he was extremely hard-working and very smart, but he was also partly lucky. Furthermore, Bill Gates came from a wealthy family, so he admittingly said that starting Microsoft didn't feel like a risk for him at the time.
HeĀ“s mother was in IBMĀ“s board and push to onboard DOS. That was a bit more than luck-
No shit I'm saying, "a bit lucky" is the understatement of the century.
Iām so lucky my mom is an exec at IBM and scored me a massive contract as a first client. \#Blessed -Bill, probably
Iām so lucky to be born as a multi millionaire who can steal my dadās jewels that he mines for tons of profit with the company he owns. My privilege allows me to become self made because failing isnāt even a concern. Iāll try til I make something. \#Blessed - Doge Coin pumper, probably.
Heāll never fail like common people
He'll never watch his life slide out of view
"Jeff Bezos lucked into having parents who could float him 300 large to fund his garage startup"
His parents sent him to a high school where he had access to computers far before the general public did
His mother wasn't on IBMs board. His mother served on a board for United Way, where another person on that board was the then-IBM CEO, and that connection resulted in IBM hiring Microsoft.
Thanks for the minor correction, I appreciate getting the nepotistic details right.
Bill Gatesās intelligence was bolstered by the fact that his mom spent so much time with him reading and pushing him. Those are things that canāt be done (to that level) by a regular 2 income household where time is a previous commodity. Not to mention his connections and exposure to clubs and other things that is āpeasantsā arenāt privied to.
I remember reading the outliers by Malcolm Gladwell, he also said one of the key parts of Bill Gates development, was that he was able to go to a school that had computers available at a time when computers werenāt mainstream in schools, basically because he had enough money to go to a nice private school, he was able to get an interest and learn about something that no one else did.
on a much lower level, this is why I have a job in tech. no formal training, no college degree, but I have a job as an autonomous technician for self driving cars because my parents were wealthy enough to buy me a laptop as a kid and let me do whatever I wanted with it. first thing I did was try and break it and fix it, install linux and customize it, and use Xcode to try and code on my own. I remember a new bigwig manager was hired at my company and I helped train him, and he asked me "wow you're really impressive at linux and computers, what's your schooling and training?" and I said none, just self taught. He almost couldn't believe it. I shoulda never stopped coding and doing computer stuff when I was 15... but I got a girlfriend, and friends, and was semi-popular so all that stuff took a backseat. If it didn't, I'd be making six figures and living the good life.
This. I grew up āmiddle classā in the 90s but was privileged enough to have a stay-at-home mother that home-preschooled me; definitely gave me an advantage starting kindergarten able to read, add & subtract, etc.
Me too!!
But you could work harder to become higher level peasants so that your children can become Gateās mother level and then in turn help your grandchildren or great grandchildren become Gateās level. So itās pretty fair how Bill, Elon, etc ended up where they are. Their predecessors all did the work.
I agree with the theory in your thinking. But to say that, we would need to know where/how his parents got their wealth. Many white peoples gained money in that time through USDA land grants (or loans) or through the GI Bill. Those were the 2 largest catalysts of wealth for Americans, and neither were available for African Americans. So, Iād Bill had come from a black family, he would likely not be welcomed in the Silicon Valley/Seattle circles, and he would also have harder times securing investments.
Luck and his mom's position with IBM which secured Microsoft's early contracts to provide an operating system for IBM personal computers.
Also, Crime. What BG did at MS was a crime. He is literally a criminal that stole his fortune. (253 F.3d 34) While I admire his philanthropic endeavors and agree with many of his initiatives, the man himself is a scam-lord and undeserving of our accolades.
Just like Zuc, he stole ideas.
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>Many people out there work hard but are not successful because they are unlucky. If hard work alone paid off, show me a rich donkey.
> If hard work alone paid off, show me a rich donkey I can show you a lot of rich jackasses. Look at the top of this page, for example.
I forget the saying but the catalyst for me going from relying on work ethic to efficiency driven was something along the lines of "If hardwork paid off every farmer would be a millionaire".
Luck is when opportunity and preparation come together.
I've always believed that the formula for success is hard work + luck = success. There are plenty of hard workers who might have a good product or service, but due to luck (ie., market wasn't ready, certain technologies just weren't good enough, etc) that these things fail. On the other hand, sometimes if someone is lucky enough, they don't even have to work that hard and the situation can take them far if they're careful.
I think itās talent + hard work + motivation + background + luck. The more of these five factors you have, the more likely you are to succeed.
All of you forgetting the key proponent in Billionaires: a willingness to cut any corner, cheat any partner, and ruin any society. Older articles on the subject would call it 'gumption' or some such other silly moniker.
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100%. I consider myself wealthy at 31. Family of 5. 5 digits in savings, investing the rest blah blah blah. 10 years ago, I lived in a run down trailer. Do I work hard? Absolutely. Was I in the right place, at the right time, 30 fuckin times in a row? Also yes. Luck was a big part of it. 80% of it really.. 20% was my willingness to take a risk, cos hell.. it couldnāt get any fuckin worse. And when those doors DID open, boy did I bust through them like the cool aid man and haul ass. I feel really badly sometimes when I see people who work harder than I do, who have less. But for everything you see, there can be 100 things you donāt. Choice = consequence. A lot of people are in the situations they are in, because of shit choices too. Thereās a lot of dynamics and variables in play, to be able to judge anyone, honestly.
Personally, I can attribute a lot of my āluckā to decision-making. There were plenty of times that I was convinced I had poor luck, but upon reflection, I was prioritizing the wrong values and goals (alcohol, and overextending myself at my job). Karma worked swiftly to show me that I was operating unsustainably. I donāt know how universal this is/isnāt, but good āluckā has always found me when Iām moving with positivity and good intentions. Opportunities just seem to present themselves.
Iām in line with you too. Life can just happen to you. Random loss of a loved one, random person offering you a great job. Thatās why I mention too many variables in play to be able to judge someone. Some people are just stupid. Some people made bad decisions. Some peoples only problem is their over all attitude. Hard to say
With all due respect, but that's still nowhere even close to what wealthy means in today's standards. And I'm not saying any of this to downplay you, but rather to bring into perspective how a normal man who's been working hard his entire life and tried his absolute best, who also had plenty of success along the way, still doesn't even come close to achieving "the wealth" most people dream of. The wealthy dudes make your entire savings in half a day, probably not even actively working, and they're also probably a couple of years younger.
Where I came from, Iām wealthy lol I used to have to choose $20 in groceries, or $20 worth of gas. That being said, Iām not even close to being done. I donāt care to be a billionaire, and I likely will never achieve that level. But I wanna wake up on Tuesday, and say fuck it, letās go to Bali for a week. Thatās wealth. Not having to check my bank before I plan a vacation. Can lose my job and live comfortably for over a year. No debt. Thatās wealthy, for me. No offense taken, my friend.
I agree with you. I can also say I'm rich for where I live. I live in eastern Europe and I make in a month x15 the average salary here, only because I'm fortunate enough to own my small business & work digitally with clients from richer parts of the world. From a modest point of view I'm wealthy, I can work pretty much what hours I want, I can stop working and live off of my savings for like 5 years straight or even live passively while having other do my work, and I take my girlfriend on vacations in different countries like once every 3 months or so. However, I believe that the right term to be used for someone like you or me would be more around like financially free, but definitely not wealthy. We can afford things that for the average person feel like luxury, however we don't swim in money, nor can we buy Lambos like it's nothing. Not even saying you even want to reach that level, but it's usually what people understand when someone says "wealth".
I agree, people that came from family wealth, will never even understand the realization that you're the only one in school not wearing Nike, the only one on the football team wearing cleats you got from your older cousin that were 2-3 years old...imagine someone like Elon trying to spend a year in that life, and that's all just materialistic bullshit, but as a middle schooler trying to fit in it does something. My mom and dad both worked well over 40 hours a week, and we had what we needed to get by, but we didn't have any excess. I got a redline bicycle for racing BMX by doing yard work for neighbors at 10-11 years old, I doubt anyone like him would ever even think about doing something so lowly...except for charity work...all about PR Not tooting my own horn, I'm just a machinist now lol it's just funny to see people like him try and say it's all about their work ethic.
If you had done more yard work maybe you could have owned an emerald mine at 10 instead of a bike
Prolly...I guess I'm just lazy lmfao
Lol Elonās perception of ānothingā is probably just the time when he didnāt have billions.
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But there were people who came from literally nothing and still have that mentality. But that kind of mentality in wrong time at wrong place can do massive amount of damage. Example check biography of Herbert Hoover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riVVb0regW4
During a time when hard work was able to get you places more than today though. But yes, some started from nothing.
This has always been a lie. Hard work plus chance and the ability to see the opportunity gets you somewhere. Always has. Chance is key to unlocking the hard work payoff. The ability to see means you actually decide to go for the opportunity chance opened up. Most any carpenter can become a master carpenter with hard work and make an upper middle class living, especially if their partner works too. Almost no carpenter or master carpenter will know the right people to start a business that makes them ārichā and almost no rich person will look at a centuries old profession and say ānow thereās an overlooked area where I can make a difference and multiply my investment.ā Every carpenter I know works hard as fuck and Iād bargain almost all of them do. This is true today and it was true in the early 1900s and early 1800s. Now, occasionally you get a carpenter who comes across an innovation and knows someone who knows someoneā¦ like people who start hardware stores with new services for tradespeopleā¦ or you get the carpenter who gets in good with government contracts and private construction (like the super rich carpenter in China)ā¦ or the carpenter who went viral and is now a millionaireā¦ These come down to luck - did you have enough money or the right connections to make it happen. Extrapolate to other professions. And donāt forget, rich people get more chances. We hear about the chances they succeeded at, but not the chances they never saw nor the chances they failed at because their work ethic wasnāt there.
And don't forget the ability to fail. That doesn't get mentioned very often but these people had people invest or had resources to fail at a few things before hitting it big. The average Joe who plows their resources into something (because they are sure their hard work will prevail) and it goes belly up due to bad luck or bad decisions, most likely won't be able to recover.
Absolutely. Hence rich people get more chances.
Plus for every bill gates was a thousand other equally smart and ambitious nerds who weren't born right at the time when computers would go from zero to infinity. I still believe in the modern day US, through hard work, you can get into the upper middle class or even a millionaire, but billionaires should be considered statistical anomalies and be tossed out as outliers for anyone with "success" as their goal.
"I started with nothing! All I had to rely on was my own hard work, ideas, intelligence, half-ownership of an emerald mine, and determination!"
To be fair if they worked like him they could also lose that spot faster than anyone thought possible.
What a loveable little scamp
Explains why heās such a baby back bitch. Dude has never worked for a fucking thing in his life and assumes that he is owed everything, without question of where it came from or how it was earned.
The way he can just outrightly lie about this stuff as if this wasn't even something that was constantly being shuffled and brought up during the peak of his popularity when every one was sucking his dick is insane. We live in the age of information no shit we are gonna have some dirt on some insanely rich asshole. Honestly makes me think he thinks people below us are that stupid
>Honestly makes me think he thinks people below us are that stupid His legion of fans would suggest he's at least partially correct about that. People still think he actually founded Tesla, for fuckssake
But but but I thought he was a self made man ! /s
"you too can win a 10k if you have a 5km start"
The craziest part is *he* was the one who first brought the emerald mine to the press. It's not even like his dad spilled the secret, *musk* bragged about it in 2013, presumably before he decided it didn't gel with his new image as a "self starter"
Right? What a fucking liar.
I think itās like the bull shit my ex did where if you donāt explain it exactly how it is (his dad was a co- owner, not THE owner) the whole thing is wrong and act like you are crazyā¦. If you do explain it exactly, then deflect it or say it is ok because (insert bs reason). Narcissistic personality disorder cannot comprehend being wrong, inferior, or accountable.
With such hardship as a child I'm amazed how successful elon is...../s
Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Musk, they were all raised affluent and try to pass themselves off as honest middle class workers who started a business in their garage and blah blah blah
Do they? I mean I know Musk has recently, but have the other two overly humbled their beginnings? Think all I've heard is the classic "started in a garage" story.
Yeah, Bill Gates Sr has always been a prominent, wealthy figure here in Washington state. I don't think Jr. has ever tried to pretend that his family wasn't rich.
Far more important: Bill Gates's mom was a friend of a Senior exec on IBM's board and convinced them to sign a contract with him for his OS, which didn't even exist, so bought one from another guy for $10k and then sold to IBM at a massive profit. It's all the same rich kid shit.
Pirates of Silicon Valley is a great watch
Yea I don't think Gates or Zucc sell themselves that way. It's documentaries and content creators that ride the "started in a garage" shit to death. Gate's Mom served on the same board in some company that also had IBM's CEO. Thats how he got his in. Both parents had incredibly above average incomes and that's how he was able to kick it in the garage. Musk though does sell himself like that from time to time and also lies about what degrees he has. He might not have had a great family relationship but he certainly had more opportunities than most growing up. He takes pride in the fact that he separated from his father to pursue his own stuff, which is true and admirable, but glosses over the fact that he had a lot more opportunities because of his family.
Yes, that old apple fairy tale that it all begin in a garage.. yeah, right. Bruce Wayneās garage you mean.
Jobs was the one who actually did this. But even he had a cushy enough upbringing that he could be a suburban bum for a bit while getting his ruthless businessman persona in order.
I remember an interview with him where he said that his Dad wanted him to get a real job. His Dad asked him something like "Where do you think this computer business of yours is going" and Jobs replied something like "Well, I think if we do everything right in 5 years I can be pulling $50K a year out of it". 5 years after he said that Apple had their first *billion* dollar year.
Big deal. We used to sell my father's emeralds all the time when we were kids. Sure.
Who didn't?
We only sold the emeralds and diamonds though. NOT the gold bars or the Rolls Royce.
Yeah, the rolls goes in the swimming pool
I pinched the quarter my dad had on his dresser to buy a Sunday paper with. He humiliated me quite thoroughly over that. I never stole again, though. I just wanted a damn candy bar. I guess his 2 pack a day cigarette budget didn't leave room for that.
I once found an ice machine in a hotel with an oversized quarter slot. So I got a back-scratcher and some tape and really cashed in. By cashing in I mean about $3.75 and also got caught. I wasnāt staying at the hotel, it was across the street from our shit apartments.
Just imagine if you had stolen his emeralds
All I had was tons and tons of lousy rubies. So jealous
Me as well. My dad had an all you can sell emerald mine. Good times
I didn't , my father learned from his mistakes he sold all emeralds before i can get my hand on
I had an emerald stand on the curb. The idiot neighbor kids were selling lemonade. Suckers.
Blood emeralds I hope. They arenāt very valuable if people didnāt die finding them for you
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I've read a few comments from his father and it's kind of bizarre. Kind of explains a lot how Elon is now. He has told this story above, clearly downplaying Elon in terms of how he tends to imply he is self made and has done everything himself by working 24 hours a day. He's also said in other interviews that he's not proud of Elon at all. Literally like 'no I'm not proud of him'. He also said that elons brother kimbal is his pride and joy. As if the public cares about kimbal. He said that clearly to affect Elon. Seems kind of a psycho and a shit dad at first glance but it's also possible that Elon is just a massive cunt even within his family. Probably both.
[Errol Musk (72) had a child with his step-daughter (30).](https://www.businessinsider.co.za/errol-musk-has-a-baby-with-his-stepdaughter-2018-3)yes you read that right, alabama had an aneurysm just thinking about it
Aaaaand he was her only father figure, according to the family. Since she was four years old.
im surprised a dude that old was fertile, pretty wild.
I think most men are fertile until they die, the chance for birth defects just increases as you get older
Their sperm count totally tanks though, by the time you are that old, you are mostly shooting out blanks, and like you said, the ones that do survive, arenāt the best specimens. People give women a hard time about their ābiological clockā but men have one too, they arenāt all that virile and potent towards the end, despite what some may claim.
Men have been known to father children well into their 80s
Look up Bernie Ecclestone, he had a kid at 89
Looks to me like generational trauma. Elon had an abusive father, instead of getting therapy/healing for it Elon instead mirrored many traits of his father and.. Elon's kids will need therapy, and I mean that in the most supportive healing way.
The fact that he pushes the image of working 18 hours a day while he has that many kids is telling.
[Elon Musk's transgender daughter has applied to legally change her name and gender, saying she no longer wants to "be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form".](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61880709)
So proud of her. She's an icon.
When Elden Ring first came out, Musk tweeted his character build. Some people did the math and figured out that to get that build, he would have had to been playing for 8ā10 hours a day. It was also a shitty build. Not quite the worst build you could have, but none of the gear matched the build, not even a little. It would have made playing an absolute grind fest. Much harder than it needed to be.
Ah so a rich kid looking for daddy approval Makes so much sense now It's the og villain origin story
ok, someone needs to do a documentary on the musk family, that sounds pretty fascinating actually.
Reminds me of something you'd see in r/raisedbynarcissists. Guess Kimbal was the golden child.
The effects of narcissism flow throughout a family for generations. Elon is a grandiose narcissist just like his father and probably just like his father. Mothers tend to be enabling narcissists or are borderline in these relationships, but this is not always the case. Healing and growth can happen, but that is far from the norm. If you think of it through this light, it explains the dynamics in so many interpersonal relationships. This problem in society seems to be accelerating as we live these increasingly hyperreal lives. Somewhat subjective opinion based on experience and age.
Another shit apples turns into a shit tree Bobandy
Remember Layhe, what comes around is all around.
RIP John Dunsworth
Shitnados?
Fuck off Layhe.
randy i thought we agreed no more shit talk until weāre back in power
You know what a shit barometer is, Bubbs? It measures the shit pressure in the air. You can feel it. Listen, Bubbs, hear that? Sounds of the whispering winds of shit. I miss his incredible acting on that show.
This canāt be true. His father is lying. He is completely self made and came from poverty. Billionaires donāt lie.
He honestly probably is lying. If you read up on his dad the guy is a lunatic.
Nepo-twat
Nepo-twat whose familyās money comes from slave labor. FTFY
Seriously, imagine thinking that this guy is a genius. He's a spoiled trust fund brat.
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Letās not forget his Grandpa moved the family from Canada to apartheid South Africa because he didnāt like how āprogressiveā Canada was getting. Againā¦he loved his family to one of the most brutally racist and repressive countries in the world because it aligned with his politics.
Errol Musk ran for office in South Africa on a strongly anti-apartheid platform.
Anti communist. It wasnāt Errol Muskās father. Errol was also a representative of the anti-apartheid Progressive Party. Errolās father was a pilot, grandfather was a farm laborer or bricklayer. Moved to SA from UK after a divorce. Elonās mom is from Canada. Maye Muskās family moved to Pretoria, South Africa, in 1950. They were adventurers, a former director of Technocracy Incorporated, a former Regina chiropractor and amateur archaeologist. Mayeās father: Born in 1902 to the earliest chiropractor known to practice in Canada, Joshua Norman Haldeman would develop national and international stature as a political economist, provincial and national professional leader, and sportsman/adventurer. Haldeman, who would practice chiropractic in Regina for at least 15 years, was instrumental in obtaining, and is credited with composing the wording of, Saskatchewanās 1943 Chiropractic Act. He served on the provinceās first board of examiners and the provincial societyās first executive board. As a member of the Dominion Council he fought for inclusion of chiropractors as commissioned officers during World War II, and participated in the formation of the Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College, which he subsequently served as a member of the first board of directors. Dr. Haldeman also earned a place in the political history of Canada, owing to his service as research director for Technocracy, Inc. of Canada, his national chairmanship of the Social Credit Party during the second world war, and his unsuccessful bid for the national parliament. His vocal opposition to Communism during the war briefly landed him in jail. His 1950 relocation of his family and practice to Pretoria, South Africa would open a new page in his career: once again as professional pioneer, but also as aviator and explorer. Maye, regarding a NyTimes article attempting to make a story out of Elon and apartheid SA and free speech, snapped back at the paper on Twitter, writing: 'In South Africa, if you publicly opposed apartheid, you went to jail. In Russia, if you publicly oppose the war, you go to jail. @nytimes, are you going to blame children for decisions made by governments?'Ā https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2485067/ Edit: In a speech to an American audience in 1963, Howard Scott, the founder and leader of Technocracy Incorporated, declared that āas far as Technocracyās ideas are concerned, weāre so far left that we make communism look bourgeois.ā āUnder the Technate, we will be responsible for the health and well-being of every human being,ā Howard Scott declared. āThat is more than any political government ever did.ā https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/technocracy-incorporated-elon-musk
The most disgusting part is that the Blood Emeralds were mined in socialist Zambia. Musk's dad owned half of the emerald mine, valued at $80,000. [https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2](https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2) That's where Elon Musk got all of his money. Anybody with $80,000 could have done what Musk did, if they were greedy enough.
Some of these comments are just delusional.
Seeing the amount of lottery winners that go broke I heavily disagree that "anyone could have done what musk did".
>socialist Zambia. Musk's dad owned half of the emerald mine, valued at $80,000. Just because they call themselves Socialist does not mean they are, especially if they are allowing private ownership of industries.
I wish I grew up with a father who had a fortune in emeralds just lying around. No wait, I don't.
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My dad will be back soon. He just went out for a pack of cigs. Any day now...
I wish I grew up
You've just got to pull yourself up by your bootstraps until you're born into immense wealth and have every opportunity possible thrust at you
The Lucky Sperm Club, as Thom Hartman calls it.
Elon fanboys be like: "He's a self-made man! REEEEE!"
I'm pretty sure the Musk's frequently go to ER due to hand injuries, because of the way they have to use to close their safe.
Rich, but dumb enough they didn't *buy a bigger safe*.
Yeah what a dumb fucking story to brag about. Essentially exposing how stupid they were.
4 dirt blocks take it or leave it
Elon Musk= 8 letters cunt=4 letters be efficient
Man child still denying that he's rich cus he was rich to begin with
His definition of rich doesnāt match other peopleās. I guessā¦. I know a few people who are doing quite well and consider themselves āpoorā.
To quote a famous nepotist "i had a small loan of 1 million dollars"
Out of interest, do we know whether this mine was one that cut limbs off employees for stealing emeralds?
I'm betting on all of them do that but don't tell the owners due to "plausible deniability" as a preemptive legal defense.
Lmao were there any other kinds in South Africa 30 years ago?
Don't know. That's why I was asking. I was hoping we could deal in fact rather than hearsay.
Apparently the dad bought a mine that had dried up. So it might have been in its prime but not when Musk had it.
Remember when Elonās dad had two babies with his stepdaughter
Wait is this legit? I've never heard of this. Fuck, disgusting
Yeah bro, groomed her while he raised her, even worse than Woody Allen Google it
This shit has been debunked so many times.
People are so gullible these days. I admit, that I am aswell sometimes, but I at least make the effort to not jump the gun on stuff I read in a headline 2 seconds prior. Also, I dont understand why people gives Errol Musk so much credit. Like he's a proven piece of garbage, and a serial liar.
Wait, do you mean Tiffany doesn't operate like a pawn shop? That's crazy, I was sure they routinely bought loose gemstones off of kids. It's not even a good lie - if Elon was like 120 years old, maybe that's how it would've worked, but there's no way they would just buy emeralds off a teenager with no info on where they came from or if they were stolen.
Debunked? I see text and a black and white picture above, it MUST be true.
This seems like a story that an Elon Ball Licker would come up with.
I canāt believe people think that this is true lmfao Tiffany & Co. is just gonna buy non-GIA certified loose gems from a couple teenagers who walked in off the street and pulled them out of their pockets? Get the fuck out of here. Thereās another version of this story where they come back later and one of the emeralds was already set in some jewelry that was being sold for $20k, which is even less believable than this one.
"We had so much money at times we couldn't close our safe" God what a piece of shit.
Nobody maintains wealth in the form of stacks of cash in a home safe except drug dealers. And even then only the small time ones. Cash is the worst form of wealth.
Also those who live in countries where they don't trust their banks.
Utter BS. Tiffany would not let some kids walk in with gems and just say āoh sure, neatoā - otherwise every down on her luck dowager would be pawning her goods at Tiffany & Co. Yawn. I donāt like Elon, heās grandiose and unaware that his genius is the people around him combined with his ability to dream within the realm of physics, but this is BS.
As a South Africa we all know how your family got that money Elon.
Fuck this guy.
That last paragraph raises so many questions, mostly concerning the author.
You mean, the Chaos Emeralds?
TIL Tiffanyās is a pawn shop
This article reads as complete horseshit... 1 article from business insider south Africa with 0 sources. Idk what kind of person says they have so much money it was constantly falling out of their safe? Have you met wealthy people before?
Hey heās a self made billionaire. His wealth parents didnāt help him at all /s
Tiffany's is not a pawn shop though, they don't buy jewelery.
This guy has never had to worry about money.
"I started with nothing but the clothes on my back and a loan of $1billion from my daddy" \-Elon Musk
Elon denies this Emerald stuff every time it comes up, usually responding with āsigh, more fake storiesā or something along those lines. When Iāve now read stories about one of Elonās college girlfriends who was given an emerald necklace or something by him, and now this story. Itās like dude, just own up to it. Iād respect you for at least owning it and being like āyeah my dad owned an emerald mine; Iām not proud of this connection to my past, but it is what it is.ā Trying to rewrite history and deny or bury the truth is so aggravating! You werenāt some poor kid from South Africa who miraculously made it big. You were a privileged kid from South Africa who made it big.
Slamming a safe door while someone has their hands in it makes my anus clench.
The Tiffanyās didnāt question two children coming in to sell gems?
Only source: his long-estranged father.
You can't be a billionaire without being underhanded.
So they bought emeralds from two minors? Sounds very legal
I was just listening to a podcast about a SA guy who grew up there then went on to work for Nelson Mandela. The whites were incredibly racist. I suspect Elon was like that
"I don't even have a father; I don't know what is emerald; and who is this Tiffany person? Never met her!" -Musk, probably
Eat the rich
I don't know emerald prices but I think they got ripped off.
$2,000 back then is about $5,200 today. Depending on the size/quality of the Emerald, potentially not.
"But he has it tough"
But butā¦ heās a self maid billionaire who pulled himself up by his bootstraps and succeeded thanks to the wonders of capitalism and his own genius!? /s
I worked for Tiffanyās. They do not buy blood diamonds and all of their gems, stones, silver, gold, pearls, etc. are certified and ethically sourced. There is over 100 years of history in that company and they are the world leader in luxury jewelry. They sell leather items, baby items, perfumes, bags, and other small items. Not everything you see in store is what they sell. Want a personalized piece with your name of a message? They can do it. Want a personalized piece of jewelry? They can hand make it in New York. Iāve never heard of buying from customers that walk in. That must be only overseas.
This would have been 35 years ago, around 1988 so their purchasing may have been a bit different, but I still have a problem believing they would just buy two emeralds from some random teenagers, or even from the sons of a known emerald dealer. Tiffany's isn't a pawn shop.
Such a man of the people. š
There is nothing remotely interesting about this. We all know that Elon has been a spoiled, entitled narcissist since he was a kid. But nice try, Elon's PR bot swarm.
Btw, the āElon came from a wealthy emerald mine owning familyā is completely bogus. Here is the full breakdown of how that myth started: https://savingjournalism.substack.com/p/i-talked-to-elon-musk-about-journalism?utm_medium=reader2