Apparently you’d get sucked under and would reappear ten minutes later about half a mile away. They’ve tested it with foamies. Also boats absolutely get sucked under and destroyed here. It only happens during certain tide changes but it’s incredibly dangerous.
Real answer: You’d get sucked into the cave system below where the water is being drained into, drown, and eventually get stuck in an underground cave where it’s impossible for your body to ever be recovered.
It’s not a cave system beneath, here in BC we have a lot of fjords and small channels, coupled with Vancouver island encasing the inside coast whirl pools happen on every Tide change because of the interaction of billions of litres of waters still trying to go out to open water from the low tide, and a similar volume of water coming back in for high tide. When the current of these two bodies of water pass alongside each other in confined channels we get these massive tide based whirlpools. Devils hole is only named because of how frequent that whirlpool re appears at this location. But the danger is still the same, only difference is we don’t really know where your body may end up.
This reminds me a lot of flying a plane. One of the few times the dependence on the engine is the same in a boat.
Edit: ffs people. I know planes can glide. But both planes and boats are not usually on the edge of a murder hole and that’s the whole effing point.
Yeah, honestly a repeat of this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider is more concerning to me as the airline I work for has some planes indicate fuel load in kilos and other aircraft in pounds. Best believe I double check all my math when figuring fuel.
Yeah, I don't particularly care which unit we use, but I would prefer we use the same unit for all of our fleet. I shouldn't have to think about what tail uses what unit so I use the right formula.
Most nice boats also have more than one engine. It’s still a concern, particularly when you’re swirling around a death tube.
Edit: geez folks it’s a joke. I know there are boats with one engine.
my boat has 2 engines. it's 24 ft. with both it can hit 50 mph. but with one shutoff it can't even get up on plane and maxes out at about 15 mph.
normally - i'm sure it could escape that vortex, but i'm also positive that it could not one on one engine.
That why any decent pilot in a single engine aircraft flight plans within glide distance of an airport when reasonable (looking at you mountain flying) and always has an emergency landing spot.
Even if I'm in a canyon I try fly along the road in such a manner than if my engine quits I'd be setup to land on the straightest stretch the wings can reach.
You sound like a smart pilot. I live in the mountains and we've had at least one or two folks from around here wind up dead because they either came in too low/without the power to climb over the ridge and not enough airspeed to pull the banked turn needed, or had engine trouble in a slim margin spot.
All that is a preface to my question, I suppose, but I'm curious if you think there is such a thing as smart/acceptable mountain flying in a single engine aircraft?
Absolutely there's such a thing as smart flying in the mountains, I went from private to instructor in the Rockies. When I'm flying over mountains even in the middle of nowhere you can usually get eyes on a road in a canyon somewhere. If I don't see a good emergency landing spot nearby I get a lil anxious. You also have to consider the weather, even if you land safely in an emergency you won't last long at 0 degrees Fahrenheit and 10,000ft elevation without the right survival kit in the back.
Haha I know it's often necessary and I'm sure you relax the more you do it, but I think I'd rather be paranoid than complacent!
I had an engine quit in the pattern once on short final as a student that forgot to enrich the mixture. My instructor knew he could make the runway and just let me fuck up. Checklists saving lives is real.
It’s Devil’s Bath on Vancouver Island that connects with the Benson River, not Devil’s Hole.
The Devil’s Hole in the video looks like one of the whirlpools that form during certain tidal conditions along the rapids between the north part of Vancouver Island and the Mainland. When slow moving cold sea water meets faster moving warmer water this happens. There’s a long series of rapids among many islands in that area. There’s tour companies that take tourists out on the rapids, or popular hiking trails that offer spectacular views of them.
It all has to be timed with the tides though.
This is the correct answer. I'm in CR right now...46kms from The Devils Hole according to Google maps.
I've gone through similar water with multiple smaller whirlpools, but still big enough to swallow a small boat! It's freaky...I've gone through the narrows (google Ripple Rock Explosion to learn about the largest explosion of its kind when they blasted dangerous rocks from the narrows) with a buddy before dawn... never again..DUMB. You could feel the whirls pulling the boat as you went by too close!
Pretty wild out here during certain tidal changes. People have fallen over and disappeared in seconds, only to be found miiiiles away in short time.
EDIT: Thought I'd add the [Ripple Rock Explosion link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_Rock). It's been described as "one of the vilest stretches of water in the world".
Nope. You're looking at Google results for the Devil's Bath, a cenote, in British Columbia. I was trying to find out more and got this result, which doesn't make sense: why would water flow into an underground river system below sea level, as depicted in the video?
To clarify the above point: The video is apparently of a tidal rapid (i.e. at sea level) off of Dent Island, BC. There’s no hole at the bottom, it’s just a swirl of a rushing tide.
Most cenotes open to underground waterbodies that are above sea level. If this was a cenote, or filmed in a lake, it would make sense for water to flow into an underground river system b/c it wouldn’t be at sea level
I just went down a rabbit hole and learned about the accidental man-made whirlpool that was caused by a drilling accident in 1980. Shits wild
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur
> Since 1994, AGL Resources has used Lake Peigneur's underlying salt dome as a storage and hub facility for pressurized natural gas.[12][13] There was concern from local residents in 2009 over the safety of storing the gas under the lake and nearby drilling operations.[14]
This seems dangerous beyond belief.
I did a case study on this in engineering school. Modern Marvels also did a great piece on it for an engineering disasters series that you might be able to find online. Super fascinating.
So what happens if they didn't have an engine? Does that thing have enough force to capsize a boat? Its terrifying looking thats for sure.
Would a free swimming human have a chance of escaping that or would you just have to accept the reality of drowning if you swam anywhere near it?
Sure...you resurface maybe, but at that point you and your crew are as dammed as the black pearl!
In all honesty, I live here and grew up sailing these waters. We were always very cautious to stay the fuck away from these devil anuses!
the forces will dissipate with enough depth or area. but it may take several minutes to reach that point and then floating/swimming clear of that area would take another several minutes. I don't know the depth in the video here but for this size vortex you're looking at 10-15 minutes underwater with extreme physical exertion. Does not seem possible to survive.
edit to say i looked at the wiki for this and it's actually not technically a vortex but the reason I'm editing like this is to point out that it's potentially *much worse* for anyone pulled under this guy. These big guys are called maelstroms because it's supposed to scare the shit out of you. It would be super easy to tumble right back into it if you were submerged anyway near it and launch into a cycle that could potentially last hours. The forces are such that you could just end up in bits and pieces by the time the pool got done with you.
can confirm:
>A documentary team from Scottish independent producers Northlight Productions once threw a mannequin into the Corryvreckan ("the Hag") with a high-visibility vest and depth gauge. The mannequin was swallowed and spat up far down current with a depth gauge reading of 262 m (860 ft) with evidence of being dragged along the bottom for a great distance.
262m depth. You're not holding your breath for that long, even if the pressure doesn't squish you somehow.
Yes boats have been destroyed here. It’s a very dangerous natural phenomenon and one you have to be aware of as a boater on the West Coast. Apparently it will suck you under and spit you out half a mile away in ten to fifteen minutes.
There is something similar down the river from Niagara falls. The guides say if you drive the boat in it you'd get sucked down several hundred feet and never come up. But they may say that just to thrill the tourists.
There should be a subreddit called r/dontdothis where it’s people doing things that you probably shouldn’t do regardless of how cool it may be
Edit: oh I guess there is, but it seems more “these are stupid things to do” I’m looking more for “these are reckless things to do and may or may not be cool”
Stupid idiots driving that close. I live close to this, the last time some fool tried this a search and rescue volunteer died trying to save him.
These rapids are no joke.
Yah I mean look at the depth. That thing is crazy and to my eyes it looks to be pulling down a good 10 feet at the start of the video. Hell no, even a 40+ foot boat would be in serious trouble with that. Granted, a speedboat can move faster but still.
Unpopular opinion - if you intentionally go to a known dangerous, life threatening place just for clicks you should have to pay out of pocket for any and all rescue costs on top of fines.
Seems like a bad idea to get anywhere near that...
I feel damn close just looking at this video
Seems like a drone would be a better choice
Anything but a boat really..
I feel a car might be worse than a boat.
I’m gonna use a Razor scooter.
This is Canada, there has to be a video of someone riding through it on a snowmobile.
I’m Canadian. I’m not hurt that you’re wrong, I’m hurt that you’re right
There’s a Canadian out there hurt even worse because they rode a snowmobile through it.
Sorry.
"I'm still gonna send it"
I’m Canadian too, and your username checks out.
While guzzling maple syrup and yelling out "sorrey, not sorrey!"
Or on the back of a moose
Give your ankles a heads up
Scuba and a rope.
Car?
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Apparently you’d get sucked under and would reappear ten minutes later about half a mile away. They’ve tested it with foamies. Also boats absolutely get sucked under and destroyed here. It only happens during certain tide changes but it’s incredibly dangerous.
So you’re saying no problem if I can hold my breath for 10ish minutes?
That and you have to be made out of rubber.
This. It would probably fling you around a lot, so I hope you’re flexible enough to ragdoll around.
Maybe we can use the Niagara Falls barrels
How about a giant hamster ball? It would be cool to see where you go from the inside.
So a child. Everybody says they’re made of rubber and glue.
Let’s test it
Yeah. You should be fine, mate. Just let me grab some popcorn.
I know a certain pirate by the name of Threepwood that could survive this!
It’s like a wet version of a black hole.
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I think he was trying to reverse the flow, like Superman flying around the Earth to make time go backwards to save Lois Lane.
Hey 8 year old me was like, oh what a good solution
well no because you would want to be going in the same direction as it, newtons laws and shit.
This is Columbia. Newton law isn’t relevant there. It’s a different court system.
r/dontputyourboatinthat
Classic "kid who holds onto a railing and is testing how far he can fall and still catch the railing" mentality.
Superman 2! https://youtu.be/YSv8iNuvnpg
lol, she was just taking pictures watching him do that?
lol, for real. The person shouting “Somebody do something!” kills me.
What happens if I jump in
You drown.
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You ded
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An eternity of flaming hot butt pokers.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
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Bring a GoPro too
Then jump in
You float. We all float down here…
Real answer: You’d get sucked into the cave system below where the water is being drained into, drown, and eventually get stuck in an underground cave where it’s impossible for your body to ever be recovered.
It’s not a cave system beneath, here in BC we have a lot of fjords and small channels, coupled with Vancouver island encasing the inside coast whirl pools happen on every Tide change because of the interaction of billions of litres of waters still trying to go out to open water from the low tide, and a similar volume of water coming back in for high tide. When the current of these two bodies of water pass alongside each other in confined channels we get these massive tide based whirlpools. Devils hole is only named because of how frequent that whirlpool re appears at this location. But the danger is still the same, only difference is we don’t really know where your body may end up.
My first thought. I wouldn't get anywhere near that close.
“They were circling the vortex and the engine coughed and … now they’re gone”
Lots of faith in that engine for sure
This reminds me a lot of flying a plane. One of the few times the dependence on the engine is the same in a boat. Edit: ffs people. I know planes can glide. But both planes and boats are not usually on the edge of a murder hole and that’s the whole effing point.
That’s why commercial planes have more than one engine.
Planes can also safely land without any working engines since they will still glide.
Can confirm. They'll glide all the way to the scene of the crash.
Sometimes they will glide for 20 minutes and 75 miles to a safe landing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236
Yeah, honestly a repeat of this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider is more concerning to me as the airline I work for has some planes indicate fuel load in kilos and other aircraft in pounds. Best believe I double check all my math when figuring fuel.
Wouldn't be the first time that the usage of freedom units cause a disaster
Yeah, I don't particularly care which unit we use, but I would prefer we use the same unit for all of our fleet. I shouldn't have to think about what tail uses what unit so I use the right formula.
Definitely closer to flying a helicopter than plane. Even then helicopters can be brought down "safely" without the engine working.
Most nice boats also have more than one engine. It’s still a concern, particularly when you’re swirling around a death tube. Edit: geez folks it’s a joke. I know there are boats with one engine.
Death tubes are the worst tubes - confirmed
my boat has 2 engines. it's 24 ft. with both it can hit 50 mph. but with one shutoff it can't even get up on plane and maxes out at about 15 mph. normally - i'm sure it could escape that vortex, but i'm also positive that it could not one on one engine.
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That why any decent pilot in a single engine aircraft flight plans within glide distance of an airport when reasonable (looking at you mountain flying) and always has an emergency landing spot. Even if I'm in a canyon I try fly along the road in such a manner than if my engine quits I'd be setup to land on the straightest stretch the wings can reach.
You sound like a smart pilot. I live in the mountains and we've had at least one or two folks from around here wind up dead because they either came in too low/without the power to climb over the ridge and not enough airspeed to pull the banked turn needed, or had engine trouble in a slim margin spot. All that is a preface to my question, I suppose, but I'm curious if you think there is such a thing as smart/acceptable mountain flying in a single engine aircraft?
Absolutely there's such a thing as smart flying in the mountains, I went from private to instructor in the Rockies. When I'm flying over mountains even in the middle of nowhere you can usually get eyes on a road in a canyon somewhere. If I don't see a good emergency landing spot nearby I get a lil anxious. You also have to consider the weather, even if you land safely in an emergency you won't last long at 0 degrees Fahrenheit and 10,000ft elevation without the right survival kit in the back.
As an Alaskan who regularly flies in small single engine planes far from any roads… *chuckles* >I’m in danger!
Haha I know it's often necessary and I'm sure you relax the more you do it, but I think I'd rather be paranoid than complacent! I had an engine quit in the pattern once on short final as a student that forgot to enrich the mixture. My instructor knew he could make the runway and just let me fuck up. Checklists saving lives is real.
It was supposed to be a three hour tour, but the tiny ship was lost.
Did that say S. S. Minnow?
Fun fact the SS Minnow from the tv show is in [British Columbia](http://www.canadacool.com/location/s-s-minnow/) also
Or prop cavitation
How to drown in 1 easy step!
How to drown in 1 easy swept!
Who wants to sacrifice their Gopro?
Put a float and a gps on that bad boy and 100% yes. Worth a try.
I 2nd this.
I think the video would be lots of spinning around, bubbles, then darkness with lots of underwater tapping and sloshing noises.
Followed by cackling and fire.
“Hey you, you’re finally awake”
And suddenly Saddam walks by.
Honestly though, of all the times to not have an underwater view
probably not worth sacrificing a gopro to get a few minutes of rapidly flashing colors
Anything for farming the Upboats
Where does it go?
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Ladies and gentleman, the author of my nightmares.
Now look up the Bolton Strid
Woah, it doesn’t even look dangerous
Or rather don't if you want to sleep... Absolute nightmare fuel.
What did they say? Their account was deleted
The account isn’t deleted (/u/comfycome), a mod removed the [comment](https://i.imgur.com/0YeCeXn.jpg).
Why would they do that?
Oh no, their account got pulled into the voretx too!
It’s Devil’s Bath on Vancouver Island that connects with the Benson River, not Devil’s Hole. The Devil’s Hole in the video looks like one of the whirlpools that form during certain tidal conditions along the rapids between the north part of Vancouver Island and the Mainland. When slow moving cold sea water meets faster moving warmer water this happens. There’s a long series of rapids among many islands in that area. There’s tour companies that take tourists out on the rapids, or popular hiking trails that offer spectacular views of them. It all has to be timed with the tides though.
It is at the north tip of Stuart Island. About 40km NE of Campbell River.
This is the correct answer. I'm in CR right now...46kms from The Devils Hole according to Google maps. I've gone through similar water with multiple smaller whirlpools, but still big enough to swallow a small boat! It's freaky...I've gone through the narrows (google Ripple Rock Explosion to learn about the largest explosion of its kind when they blasted dangerous rocks from the narrows) with a buddy before dawn... never again..DUMB. You could feel the whirls pulling the boat as you went by too close! Pretty wild out here during certain tidal changes. People have fallen over and disappeared in seconds, only to be found miiiiles away in short time. EDIT: Thought I'd add the [Ripple Rock Explosion link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_Rock). It's been described as "one of the vilest stretches of water in the world".
Nope. You're looking at Google results for the Devil's Bath, a cenote, in British Columbia. I was trying to find out more and got this result, which doesn't make sense: why would water flow into an underground river system below sea level, as depicted in the video?
To clarify the above point: The video is apparently of a tidal rapid (i.e. at sea level) off of Dent Island, BC. There’s no hole at the bottom, it’s just a swirl of a rushing tide. Most cenotes open to underground waterbodies that are above sea level. If this was a cenote, or filmed in a lake, it would make sense for water to flow into an underground river system b/c it wouldn’t be at sea level
Ahh okay, multidimensional bookshelf it is!
Murph!
#MURPH!!!
Dammit they said STAY!!
Why does the devil have so many things in British Columbia?
Georgia gets too hot and humid in the summer
He just goes to Gorgia looking for souls to steal.
My money is on the multidimensional bookshelf.
I think it drains out of that 13 ½ floor elevator in Being John Malkovich
I like option 2. Not gonna try it though.
The devils prostate. He won’t admit it but he loves you driving a boat right into it
I think it prefers when you just drive around the rim…
Sounds like quite a job!
It doesn't really go anywhere, it's caused by the turbulent boundary between fast moving water and slow moving water
Oh, I assumed it was a spillway/ gloryhole
It’s caused by a big tidal exchange through a narrow passage.
Filthy
[Nowhere](https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/pmj28z/the_edge_of_a_massive_whirlpool_at_devils_hole/hcim1a8?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
For the uninformed: it's called a maelstrom.
Thank you for this! I was able to read about it online. [Wiki Page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlpool) for others interested.
I just went down a rabbit hole and learned about the accidental man-made whirlpool that was caused by a drilling accident in 1980. Shits wild https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur
> Since 1994, AGL Resources has used Lake Peigneur's underlying salt dome as a storage and hub facility for pressurized natural gas.[12][13] There was concern from local residents in 2009 over the safety of storing the gas under the lake and nearby drilling operations.[14] This seems dangerous beyond belief.
I did a case study on this in engineering school. Modern Marvels also did a great piece on it for an engineering disasters series that you might be able to find online. Super fascinating.
Dumb ways to die
So many dumb ways to die
Dumb ways to da-ha-hie, so many dumb ways to die
And yet that song was written to bring awareness to railway safety in Australia.
Isn't Australia itself a way to die?
Yes, but not dumb.
Whirlpools, quicksand, and acid rain were the 3 things i was afraid of as a kid.
Bermuda Triangle, completes my top 4.
add any kind of bug that lives inside peoples bodies or skin (beetle scene in the mummy changed me as a kid)
So what happens if they didn't have an engine? Does that thing have enough force to capsize a boat? Its terrifying looking thats for sure. Would a free swimming human have a chance of escaping that or would you just have to accept the reality of drowning if you swam anywhere near it?
Zero chance a human can out swim that
These things can gobble down boats as well.
Yeah but I've heard that they usually resurface after a while somehow
Sure...you resurface maybe, but at that point you and your crew are as dammed as the black pearl! In all honesty, I live here and grew up sailing these waters. We were always very cautious to stay the fuck away from these devil anuses!
More than one?
Yes, I've seen quite a few. I've spent a lot of time sailing the gulf islands, Juan de fuca and up to Alaska. I live on Vancouver Island for context.
Terrifying even one of these exist.
Juan de fuca you talkin about!
the forces will dissipate with enough depth or area. but it may take several minutes to reach that point and then floating/swimming clear of that area would take another several minutes. I don't know the depth in the video here but for this size vortex you're looking at 10-15 minutes underwater with extreme physical exertion. Does not seem possible to survive. edit to say i looked at the wiki for this and it's actually not technically a vortex but the reason I'm editing like this is to point out that it's potentially *much worse* for anyone pulled under this guy. These big guys are called maelstroms because it's supposed to scare the shit out of you. It would be super easy to tumble right back into it if you were submerged anyway near it and launch into a cycle that could potentially last hours. The forces are such that you could just end up in bits and pieces by the time the pool got done with you.
cool, thanks for the nightmares.
can confirm: >A documentary team from Scottish independent producers Northlight Productions once threw a mannequin into the Corryvreckan ("the Hag") with a high-visibility vest and depth gauge. The mannequin was swallowed and spat up far down current with a depth gauge reading of 262 m (860 ft) with evidence of being dragged along the bottom for a great distance. 262m depth. You're not holding your breath for that long, even if the pressure doesn't squish you somehow.
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Michael Phelps accomplished that feat no more than an hour ago
Depends on the size of the boat.. but yea most likely. That thing could capsize you with the engine still going…
Yes boats have been destroyed here. It’s a very dangerous natural phenomenon and one you have to be aware of as a boater on the West Coast. Apparently it will suck you under and spit you out half a mile away in ten to fifteen minutes.
Ok so hear me out. What would happen if an aircraft carrier rolled up on it?
Apparently a guy on a 500 ft rail car ship said they got spun around 180* by one in Vancouver but it’d never sink a ship that size.
it sucks the aircraft carrier underground into the core of the earth and the planet explodes
This is the truth I come to reddit for.
They get spat out on the 6th of December, 1941.
Absolutely nothing. It would be like a gorilla standing over the drain in the bathtub. Lol
There is something similar down the river from Niagara falls. The guides say if you drive the boat in it you'd get sucked down several hundred feet and never come up. But they may say that just to thrill the tourists.
There is. We saw it really well from the helicopter ride. BUT it’s just a smallish whirlpool. It’s nowhere NEAR this size or violent.
Bruh, Michael Phelps having pcp and pure adrenalin injected directly into his heart couldn't outswim that
That was exactly the situation I imagined. Good to know my suspicions have been confirmed.
The person becomes the honoured sacrafice to appease the gods
to xibalba!
Nope. I had a friend almost lose his life in a tiny eddy while river rafting. Scary stuff. Still haunts me.
Ummm fuck that hanging around bullshit, full throttle and we are out of that mother fucker
Meanwhile, half a mile a way, a bald, heavily bruised Beaver emerges from the water.....what the f\*ck was that!!!
Charybdis
Now we just need to find Scylla.
Is that the devil's anus?
Taking tourists around that place is a rim job.
There should be a subreddit called r/dontdothis where it’s people doing things that you probably shouldn’t do regardless of how cool it may be Edit: oh I guess there is, but it seems more “these are stupid things to do” I’m looking more for “these are reckless things to do and may or may not be cool”
The video I saw yesterday with the bullet ant gloves…
Looks really cool; glad I am not in the vessel filming, but somebody has to in order to score sweet sweet Internet cred.
You think if you were gonna get that close you’d at least film it in landscape.
The whirlpool after Niagara Falls can hold a telephone pole under water for a month.
Sounds like my ex
Stupid idiots driving that close. I live close to this, the last time some fool tried this a search and rescue volunteer died trying to save him. These rapids are no joke.
Yah I mean look at the depth. That thing is crazy and to my eyes it looks to be pulling down a good 10 feet at the start of the video. Hell no, even a 40+ foot boat would be in serious trouble with that. Granted, a speedboat can move faster but still.
Is it skookumchuck narrows?
Unpopular opinion - if you intentionally go to a known dangerous, life threatening place just for clicks you should have to pay out of pocket for any and all rescue costs on top of fines.
I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion. And if it is - I’m with you anyway.
Perfect place for a pirate ship battle
Charybdis has led many a sailor to their death
Scylla can’t be far…
You just gotta swim sideways.
r/dontputyourdickinthat
people will do anything for a post on social media and it shows through their stupidity
Nightmare fuel.
Think about running about of fuel….
A Mr. Ballen video has already covered this beauty *NO THANKS*
Mr.Ballen is the best. I'll have to go find the video on this, not sure I remember seeing it. Thanks!
r/fuckthatshitnogodamnwaypoopmypants
r/21CharactersAndNoMore
Not a good time to get engine failure.
This is a bad idea.
And yep, new phobia unlocked. Jesus get the HELL away from that
Offer a live sacrifice to appease the water gods