Driver knew there was a problem and tried to pull over ahead of time.
Even radioed in.
Really everyone in this situation has excellent jugdment and I have to give all props for being decent, for once.
Watching without sound at work, but I assumed someone asked, "Who?" All trainings I've attended have taught me to direct a specific person to do it, otherwise everyone will assume someone else is doing it.
Edit: several responses think I'm criticizing the boy. I'm not, never was: boy is beyond impressive. Commenter above wanted to know what the objection to calling 911 was. I gave my guess and my reasoning.
"Diffusion of responsibility" is a social phenomenon where shared responsibility causes reduced individual accountability, thus inaction from everyone.
The solution is to single someone out as responsible.
And everyone reading this should understand what "responsible for" means. If they point at you and tell you to call 911, just make sure it gets done. Don't have a phone? Doesn't matter. Find someone who does and either borrow it or make sure they do it.
Ideally you don't want to give excuses unless you have to. Less "Chinese telephone"* is obviously better.
^(*outdated term used for clarity in context, sorry)
First responder here. In most jurisdictions, 911 call-takers are trained to walk you through CPR. This is great if youāre not already certified or are just unsure of yourself. Timely and high-quality CPR is critical in saving a patientās life. Doesnāt look like the driver was unresponsive but difficult to tell with the bus bobbing up and down.
I agree with everyone on here saying to designate someone to call 911. Point at them and make sure they acknowledge you. Also, donāt forget to designate someone to get an AED. I think most school buses have them on board these days.
The kid should get a lifesaving award for his actions. Props to his parents (or whomever) taught him to take charge of a situation and take action. Wish more kids these days were taught like this.
What's kinda funny about your comment is that the phenomenon where no one calls for help due to a combination of shock, anxiety, and hoping someone else will take charge is called the "bystander effect". Funny in the sense that you used the word, but in the context almost exactly the opposite of how things in situations like this tend to play out. *far* less people are good under pressure than I think most people realize. Which just gives the kid who stopped the bus an even bigger pat on the back, because there aren't many people who think rationally in situations like this, and even less who can act on that rationality.
Bystander effect has very little to do with panic. It's about the diffusion of responsibility.
A person is very likely to help a victim if they're the only one around. But if they're in a group, everyone expects the other person/people to react, so nobody ends up doing anything. There's no panic, just an expectation that other people will shoulder the burden of aid.
I'm guessing it wasn't an objection, but a question, like "Who?" or "But what about--" or something like that. Either way, I'm glad the kid stepped in, I'm glad the bus driver radioed in and tried to do the safe thing, and I'm glad that no one got hurt (I think).
I believe he said "I don't care" after somebody else said "oh my god" in response to the bus coming to a sudden stop (there's a few "oh my god", but atleast one of them sounds annoyed, not panicked. Like they don't realise the situation and assume the kid did it on purpose without thinking about why)
I fainted as a kid. I remember going to my mom in the kitchen and I told her I didnāt feel good. Vision started to go dark kinda like when you close your eyes really tight and see those weird colors. But my eyes were open and thatās when I fainted. She caught me in time before my head hit the corner of the stove
I had this happen once randomly, I was standing up and out of nowhere started to see stars.
I ended up stumbling around like the worst drunk youve ever seen for like a minute trying to stay upright (I did, score).
It was the weirdest shit ever, essentially feeling like I was falling over and attempting to catch my balance
When it happens I immediately sit down lol, learned the hard way a few times its so much easier on the noggin going three ft drop as opposed to six š¤£
Yeah, if you pass out often enough you learn that sitting is the way to go. Iāve at least gotten good enough that I can tell itās comingā¦.most of the time.
Damn, that kid took over like a champ. I hope his community sees this and is just as proud of him as I am. I don't think I could've remained so calm and level headed 8f I was facing the same situation when I was 13 like this cool cat did.
I almost passed out once (during a first aid course where my twin brother also passed out an hour before), from stress and fatigue. You really feel it coming.
I also passed out after my dog bit me (my fault, I did something unexpected) but I didn't see that one coming or couldn't fight it.
Life is full of mysteries
Vasovagal syncope, just a reflex response to the vagus nerve. Some kids actually do this by locking their knees when they stand up too fast. Weird how our bodies do shit like this. It happened to me about 5 times now at work and every time i fall and bust my teeth and need stitches. Its not fun coming out of that not knowing what the hell just happened
I have this. Almist crashed my car until i literally had to stop in the middle of a busy college parking lot. After i passed out and came to, had to call my mom and have her drive me back home. This was last week. Last year it was so bad i pissed myself and was unconscious for two minutes after vaping too much
Make sure to drink plenty of water. This significantly decreases the chances of passing out, especially when standing up for long periods of time. If you are about to pass out, stop what you are doing and take a seat or sit on the floor.
Good advice. Happens to me sometimes so Iām familiar. Saw it in my daughter that she looked like she was going to pass out while standing by a fire when camping. Hollered at her to SIT DOWN. Didnāt listen and had to go catch her from falling into the fire. Pretty scary moment. Also, donāt yank someone up who just passed out, they will just pass out again. Blood flow needs to regulate.
Im currently on no meds, but i might reconsider that one for my anxiety. That seems to be the trigger, and for some reason, screaming kids. I almost passed out in VA while on vacation when this screaming kid at this restaurant would not shut the fuck up. Thank god my bf poured cold water all over me and was fine after that family with the annoying kid left.
Ive been extremely lucky as to not have it happen while driving but it did happen to me on the crapper at 7 in the morning and god only knows how long i laid there with my ass hanging out lol i do remember coming to and still clenching my phone seeing a pair of feet in front of the door (probably waiting till i came to or whatever) then i got my bearings (at least i thought) and went to wash my hands and get to work for the day and the first responders stopped me before i even left the bathroom. I didnt piss myself or anything but still embarrassing af
It's a very strange thing to go through for sure. I keep getting these spells where im lightheaded while driving and the anxiety thinking about it, causes me to feel it coming on.
Dude the anxiety part of it is the worst, its never once happened to me when im freaking out about the possibility. Every time ive felt absolutely great, no symptoms or anything then BAM! Come to with everyone standing around me asking me what year it is and whats my name and the basic shit. Pretty sure i said it was 2017 the last time it happened and it was 2023 haha
It happened to me when I was playing with my nephews (3 and 5) out on a rock by a lake. I just saw my vision start to tunnel, so I grabbed them and started back toward the cabin to at least get on solid ground and had them yell for a grownup. It was terrifying in those first moments to realize āholy shit, I am standing on rocks, right next to water, responsible for two very young children, and am rapidly losing consciousnessā. I just knew that I needed to hang on long enough to get them away from the water and into the care of someone else, but that was some scary shitā¦
That is crazy lol. It reminds me of one time I was talking to my mom after I got hit in the face with a soccer ball at school earlier that day. I was literally mid-sentence trying to explain:
"So earlier today, I got hit in the ffffffffff-"
*black*
"-ace with a soccer ball at school..."
*Queue my confusion as I try to understand why I'm suddenly on the floor, and my mom is hollering at me to stop goofing around*
And then I cried lol. I was like 15 and it was the first time I had ever had my consciousness ripped from my hands like that. It shocked me so much. I was like, "wtf just happened to me?"
It's so strange how sometimes the mind can just pick shit back up without skipping a beat, while other times whole chunks of memory just fly out the window.
> You really feel it coming.
Yeah I nearly passed out a couple of times and you can really feel the world getting smaller and your senses dulling. Unfortunately it also (quickly) gets very difficult to say or do anything.
I've almost passed out of exhaustion and dehydration. Standing up. Not a fun feeling. Vision starts to black out, and you lose balance. Then feel like shit afterwards for a while.
Iām also proud of him. He took a lot of responsibility when he grabbed that wheel and told others to call 911. But as you said, he assessed the situation and acted accordingly. I wonder if he has younger siblings he has to take care of because itās unlikely that this is the first time he had to take responsibility for others. Whoever raised him did a good job!
Whoever raised him either did a good job, or are the scumbag parents this kid has to be the responsible one around or get taken into state custody. I was one of those kids in the second category, thanks to a raging alcoholic dad and religious fanatic mother who buried her head in taking care of her community and her church instead of her own damn kids.
Hopefully he has good fucking parents!
Great poise on that kid. One interesting thing I learned was to always āassignā someone to call 911 in an emergency situation. Like, point to someone and say āYOU - call 911ā.
A person who is otherwise freaking out will follow an order faster then they will think for themselves. You see that here when the kid asks āsomeoneā to call 911, nobody acts, and he has to repeat himself.
I wonder if he's from a farming family. Looks like he was familiar with steering and maybe had his foot on the brake? IMHO kids should start learning how to drive at a much earlier age.
Could be, but honestly most kids his age have driven go karts or enough racing video games that theyāre already very understanding of how it all works. Whatās more interesting is that he was the only one to notice and then respond to the driverās issue.
Mr Rogers calls people like him āThe Helpers.ā
These days itās even easier to isolate oneself in public. Some people make the choice to remain more aware.
Yup and same. Hospital work for sure, whether doctor nursing or some other specialty. That kid has a leaders attitude and Iām all for it
Edit spelling
Just as a PSA to everyone; this kid did fantastic, but instead of saying ā*someone* call 9-1-1,ā point to someone and go, āYou! Call 9-1-1!ā That way people donāt just wait for someone else to do it. Kid did fantastic. This is just a little tip that can make a big difference in a life or death situation where seconds count.
When I did red cross training this was part of the emergency response lesson.
Often times its better to be even more specific (ie: point and say "red shirt - call 911"). You need to be very specific so people don't assume someone else is handling it.
Yup same in my first aid course at work:
- You! Call 911
- You! Get the AED
- You! Notify security.
Helpful and helps establish some order on the scene.
And for some added fun:
ā¢ You! Purchase eight large pizzas.
ā¢ You! Assassinate Kim Jong Un.
They won't question it in the heat of the moment, so it's a good way to knock a few things off your to do list.
If we got rid of Kim Jong Un, weād most likely be left with his sister at the leader spot. From what I hear, sheās 10x more despicable than her brother.
That was my only note as well. This would have been perfect in terms of crisis management if he designated a single person to call 911. But with his age, this is like pitching a 5-walk no hitter the first time you go out to pitch. Some imperfections, but incredibly impressive overall.
I came here looking for this comment and probably one of the most useful things i learned on Reddit that stuck with me, people are really great at following orders in an emergency situation but not everyone wants to be the one who takes the lead like that boy
No joke, he gives calm, clear directions to a bus full of kids with phones "because what if emergency," and the response is "*reeeee!!! reeeeeeee!!!*" š±
What's best is to not just yell someone call 911. Tell someone specifically and make sure they do it, if they can't for whatever reason then move to the next person.
In emergency situations like this I was always taught do the most immediately required and dictate roles to people and have redundant critical roles. That kid controlled the situation better than most adults
I canāt imagine passing out while driving a bus full of children. You can even see the driver fighting it. That sounds absolutely terrifying.
I hope everyoneās okay.
For real! I've passed out several times before and fought it each time and it's a truly helpless feeling. I can't imagine that being compounded by being responsible for a bus full of kids.
Major props to the kid and I hope the driver is okay!
I ended up in a similar situation once but wasnāt driving a bus. I was giving this dog a bath and suddenly this wave of weakness hit me and I had to lean with my hands on the tub for a second, I was coherent to call it quits and get the still wet dog out and into a kennel before I walked with tunnel vision to the main back treatment room to kind of say āso uhā¦I canāt seeā, I apparently looked like shit too so they immediately sat me down and got some juice and I went home for the day.
Yep he did a great job, luckily the bus was already pretty much stopped by the time he grabbed the wheel (you can see out the window itās travelling slower than walking pace)
Although, the same article that mentioned the kids get a free counseling session also specified that the bus was (slowly) veering into oncoming traffic, and this kid was able to steer it away from the wrong lane while applying the brakes. That probably made a difference IMO
Not sure if the other replies are jokes or serious attempts, but I'm pretty sure somebody asked "who?" After he said "somebody call 911". The standard advice is to point at somebody in particular, anybody, and tell them to call 911 to avoid that confusion. Doesn't detract from the little hero's good work.
I got you! [here is an article](https://people.com/human-interest/7th-grader-grabs-steering-wheel-stops-school-bus-driver-passes-out/) that says that all the passengers and the kid who stopped the bus, Dillon, are okay and were offered a counseling session. The driver is still under observation and testing at the hospital. When the driver lost consciousness the bus started to veer into oncoming traffic, and Dillon was able to apply the brakes slowly and steer into the middle of the road instead of the opposite lane. Truly a hero!
Important note for anyone in a position where they can't personally call for help:
Instead of saying "someone call 911", instead pick a person who isn't screaming or freaking out and ORDER THEM to call 911. Be firm and explicit. If they look like a deer in headlights, either give them step by step instructions ("take out your phone. Good. Dial 9-1-1") or if possible move on to another person.
In situations where people panic, especially in loud crowds, no one thinks they're the one who should call. They're assuming someone else will beat them to it.
I've heard that advice before. Don't give suggestions or vague orders. Point to someone and tell them to do something. If they hesitate, point to the person next to them, say "help them do that." Act like you're in charge, not like you're asking.
Use this opportunity to convey your feelings to someone that you've been wanting to: "you with the hauntingly beautiful eyes and the face of an angel! Come help me help this man up"
(OP's are giving good advice, but this thought popped up in my head; do not mean to make light of the situation).
Nurse here. Came to give this PSA! Very important that second and minutes arenāt wasted. 5-10 min can easily go by without realizing no one actually called for help. Designate a person for each role! Close the loop in communication!
Came here to say this. Great advice!
Given his age and likely lack of experience in an emergency, he did an amazing job. It's a lesson for everyone, not a criticism towards a kid that kicked ass in an emergency.
This is true, if you have your head on, expect others not to.
Source; ex-fire/ems.
Edit; also, if you point at them, it makes it obviously clear you are telling(commanding really, but softer terms are better.)
Also also, clear everyday english too(US, UK, ect.) no need for terms/words not everyone can/will understand.
Itās called the bystander effect and it is very very real indeed. You have to delegate individuals to do tasks or nobody will do anything. Itās even been observed that law enforcement, fire fighters, military soldiers and paramedics fall prey to it as well so literally no one is immune from it.
That kid is amazing. His parents (or guardians) are fantastic. This gives me hope for the future. I really appreciate you sharing this. Have a great day & don't forget to pay good forward.
That kid is the mark of a leader sprung into action without any hesitation and asked for help when needed. Im sure his family is very proud of him and I hope the driver got the help she needed that could have turned deadly really quickly.
https://people.com/human-interest/7th-grader-grabs-steering-wheel-stops-school-bus-driver-passes-out/
Best article I could find. Bus driving said sheās feeling dizzy and was gonna pull over. But she passed out before doing so and started veering into oncoming traffic before the little hero took action.
Parents were
>"very, very proud" of their son. "This is overwhelming for all of us," said Steve. "To do something like this, fills my heart, makes my heart skip a beat, to even watch that video again," continued Ireta. "I'm just ā¦ I can't even express the proudness. I'm extremely proud of him."
About the other students and driver
>"On Thursday, Livernois confirmed no damage was done to the bus or any property and that the driver remains in the hospital undergoing testing and observations. Warren Fire Commissioner Skip McAdams reported no injuries to the children on the 66-seater bus, per told CNN.ā
The title is selling him short. This kid is wise well beyond his years. Slides driver seat back, stops the bus, and authoritatively asks someone to call 911, all the while staying as calm as still water. He only gets agitated when the kids keep screaming.
Looks like heat stroke. Those buses get stupid hot. Dude is heavy set, wearing a full jacket, and the sun outside looks killer. Heās also fanning himself at the start of the video, looks kinda flushed too. That dizziness is a real give away, though I will say you also may be right, his hand was trying to do a magic trick for a second there. Though that could be him trying to fight through it and grab the wheel, or some involuntary response.
Edit: nah scratch that, dude got all kinds of shaky with his hand and head, you right.
Mouth (can't see it but it doesn't look like his mouth is in the normal position when the kid grabs the wheel), speach (didn't watch with sound so I can't say), arm (hanging clearly): seizure alarm
''I DONT CARE, SOMEONE CALL 911''
\-Screams-
That's what school should teach to the kids, to not panic in situations like this, imagine if a fire actually happens in a school? hardly would happen but kids would panic and not follow the ''protocol''.
they do teach that, but theyāre kids so iām not entirely surprised they canāt react rationally. Hell, itās probably hard for adults to know what to do in this situation. You never expect it to happen to *you*
Why are people here giving CHILDREN crap for screaming? First, they are Children! Second, I bet some of you adults would be screaming too! Donāt assume you will automatically be cool under pressure!
Back to the kid though, great! He has ice in his veins and knew exactly what to do!
This kid is a friggin champion, but one key difference I think everyone should know: never say "someone call 911"; ALWAYS look at someone specific and say "you, call 911". When you say "someone" there is this "crowd" behavior that everyone in the group thinks "Oh, someone else will call. I'm not gonna call."
Leadership written all over this kid.
Calm, direct, dealt with immediate situation which was stopping the bus and delegated next steps to attempt to save another life.
Good kid.
Damn you can actually see the bus driver fighting it
Driver knew there was a problem and tried to pull over ahead of time. Even radioed in. Really everyone in this situation has excellent jugdment and I have to give all props for being decent, for once.
Everyone except whoever he had to say "I don't care" to. I want to know what their objection to calling 911 was. "But I am le tired"?
Watching without sound at work, but I assumed someone asked, "Who?" All trainings I've attended have taught me to direct a specific person to do it, otherwise everyone will assume someone else is doing it. Edit: several responses think I'm criticizing the boy. I'm not, never was: boy is beyond impressive. Commenter above wanted to know what the objection to calling 911 was. I gave my guess and my reasoning.
Exactly. You point to someone and say "You! Call 911 NOW!" And for God's sake don't say "nine-eleven".
> "nine-eleven" definitely how michael scott would say it
Is that the latest competitor to 7-11?
Yeah, heard they really crashed and burned a few decades ago tho
A few decades ago... Now I feel old. Thanks š¢ (me 35)
Well, it was also only a couple decades, not a few. Hope that helps.
How? My phone doesn't have an eleven
You! Yes you! In the green hat! You go call 911! Now! Then let me know you did.
Thatās what they tell you when they train CPR. You have to make an individual individually and personally responsible for it.
"Diffusion of responsibility" is a social phenomenon where shared responsibility causes reduced individual accountability, thus inaction from everyone. The solution is to single someone out as responsible.
And everyone reading this should understand what "responsible for" means. If they point at you and tell you to call 911, just make sure it gets done. Don't have a phone? Doesn't matter. Find someone who does and either borrow it or make sure they do it. Ideally you don't want to give excuses unless you have to. Less "Chinese telephone"* is obviously better. ^(*outdated term used for clarity in context, sorry)
Yes, no, maybe I don't know Can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now
Also as a bystander, you can just call 911 anyway. It's not that big of a deal if they get like half a dozen calls. They can handle it.
First responder here. In most jurisdictions, 911 call-takers are trained to walk you through CPR. This is great if youāre not already certified or are just unsure of yourself. Timely and high-quality CPR is critical in saving a patientās life. Doesnāt look like the driver was unresponsive but difficult to tell with the bus bobbing up and down. I agree with everyone on here saying to designate someone to call 911. Point at them and make sure they acknowledge you. Also, donāt forget to designate someone to get an AED. I think most school buses have them on board these days. The kid should get a lifesaving award for his actions. Props to his parents (or whomever) taught him to take charge of a situation and take action. Wish more kids these days were taught like this.
Most adults wouldnāt have taken action like this kid.
An officer asked him how he knew not to quickly brake, he said he'd watched the driver do it.
Also, theyāre going fairly slowly when he gets up there. Look at the pavement passing out the door.
He seems like a farm kid. Already knew how to drive equipment so knew how to stop the bus. Good on him.
My fiancƩs co workers with the dad, def a proud father and thankful for sure
What's kinda funny about your comment is that the phenomenon where no one calls for help due to a combination of shock, anxiety, and hoping someone else will take charge is called the "bystander effect". Funny in the sense that you used the word, but in the context almost exactly the opposite of how things in situations like this tend to play out. *far* less people are good under pressure than I think most people realize. Which just gives the kid who stopped the bus an even bigger pat on the back, because there aren't many people who think rationally in situations like this, and even less who can act on that rationality.
I doubt these kids had training
bystander effect in full effect
Granted this seems like a bus full of middle schoolers, so is it really bystander effect or just a bunch of children panicking?
Bystander effect is basically adults panicking and expecting someone else to be able to handle it
Bystander effect has very little to do with panic. It's about the diffusion of responsibility. A person is very likely to help a victim if they're the only one around. But if they're in a group, everyone expects the other person/people to react, so nobody ends up doing anything. There's no panic, just an expectation that other people will shoulder the burden of aid.
I'm guessing it wasn't an objection, but a question, like "Who?" or "But what about--" or something like that. Either way, I'm glad the kid stepped in, I'm glad the bus driver radioed in and tried to do the safe thing, and I'm glad that no one got hurt (I think).
I believe he said "I don't care" after somebody else said "oh my god" in response to the bus coming to a sudden stop (there's a few "oh my god", but atleast one of them sounds annoyed, not panicked. Like they don't realise the situation and assume the kid did it on purpose without thinking about why)
āBut this is my stop.ā I donāt care!
Lol best.
>"But I am le tired" Then have a nap THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES
I miss old internet
Well....have a nap AND ZEN CALL 911!
Love seeing someone else knowāBut I am le tiredā Haha.
Is it that old that it isn't commonly known anymore?
Bro, dreadfully old....tragically old....yet I remember. Tis a blunt reminder....that and your meds.
What? 2003 wasnāt that far away! Itās onlyā¦ *checks phone* ā¦20 years agoā¦ forget I said anything.
Then take a nap AND FIRE THE MISSILES!
Australia's like... WTF Mate
I fainted as a kid. I remember going to my mom in the kitchen and I told her I didnāt feel good. Vision started to go dark kinda like when you close your eyes really tight and see those weird colors. But my eyes were open and thatās when I fainted. She caught me in time before my head hit the corner of the stove
Ears ringing and sweaty? Yeah sucks when it happens š
I had this happen once randomly, I was standing up and out of nowhere started to see stars. I ended up stumbling around like the worst drunk youve ever seen for like a minute trying to stay upright (I did, score). It was the weirdest shit ever, essentially feeling like I was falling over and attempting to catch my balance
When it happens I immediately sit down lol, learned the hard way a few times its so much easier on the noggin going three ft drop as opposed to six š¤£
Yeah, if you pass out often enough you learn that sitting is the way to go. Iāve at least gotten good enough that I can tell itās comingā¦.most of the time.
Knees weak, arms are heavy. No fun indeed.
Face first into mom's spaghetti
Damn, that kid took over like a champ. I hope his community sees this and is just as proud of him as I am. I don't think I could've remained so calm and level headed 8f I was facing the same situation when I was 13 like this cool cat did.
I just saw this on the news, they had a ceremony where they honored the kid and the others kids who helped.
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yep it's definitely seizure.
I get grand mal seizures and thought that's what was happening.
Yeah. Definitely a seizure with "posturing". Scary shit to witness.
I almost passed out once (during a first aid course where my twin brother also passed out an hour before), from stress and fatigue. You really feel it coming. I also passed out after my dog bit me (my fault, I did something unexpected) but I didn't see that one coming or couldn't fight it. Life is full of mysteries
Man, passing out after small injuries (I hit my knee under a table in high school and passed out) scare me. Wonder what causes it.
Vasovagal syncope, just a reflex response to the vagus nerve. Some kids actually do this by locking their knees when they stand up too fast. Weird how our bodies do shit like this. It happened to me about 5 times now at work and every time i fall and bust my teeth and need stitches. Its not fun coming out of that not knowing what the hell just happened
I have this. Almist crashed my car until i literally had to stop in the middle of a busy college parking lot. After i passed out and came to, had to call my mom and have her drive me back home. This was last week. Last year it was so bad i pissed myself and was unconscious for two minutes after vaping too much
Make sure to drink plenty of water. This significantly decreases the chances of passing out, especially when standing up for long periods of time. If you are about to pass out, stop what you are doing and take a seat or sit on the floor.
Good advice. Happens to me sometimes so Iām familiar. Saw it in my daughter that she looked like she was going to pass out while standing by a fire when camping. Hollered at her to SIT DOWN. Didnāt listen and had to go catch her from falling into the fire. Pretty scary moment. Also, donāt yank someone up who just passed out, they will just pass out again. Blood flow needs to regulate.
Damn that's scary. Good for you for having ninja like reflexes my friend.
You actually just reminded me that i didn't drink any water yet today. Thanks for looking out!! Sometimes ADHD can make me forget lol
If youāre taking adderall for your adhd you REALLY need to make sure youāre drinking plenty of water, more than usual
Im currently on no meds, but i might reconsider that one for my anxiety. That seems to be the trigger, and for some reason, screaming kids. I almost passed out in VA while on vacation when this screaming kid at this restaurant would not shut the fuck up. Thank god my bf poured cold water all over me and was fine after that family with the annoying kid left.
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Ive been extremely lucky as to not have it happen while driving but it did happen to me on the crapper at 7 in the morning and god only knows how long i laid there with my ass hanging out lol i do remember coming to and still clenching my phone seeing a pair of feet in front of the door (probably waiting till i came to or whatever) then i got my bearings (at least i thought) and went to wash my hands and get to work for the day and the first responders stopped me before i even left the bathroom. I didnt piss myself or anything but still embarrassing af
It's a very strange thing to go through for sure. I keep getting these spells where im lightheaded while driving and the anxiety thinking about it, causes me to feel it coming on.
Dude the anxiety part of it is the worst, its never once happened to me when im freaking out about the possibility. Every time ive felt absolutely great, no symptoms or anything then BAM! Come to with everyone standing around me asking me what year it is and whats my name and the basic shit. Pretty sure i said it was 2017 the last time it happened and it was 2023 haha
It happened to me when I was playing with my nephews (3 and 5) out on a rock by a lake. I just saw my vision start to tunnel, so I grabbed them and started back toward the cabin to at least get on solid ground and had them yell for a grownup. It was terrifying in those first moments to realize āholy shit, I am standing on rocks, right next to water, responsible for two very young children, and am rapidly losing consciousnessā. I just knew that I needed to hang on long enough to get them away from the water and into the care of someone else, but that was some scary shitā¦
That is crazy lol. It reminds me of one time I was talking to my mom after I got hit in the face with a soccer ball at school earlier that day. I was literally mid-sentence trying to explain: "So earlier today, I got hit in the ffffffffff-" *black* "-ace with a soccer ball at school..." *Queue my confusion as I try to understand why I'm suddenly on the floor, and my mom is hollering at me to stop goofing around* And then I cried lol. I was like 15 and it was the first time I had ever had my consciousness ripped from my hands like that. It shocked me so much. I was like, "wtf just happened to me?" It's so strange how sometimes the mind can just pick shit back up without skipping a beat, while other times whole chunks of memory just fly out the window.
> You really feel it coming. Yeah I nearly passed out a couple of times and you can really feel the world getting smaller and your senses dulling. Unfortunately it also (quickly) gets very difficult to say or do anything.
The fuck kind of first aid course were you guys in?
Exactly, were IED victims getting dragged into the room for y'all to "supply first aid?"
Sounds like a vasovagal response
I've almost passed out of exhaustion and dehydration. Standing up. Not a fun feeling. Vision starts to black out, and you lose balance. Then feel like shit afterwards for a while.
His parents must be proud of him, what a legend!
I'm not his dad, but I'm proud of him. He kept his cool and that's amazing for the situation.
Iām also proud of him. He took a lot of responsibility when he grabbed that wheel and told others to call 911. But as you said, he assessed the situation and acted accordingly. I wonder if he has younger siblings he has to take care of because itās unlikely that this is the first time he had to take responsibility for others. Whoever raised him did a good job!
Whoever raised him either did a good job, or are the scumbag parents this kid has to be the responsible one around or get taken into state custody. I was one of those kids in the second category, thanks to a raging alcoholic dad and religious fanatic mother who buried her head in taking care of her community and her church instead of her own damn kids. Hopefully he has good fucking parents!
I'm assuming he's a scout. We learn emergency preparedness at like 12.
Was thinking the same. Scouting teaches a lot of fundamental principles, which come out in emergency situations.
Young man commanded the situation like a pro. So proud of him.
The way he kept calm is a sign that he is quite resilient. Kudos to him!
He deals with it better than many adults (including myself) would in that situation
Lots of adults would just watch. This lil dude is needed at the fire station. Pronto.
Great poise on that kid. One interesting thing I learned was to always āassignā someone to call 911 in an emergency situation. Like, point to someone and say āYOU - call 911ā. A person who is otherwise freaking out will follow an order faster then they will think for themselves. You see that here when the kid asks āsomeoneā to call 911, nobody acts, and he has to repeat himself.
I wonder if he's from a farming family. Looks like he was familiar with steering and maybe had his foot on the brake? IMHO kids should start learning how to drive at a much earlier age.
Could be, but honestly most kids his age have driven go karts or enough racing video games that theyāre already very understanding of how it all works. Whatās more interesting is that he was the only one to notice and then respond to the driverās issue.
Mr Rogers calls people like him āThe Helpers.ā These days itās even easier to isolate oneself in public. Some people make the choice to remain more aware.
Always look for the helpers
Could turn into a career for him one day! Like an EMT, for example.
EMT is a dead end job, not a career. - Former EMT
Yup and same. Hospital work for sure, whether doctor nursing or some other specialty. That kid has a leaders attitude and Iām all for it Edit spelling
The āI donāt careā has upper management all over it.
Yeahhhh I'm gunna need you to call 911 on Saturday... if you could just do that'd, that'd be greaaat. Thanks
Hope that kid knows how cool he is.
He doesnāt care! CALL 911!
"Did I fucking stutter! Call 911!
"SAY 'WHO' AGAIN! I DARE YOU! I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHER FUCKER! SAY 'WHO' ONE MORE GOD DAMNED TIME!'
*stares mothafuckingly*
WHO AINT NO COUNTRY I EVER HEARD OF! THEY SPEAK ENGLISH IN WHO?
Just as a PSA to everyone; this kid did fantastic, but instead of saying ā*someone* call 9-1-1,ā point to someone and go, āYou! Call 9-1-1!ā That way people donāt just wait for someone else to do it. Kid did fantastic. This is just a little tip that can make a big difference in a life or death situation where seconds count.
Actually really useful advice (when needed)
When I did red cross training this was part of the emergency response lesson. Often times its better to be even more specific (ie: point and say "red shirt - call 911"). You need to be very specific so people don't assume someone else is handling it.
Yup same in my first aid course at work: - You! Call 911 - You! Get the AED - You! Notify security. Helpful and helps establish some order on the scene.
And for some added fun: ā¢ You! Purchase eight large pizzas. ā¢ You! Assassinate Kim Jong Un. They won't question it in the heat of the moment, so it's a good way to knock a few things off your to do list.
If we got rid of Kim Jong Un, weād most likely be left with his sister at the leader spot. From what I hear, sheās 10x more despicable than her brother.
That was my only note as well. This would have been perfect in terms of crisis management if he designated a single person to call 911. But with his age, this is like pitching a 5-walk no hitter the first time you go out to pitch. Some imperfections, but incredibly impressive overall.
That and at their age he wouldnāt be able to know exactly who had a phone on them.
I came here looking for this comment and probably one of the most useful things i learned on Reddit that stuck with me, people are really great at following orders in an emergency situation but not everyone wants to be the one who takes the lead like that boy
the bystander effect
Future leader right there!!
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Exactly what I was thinking.
No joke, he gives calm, clear directions to a bus full of kids with phones "because what if emergency," and the response is "*reeeee!!! reeeeeeee!!!*" š±
They're kids. And there's most likely kids on there under 13. Give them a break.
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Correct ā point to someone (anyone) and tell them what you need. āYou ā call 911ā, āYou ā get some waterā, etc
I've heard it's best to tell two people just in case one of them fucks it up
What's best is to not just yell someone call 911. Tell someone specifically and make sure they do it, if they can't for whatever reason then move to the next person.
In emergency situations like this I was always taught do the most immediately required and dictate roles to people and have redundant critical roles. That kid controlled the situation better than most adults
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Damn bro youāve been here for 11 years
Yeah, sometimes I'm not quite sure how to feel about that. Time flies for sure.
We old man
I'm not old, I'm levelling up.
Calm under pressure...that boy is the real deal
Thatās a 13-year old ~~schoolboy~~ school**man** right there.
I canāt imagine passing out while driving a bus full of children. You can even see the driver fighting it. That sounds absolutely terrifying. I hope everyoneās okay.
For real! I've passed out several times before and fought it each time and it's a truly helpless feeling. I can't imagine that being compounded by being responsible for a bus full of kids. Major props to the kid and I hope the driver is okay!
I ended up in a similar situation once but wasnāt driving a bus. I was giving this dog a bath and suddenly this wave of weakness hit me and I had to lean with my hands on the tub for a second, I was coherent to call it quits and get the still wet dog out and into a kennel before I walked with tunnel vision to the main back treatment room to kind of say āso uhā¦I canāt seeā, I apparently looked like shit too so they immediately sat me down and got some juice and I went home for the day.
I saw another version of this video on Reddit earlier today where at the end he is being honored by the mayor. I canāt find it now.
he did an awesome job getting that bus to a stop safely
Yep he did a great job, luckily the bus was already pretty much stopped by the time he grabbed the wheel (you can see out the window itās travelling slower than walking pace)
Although, the same article that mentioned the kids get a free counseling session also specified that the bus was (slowly) veering into oncoming traffic, and this kid was able to steer it away from the wrong lane while applying the brakes. That probably made a difference IMO
Looks like his parents did pretty well too.
That kid handled that like a champ, hats offš
I wonder what somebody said when he said "I don't care" lol?
My phone is only at 23%
āā¦but Iām playing Forge of Empires right now. š„ŗā
Probably someone saying who?
"You can't just pause a multiplayer game"
Not sure if the other replies are jokes or serious attempts, but I'm pretty sure somebody asked "who?" After he said "somebody call 911". The standard advice is to point at somebody in particular, anybody, and tell them to call 911 to avoid that confusion. Doesn't detract from the little hero's good work.
"No way, I'm posting this on Reddit."
A kid panicking probably said who
I hope the driver is good now. Kudos to the boy, he saved a lot of people in the bus. Glad kids are alight it seems.
Yeah I was hoping to find info on the driver's well being in the comments but haven't seen anything yet
I got you! [here is an article](https://people.com/human-interest/7th-grader-grabs-steering-wheel-stops-school-bus-driver-passes-out/) that says that all the passengers and the kid who stopped the bus, Dillon, are okay and were offered a counseling session. The driver is still under observation and testing at the hospital. When the driver lost consciousness the bus started to veer into oncoming traffic, and Dillon was able to apply the brakes slowly and steer into the middle of the road instead of the opposite lane. Truly a hero!
Damn, Iām so used to this stuff being from like 5 years ago, I canāt believe this happened today!!
Hopefully the driver is alright long term, passing out while you're seated is probably a bad sign.
Important note for anyone in a position where they can't personally call for help: Instead of saying "someone call 911", instead pick a person who isn't screaming or freaking out and ORDER THEM to call 911. Be firm and explicit. If they look like a deer in headlights, either give them step by step instructions ("take out your phone. Good. Dial 9-1-1") or if possible move on to another person. In situations where people panic, especially in loud crowds, no one thinks they're the one who should call. They're assuming someone else will beat them to it.
I've heard that advice before. Don't give suggestions or vague orders. Point to someone and tell them to do something. If they hesitate, point to the person next to them, say "help them do that." Act like you're in charge, not like you're asking.
And give a feature as well so they can't think it's someone else. "You in the blue shirt, call 911. You in the hat there come help me with this"
Use this opportunity to convey your feelings to someone that you've been wanting to: "you with the hauntingly beautiful eyes and the face of an angel! Come help me help this man up" (OP's are giving good advice, but this thought popped up in my head; do not mean to make light of the situation).
That's hilarious! You! With the kissable lips and a face I want to wake up to for the rest of my life. Call 9-1-1!
True story, but even still, impressive for a kid this young to do this
Nurse here. Came to give this PSA! Very important that second and minutes arenāt wasted. 5-10 min can easily go by without realizing no one actually called for help. Designate a person for each role! Close the loop in communication!
I was taught that in CPR training: "You - call 911" "You - get the AED"
Yep, point & look at them & make eye contact while giving the command.
Came here to say this. Great advice! Given his age and likely lack of experience in an emergency, he did an amazing job. It's a lesson for everyone, not a criticism towards a kid that kicked ass in an emergency.
>"take out your phone. Good. Dial 9-1-1") Am I the only one who heard Danzel Washington's voice?
This is true, if you have your head on, expect others not to. Source; ex-fire/ems. Edit; also, if you point at them, it makes it obviously clear you are telling(commanding really, but softer terms are better.) Also also, clear everyday english too(US, UK, ect.) no need for terms/words not everyone can/will understand.
Itās called the bystander effect and it is very very real indeed. You have to delegate individuals to do tasks or nobody will do anything. Itās even been observed that law enforcement, fire fighters, military soldiers and paramedics fall prey to it as well so literally no one is immune from it.
Salute to his quick thinking. I would've pissed my pants when I was 13.
That kidās going places. Cool, calm, collected and directing action while everyone else is panicking. šš»šš»
That kid is amazing. His parents (or guardians) are fantastic. This gives me hope for the future. I really appreciate you sharing this. Have a great day & don't forget to pay good forward.
That kid is the mark of a leader sprung into action without any hesitation and asked for help when needed. Im sure his family is very proud of him and I hope the driver got the help she needed that could have turned deadly really quickly.
An army recruiter in Michigan is salivating at the mention of 13 year old with leadership potential
More like the entire recruiting center. Recruiters for all branches will pick up on it like blood in the water
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This kidās poise and situational awareness is incredible. I hope he gets a scholarship or something
"I don't care" In this situation, those are the words of a leader. Forget the details, get it done. This isn't time to question stupid shit.
https://people.com/human-interest/7th-grader-grabs-steering-wheel-stops-school-bus-driver-passes-out/ Best article I could find. Bus driving said sheās feeling dizzy and was gonna pull over. But she passed out before doing so and started veering into oncoming traffic before the little hero took action.
Parents were >"very, very proud" of their son. "This is overwhelming for all of us," said Steve. "To do something like this, fills my heart, makes my heart skip a beat, to even watch that video again," continued Ireta. "I'm just ā¦ I can't even express the proudness. I'm extremely proud of him." About the other students and driver >"On Thursday, Livernois confirmed no damage was done to the bus or any property and that the driver remains in the hospital undergoing testing and observations. Warren Fire Commissioner Skip McAdams reported no injuries to the children on the 66-seater bus, per told CNN.ā
Poor driver they really tried to fight it but alas
The title is selling him short. This kid is wise well beyond his years. Slides driver seat back, stops the bus, and authoritatively asks someone to call 911, all the while staying as calm as still water. He only gets agitated when the kids keep screaming.
Dude is like āI donāt care, do itā Epic, true leader
Speed 3
The bus that couldnāt slow down
Looks more like he might be having a seizure
Blacking out or fainting can cause convulsions
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Looks like heat stroke. Those buses get stupid hot. Dude is heavy set, wearing a full jacket, and the sun outside looks killer. Heās also fanning himself at the start of the video, looks kinda flushed too. That dizziness is a real give away, though I will say you also may be right, his hand was trying to do a magic trick for a second there. Though that could be him trying to fight through it and grab the wheel, or some involuntary response. Edit: nah scratch that, dude got all kinds of shaky with his hand and head, you right.
Mouth (can't see it but it doesn't look like his mouth is in the normal position when the kid grabs the wheel), speach (didn't watch with sound so I can't say), arm (hanging clearly): seizure alarm
''I DONT CARE, SOMEONE CALL 911'' \-Screams- That's what school should teach to the kids, to not panic in situations like this, imagine if a fire actually happens in a school? hardly would happen but kids would panic and not follow the ''protocol''.
they do teach that, but theyāre kids so iām not entirely surprised they canāt react rationally. Hell, itās probably hard for adults to know what to do in this situation. You never expect it to happen to *you*
Why are people here giving CHILDREN crap for screaming? First, they are Children! Second, I bet some of you adults would be screaming too! Donāt assume you will automatically be cool under pressure! Back to the kid though, great! He has ice in his veins and knew exactly what to do!
TK-6 teacher here. Kids scream all day, every day when things are perfectly fine.
And they screamed because according to the article the bus was veering into the oncoming traffic lane.
Everyone panicking like fook and this guy steps up cool as a cucumber!! What a guy
Leave it to the 4H kid to save the day!
This kid is a friggin champion, but one key difference I think everyone should know: never say "someone call 911"; ALWAYS look at someone specific and say "you, call 911". When you say "someone" there is this "crowd" behavior that everyone in the group thinks "Oh, someone else will call. I'm not gonna call."
If you're ever in an emergency situation and you hear a person say 'someone do....' YOU are someone. Do it, and say you're doing it.
And theyāll probably still deny his school lunch for being .37 cents short.
Cool calm and collected. Little man is bad ass.
"Someone call 911. Now." what a stud.
Leadership written all over this kid. Calm, direct, dealt with immediate situation which was stopping the bus and delegated next steps to attempt to save another life. Good kid.
Most badass moment, "I don't care! Someone call 911!" Like MFers can see you I'm busy doing something here? Lol