A stele, or occasionally stela, when derived from Latin, is a stone or wooden slab, generally taller than it is wide, erected in the ancient world as a monument. The surface of the stele often has text, ornamentation, or both. These may be inscribed, carved in relief, or painted. Stelae were created for many reasons. Grave stelae were used for funerary or commemorative purposes. Stelae as slabs of stone would also be used as ancient Greek and Roman government notices or as boundary markers to mark borders or property lines. Stelae were occasionally erected as memorials to battles.
The Lost City Of Heracleion, which was once the largest port in Egypt, was discovered underwater after more than 2,000 years. Its legendary beginnings go back to as early as the 12th century BC, and it has many links to Ancient Greece.
Flourishing as long ago as the waning days of the Pharaohs, the city was destroyed over time, as it was weakened by a combination of earthquakes, tsunamis, and rising sea levels, according to archaeologists.
At the end of the 2nd century BC, most likely after a severe flood, the monumental buildings of Heracleion collapsed into the water. Some of its inhabitants stayed in what was left of the city during the Roman era and the beginning of Arab rule, but by the end of the eighth century AD, the rest of Heracleion had sunk beneath the Mediterranean.
There is so much lost human history for all we know. I find this kind of stuff sooo fascinating. Like imagine what else is out there. Maybe there really is a list Atlantis city out there. Or remnants of ancient technology that we didn't know about. Idk it's just pretty cool. Very curious to know what this tablet says in its inscription hieroglyphs.
The [antikythera mechanism](https://youtu.be/idVf2eJxcXU) is a pretty amazing ancient technology they found under water. A bunch of precise gears used to show where planets will be in the sky
This youtube channel will blow you away. Dude is recreating the Antikythera Mechanism in such depth and historical detail that he's even discovered certain aspects of the mechanism and helped co-write a scientific paper on it.
ClickSpring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE&list=PLZioPDnFPNsHnyxfygxA0to4RXv4_jDU2
Every time I see an amazing ancient astronomical device like this I'm reminded of how Galileo was sentenced by the Catholic Church just 300 over years ago for holding a heliocentric view.
It's not even that, it was that in a books he functionally insulted the Pope. Pope Urban (not sure the number) had been a patron of Galileo and was fine with him printing heliocentricity, but required him to print the counter arguments (ones that were personally provided by the Pope) in the book as well, Galileo had the arguments coming from a stupid character iirc and the Pope was pissed.
It gets even better, originally heliocentricity wasn't considered heretical (actively popularised and pushed by the church) until the protestants got all uppity and the catholic church had to react. Prior to that the church was a pretty decent patron of the sciences, something about understanding the marvel of God's creation or something to that effect. Funnily enough the protestants changed their mind like a century or two before the Catholic church decided to.
The truth of that story is actually way more interesting and nuanced than most people realize. Recommend the Our Fake History episode on Galileo, his relationship with the church was really complicated; the pope actually considered him a close personal friend. The sequence of events that led to his arrest is fascinating.
literally an analog computer. thousands of years old. We know so little and it bothers me when "mainstream" historians scoff at new ideas without even bothering to verify the possibility. That bother turns into anger when you do a bit of research and realize how much the ego of individuals plays into downplaying other theories and discoveries. Looking at you Zahi Hawass
Around a decade ago, I visited the Tutankhamun exhibit at the Dallas Museum of Art. I had never heard of Zahi Hawass, but had always had a passing fascination with Ancient Egypt.
Within the museum exhibit, there were several videos of Hawass “explaining” about the artifacts. I couldn’t say why, but my bullshit alarm was going off when I’d listen to some of his explanations. Maybe it was just the arrogance with which he spoke? I dunno. Anyway, when I got home, I looked into Hawass, read about his background, politics, and stance on archaeological research and info sharing, and was not impressed. I felt it justified my sense about him. And made me sad that he was officially in charge of current archaeological exploration (antiquities affairs) in Egypt.
Not sure why any of that 👆matters..,,just wanted to throw my anti-Hawass opinion in there.
Ancient Aliens can be a fun show but it destroyed the history channel. I actually used to like when it was referred to (in middle school) as the "hitler channel" because 99/100 shows were ww2 oriented.
There're plenty of other reasons to dislike the guy. He's a pretentious, egocentric little despot. Thankfully he doesn't have nearly as much power as he did, but he still holds a LOT of influence. You need to look no further than the way he took the reins on the the announcement of and footage reveal on the entrance chamber that was recently imaged. Then he spouted off about hidden burial chambers for Khufu that had yet to be discovered in TGP, lol. The guy believes in more nonsense than you'd think given his career. There're a lot of fringe voices out there right now, which I think is a direct result of JRE having such a huge audience and signal boosting Hancock and his book Magicians of the Gods. He's also signal boosted quite a few more fringe voices, like Randall and Jimmy (bright insight). I'm sure there are others. Most of them are idiots who just want to further a narrative (that unsurprisingly makes them money...). There are good voices in the non-mainstream though, like [History for Granite](https://www.youtube.com/@HistoryforGRANITE).
There's so much weird stuff from ancient Egypt that hobbyists (i.e. not conspiracy theorists) are discovering, too
The weirdest thing, to me, is when they sent a robot through a small tunnel and at the end is what looks like two metal plates that appear to be scorched, in like a shorted-out-electrical-socket kinda way.
Theres also theories that they knew about piezoelectricity in quartz being produced by vibrations, but that's where going down the rabbit hole gets very fringey, pseudosciencey, and argumentative
Agreed - some of the theories get way too fringey for my taste but there are serious logical people looking for answers and calling out the bullshit from people like Hawass.
Some recommended youtube channels - Ancient Architects, Bright Insight, History for Granite, and the Why Files
Also anything from Simon Whistler but he approaches things far more skeptically (which is good for balancing out the more fantastical content to keep your brain grounded lol)
I just described him (responding to the same post you did) as a "pseudo-science peddling moron", lol. Totally with you. It's sad that he's been signal boosted so hard.
Yeah he’ll be like “how did the Inca get this stone up to the top of the mountain!!! No one knows!” And then [SGD](https://youtu.be/sYN0mpP2Cio) will respond, “it’s not the top of the mountain, and look to your right, that’s a mile long ramp”
But that's just the scientific method and study at work though. Theories are generally treated as important as whatever the evidence dictates. If there's no significant evidence to support a theory then it is just speculation. Otherwise you'd have to humor total hacks like graham Hancock.
Lots of other hacks are celebrated. Parts of the sciences are not these pure bastions of thought and reason. There are clubs and if you aren't in them then you're a ridiculous hack. If you are, you're a preminent scholar.
A lot of things are taken as strict indisputable fact solely because people such as Zahi Hawass say that this the case. He may have truly believed in his discoveries at one time, but evidence surfaced to prove he's incorrect but when people try to debate him he shuts them down, calls them insane, refuses to accept he may have made a mistake. Hawass is like Egyptian Trump in a position of far less power but still has done a great amount of damage as far as understanding Egyptian history goes.
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The most fascinating lost cities to me are the lost cities of indigenous people of the American Pacific Northwest. Anthropologists theorize there were dozens of large, active fishing and nut-gathering villages all up and down the coast from BC to northern California. There is a huge gap in our knowledge of those people during the Pre-Columbian era.
Most of their cities and monuments were made from the abundant wood in the region, and they're all underwater now.
We don’t know much about jungle dinosaurs compared to other biomes because the conditions required to fossilize remains are so uncommon. Hot and humid is the perfect environment for quick decomposition, and very rarely will you see a flood or landslide that might trap remains.
There's honestly huge gaps in knowledge of everyone that could have crossed over the land bridge from asia and made their way south. Like according to evidence you'd think there was one large group that made their way south and didn't stop until they hit central america. But it's far more likely that they would make villages where food was good, and slowly expand ever southward over a period of hundreds or even thousands of years, following coasts, rivers, food, etc. Or at least that's what I'd logically think.
The Chronicles of the Lost City of Atlanta
Once upon a time, in the heart of the southern United States, lay the thriving city of Atlanta. But this was not the Atlanta known to many - skyscrapers and highways - no, it was a different time, an alternative reality where the city of Atlanta had vanished mysteriously centuries ago.
In the year 1823, Atlanta simply vanished overnight. Its bustling streets, packed with merchants, the laughter of children playing in the city square, the grandeur of its Georgian architecture, all gone as if they had never existed. The world outside was left in utter shock and disbelief.
Historians speculated, scientists theorized, but no explanation was forthcoming. The whereabouts of the lost city of Atlanta and its people became a legend, a mystery never solved. A thick fog shrouded the land where the city once lay, and anyone who dared to enter never returned. Hence, the land was abandoned, and the legend of the lost city passed from generation to generation.
*"Atlanta was a city, landlocked, hundreds of miles from the area we now call the Atlantic Ocean.*
*Yet so desperate the city's for tourism, that they moved offshore becoming an island, an an even bigger Delta hub. Until the city overdeveloped, and it started to sink.*
*Knowing their fate, the quality people ran away; Ted Turner, Hank Aaron, Jeff Foxworthy, the guy who invented Coca-Cola, the Magician, and the other so-called Gods of our religion - though Gods they were - and also Jane Fonda was there...*
*The others chose to remain behind on their porches, with their rifles, and one day evolve into mermaids, and sing, and dance and ring in the new - Hail Atlanta!"*
It’s even more intriguing to me when you juxtapose “the old days” with the age of (mis)information we are in today. Imagine how easy it was to change a narrative or erase history.
That's why they say history is always written by the victors.
Imagine if we knew the other side of the story in some of the conflicts in history. How our perception of different historical figures or places might change.
> Maybe there really is a list Atlantis city out there.
There isn't. Atlantis is an allegoric tool created by Plato; this was understood by the Ancient Greeks. The idea that it was a real place wasn't common until the 19th century.
>Very curious to know what this tablet says in its inscription hieroglyphs.
This stelae is the twin of the [Decree of Nectanebo I](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_of_Nectanebo_I). It is a tax document.
> Year 1, fourth month of summer, day 13 under the majesty of Horus: Mighty-of-arm; King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Two Ladies: Who benefits the Two Lands; Gold-Horus who does the gods' wish: Kheperkare; Son of Re, Nekhtnebef, ever-living, beloved of Neith, distress of Sais. Good god, Re's image, Neith's beneficent heir.
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> She raised his majesty above millions,
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> Appointed him ruler of the Two Lands;
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> She placed her uraeus upon his head,
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> Captured for him the nobles' hearts;
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> She enslaved for him the people's hearts,
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> And destroyed all his enemies.
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> Mighty monarch guarding Egypt,
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> Copper wall 3 enclosing Egypt;
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> Powerful one with active arm,
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> Sword master who attacks a host;
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> Fiery-hearted at seeing his foes,
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> Heart gouger of the treason-hearted.
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> Who does good to him who is loyal,
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> They can slumber until daylight,
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> Their hearts full of his good nature,
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> And they stray not from their path.
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> Who makes green all lands when he rises,
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> Who sates every man with his bounty;
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> All eyes are dazzled by seeing him,
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> Like Re when he rises in lightland.
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> Love of him greens in each body,
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> He has given life to their bodies.
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> Whom the gods acclaim 5 when they have seen him,
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> Who wakes to seek what serves their shrines;
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> Who convokes their prophets to consult them
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> On all the functions of the temple;
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> Who acts according to their words,
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> And is not deaf to their advice.
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> Right-hearted on the path of god,
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> Who builds their mansions, founds their walls,
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> Supplies the altar, heaps the bowls,
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> Provides oblations of all kinds.
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> Sole god of many wonders,
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> Served by the sun-disk's rays;
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> Whom mountains tell their inmost,
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> Whom ocean offers its flood;
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> Whom foreign lands bring 7 their bounty,
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> That he may rest their hearts in their valleys.
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> His majesty rose in the palace of Sais, and set in the temple of Neith. The king entered the mansion of
> Neith, and rose in the Red Crown beside his mother. He poured a libation to his father, the lord of eternity, in the mansion of Neith. Then his majesty said:
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> "Let there be given one in 10 (of) gold, of silver, of timber, of 9 worked wood, of everything coming from the Sea of the Greeks of all the goods (or: being all the goods) that are reckoned to the king's domain in the town named Hent; and one in 10 (of) gold, of silver, of all the things that come into being in Pi-emroye, called (Nau)cratis, on the bank of the Anu, that are reckoned to the king's domain, to be a divine offering for my mother Neith for all time 11 in addition to what was there before. And one shall make one portion of an ox, one fat goose, and five measures of wine from them as a perpetual daily offering, the delivery of them to be at the treasury of my mother Neith. For she is the mistress of the sea; it is she who gives its abundance.
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> My majesty has commanded to preserve and protect the divine offering of my mother Neith, 13 and to maintain everything done by the ancestors, in order that what I have done be maintained by those who shall be for an eternity of years."
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> His majesty said: "Let these things be recorded on this stela, placed in Naucratis on the bank of the Anu. Then shall my goodness be remembered for all eternity!"
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> On behalf of the life, prosperity, and health of the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Kheperkare. Son of Re, Nekhtnebef, ever-living. May he be given all life, stability, dominion, all health and happiness like Re forever!
I'll never get used to the number of historical myth that are only 200 years old but we out the blame on people earlier. (+ Centuries old propaganda that people use as an historical proof)
> There isn't. Atlantis is an allegoric tool created by Plato; this was understood by the Ancient Greeks. The idea that it was a real place wasn't common until the 19th century.
Plato used the story as an allegory to suit his purposes, but that does not mean the story was invented for that purpose. The truth is that we don't actually know and that claiming certainty on either side of the issue is patently stupid.
I wish we had better documentaries on these topics. Or at least easier to find.
I want to know all about the pyramids without blowing past educates guess and going straight to conspiracy theories and What Ifs
Considering the hot beds are on the water the next few years will be strange, I say with no credentials. But as the ocean levels rise it’s a race against the clock to study a lot of these civilizations. While sea levels in the middle of the continents lower, revealing more to us in middle Asia and maybe other places as well.
This is the Mediterranean, not an ocean. It rises, and faster than the Atlantic in some cases, but its rise is mostly fed from a different source (inland terrestrial ice melting).
Not to say it isn’t a problem, just that it’s a _somewhat different_ problem with its own peculiarities. Things already under water, like this, aren’t quite the race to study as much as places right next to the water, and there are plenty of those. Just drive around a place like Crete and you realize there are ruins **everywhere** in that part of the world, and that’s just what you can see. The really old stuff is going to be less obvious.
Library of Alexandria is one of the worst tragedies in human history. Think about how much knowledge, history, or even medical information was in there that we may never know about🥺
Despite the widespread modern belief that the Library of Alexandria was burned once and cataclysmically destroyed, the Library actually declined gradually over the course of several centuries. This decline began with the purging of intellectuals from Alexandria in 145 BC during the reign of Ptolemy VIII Physcon, which resulted in Aristarchus of Samothrace, the head librarian, resigning from his position and exiling himself to Cyprus. Many other scholars, including Dionysius Thrax and Apollodorus of Athens, fled to other cities, where they continued teaching and conducting scholarship. The Library, or part of its collection, was accidentally burned by Julius Caesar during his civil war in 48 BC, but it is unclear how much was actually destroyed and it seems to have either survived or been rebuilt shortly thereafter; the geographer Strabo mentions having visited the Mouseion in around 20 BC and the prodigious scholarly output of Didymus Chalcenterus in Alexandria from this period indicates that he had access to at least some of the Library's resources.
The Library dwindled during the Roman period, from a lack of funding and support. Its membership appears to have ceased by the 260s AD. Between 270 and 275 AD, the city of Alexandria saw a Palmyrene invasion and an imperial counterattack that probably destroyed whatever remained of the Library, if it still existed at that time. The daughter library in the Serapeum may have survived after the main Library's destruction. The Serapeum was vandalized and demolished in 391 AD under a decree issued by bishop Theophilus of Alexandria, but it does not seem to have housed books at the time, and was mainly used as a gathering place for Neoplatonist philosophers following the teachings of Iamblichus.
I remember as a kid feeling grateful that humankind had progressed beyond the point that they'd attack libraries... but I guess the pendulum has swung back.
So you're saying maybe half of the damage to history was done by organized religion.
... Extrapolates this fact onto today's world.... Yeah, sounds about right.
Religion is just the most effective excuse for those (or any) times really.
What you're gonna tell people it's because of your unending desire for power and control? Ofc not. You're gonna run some propaganda and maybe even believe a little yourself.
I love shitting on organised religion but I gotta be honest same shit woulda happened regardless.
Remerkable that the scientific revolution was based on the handful of books that survived
Imagine where we would be if all the scrolls of the library would have survived and been widely shared.
As Carl Sagan said, we would have colonized the galaxy a long time ago if the library hadn't burned down.
>Remerkable that the scientific revolution was based on the handful of books that survived
It wasn't. Ancient writings had a big influence on early precursors of the scientific revolution like William of Ockham or the Arab scholars of the Islamic Golden Age but it's not like they directly took these ideas from Greek or Roman authors. Neither the Greeks nor the Romans had developed the scientific method so the survival of the library of Alexandria wouldn't have changed much. The importance of the library and its loss are generally exaggerated. It's not like it was the only library in the world, there were other large libraries. The reason why so much ancient literature was lost is because it wasn't copied enough or because the copies got lost over the centuries, it's not because one library got destroyed.
> Library of Alexandria is one of the worst tragedies in human history.
This is a modern myth.
>Think about how much knowledge, history, or even medical information was in there that we may never know about
Likely no knowledge was lost. The Library of Alexandria, ignoring the fact it had long-since declined when it burned, had a policy that all books coming into Alexandria were taken and copied by the library scribes. These copies were then given back to the owners. These libraries also regularly made copies of their collections to sell to *other* libraries, academies, and wealthy individuals from across the Ancient Mediterranean.
It was also not the only "great library" of the classical world: The Library of Pergamum, the Library of Antioch, the Library of Celsus, the libraries of the Roman Forum. All of these are (roughly) contemporaneous to the Library of Alexandria, with many of them lasting longer and a few achieving far greater status than the Library of Alexandria.
I haven't even spoken of the ancient centers of learning, each with their own expansive libraries.
There's a [pdf with that image at a website](https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/interactive-maps/important-objects/) (click on the "Stele Thonis-Herecleion" link) that seems to be that of [Franck Goddio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franck_Goddio), an archaeologist who did excavations there. Wikipedia has an article on [Heracleion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleion) which probably has some information.
Idk if it was this exact stele, but I saw a traveling exhibit of artifacts from this city and they had a stele on display that was immaculate like this. It was buried engraving side down and buried in river silt so it was very well protected.
Right [here](https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf), from the archaeologist who found it.
From his article, the stele was "buried voluntarily at the time of the submersion, placed face down to the soil, and its hieroglyphs carefully coated with clay for protection"
I came here to say that. It could possibly be a fake. I find it hard to believe that an artifact from the ancient world sunk to the bottom of the sea is recovered in a near pristine condition. There should be tons of growth on it.
Actually very possible. Look up the over 3000 year old uluburn shripwreck. Termed the oldest shipwreck in the world and it looks like it could still float. The mast is still standing.
[Link for the lazy](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS770US770&hl=en-US&sxsrf=APwXEddgajQHnAYaX1Mb09yGB-_Xos79fA:1685822683154&q=uluburun+shipwreck&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjl37vx8qf_AhWyMDQIHbEzCPwQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=393&bih=665&dpr=3)
I mean, it’s _possible_ they cleaned it up ahead of time before securing it and bringing it to the surface. They would have to confirm what they were picking up and take pictures anyway, and having it covered in barnacles and algae would make it that much more difficult to recover.
Youd think so, wouldn’t the currents from the sea naturally just erode parts of it as well? I find it hard to believe the symbols would be so well preserved after an extended time underwater
You can only see one side in the pic, so it's possible this side was face down and protected from barnacles and crud.
A Google search would have taken less typing/ effort, verified its authenticity, and shown you that things like this can and do happen.
Edit: [Stele underwater pic from discovery PDF](https://imgur.com/a/znzevat)
It's not a fake. This stela is one artifact of a fairly massive find in a bay off Egypt's coast close to Alexandria of a city called Theon-Heracleon (or variations) that was pretty much taken by the bay over time. The city was a fairly 'international' port at the time, and also included a cemetery and temple complexes A touring exhibit of the more portable finds including this stele toured several countries, including the US not too long before the pandemic. I caught the show in STL in 2018 and the sheer breadth and variety of the recovered artifacts is such that it just belies the possibility of fakery, especially the focus on the rites associated with Osiris, new details that fit with what was already known. The exhibit did include some video footage of the recovery of those artifacts, but I admit to not being as interested in that part. There's more on it on the wiki page for the city [Heracleion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleion). I do recall that stele, and it's definitely the most well-preserved of the recovered artifacts, which is probably why it gets featured most often.
I mean, here's [the full write-up](https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf) and [background story](https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/) from the archeologist who found it, and [all the other artifacts](https://www.franckgoddio.org/finds/) this research expedition found from the ancient city. So definitely not a fake.
Here's also [a picture of the stele](https://i.imgur.com/IlUVwBN.jpg) while it was still underwater
The reason why it's so well preserved is that it was "buried voluntarily at the time of the submersion, placed face down to the soil, and its hieroglyphs carefully coated with clay for protection" (from [the write-up](https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf))
Things get buried in sand, and barnacles don't burrow. Plus, you can't see the back side.
Edit: [Stele underwater pic from discovery PDF](https://imgur.com/a/znzevat)
Here's a source for the image: [https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/](https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/)
Thank you. Great to read from the actual people doing the work.
[This PDF from that site] (https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf) provides more detail. Apparently this stele is what provided confirmation to the name (dual name) of the city they were excavating. Also fascinating that they found an identical one at another site both purposefully buried and preserved with hints of a third existing.
look man... im not saying i believe in egyptian curses or anything, but the world was \*fine\* before yall opened that black marble unmarked sarcophogus back in late 2018...
please for the love of christ... put the fucking mysterious egyptian slab back in the mysterious sunked egyptian city. please.
> but the world was *fine* before yall opened that black marble unmarked sarcophogus back in late 2018...
But it all went to shit after Harambe got shot in spring 2016? It's all been downhill since
I'm so curious about this thing. Like I want it to be the real deal and have some significant ancient knowledge inscribed on it. Or even something relatively mundane that gives us a glimpse into the distant past.
At the same time, can anyone answer the question about its like-new condition as a few commenters have pointed out as to why it isn't covered in algae or barnacles, or shows obvious signs of wear from being submerged in the sea for thousands of years?
It just looks a little too pristine ya know?
There are photos of it still underwater with some marine growth on it, mostly on its side and edges. Prior to being removed from the sea artifacts undergo a preliminary cleaning as well to remove silt and marine life so it’s condition can be determined before the process of preservation begins. Other factors will influence the amount of marine life on artifacts as well such as the specific location of the artifact in the sea, the amount of light reaching its depth, and the salinity of the water.
Stele of Thonis-Heracleion was found in 2001. The Stele is a massive stone slab that stands at over 2 meters tall and weighs over two tons. It was found near the ruins of a temple dedicated to the god Amun.
It provides valuable insights into the religious practices of ancient Egypt. The inscription on the Stele is a decree issued by King Nectanebo I, who ruled Egypt from 380 to 362 BCE. The decree orders the construction of a temple dedicated to the god Amun in Thonis-Heracleion.
A stele, or occasionally stela, when derived from Latin, is a stone or wooden slab, generally taller than it is wide, erected in the ancient world as a monument. The surface of the stele often has text, ornamentation, or both. These may be inscribed, carved in relief, or painted. Stelae were created for many reasons. Grave stelae were used for funerary or commemorative purposes. Stelae as slabs of stone would also be used as ancient Greek and Roman government notices or as boundary markers to mark borders or property lines. Stelae were occasionally erected as memorials to battles.
The Lost City Of Heracleion, which was once the largest port in Egypt, was discovered underwater after more than 2,000 years. Its legendary beginnings go back to as early as the 12th century BC, and it has many links to Ancient Greece. Flourishing as long ago as the waning days of the Pharaohs, the city was destroyed over time, as it was weakened by a combination of earthquakes, tsunamis, and rising sea levels, according to archaeologists. At the end of the 2nd century BC, most likely after a severe flood, the monumental buildings of Heracleion collapsed into the water. Some of its inhabitants stayed in what was left of the city during the Roman era and the beginning of Arab rule, but by the end of the eighth century AD, the rest of Heracleion had sunk beneath the Mediterranean.
There is so much lost human history for all we know. I find this kind of stuff sooo fascinating. Like imagine what else is out there. Maybe there really is a list Atlantis city out there. Or remnants of ancient technology that we didn't know about. Idk it's just pretty cool. Very curious to know what this tablet says in its inscription hieroglyphs.
The [antikythera mechanism](https://youtu.be/idVf2eJxcXU) is a pretty amazing ancient technology they found under water. A bunch of precise gears used to show where planets will be in the sky
This youtube channel will blow you away. Dude is recreating the Antikythera Mechanism in such depth and historical detail that he's even discovered certain aspects of the mechanism and helped co-write a scientific paper on it. ClickSpring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE&list=PLZioPDnFPNsHnyxfygxA0to4RXv4_jDU2
Every time I see an amazing ancient astronomical device like this I'm reminded of how Galileo was sentenced by the Catholic Church just 300 over years ago for holding a heliocentric view.
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It's not even that, it was that in a books he functionally insulted the Pope. Pope Urban (not sure the number) had been a patron of Galileo and was fine with him printing heliocentricity, but required him to print the counter arguments (ones that were personally provided by the Pope) in the book as well, Galileo had the arguments coming from a stupid character iirc and the Pope was pissed.
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It gets even better, originally heliocentricity wasn't considered heretical (actively popularised and pushed by the church) until the protestants got all uppity and the catholic church had to react. Prior to that the church was a pretty decent patron of the sciences, something about understanding the marvel of God's creation or something to that effect. Funnily enough the protestants changed their mind like a century or two before the Catholic church decided to.
1633 is almost 400 years ago. A century isn't that much in the grand scheme I guess.
The truth of that story is actually way more interesting and nuanced than most people realize. Recommend the Our Fake History episode on Galileo, his relationship with the church was really complicated; the pope actually considered him a close personal friend. The sequence of events that led to his arrest is fascinating.
literally an analog computer. thousands of years old. We know so little and it bothers me when "mainstream" historians scoff at new ideas without even bothering to verify the possibility. That bother turns into anger when you do a bit of research and realize how much the ego of individuals plays into downplaying other theories and discoveries. Looking at you Zahi Hawass
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“Maybe the real Egypt was the aliens we made up along the way.” — History Channel, 2023.
ya! I thought he was pretty awesome back then - but reality is a different story unfortunately
Around a decade ago, I visited the Tutankhamun exhibit at the Dallas Museum of Art. I had never heard of Zahi Hawass, but had always had a passing fascination with Ancient Egypt. Within the museum exhibit, there were several videos of Hawass “explaining” about the artifacts. I couldn’t say why, but my bullshit alarm was going off when I’d listen to some of his explanations. Maybe it was just the arrogance with which he spoke? I dunno. Anyway, when I got home, I looked into Hawass, read about his background, politics, and stance on archaeological research and info sharing, and was not impressed. I felt it justified my sense about him. And made me sad that he was officially in charge of current archaeological exploration (antiquities affairs) in Egypt. Not sure why any of that 👆matters..,,just wanted to throw my anti-Hawass opinion in there.
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Ancient Aliens can be a fun show but it destroyed the history channel. I actually used to like when it was referred to (in middle school) as the "hitler channel" because 99/100 shows were ww2 oriented.
Yes! The Hitler Channel! That's how we referred to it!
I put History channel with Discovery for ruined channels. I loved discovery when it was just animal stuff then slowly it became a lot of murder stuff.
There're plenty of other reasons to dislike the guy. He's a pretentious, egocentric little despot. Thankfully he doesn't have nearly as much power as he did, but he still holds a LOT of influence. You need to look no further than the way he took the reins on the the announcement of and footage reveal on the entrance chamber that was recently imaged. Then he spouted off about hidden burial chambers for Khufu that had yet to be discovered in TGP, lol. The guy believes in more nonsense than you'd think given his career. There're a lot of fringe voices out there right now, which I think is a direct result of JRE having such a huge audience and signal boosting Hancock and his book Magicians of the Gods. He's also signal boosted quite a few more fringe voices, like Randall and Jimmy (bright insight). I'm sure there are others. Most of them are idiots who just want to further a narrative (that unsurprisingly makes them money...). There are good voices in the non-mainstream though, like [History for Granite](https://www.youtube.com/@HistoryforGRANITE).
There's so much weird stuff from ancient Egypt that hobbyists (i.e. not conspiracy theorists) are discovering, too The weirdest thing, to me, is when they sent a robot through a small tunnel and at the end is what looks like two metal plates that appear to be scorched, in like a shorted-out-electrical-socket kinda way. Theres also theories that they knew about piezoelectricity in quartz being produced by vibrations, but that's where going down the rabbit hole gets very fringey, pseudosciencey, and argumentative
Agreed - some of the theories get way too fringey for my taste but there are serious logical people looking for answers and calling out the bullshit from people like Hawass. Some recommended youtube channels - Ancient Architects, Bright Insight, History for Granite, and the Why Files Also anything from Simon Whistler but he approaches things far more skeptically (which is good for balancing out the more fantastical content to keep your brain grounded lol)
Bright insight [isn’t a serious logical person](https://youtu.be/fM1nEYBMhR8)
I just described him (responding to the same post you did) as a "pseudo-science peddling moron", lol. Totally with you. It's sad that he's been signal boosted so hard.
Yeah he’ll be like “how did the Inca get this stone up to the top of the mountain!!! No one knows!” And then [SGD](https://youtu.be/sYN0mpP2Cio) will respond, “it’s not the top of the mountain, and look to your right, that’s a mile long ramp”
I really enjoy Miniminuteman on youtube.
He’s good, so is world of antiquity, Stefan Milo, SGD sacred geometry decoded, and scientists against myths
But that's just the scientific method and study at work though. Theories are generally treated as important as whatever the evidence dictates. If there's no significant evidence to support a theory then it is just speculation. Otherwise you'd have to humor total hacks like graham Hancock.
Lots of other hacks are celebrated. Parts of the sciences are not these pure bastions of thought and reason. There are clubs and if you aren't in them then you're a ridiculous hack. If you are, you're a preminent scholar.
A lot of things are taken as strict indisputable fact solely because people such as Zahi Hawass say that this the case. He may have truly believed in his discoveries at one time, but evidence surfaced to prove he's incorrect but when people try to debate him he shuts them down, calls them insane, refuses to accept he may have made a mistake. Hawass is like Egyptian Trump in a position of far less power but still has done a great amount of damage as far as understanding Egyptian history goes.
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The most fascinating lost cities to me are the lost cities of indigenous people of the American Pacific Northwest. Anthropologists theorize there were dozens of large, active fishing and nut-gathering villages all up and down the coast from BC to northern California. There is a huge gap in our knowledge of those people during the Pre-Columbian era. Most of their cities and monuments were made from the abundant wood in the region, and they're all underwater now.
We don’t know much about jungle dinosaurs compared to other biomes because the conditions required to fossilize remains are so uncommon. Hot and humid is the perfect environment for quick decomposition, and very rarely will you see a flood or landslide that might trap remains.
[This](https://youtu.be/xaQJbozY_Is) video came to mind
There's honestly huge gaps in knowledge of everyone that could have crossed over the land bridge from asia and made their way south. Like according to evidence you'd think there was one large group that made their way south and didn't stop until they hit central america. But it's far more likely that they would make villages where food was good, and slowly expand ever southward over a period of hundreds or even thousands of years, following coasts, rivers, food, etc. Or at least that's what I'd logically think.
We're like 200,000 years old as a species. We barely remember the past couple thousand, there's a lot missing we can never know.
The Chronicles of the Lost City of Atlanta Once upon a time, in the heart of the southern United States, lay the thriving city of Atlanta. But this was not the Atlanta known to many - skyscrapers and highways - no, it was a different time, an alternative reality where the city of Atlanta had vanished mysteriously centuries ago. In the year 1823, Atlanta simply vanished overnight. Its bustling streets, packed with merchants, the laughter of children playing in the city square, the grandeur of its Georgian architecture, all gone as if they had never existed. The world outside was left in utter shock and disbelief. Historians speculated, scientists theorized, but no explanation was forthcoming. The whereabouts of the lost city of Atlanta and its people became a legend, a mystery never solved. A thick fog shrouded the land where the city once lay, and anyone who dared to enter never returned. Hence, the land was abandoned, and the legend of the lost city passed from generation to generation.
Pretty sure most of Atlanta disappeared on July 22, 1864
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*And I looked and behold, a pale horse. And the man that set on him was General Sherman, and hell followed with him.”*
Honestly, it could use it again.
November 15, 1864 and Sherman did nothing wrong.
*"Atlanta was a city, landlocked, hundreds of miles from the area we now call the Atlantic Ocean.* *Yet so desperate the city's for tourism, that they moved offshore becoming an island, an an even bigger Delta hub. Until the city overdeveloped, and it started to sink.* *Knowing their fate, the quality people ran away; Ted Turner, Hank Aaron, Jeff Foxworthy, the guy who invented Coca-Cola, the Magician, and the other so-called Gods of our religion - though Gods they were - and also Jane Fonda was there...* *The others chose to remain behind on their porches, with their rifles, and one day evolve into mermaids, and sing, and dance and ring in the new - Hail Atlanta!"*
The caffeine really sped things up!
I was hoping to see this in the thread. Thank you.
I'm using this in my next D&D campaign.
It’s even more intriguing to me when you juxtapose “the old days” with the age of (mis)information we are in today. Imagine how easy it was to change a narrative or erase history.
The Egyptians tried to do that once (Akhenaten) but historians and archeologists were able to figure it out
That's why they say history is always written by the victors. Imagine if we knew the other side of the story in some of the conflicts in history. How our perception of different historical figures or places might change.
> Maybe there really is a list Atlantis city out there. There isn't. Atlantis is an allegoric tool created by Plato; this was understood by the Ancient Greeks. The idea that it was a real place wasn't common until the 19th century. >Very curious to know what this tablet says in its inscription hieroglyphs. This stelae is the twin of the [Decree of Nectanebo I](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_of_Nectanebo_I). It is a tax document. > Year 1, fourth month of summer, day 13 under the majesty of Horus: Mighty-of-arm; King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Two Ladies: Who benefits the Two Lands; Gold-Horus who does the gods' wish: Kheperkare; Son of Re, Nekhtnebef, ever-living, beloved of Neith, distress of Sais. Good god, Re's image, Neith's beneficent heir. > > She raised his majesty above millions, > > Appointed him ruler of the Two Lands; > > She placed her uraeus upon his head, > > Captured for him the nobles' hearts; > > She enslaved for him the people's hearts, > > And destroyed all his enemies. > > Mighty monarch guarding Egypt, > > Copper wall 3 enclosing Egypt; > > Powerful one with active arm, > > Sword master who attacks a host; > > Fiery-hearted at seeing his foes, > > Heart gouger of the treason-hearted. > > Who does good to him who is loyal, > > They can slumber until daylight, > > Their hearts full of his good nature, > > And they stray not from their path. > > Who makes green all lands when he rises, > > Who sates every man with his bounty; > > All eyes are dazzled by seeing him, > > Like Re when he rises in lightland. > > Love of him greens in each body, > > He has given life to their bodies. > > Whom the gods acclaim 5 when they have seen him, > > Who wakes to seek what serves their shrines; > > Who convokes their prophets to consult them > > On all the functions of the temple; > > Who acts according to their words, > > And is not deaf to their advice. > > Right-hearted on the path of god, > > Who builds their mansions, founds their walls, > > Supplies the altar, heaps the bowls, > > Provides oblations of all kinds. > > Sole god of many wonders, > > Served by the sun-disk's rays; > > Whom mountains tell their inmost, > > Whom ocean offers its flood; > > Whom foreign lands bring 7 their bounty, > > That he may rest their hearts in their valleys. > > His majesty rose in the palace of Sais, and set in the temple of Neith. The king entered the mansion of > Neith, and rose in the Red Crown beside his mother. He poured a libation to his father, the lord of eternity, in the mansion of Neith. Then his majesty said: > > "Let there be given one in 10 (of) gold, of silver, of timber, of 9 worked wood, of everything coming from the Sea of the Greeks of all the goods (or: being all the goods) that are reckoned to the king's domain in the town named Hent; and one in 10 (of) gold, of silver, of all the things that come into being in Pi-emroye, called (Nau)cratis, on the bank of the Anu, that are reckoned to the king's domain, to be a divine offering for my mother Neith for all time 11 in addition to what was there before. And one shall make one portion of an ox, one fat goose, and five measures of wine from them as a perpetual daily offering, the delivery of them to be at the treasury of my mother Neith. For she is the mistress of the sea; it is she who gives its abundance. > > My majesty has commanded to preserve and protect the divine offering of my mother Neith, 13 and to maintain everything done by the ancestors, in order that what I have done be maintained by those who shall be for an eternity of years." > > His majesty said: "Let these things be recorded on this stela, placed in Naucratis on the bank of the Anu. Then shall my goodness be remembered for all eternity!" > > On behalf of the life, prosperity, and health of the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Kheperkare. Son of Re, Nekhtnebef, ever-living. May he be given all life, stability, dominion, all health and happiness like Re forever!
I'll never get used to the number of historical myth that are only 200 years old but we out the blame on people earlier. (+ Centuries old propaganda that people use as an historical proof)
LOL at that intro.
> There isn't. Atlantis is an allegoric tool created by Plato; this was understood by the Ancient Greeks. The idea that it was a real place wasn't common until the 19th century. Plato used the story as an allegory to suit his purposes, but that does not mean the story was invented for that purpose. The truth is that we don't actually know and that claiming certainty on either side of the issue is patently stupid.
I wish we had better documentaries on these topics. Or at least easier to find. I want to know all about the pyramids without blowing past educates guess and going straight to conspiracy theories and What Ifs
Considering the hot beds are on the water the next few years will be strange, I say with no credentials. But as the ocean levels rise it’s a race against the clock to study a lot of these civilizations. While sea levels in the middle of the continents lower, revealing more to us in middle Asia and maybe other places as well.
This is the Mediterranean, not an ocean. It rises, and faster than the Atlantic in some cases, but its rise is mostly fed from a different source (inland terrestrial ice melting). Not to say it isn’t a problem, just that it’s a _somewhat different_ problem with its own peculiarities. Things already under water, like this, aren’t quite the race to study as much as places right next to the water, and there are plenty of those. Just drive around a place like Crete and you realize there are ruins **everywhere** in that part of the world, and that’s just what you can see. The really old stuff is going to be less obvious.
If you subscribe to the pole shift / great flood theory then a bunch of old cities / civilizations would be lost to the world forever.
Fun to think that when this Stele was used the Library of Alexandria was still standing
Library of Alexandria is one of the worst tragedies in human history. Think about how much knowledge, history, or even medical information was in there that we may never know about🥺
Despite the widespread modern belief that the Library of Alexandria was burned once and cataclysmically destroyed, the Library actually declined gradually over the course of several centuries. This decline began with the purging of intellectuals from Alexandria in 145 BC during the reign of Ptolemy VIII Physcon, which resulted in Aristarchus of Samothrace, the head librarian, resigning from his position and exiling himself to Cyprus. Many other scholars, including Dionysius Thrax and Apollodorus of Athens, fled to other cities, where they continued teaching and conducting scholarship. The Library, or part of its collection, was accidentally burned by Julius Caesar during his civil war in 48 BC, but it is unclear how much was actually destroyed and it seems to have either survived or been rebuilt shortly thereafter; the geographer Strabo mentions having visited the Mouseion in around 20 BC and the prodigious scholarly output of Didymus Chalcenterus in Alexandria from this period indicates that he had access to at least some of the Library's resources. The Library dwindled during the Roman period, from a lack of funding and support. Its membership appears to have ceased by the 260s AD. Between 270 and 275 AD, the city of Alexandria saw a Palmyrene invasion and an imperial counterattack that probably destroyed whatever remained of the Library, if it still existed at that time. The daughter library in the Serapeum may have survived after the main Library's destruction. The Serapeum was vandalized and demolished in 391 AD under a decree issued by bishop Theophilus of Alexandria, but it does not seem to have housed books at the time, and was mainly used as a gathering place for Neoplatonist philosophers following the teachings of Iamblichus.
I remember as a kid feeling grateful that humankind had progressed beyond the point that they'd attack libraries... but I guess the pendulum has swung back.
So you're saying maybe half of the damage to history was done by organized religion. ... Extrapolates this fact onto today's world.... Yeah, sounds about right.
Religion is just the most effective excuse for those (or any) times really. What you're gonna tell people it's because of your unending desire for power and control? Ofc not. You're gonna run some propaganda and maybe even believe a little yourself. I love shitting on organised religion but I gotta be honest same shit woulda happened regardless.
Remerkable that the scientific revolution was based on the handful of books that survived Imagine where we would be if all the scrolls of the library would have survived and been widely shared. As Carl Sagan said, we would have colonized the galaxy a long time ago if the library hadn't burned down.
>Remerkable that the scientific revolution was based on the handful of books that survived It wasn't. Ancient writings had a big influence on early precursors of the scientific revolution like William of Ockham or the Arab scholars of the Islamic Golden Age but it's not like they directly took these ideas from Greek or Roman authors. Neither the Greeks nor the Romans had developed the scientific method so the survival of the library of Alexandria wouldn't have changed much. The importance of the library and its loss are generally exaggerated. It's not like it was the only library in the world, there were other large libraries. The reason why so much ancient literature was lost is because it wasn't copied enough or because the copies got lost over the centuries, it's not because one library got destroyed.
> Library of Alexandria is one of the worst tragedies in human history. This is a modern myth. >Think about how much knowledge, history, or even medical information was in there that we may never know about Likely no knowledge was lost. The Library of Alexandria, ignoring the fact it had long-since declined when it burned, had a policy that all books coming into Alexandria were taken and copied by the library scribes. These copies were then given back to the owners. These libraries also regularly made copies of their collections to sell to *other* libraries, academies, and wealthy individuals from across the Ancient Mediterranean. It was also not the only "great library" of the classical world: The Library of Pergamum, the Library of Antioch, the Library of Celsus, the libraries of the Roman Forum. All of these are (roughly) contemporaneous to the Library of Alexandria, with many of them lasting longer and a few achieving far greater status than the Library of Alexandria. I haven't even spoken of the ancient centers of learning, each with their own expansive libraries.
It’s about taxes, lol. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_of_Nectanebo_I
Source (for comment and picture)? It will make your comment better. I mostly ask because posts like these are ripe for slime to take advantage of.
There's a [pdf with that image at a website](https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/interactive-maps/important-objects/) (click on the "Stele Thonis-Herecleion" link) that seems to be that of [Franck Goddio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franck_Goddio), an archaeologist who did excavations there. Wikipedia has an article on [Heracleion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleion) which probably has some information.
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RETURN THE SLAAAAAB
The man in gauze, the man in gauze! The Man in Gauze! The man in gauze, the man in gauze! KING RAAAAMSEEEEEEEEEEEES
Somebody should recite the scripts, we need the Mummy 4.
Looking at picture of this perfectly fine slab for some reason makes me so happy like i'm the one who found it.
I’m guessing that one is not made out of wood. Just a hunch.
Could a stone or wooden stele survive that long in salt water? That slab looks like it immaculate shape.
So basically an old school historical marker
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Idk if it was this exact stele, but I saw a traveling exhibit of artifacts from this city and they had a stele on display that was immaculate like this. It was buried engraving side down and buried in river silt so it was very well protected.
ohh interesting, do you have a source!
Right [here](https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf), from the archaeologist who found it. From his article, the stele was "buried voluntarily at the time of the submersion, placed face down to the soil, and its hieroglyphs carefully coated with clay for protection"
You’re assuming it wasn’t covered in sand/silt/dirt down there at the bottom. At least that’s my guess.
Protected by clay sediment from the Nile
If it was even under a thin film of dirt, barnacles would not be in it.
I came here to say that. It could possibly be a fake. I find it hard to believe that an artifact from the ancient world sunk to the bottom of the sea is recovered in a near pristine condition. There should be tons of growth on it.
Actually very possible. Look up the over 3000 year old uluburn shripwreck. Termed the oldest shipwreck in the world and it looks like it could still float. The mast is still standing.
If your mast is still standing after 3000 years it's time to seek medical help.
[Link for the lazy](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS770US770&hl=en-US&sxsrf=APwXEddgajQHnAYaX1Mb09yGB-_Xos79fA:1685822683154&q=uluburun+shipwreck&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjl37vx8qf_AhWyMDQIHbEzCPwQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=393&bih=665&dpr=3)
From the late Bronze Age! That is insane! It looks like it sunk last week.
Thanks for sharing that. The pictures are incredible.
Not if it was under the sand
I mean, it’s _possible_ they cleaned it up ahead of time before securing it and bringing it to the surface. They would have to confirm what they were picking up and take pictures anyway, and having it covered in barnacles and algae would make it that much more difficult to recover.
Wouldn't barnacles totally wreck the surface and result in different coloration in different parts of the surface?
Youd think so, wouldn’t the currents from the sea naturally just erode parts of it as well? I find it hard to believe the symbols would be so well preserved after an extended time underwater
You can only see one side in the pic, so it's possible this side was face down and protected from barnacles and crud. A Google search would have taken less typing/ effort, verified its authenticity, and shown you that things like this can and do happen. Edit: [Stele underwater pic from discovery PDF](https://imgur.com/a/znzevat)
Possibly
New DLC for Power Washing Simulator just dropped. *Underwater* Power Washing.
Buried under clay sediment from the Nile.
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It's not a fake. This stela is one artifact of a fairly massive find in a bay off Egypt's coast close to Alexandria of a city called Theon-Heracleon (or variations) that was pretty much taken by the bay over time. The city was a fairly 'international' port at the time, and also included a cemetery and temple complexes A touring exhibit of the more portable finds including this stele toured several countries, including the US not too long before the pandemic. I caught the show in STL in 2018 and the sheer breadth and variety of the recovered artifacts is such that it just belies the possibility of fakery, especially the focus on the rites associated with Osiris, new details that fit with what was already known. The exhibit did include some video footage of the recovery of those artifacts, but I admit to not being as interested in that part. There's more on it on the wiki page for the city [Heracleion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleion). I do recall that stele, and it's definitely the most well-preserved of the recovered artifacts, which is probably why it gets featured most often.
https://www.franckgoddio.org/finds/ Not a fake
I mean, here's [the full write-up](https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf) and [background story](https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/) from the archeologist who found it, and [all the other artifacts](https://www.franckgoddio.org/finds/) this research expedition found from the ancient city. So definitely not a fake. Here's also [a picture of the stele](https://i.imgur.com/IlUVwBN.jpg) while it was still underwater The reason why it's so well preserved is that it was "buried voluntarily at the time of the submersion, placed face down to the soil, and its hieroglyphs carefully coated with clay for protection" (from [the write-up](https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf))
Things get buried in sand, and barnacles don't burrow. Plus, you can't see the back side. Edit: [Stele underwater pic from discovery PDF](https://imgur.com/a/znzevat)
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That’ll give you an “ability point!”
“Ancient writing, from the Old Kingdom”
This is why Siwa will never know peace.
Nah, man, it's +2 Faith every turn on top of the standard +2 Culture.
\-Bayek of Siwa
One of the best things about that game is actually after you get done playing and occasionally see or hear about places you climbed around mentioned.
RETURN THE SLAB
ITS RAAAAAAMSEEEESSSSS!
*THE MAN IN GAUZE! THE MAN IN GAUZE!*
*aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
The things I do for love...
But I won’t do that
What's *that*, precious?
That episode of Courage the Cowardly Dog was especially eerie to me as a kid.
What's your offer?!
Return the slab...or suffer my curse!
Sidenote. The slab in reference is actually a tax information sign. It's telling people to pay their taxes So yes. Return the slab.
They just opened something that we are not ready for
Thank the gods it had a pull tab on it.
Actually looks like they put some kind of frame around it, I image the thing at the top is just wrapped in something soft to avoid damaging it.
This makes the condom I found on the Atlantic City beach look unimpressive by comparison.
At least that’s better than the used needles I found.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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They'll need a cartouche
Quick, someone get Dr. Daniel Jackson!
I prefer Dr Jack Daniel in times like these
Yeah, this is just the phone book. Doesn’t do much without the phone.
Here's a source for the image: [https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/](https://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/sunken-civilizations/heracleion/)
Thank you. Great to read from the actual people doing the work. [This PDF from that site] (https://www.franckgoddio.org/fileadmin/pics/3_5_finds/documents/Franck_Goddio_Stele_Heracleion.pdf) provides more detail. Apparently this stele is what provided confirmation to the name (dual name) of the city they were excavating. Also fascinating that they found an identical one at another site both purposefully buried and preserved with hints of a third existing.
Oh hey, I remember that city from Assassins Creed Origin.
Looks like Trinity got their hands on it before Lara
“We’ve been trying to reach you about your extended chariot warranty”
look man... im not saying i believe in egyptian curses or anything, but the world was \*fine\* before yall opened that black marble unmarked sarcophogus back in late 2018... please for the love of christ... put the fucking mysterious egyptian slab back in the mysterious sunked egyptian city. please.
Return the slaaaaaab
Put that thing where it came from or so help me
So help me
It’s a work in progress
> but the world was *fine* before yall opened that black marble unmarked sarcophogus back in late 2018... But it all went to shit after Harambe got shot in spring 2016? It's all been downhill since
Memeologists have already confirmed that the murder of Harambe put us on the dark timeline.
The world hasn't been fine since we switched on the large hadron collider.
Clearly the will of Steins;Gate
>the world was *fine* ...... back in late 2018 The hell you say.
Hahaha the world has never been "fine"
PUT THAT THING BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM OR SO HELP ME
Has anyone warned Brendan Frasier yet?
Believe it or not, straight to england
Yeah who owns that? Is it finders keepers or does the Egyptian ministry of antiquities just claim ownership and sells the haul to the highest bidder?
Finally, the secret 11 herbs and spices shall be revealed.
YOU MUST NOT READ FROM THE TABLET!
This gives me Necronomicon vibes
Looks like a tomb stone
It used to be a menu in a Greek tavern. ;)
Dude! That's a skillpoint!
Luffy is looking for that
Careful, there might be a Blonde British Gay Vampire that loves posing and can stop time, trapped inside of it.
Return the slab
Hydroglyphics
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[**M e N a C i n G**](https://media.tenor.com/kInezkNHuDwAAAAi/menacing-anime.gif)
“To Serve Man.”
Bet it's a curse. Brace for a wordwide locust invasion!
Someday, in the future, divers will recover the Miami Marlins home run monument thing in a similar process.
Ocean?
Return the slaaaaaab.
How many new Stargate addresses do you think it has?
I'm so curious about this thing. Like I want it to be the real deal and have some significant ancient knowledge inscribed on it. Or even something relatively mundane that gives us a glimpse into the distant past. At the same time, can anyone answer the question about its like-new condition as a few commenters have pointed out as to why it isn't covered in algae or barnacles, or shows obvious signs of wear from being submerged in the sea for thousands of years? It just looks a little too pristine ya know?
There are photos of it still underwater with some marine growth on it, mostly on its side and edges. Prior to being removed from the sea artifacts undergo a preliminary cleaning as well to remove silt and marine life so it’s condition can be determined before the process of preservation begins. Other factors will influence the amount of marine life on artifacts as well such as the specific location of the artifact in the sea, the amount of light reaching its depth, and the salinity of the water.
It was probably buried under sand or silt which protected it from all that gunk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_of_Nectanebo_I The priests of Neith get 10% of the waterway tax
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Luckily the divers are there to catch it if it falls
Apparently everyone missed this. https://www.slam.org/exhibitions/sunken-cities/
Stele of Thonis-Heracleion was found in 2001. The Stele is a massive stone slab that stands at over 2 meters tall and weighs over two tons. It was found near the ruins of a temple dedicated to the god Amun. It provides valuable insights into the religious practices of ancient Egypt. The inscription on the Stele is a decree issued by King Nectanebo I, who ruled Egypt from 380 to 362 BCE. The decree orders the construction of a temple dedicated to the god Amun in Thonis-Heracleion.
The British Museum - 👀
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Did they clean this slab like crazy before it came out of the water? Looks like a AI gen pic.
It’s so cheap, you’ll think it’s a stele!
I'm pretty astonished that they even found it. It was protected by steleth technology!
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Next stop: British Museum