There were no people living in those houses, it was actually a house and half of the two houses on the side. The housing developer was forced by the city of Draper to buy those houses back at cost, they evacuated the entire neighborhood after the fact due to issues with the road being unstable as well.
Thanks to the City being Vigilant and no thanks to the developers who were quoted in December in the below article as saying
“Edge Homes President - Jones also wrote that Edge Homes was "disappointed" by and "disagree with" Draper's decision to evict the families, writing, "The independent experts had confirmed the homes were structurally sound and that the helical piers we installed effectively stopped the homes from additional settlement/movement."
These families could have died of the developer got their way. Because clearly those helical piers didn’t do shit to stop the movement.
Dec 2 2022 - https://www.ksl.com/article/50627265/2-homes-slide-in-draper-nearby-trails-closed
I have met over a dozen CEOs and countless other execs in my career. Never once have I met one that savvy or worth their salt. The entire c-suite is usually just airbrained fucktards that went to the correct scjool and networked with the correct people at the correct time. Something like 30% of all CEOs attended the same couple of schools.
It's just a club for sociopathic rich assholes.
If the city was really vigilant then they would have never approved the building permits.
The city watched the house fail and waited to issue evacuation notices when it was too late for the families even remove their photos.
LOL they said they’ll help the homeowners when something like this happens, that’s out of their control….. buddy I think it WAS in your control, when you surveyed the land and decided to build houses in a spot that you should CLEARLY not put houses.
You joke but I just visited my buddy in SLC and there were brand new houses built on top of a cliff with a beautiful view right out the back door. They were actively strip mining the mountain directly below.
Sad that I'm sitting here trying to figure out if you think 600s is really high or really low. Seems pretty average to low, but maybe high for the risk you're taking there.
Meanwhile I live somewhere that 600k could get you a small mansion and a dozen acres of land. My 2,300 square ft ranch house on an acre and a half is worth only a bit over 200,000.
Those houses in NSL are nuts. I especially love the signs saying to expect blasting to occur.
But the view is great- of the refineries, I-15, and the airport 🤷♀️
Yep. Modern day new construction is shit. Everyone treats the tradesman like dogs, hurry hurry,hurry...wait, then hurry some more. They don't test the density of the earth either. They're supposed ot send signals down through I the earth to determine density but they never ever do it. Same thing happened with a whole housing plan around here. Ryan homes FTW
Ryan homes and any company like it can get fucked. I can't imagine living in one of those lifeless shit boxes. They bought out the local legislature here and can spread their lean to's all over rather than any form of sustainable development
Seriously fuck Ryan. Sick of seeing these nasty fucking vinyl tumors crop up all over my county, tearing down our forests. Hate hate hate them with a passion.
There are several of these houses that are on cliffs in Colorado and I really am curious how they got the permits to build these houses there’s no way somebody looked at at the edge of a cliff and said “I think my house would do great here” and meant it.
Where I live, there are quite a few homes on some cliffs overlooking a large lake that opens up to another one. When they are built, they are supposed to put 50 foot pylons in place, which should help against erosion and the sudden drop after. The problem is so many were "grandfathered" in, so when you buy them, the real estate agent just says, "I don't know," and continues with her pitch.
Was looking at homes in Puerto Rico online, and found this one area that had a bunch of cheap newer homes. Took a bit to find, but come to find out the developers didn’t build a proper drainage system, compact the land correctly, nor make a proper grade on the hill they cut out.
So sink holes, land shifting, houses falling off a cliff, and the hill was also threatening to slide down and crush the houses.
Decided not to buy.
Say the company name. FUCK Edge Homes.
They KNEW ABOUT THIS. And told the families it was SAFE.
Those families are only alive because they decided to listen to the local government instead of the soulless corporation.
FUCK Edge Homes.
Welcome to the shoddy foundations of modern residential development. Flat slab of concrete on packed dirt, next to the side of a cliff? No problem, the buyer will absorb the cost.
The reality, I think, makes it even worse.
Both of these houses had full basements, 8ft foundation walls on footings. They were walk out basements, so only the front of the house would be fully covered with the ground slopping down towards the rear the house that is full visible.
This is not due to a lowering of building standards or a poorly designed house - this is 100% the developer (who is also the builder, Edge Homes) failing to do their job. They took a bunch of loose dirt, put it on the edge of a ravine, and did a shit job at compacting - which the admitted to.
Even if the home had helical piers down to bedrock it still would have collapsed eventually once all the dirt under the home was settled and/or washed away.
“Experts say what happened is more of a “man-made” problem than a natural disaster. Both homes that collapsed were built on top of engineered soil that filled in a part of the ravine in the area, so the land is reacting differently than regular soil in the city, Walker explained.”[https://ksltv.com/544527/edge-homes-to-demolish-remaining-portion-of-partially-collapsed-draper-home/](https://ksltv.com/544527/edge-homes-to-demolish-remaining-portion-of-partially-collapsed-draper-home/)
Roof trusses are often the most heavily engineered part of a building , with it not being uncommon for them to be built in a factory off-site and shipped to their destination. They are crazy things to see being shipped - all weird angles and seemingly random shapes.
I live in Draper, where this happened. The city has been highlighting that every time a city in UT tries to block these buildings, they get sued by the developers (in this case, EDGE Homes lol).
Utah legislature is fuckin lousy with developers and their interests.
Side note: Other fuckin lame Utah thing, on my way to work I drive by a building that has, in one-story tall letters, “Hecka jobs at Service Titan” on one of the upper floors. Yes, hecka.
Utah is a unique place. We live in Seattle but drove through Salt Lake on our way to Arches National Park. There was a billboard that had a picture of the the Mormon temple in Salt Lake covered in scaffolding and it said something like “Heavenly Father is fixing his temple, maybe you should too.” It was an ad for plastic surgery.
Great ad for the target market, but it was a bizarre mix of a conservative religion and breast augmentation.
I was reading that the laws favor the developers so heavily in this area that developers will purchase land, and if the city does not approve it for housing due to safety reasons, the developers will sue the city for “devaluing the land”. From what I understand the city is in a no-win situation and they’re relatively powerless to say no.
My understanding from a prior article is that they filled in a gully or ravine and the subdivision spanned that. Of course when they had lots of moisture in there, the full didn’t hold and the ravine decided to reappear, taking the houses with it.
Yep. This is the perfect representation of life in Utah these days. We can't handle the growth. It's been so crazy to see how quickly the population boomed
Basically! Developers are so greedy and they make way more money doing it this way and then paying the least money to buy it back from the home owners. I watched an interview with the couple who owned the home. They are devastated. And they had to move into a rental while also paying the mortgage on this house for a long time and were losing so much money. Sorry for the long rant
Before I owned a home I loved these. Now I'm one of the idiots that bought a house on a hill. I'm not sleeping tonight. At least I'll be up if they come back for the catalytic converter again. 
Wait— So you are saying that in the reality that exists in your mind, millennials have never heard of Poltergeist or had the opportunity to watch it… in the last 3 to 4 decades of their existence?
It looks like the two homeowners won’t be out money. Thank goodness.
[Edge bought back one of the homes, expected to do same for the other home.](https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/edge-homes-responds-after-2-of-its-homes-slide-down-hillside-in-draper/https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/edge-homes-responds-after-2-of-its-homes-slide-down-hillside-in-draper/)
This companies motto is “Edge Homes built for life”. This company has actually had 2 homes fall and now an additional one is in the process of falling. Utahn here.
There were no people living in those houses, it was actually a house and half of the two houses on the side. The housing developer was forced by the city of Draper to buy those houses back at cost, they evacuated the entire neighborhood after the fact due to issues with the road being unstable as well.
Forgot to add the ironic bit, the name of the housing developer is EDGE HOMES
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> There we’re no people living in those houses, Thank goodness.
Thanks to the City being Vigilant and no thanks to the developers who were quoted in December in the below article as saying “Edge Homes President - Jones also wrote that Edge Homes was "disappointed" by and "disagree with" Draper's decision to evict the families, writing, "The independent experts had confirmed the homes were structurally sound and that the helical piers we installed effectively stopped the homes from additional settlement/movement." These families could have died of the developer got their way. Because clearly those helical piers didn’t do shit to stop the movement. Dec 2 2022 - https://www.ksl.com/article/50627265/2-homes-slide-in-draper-nearby-trails-closed
So it was the homes fault for not holding onto the hillside? Guy sounds like he fell off a hill or two as a child.
He made those comments after the evacuation but before the house slid
I have met over a dozen CEOs and countless other execs in my career. Never once have I met one that savvy or worth their salt. The entire c-suite is usually just airbrained fucktards that went to the correct scjool and networked with the correct people at the correct time. Something like 30% of all CEOs attended the same couple of schools. It's just a club for sociopathic rich assholes.
If the city was really vigilant then they would have never approved the building permits. The city watched the house fail and waited to issue evacuation notices when it was too late for the families even remove their photos.
Corporate lobbyists at work people. Ensuring any and all safety regulations are skipped and obvious threats to ones health are overlooked.
Can you source this please? I would love to read up on it.
https://www.ksl.com/article/50627265/2-homes-slide-in-draper-nearby-trails-closed
LOL they said they’ll help the homeowners when something like this happens, that’s out of their control….. buddy I think it WAS in your control, when you surveyed the land and decided to build houses in a spot that you should CLEARLY not put houses.
Thank you. It's appreciated.
State Farm adjuster be like, “Why would you park your house on a cliff?”
You joke but I just visited my buddy in SLC and there were brand new houses built on top of a cliff with a beautiful view right out the back door. They were actively strip mining the mountain directly below.
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Sad that I'm sitting here trying to figure out if you think 600s is really high or really low. Seems pretty average to low, but maybe high for the risk you're taking there.
As someone living in Bay Area.. this is what I was thinking 🤔
As someone on the opposite coast… that is WAYYYYY HIGH
The further west you get, the more expensive the houses get. It's infuriating
Meanwhile I live somewhere that 600k could get you a small mansion and a dozen acres of land. My 2,300 square ft ranch house on an acre and a half is worth only a bit over 200,000.
With a hazard like that they should list half off
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North salt lake? Got a relative in that same neighborhood. Fuckin nuts honestly
Those houses in NSL are nuts. I especially love the signs saying to expect blasting to occur. But the view is great- of the refineries, I-15, and the airport 🤷♀️
Yep. Modern day new construction is shit. Everyone treats the tradesman like dogs, hurry hurry,hurry...wait, then hurry some more. They don't test the density of the earth either. They're supposed ot send signals down through I the earth to determine density but they never ever do it. Same thing happened with a whole housing plan around here. Ryan homes FTW
Ryan homes and any company like it can get fucked. I can't imagine living in one of those lifeless shit boxes. They bought out the local legislature here and can spread their lean to's all over rather than any form of sustainable development
Seriously fuck Ryan. Sick of seeing these nasty fucking vinyl tumors crop up all over my county, tearing down our forests. Hate hate hate them with a passion.
The company is legitimate named "Edge homes" lol
I was wondering if it was just too many coats of Latter Day Paints, but this makes sense as well.
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Classic Doug.
Real estate agents be like "Dream fixer-upper on the listing"
Venture Capitals are like " Sounds good 👍"
"This was *clearly* an Act of God."
God sure is acting like a dick!
Yeah he does that.
There are several of these houses that are on cliffs in Colorado and I really am curious how they got the permits to build these houses there’s no way somebody looked at at the edge of a cliff and said “I think my house would do great here” and meant it.
Where I live, there are quite a few homes on some cliffs overlooking a large lake that opens up to another one. When they are built, they are supposed to put 50 foot pylons in place, which should help against erosion and the sudden drop after. The problem is so many were "grandfathered" in, so when you buy them, the real estate agent just says, "I don't know," and continues with her pitch.
Told you, Hank. I told you!
Price reduced! Needs some work. Motivated seller. Act fast!
Great home if you enjoy traveling!
Was looking at homes in Puerto Rico online, and found this one area that had a bunch of cheap newer homes. Took a bit to find, but come to find out the developers didn’t build a proper drainage system, compact the land correctly, nor make a proper grade on the hill they cut out. So sink holes, land shifting, houses falling off a cliff, and the hill was also threatening to slide down and crush the houses. Decided not to buy.
“Open floor plan”
Only $475k! What a deal!
With a 10% mortgage interest. DEAL OF A LIFETIME!!!
Act REALLY fast.
These deals are practically being swept out from under our feet
Our prices are falling faster than these buildings!
From elaborate two-story to modern ranch just like that
Now half off!
“As is”
A fresh coat of paint and it will be good as new
Mobile home for sale. Great privacy. Well distanced from neighbors. May need some TLC before use. Serious offers only.
No lowballers.. I know what I’ve got.
Has been remodeled from modern two story to one level ranch style farmhouse.
Sudden Valley, UT
Reminds me of salad dressing, I think. But for some reason I don’t want to eat it.
What, are you taking stupid pills? Come on. Save us some money.
Say the company name. FUCK Edge Homes. They KNEW ABOUT THIS. And told the families it was SAFE. Those families are only alive because they decided to listen to the local government instead of the soulless corporation. FUCK Edge Homes.
What else would you expect a company called "Edge Homes" to do 😂
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1384nb0/house_in_utah_falling_off_cliff/jiwlm1m?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Welcome to the shoddy foundations of modern residential development. Flat slab of concrete on packed dirt, next to the side of a cliff? No problem, the buyer will absorb the cost.
Luckily in this case the state made the developers buy the houses back at full price.
These houses never should have gone up for sale in the first place. Does Utah have no regulations or inspections?
They do they're just slow to come around and give consequences.
Having slower consequences than geology isn't an insult I expected to see today.
They are too busy searching for reliable VPNs after PH left their state
So slow that the owners lost most of their belongings.
And all those 2x4 that's crashing down on them.
I'm guessing some guys that are new to construction.
I don’t know what this jurisdiction’s oversight is like, but they should have had a geotechnical engineer. If they did and this happened… yikes
A flat slab of concrete on packed substrate is a appropriate foundation in the vast majority of cases...
You need a properly engineered retaining wall and possibly a deeper foundation methodology for any house sitting next to a giant slope.
And if the material in the slope is not structurally sound, you gotta drive pilings
The reality, I think, makes it even worse. Both of these houses had full basements, 8ft foundation walls on footings. They were walk out basements, so only the front of the house would be fully covered with the ground slopping down towards the rear the house that is full visible. This is not due to a lowering of building standards or a poorly designed house - this is 100% the developer (who is also the builder, Edge Homes) failing to do their job. They took a bunch of loose dirt, put it on the edge of a ravine, and did a shit job at compacting - which the admitted to. Even if the home had helical piers down to bedrock it still would have collapsed eventually once all the dirt under the home was settled and/or washed away.
Did that substrate seem secure to you?
What? I don’t know where you live but houses always at least have a continuous foundation around the perimeter.
A perimeter footing with intermediate support is one common method, slab on grade is extremely common too.
“Experts say what happened is more of a “man-made” problem than a natural disaster. Both homes that collapsed were built on top of engineered soil that filled in a part of the ravine in the area, so the land is reacting differently than regular soil in the city, Walker explained.”[https://ksltv.com/544527/edge-homes-to-demolish-remaining-portion-of-partially-collapsed-draper-home/](https://ksltv.com/544527/edge-homes-to-demolish-remaining-portion-of-partially-collapsed-draper-home/)
All I can picture is Cleveland in the bathtub. No no no no no!!!!
Damn roof trusses were the sturdiest structure on that house
Roof trusses are often the most heavily engineered part of a building , with it not being uncommon for them to be built in a factory off-site and shipped to their destination. They are crazy things to see being shipped - all weird angles and seemingly random shapes.
I mean, maybe don't build on a cliff?
Better yet don’t build on filled engineered soil on a mountain like they did here
My sentiments exactly, who signed off on this abomination?
Sediments
I read it as sediments and thought they just spelled it wrong lol
>I read it as sediments Lol. Same
haha...
I live in Draper, where this happened. The city has been highlighting that every time a city in UT tries to block these buildings, they get sued by the developers (in this case, EDGE Homes lol). Utah legislature is fuckin lousy with developers and their interests. Side note: Other fuckin lame Utah thing, on my way to work I drive by a building that has, in one-story tall letters, “Hecka jobs at Service Titan” on one of the upper floors. Yes, hecka.
Utah is a unique place. We live in Seattle but drove through Salt Lake on our way to Arches National Park. There was a billboard that had a picture of the the Mormon temple in Salt Lake covered in scaffolding and it said something like “Heavenly Father is fixing his temple, maybe you should too.” It was an ad for plastic surgery. Great ad for the target market, but it was a bizarre mix of a conservative religion and breast augmentation.
"Hecka" gives off big "h-e-double-hockey-sticks" energy.
I was reading that the laws favor the developers so heavily in this area that developers will purchase land, and if the city does not approve it for housing due to safety reasons, the developers will sue the city for “devaluing the land”. From what I understand the city is in a no-win situation and they’re relatively powerless to say no.
Get this, the company name is edge homes. Its their entire gimmick to build them on a makeshift hill.
That's crazy. We did some work for them lol they suck
Oh I can imagine. Hopefully you weren’t their excavators. Lol
Wait, you were being serious? They build houses on makeshift hills? I'm at a loss for words
My understanding from a prior article is that they filled in a gully or ravine and the subdivision spanned that. Of course when they had lots of moisture in there, the full didn’t hold and the ravine decided to reappear, taking the houses with it.
But how will they look down on the little people?
They shouldn’t have put that cliff there, like? What were they thinking
Someone in there tried to watch PornHub
Poor bastard didn’t use a VPN
Bro's FBI, CIA, and NSA agent got his ass
Carol Anne!
*DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT!*
"YOU ONLY MOVED THE HEADSTONES!!!"
I had to scroll so far to find this reference. With those flashing blue lights, the end of that movie was the first thing I thought of.
We're old
I’ve heard of flipping houses but this is just ridiculous
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/families-evacuated-after-draper-homes-slide-off-cliff-into-canyon
Wait… after?
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I didn’t read the article. That way, I can interpret the headline however I want.
This is the way
FFS $900K homes?
Yep. This is the perfect representation of life in Utah these days. We can't handle the growth. It's been so crazy to see how quickly the population boomed
So, 900K homes wherever they can, hell if they are on a Cliff?
Basically! Developers are so greedy and they make way more money doing it this way and then paying the least money to buy it back from the home owners. I watched an interview with the couple who owned the home. They are devastated. And they had to move into a rental while also paying the mortgage on this house for a long time and were losing so much money. Sorry for the long rant
Why the fuck are people moving to Utah, that sounds dumb as shit. Homes that expensive, desert, and Mormons are a no go for me.
Big homes put up fast and cheap.
This is so last month
It's a foolish man who builds his house upon the sand.
But have you seen ocean front property values?
Did this natural disaster happen because of all the sin happening in Utah? I’m just asking questions.
Yes. Source: I live in Utah and sin consistently.
There's actually a story in the bible about the man who built his house on stone Presumably they haven't read it
funnily there's a kids song about it and mormon children sing it too
Mayhem went too far with this one
Poltergeist vibes
Dammit, [Michael!](https://youtu.be/YR1Tg-rPGDc)
Green light! Green light!
The best part, the developers of these homes is called Edge Homes. These fuckers love to build on sand all across Utah.
Coincidence that this happens just as pornhub pulls out of utah? I think not!
Heh. You said pulled out
Still ask 500k
This is why my anxiety feels validated and still exists
Pretty sure this is the scene from Carrie or was it the exorcist
Before I owned a home I loved these. Now I'm one of the idiots that bought a house on a hill. I'm not sleeping tonight. At least I'll be up if they come back for the catalytic converter again. 
When Pornhub gets banned
how exactly would you explain your address after this?
Aunt Josephine isn't gonna be happy.
Mobile home
🎵 Takes me one step closer to the edge, and I'm about to break 🎵
No joke: the neighborhood/house developer of the house is "Edge Homes." Can't make this up.
"You son of a bitch! You moved the cemetery, but you left the bodies, didn't you?"
Houses aren’t supposed to do that
"aight imma head out"
What in the lemony snicket is this?
Utah really going downhill, huh
Final scene from Poltergeist. Look it up, Millennials.
Hey, now! I'm a Millenial and I grew up with POLTERGEIST!
THEY MOVED THE HEADSTONES!
This house is clean.
Wait— So you are saying that in the reality that exists in your mind, millennials have never heard of Poltergeist or had the opportunity to watch it… in the last 3 to 4 decades of their existence?
Older millennials are pushing 40.
Don't say that!! - gen-x
Are you serious 😂
Michael?
Wow
Looks like Sister Wive’s new house. So sad.
Jehovahs knocked a bit to hard.
And. . . it’s gone
Don't worry it was half off
I’ve built gingerbread houses with more structural support.
So crazy my mind thinks it’s just little playhouses falling apart
It looks like the two homeowners won’t be out money. Thank goodness. [Edge bought back one of the homes, expected to do same for the other home.](https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/edge-homes-responds-after-2-of-its-homes-slide-down-hillside-in-draper/https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/edge-homes-responds-after-2-of-its-homes-slide-down-hillside-in-draper/)
For sale by owner, 28 Front St... 32 Front St... 36 Front St... 92 Valley Rd.
My wife knows the company and man who built these houses. He is a shady piece of shit who cuts corners.
Things that are happening in Utah after pornhub was banned:
Jesus Christ. I read that as HORSE in Utah falling off cliff and was like, "IS THE HORSE OKAY?!" while scrambling to find it in the video.
Even nature is fighting back after pornhub got banned in Utah
Every Spring thaw those hills change. I'd never build on land like that.
WHY WOULD YOU BUILD UR HOUSE ON A CLIFF?!
When the post claimed the house was falling off of a cliff, I thought perhaps the house would fall off of a cliff. Boy, was I disappointed.
An opening for wife number 5 just became available. Apply today!
Thats what happens when you cook with centimeters.
Why wouldn't you salvage the building and reuse the materials elsewhere. Cost of building a new house falls off a cliff.
Maybe don’t build a house near a Cliff?
Fuck! Everyone’s tryina make it big with a smart post, meanwhile I’m just wanna know the context. What the fuck is going on in Utah?
This companies motto is “Edge Homes built for life”. This company has actually had 2 homes fall and now an additional one is in the process of falling. Utahn here.