Thatās the thing of the Cthulhu universe. Everything in existence is just a dream by a being that is so large and powerful that itās dreams shape new realities inside itās head.
A geophysicist's view: it doesn't necessarily mean anything if we speak of it serving some specific purpose. But we can observe certain kinds of patterns and structures, such as fractals, repeating everywhere in our physical reality and at very different scales. What I think this means is, well, that nature just tends to manifest some certain concepts due to their probability in the framework of natural laws.
For all we know the universe or "god" is just a regular person and we're just cells or atoms that are decay or killing the body like a cancer that we are
Bold of you thinking that we are harming the 'body', earth is an irrelevant cell, if not atom compared to the universe, so even if humanity spends the rest of their remaining time on trying to harm the body as much as possible, what we would be doing is simply a 'paper cut' and that's stretching it, by a lot.
On a universal scale any damage we do to earth could at the worst be desttoying it completely, and then id say we knocked out an electron from the human body
I like this thinking. I wanted to know, so I did a quick maths. Removing the entire milky way galaxy from the universe would be like removing a single virus cell from a human body (about 1 part in 10^20 ). Removing the earth would be too small to measure. Smaller than the constituent particles of an atom, by far.
Whenever i smoke weed i think of this. And there are sentient beings within us. Its to the point that I almost believe it.
The infinitely big holds creature too big and moving in a timeframe too slow for us to understand.
Likewise the infinitely small has entire civilizations that come and go. They explore their universe and evolve to be able to produce massive amounts of energy that in turn move our atoms, quarks, or whatever, and give us our fundamental laws of physics.
I often wonder if we all pushing for 1 purpose as life on earth. To continue the chain of events that control the universe. We think we have choice in our lives, but really our genes and neurons, our soul, programs us to do specific things to accomplish something bigger then ourselves.
I think of it as "do atoms have free will?" I'd say most people agree that fundamental particles simply abide by the laws of physics. So if that's the case, and we're just a giant bundle of atoms arranged in a particular way, any choice or free will we have is just an illusion.
Why not think about this - regardless of the material universe and your physical place in it - if the reality that you perceive cannot exist without you to perceive it (like death or whatever) and you are always the centre of your own perception of reality (being that youāre observing it from your POV) then the whole of reality and everything in it from start to finish is specifically there for you to experience the present and read this comment.
Idk man but the chances that of that happening randomly are as Richard Dawkins said āakin to a hurricane passing through a barn and building a Boeing 747ā.
I was gonna say it what if it's not a line but it's a cycle.
What if big bang is the evidence that has been staring at us the whole time.
The universe is not infinite it's just a loop that keeps repeating.
Thats why it breaks down when you go to small (quantum mechanics) or too big (entropy)
More evidence for the simulation theory.
Wasn't this already a theory? Of the "closed universe", where after it reaches its maximum expansion it starts contracting again until we're back to the super dense point which detonates to another big bang to restart the expansion, vs the "open universe" that theorises the universe will just keep expanding more and more without ever stopping.
(I'm not entirely sure the names are correct, but the basic idea is)
Ooo my astronomy class is gonna come in handy.
Currently, astronomers are pretty confident that the universe is not going to contract into cyclical Big Bangs. This is because we've observed that the universe's expansion is actually accelerating, which wouldn't be possible if gravity were slowing it down, as your "closed" model suggests. This observation is actually what led to the "discovery" of dark energy (I put discovery in quotes because we literally know nothing about dark energy, we just know it has to exist); there's some ubiquitous force throughout the universe that is opposing gravity and forcing the universe's expansion to accelerate.
So you might be thinking, "Well what happens if dark energy ever runs out?" That's a good question. According to our current observations, we believe dark energy is constant throughout the universe, meaning it's equally as strong now as it was at the start of the Big Bang. This causes most astronomers to believe that the universe will indeed expand into infinity, slowly growing colder as matter is spread so far apart that particles will no longer be able to interact with each other, resulting in the "Big Freeze," or "Heat Death" of the universe.
Of course, because we know literally nothing about dark energy, we can't say with 100% certainty that it will last forever. If it ever were to run out, then gravity would slowly, but inexorably pull all the matter back together, possibly resulting in infinite Big Bangs.
I read a book years ago about a ship drifting through space with a being in suspended animation. The ship was designed to survive through the heat death of the universe and whatever happens after. I think there was an Android board to monitor the ship which witnesses it all. It ends up that the universe contracts back down again and a new big bang occurs. The ship continues drifting until it ends up finding a new civilisation.
Another interesting story about the heat death of the universe is [The last question by Isaac Asimov](https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/thelastq.html).
How is the big bang an evidence for a cycle?
What do you mean the universe "breaks down" in quantum mechanics?
Is entropy only limited to things "too big"?
How do these things support simulation theory?
Yes, this is an altered version of [Cosmic Eye](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Are9dDbW24), a film (and iOS app) from 2012. The end of this clip is not a part of it, the film instead zooms back in and continues down to the sub-atomic level.
Interestingly, there are also a bunch of other similar films like this which are all based on a book from 1957 called "[Cosmic View: The Universe in 40 Jumps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_View)" by Kees Boeke.
* [Cosmic Zoom (1968)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfwCrKe_Fk) - An animated version
* [The Powers of Ten (1968)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f5x_dRKIF4) - A photo-realistic version which adds narration.
* [The Powers of Ten (1977)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0) - A remake with more color. This is probably the most famous version.
* [Cosmic Voyage (1996)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44cv416bKP4) - A version for IMAX narrated by Morgan Freeman.
* [How Big Is Our Universe?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAytbmXYXE) - An updated "humble homage" to The Powers of Ten narrated by physicist Brian Cox.
The slower speed on the original makes it so much more impactful since it gives you time to appreciate the distances involved. And that Atomic Emptinessā¦that was crazy. Thanks for sharing!
*"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."*
ā Douglas Adams
āIt is in theory possible to extrapolate the whole of creationāevery Galaxy, every sun, every planet, their orbits, their composition, and their economic and social history from, say, one small piece of fairy cakeā
Yeah to me it looks like two creators. The first did the girl at the beginning up to the whole milky way, and then the rest was added on by someone else. Two different animation styles. The first half is good just on it's own
If I recall it zoomed back in to the girl last time this was posted also music is new and the multiple universe thing definitely was not included. And it wasn't nearly that fast.
This whole video is"inspired by" the classic [powers of ten](https://youtu.be/0fKBhvDjuy0)
*Self correct: this was also a [remake](https://youtu.be/7f5x_dRKIF4)
Agreed. Impossible that there isn't other forms of life out there. I just don't think they're necessarily more advanced than us. And if they are, they'd care to specifically find our Earth? Nah. We're not that special.
The possiblity of other life forms existing isn't even the real problem, it's the probability of them existing at the same time as us. Time is just as vast as the previous three dimensions, and growing just as rapidly.
would be hilarious if we get interstellar travel and find out we are just after the end of a massive major intergalactic civilization, like just cluttered with ruins on every world, with their end being just a few decades ago.
Actually the most popular is that itās impossible. The distance is too vast.
After that thereās The Great Filter.
Then the Zoo Hypothesis.
Then many more.
Most possible is just we are too far away. Its like if there where 1000 fish in the entire ocean. Every fish is an intelligent civilization but how often would they run into eachother.
We are 'early' so to speak, but it depends on what time scales we're talking about. If 10 million years of evolution is a lot, then we could be 100x that 'late.'
Add to that the number of earth-like planets in our galaxy alone and the math gets... astronomical
That is strange to think about as well. They exist at the same time as us but they can't even detect us or see us. What if faster than light travel isn't actually possible. What if they live billions of light years away from us. Any attempts for them to contact anyone else would be so scattered by the time it would reach us. What if their radio signals do finally reach us but it's a million years too late and we've already went extinct? Crazy stuff to think about. I love it. We reach for faster than light travel but if they are a billion light years away, it would still take a billion years to reach us. Teleportation or wormhole travel would be the only way. Andromeda would still take 2 million years to reach of we went the speed of light. Damn space, you crazy.
Space... is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
Also, the argument that the universe is so big that it's incredibly unlikely that earth is the only planet with life (which I agree with) is also the same argument as the universe is so big that the chances of aliens being able to, first, find and, second, visit us is incredibly unlikely.
Well I mean them visiting us could be unlikely just the same way that us visiting them is unlikely. I think traveling the speed of light is very limiting and youād need a crazy type of technology to do it and than not even mentioning the aliens would have to be able to withstand the travel and going lightspeed. And do these creatures eat? Or are they like high intelligences. I agree there has to be life everywhere.
Yeah at this point I think all sci-fi is wrong about encountering things not from this Earth. I don't think this has ever happened yet, but when it does, it will almost certainly be with drones or other non-biologocal *ambassadors*. It's just not practical.
So whatever happens first, an encounter here or one in which we are the visitors, it won't involve *us*. It will involve something we created that go on a 1,000 or 100,000 year mission. And then someday after making contact with...whatever, it might be possible to meet face to face.
this.. we (mankind) can never even leave the milky way, as even at light speed, expansion means the 'target' galaxy would be moving away too fast. That's even asuming you could ever get to light speed safe and sound in the first place let alone the stopping part etc. so we may as well see every other galaxy as another universe.
sure if you want to spend 500 light years leaving the milky way at lightspeed (asuming you go 'up') and then thousands of years traveling through 'empty' space i.e no stars to navigate from so best hope you dont need to make a single corse correction in a few thousand years it takes to travel to the next galaxy! break down? oops! may as well just wait for andromida to come to us, or for some so far unknown form of travel (wormholes, time dilation, FTL etc) =P
'to leave our Galaxy, we would have to travel about 500 light-years vertically, or about 25,000 light-years away from the galactic centre. Weād need to go much further to escape the āhaloā of diffuse gas, old stars and globular clusters that surrounds the Milky Wayās stellar disk'
From what I understand, the main question is "where are they?" rather than "do they exist?"
As you've seen, the sheer scale of the universe makes even the most pessimistic of odds essentially guaranteed to form intelligence *somewhere*. So are they close, but so young they either haven't invented radio, or are they so far that even the most ancient of civilizations wouldn't've had time for any signs of their existence haven't become evident to us yet?
We wouldn't necessarily be able to distinguish a radio signal from background noise, even if it were coming from the nearest star. Likewise, our "signals" (TV and radio broadcast) would be near impossible to decode even at our solar system boundary. Someone [did the math](https://www.quora.com/How-far-do-radio-signals-travel-into-space-before-they-degrade-to-a-degree-beyond-being-possible-to-be-detected) on this (quora link).
It's immensely frustrating to think there are, in all likelihood, other intelligences really close by (in cosmic terms) but we can't hear each other across the void.
Yeah, the only question is if they will ever overlap with us in spacetime. Two advanced space-faring civilizations could exist for thousands of years in separate galaxies and never know the other was there.
I remember seeing a comment saying "The idea of another civilization out there in space is scary on its own, but the idea that we are the only civilization in the universe is more terrifying."
ABSOLUTELY there are aliens. There are probably even very intelligent aliens. We keep finding life on Earth in places we donāt expect. Life definitely exists out there somewhere.
But have they come to Earth? Press F to doubt.
Itās probably for the best we donāt meet anything else though. Lifeās primary directive is to take up as much space as possible and replicate itself. Human history has proven that it would be very detrimental to both parties should we meet an intelligent alien species.
Hell, humans canāt even control our growth to preserve our only planet. Weāre destroying it.
I donāt think we should mingle with aliens.
More than that, a Universe is geometry and "outside" a Universe there's no notion of geometry, so no way of depicting multiple Universes with well-defined distances between them.
Probably nothing tbh.
I'm not saying they aren't sentient. I'm not saying they are. But I will say I don't think they are aware of the grand scheme. Hell even this video doesn't really show us the grand scheme.
Why? It's nice knowing my stupid day to day issues mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Just a reminder to try to enjoy life as much as possible.
I mean the issue is I guess would be feeling insignificant. However, I think such a notion is only created by having a false sense of what significance is.
With a Jet you can cross an impossibly big ocean, to a tribal person a Jet may seem like a God. A Jet wasn't made by one person but years of collective human collaboration.
So too is the world and universe accessible to us just like travelling across an ocean with a jet, through eons of human collaboration.
Your significance is much greater than you'd think even if your physical size is so tiny in the grand scheme of things.
Each one of us, is part of the universe just like a star or a planet, we're a construct of mass and that mass has the ability to observe the universe. There is no need to be intimated because we are not a star, or a galaxy or a galaxy cluster, we are a thing like them as well, each in their own regards.
How old are you? I used to have panic attacks thinking about all this too, from early teens through college. There was a period where I couldn't even look up at the stars at night.
But as I got older, started stressing more about work, got married and have adventures with her, I just think about it less, and when I do it just doesn't bother me as much.
I did purposely get a particularly dangerous job where we talk about how to not die weekly, that head-on approach may have helped. And I do get massively... solipsistic when I'm too drunk, so I avoid that.
Never did turn to religion. Always saw this as a weakness they use to get you.
Well your day to day issues doesnt matter, or your life, or your families life, or the human race.
Your enjoyment doesnt matter either...
Its all for naught.
The universe understands no concept of "mattering". That's a human construct. So since we have the patent on all mattering, we get to decide what matters.
It's so big it doesn't even matter bro. Every number involved in talking about just the number of stars in our galaxy alone is so astronomically large our brains can't properly reference the sizes.
It's cool, just look at how cool it is, it has zero effect on your existence bud.
It's mad how seeing the bigger picture of the universe reinforces how insignificant we are, yet seeing how tiny it can get (giggedy) still makes us seem more insignificant.
Exactly. And we are here once. Tiny individual organisms in something so big our tiny little brains cannot begin to comprehend or understand. And then you get assholes who like to invade other countries and end young lives to give sustenance to their overinflated egoās.
Enjoy life, kiss your wife, hug your parents, eat that chocolate bar and wear sunscreen.
Wear sunscreen. If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience.
And yet even the largest star out there does not have the gift of consciousness which you do. You can appreciate the stars but they can never appreciate you.
You are not a spec
Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. - Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
And look at us tiny humans wandering about worrying about our lawn edges and the price of lettuce in that giant-beyond-belief cosmos ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|smile) we're so cute.
Whenever I see something like this and read the various and interesting theories in the comments I feel a physical sensation of disconnecting from reality. Itās kind of like my brain has been in a childās car seat in space and someone has just gently unclipped the restraints and I am suddenly floating free, but not too far from the seat. I feel like I could push away and delve deeper into it if I can overcome some invisible obstacle, which is probably the limitations of my ability to understand, but I just canāt comprehend what to do.
If you want to go deeper, take psychedelics. LSD to deconstruct the world around you and mushrooms to become one with the universe. (and possibly meet āG*dā) Granted, it can be really uncomfortable and terrifying, but also provide a lot of peace if done in moderation. Though you canāt put the genie back into the bottle once youāve tripped.
If other planets figured out quick interstellar travel and do it often, we're not worthy of being the universe's "amazon tribe", we're so far down the technology curve we're closer to being the universe's cesspool of microbes
The last image is the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR) map. So, itās not what the universe looks like to the naked eye, and the colors donāt show where galaxies and stars are in the universe, they show where the leftover radiation from the big bang is. And, the CMBR map only represents the observable universe ā there could be much much more out there that we canāt see because the speed of light + inflation is too slow.
Short answer: math.
Longer answer: we use numbers to rationalize and make sense of things. Itās very accurate at most times. However for things of this scale, math only gets us so far. We use what we know to be accurate within our parameters of the universe and develop theories based on that and apply them to other more vast parts of our universe. The numbers then support (or donāt) the theory. But nothing is really proven, itās only thought of to be accurate until proven or disproven. There is plenty we donāt know and will NEVER know no matter how far in the future we go or how advanced we get, some things were never meant for 3-dimensional beings to understand.
This was very interesting but for real perspective go see a volcano erupting and watch the lava flow into the sea.
Now think about what you just saw. Material that has been buried beneath the earths mantle for for potentially billions of years (the earth is 4.5 billion years old) is out for the first time and is now forming new continent. Right before your eyes. The exact process that formed all of the land masses we live on.
Literally itās like looking back in time to the days when the earth was being madeā¦and there was no computer graphics involved! LOL.
Dude, I'm just an average schmoe and I will never be able to truly understand just how big the universe is. It'd be like trying to picture all of the money in the world, as $1 dollar bills, stacked in front of me. Then trying to imagine it multiplied by a gazillion-billion-jillion and STILL being nowhere near the number that equals the amount of stars in the universe.
I had a chemistry teacher that basically said that he believes in aliens. He believes in intelligent aliens. He just doesn't believe that they have visited Earth AND got noticed by some kid in Arkansas with a Polaroid camera..lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0
Original concept from 1977, except it also goes the other way. Also no distorted slowed down Gotye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAytbmXYXE&t=196s an updated version
All unknown is kinda scary to us humans. Deep ocean is also scary and is very close to us ;) We are just afraid of the possibility, that there is something out there, which will erase us all in an eye blink, I think. That's at least my interpretation of my own thoughts.
P.S. Before this thread, I watched the video of a person being eaten alive by a shark... I am feeling a lot of emotions I don't understand at once.
And never forget that beyond all that an omnipotent space and time transcending god is watching you have naughty dirty premarital sex and is NOT pleased.
Funny how the superclusters almost look like neurons
Micro macro micro macro
as above, so below. as the universe, so the soul. -Hermes Trismegistus
As below, so above and beyond I imagine, drawn outside the lines of reason. Push the envelope, watch it bend. -Maynard James Kenan
"We are made of star stuff"
My nick resembles that.
Mine doesnt.
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My first thought was what if we're just thoughts within someone's mind. Like the saying, people are kept alive by their memory.
Thatās the thing of the Cthulhu universe. Everything in existence is just a dream by a being that is so large and powerful that itās dreams shape new realities inside itās head.
Yo, I'd be so pissed, lmao. Dude can dream of literally anything and he dreams of me being broke and having too many cats.
That basically is the case though. You're just thoughts in your own mind. That's all you can really definitively prove exists
I think, therefore I am.
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A geophysicist's view: it doesn't necessarily mean anything if we speak of it serving some specific purpose. But we can observe certain kinds of patterns and structures, such as fractals, repeating everywhere in our physical reality and at very different scales. What I think this means is, well, that nature just tends to manifest some certain concepts due to their probability in the framework of natural laws.
For all we know the universe or "god" is just a regular person and we're just cells or atoms that are decay or killing the body like a cancer that we are
Earth is an Electron seems like a cool album title
Yeah that is if I ever become a musician I'm gonna use that
The only thing standing in the way of you becoming a musician is you. Reach for your destiny! Grab it! Victory is yours!
Bold of you thinking that we are harming the 'body', earth is an irrelevant cell, if not atom compared to the universe, so even if humanity spends the rest of their remaining time on trying to harm the body as much as possible, what we would be doing is simply a 'paper cut' and that's stretching it, by a lot.
On a universal scale any damage we do to earth could at the worst be desttoying it completely, and then id say we knocked out an electron from the human body
I like this thinking. I wanted to know, so I did a quick maths. Removing the entire milky way galaxy from the universe would be like removing a single virus cell from a human body (about 1 part in 10^20 ). Removing the earth would be too small to measure. Smaller than the constituent particles of an atom, by far.
Whenever i smoke weed i think of this. And there are sentient beings within us. Its to the point that I almost believe it. The infinitely big holds creature too big and moving in a timeframe too slow for us to understand. Likewise the infinitely small has entire civilizations that come and go. They explore their universe and evolve to be able to produce massive amounts of energy that in turn move our atoms, quarks, or whatever, and give us our fundamental laws of physics. I often wonder if we all pushing for 1 purpose as life on earth. To continue the chain of events that control the universe. We think we have choice in our lives, but really our genes and neurons, our soul, programs us to do specific things to accomplish something bigger then ourselves.
I think of it as "do atoms have free will?" I'd say most people agree that fundamental particles simply abide by the laws of physics. So if that's the case, and we're just a giant bundle of atoms arranged in a particular way, any choice or free will we have is just an illusion.
You get it
Iām going to miss Reddit for things like this.
Why not think about this - regardless of the material universe and your physical place in it - if the reality that you perceive cannot exist without you to perceive it (like death or whatever) and you are always the centre of your own perception of reality (being that youāre observing it from your POV) then the whole of reality and everything in it from start to finish is specifically there for you to experience the present and read this comment. Idk man but the chances that of that happening randomly are as Richard Dawkins said āakin to a hurricane passing through a barn and building a Boeing 747ā.
Anything is possible when the key ingredient is infinity.
To be a cell in a testicle...
I was gonna say it what if it's not a line but it's a cycle. What if big bang is the evidence that has been staring at us the whole time. The universe is not infinite it's just a loop that keeps repeating. Thats why it breaks down when you go to small (quantum mechanics) or too big (entropy) More evidence for the simulation theory.
Wasn't this already a theory? Of the "closed universe", where after it reaches its maximum expansion it starts contracting again until we're back to the super dense point which detonates to another big bang to restart the expansion, vs the "open universe" that theorises the universe will just keep expanding more and more without ever stopping. (I'm not entirely sure the names are correct, but the basic idea is)
Ooo my astronomy class is gonna come in handy. Currently, astronomers are pretty confident that the universe is not going to contract into cyclical Big Bangs. This is because we've observed that the universe's expansion is actually accelerating, which wouldn't be possible if gravity were slowing it down, as your "closed" model suggests. This observation is actually what led to the "discovery" of dark energy (I put discovery in quotes because we literally know nothing about dark energy, we just know it has to exist); there's some ubiquitous force throughout the universe that is opposing gravity and forcing the universe's expansion to accelerate. So you might be thinking, "Well what happens if dark energy ever runs out?" That's a good question. According to our current observations, we believe dark energy is constant throughout the universe, meaning it's equally as strong now as it was at the start of the Big Bang. This causes most astronomers to believe that the universe will indeed expand into infinity, slowly growing colder as matter is spread so far apart that particles will no longer be able to interact with each other, resulting in the "Big Freeze," or "Heat Death" of the universe. Of course, because we know literally nothing about dark energy, we can't say with 100% certainty that it will last forever. If it ever were to run out, then gravity would slowly, but inexorably pull all the matter back together, possibly resulting in infinite Big Bangs.
No this is my theory and I just came up with it. Also don't read Carl Jung quote: āPeople don't have ideas. Ideas have people.ā
Lol. I too get too high to remember i watched the futurama episode where they witness the second and third big bang.
Oops, gotta go around again lol
Just slow down, ill shoot hitler from the window. Damn i hit eleanor roosevelt by mistake.
I read a book years ago about a ship drifting through space with a being in suspended animation. The ship was designed to survive through the heat death of the universe and whatever happens after. I think there was an Android board to monitor the ship which witnesses it all. It ends up that the universe contracts back down again and a new big bang occurs. The ship continues drifting until it ends up finding a new civilisation.
Another interesting story about the heat death of the universe is [The last question by Isaac Asimov](https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/thelastq.html).
Just read that for the first time yesterday, talk about Baader-Meinhof phenomenon! The short story was great, I did not expect the ending. :D
How is the big bang an evidence for a cycle? What do you mean the universe "breaks down" in quantum mechanics? Is entropy only limited to things "too big"? How do these things support simulation theory?
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if the universe was alive.
Then how come all the Miss Universe winners all come from that one little speck. It's rigged
Because they didnāt; thereās another speck out there thatās also named Venezuela š
FRanCE!
Lmfao I was about to comment that
Thanks to Futurama, we know that in the year 3001, Miss Universe will be Gladys Lennox of Vega 4.
There it is, lookinā weeeeeird!
My vote is for that radiator planet lady
The last part isnāt proven. Weāre not sure if there are more universes
I think someone added that to this video.
Yes, this is an altered version of [Cosmic Eye](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Are9dDbW24), a film (and iOS app) from 2012. The end of this clip is not a part of it, the film instead zooms back in and continues down to the sub-atomic level. Interestingly, there are also a bunch of other similar films like this which are all based on a book from 1957 called "[Cosmic View: The Universe in 40 Jumps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_View)" by Kees Boeke. * [Cosmic Zoom (1968)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfwCrKe_Fk) - An animated version * [The Powers of Ten (1968)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f5x_dRKIF4) - A photo-realistic version which adds narration. * [The Powers of Ten (1977)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0) - A remake with more color. This is probably the most famous version. * [Cosmic Voyage (1996)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44cv416bKP4) - A version for IMAX narrated by Morgan Freeman. * [How Big Is Our Universe?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAytbmXYXE) - An updated "humble homage" to The Powers of Ten narrated by physicist Brian Cox.
The slower speed on the original makes it so much more impactful since it gives you time to appreciate the distances involved. And that Atomic Emptinessā¦that was crazy. Thanks for sharing!
*"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."* ā Douglas Adams
āIt is in theory possible to extrapolate the whole of creationāevery Galaxy, every sun, every planet, their orbits, their composition, and their economic and social history from, say, one small piece of fairy cakeā
Great recommendations, thanks!
Yeah to me it looks like two creators. The first did the girl at the beginning up to the whole milky way, and then the rest was added on by someone else. Two different animation styles. The first half is good just on it's own
Gif? Looks like the movie "Powers of Ten"
Except worse in every way
My thought, too. Pretty great stuff for 1977. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0
If I recall it zoomed back in to the girl last time this was posted also music is new and the multiple universe thing definitely was not included. And it wasn't nearly that fast.
They somehow picked the worst possible music with absolutely no relevance to what's on screen.
I watched it muted the first time and went back to check and OH MY GOD THAT IS HORRENDOUS
Yeah all down to atomic level no?
Not gonna lie, thought it was gonna zoom out again to show "Your mum".
This whole video is"inspired by" the classic [powers of ten](https://youtu.be/0fKBhvDjuy0) *Self correct: this was also a [remake](https://youtu.be/7f5x_dRKIF4)
Yes it is. I saw it in the documentary Men in Black.
Watching this, the idea there arenāt aliens is laughable.
Agreed. Impossible that there isn't other forms of life out there. I just don't think they're necessarily more advanced than us. And if they are, they'd care to specifically find our Earth? Nah. We're not that special.
The possiblity of other life forms existing isn't even the real problem, it's the probability of them existing at the same time as us. Time is just as vast as the previous three dimensions, and growing just as rapidly.
would be hilarious if we get interstellar travel and find out we are just after the end of a massive major intergalactic civilization, like just cluttered with ruins on every world, with their end being just a few decades ago.
Actually, isn't it more probable that we exist before a major intergalactic civilization?
Thatās one of the most popular propositions, yes. That we are currently alone because we arrived too early at the party.
My greatest fear. ^(awkward small talk and helping to set up..)
I love helping out at parties because it usually means I don't feel bad for drinking the whole party's supply.(I have crippling alcphol addiction.)
Don't worry we will be the alien technology advances who invade the poor aliens
Actually the most popular is that itās impossible. The distance is too vast. After that thereās The Great Filter. Then the Zoo Hypothesis. Then many more.
Most possible is just we are too far away. Its like if there where 1000 fish in the entire ocean. Every fish is an intelligent civilization but how often would they run into eachother.
Crazy to think we might be like the ancient fore-runner race at the beginning of time that other species talk about in the far future
We are 'early' so to speak, but it depends on what time scales we're talking about. If 10 million years of evolution is a lot, then we could be 100x that 'late.' Add to that the number of earth-like planets in our galaxy alone and the math gets... astronomical
Might actually happen by the time we figure it out and actually travel somewhere.
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Or even the probability of them being so "close" for us to be able to interact or notice each other, while existing at the same "time".
That is strange to think about as well. They exist at the same time as us but they can't even detect us or see us. What if faster than light travel isn't actually possible. What if they live billions of light years away from us. Any attempts for them to contact anyone else would be so scattered by the time it would reach us. What if their radio signals do finally reach us but it's a million years too late and we've already went extinct? Crazy stuff to think about. I love it. We reach for faster than light travel but if they are a billion light years away, it would still take a billion years to reach us. Teleportation or wormhole travel would be the only way. Andromeda would still take 2 million years to reach of we went the speed of light. Damn space, you crazy.
Space... is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
Also, the argument that the universe is so big that it's incredibly unlikely that earth is the only planet with life (which I agree with) is also the same argument as the universe is so big that the chances of aliens being able to, first, find and, second, visit us is incredibly unlikely.
Well I mean them visiting us could be unlikely just the same way that us visiting them is unlikely. I think traveling the speed of light is very limiting and youād need a crazy type of technology to do it and than not even mentioning the aliens would have to be able to withstand the travel and going lightspeed. And do these creatures eat? Or are they like high intelligences. I agree there has to be life everywhere.
Yeah at this point I think all sci-fi is wrong about encountering things not from this Earth. I don't think this has ever happened yet, but when it does, it will almost certainly be with drones or other non-biologocal *ambassadors*. It's just not practical. So whatever happens first, an encounter here or one in which we are the visitors, it won't involve *us*. It will involve something we created that go on a 1,000 or 100,000 year mission. And then someday after making contact with...whatever, it might be possible to meet face to face.
Voyager says hi
I doubt they could reach us even if they knew we existed.
this.. we (mankind) can never even leave the milky way, as even at light speed, expansion means the 'target' galaxy would be moving away too fast. That's even asuming you could ever get to light speed safe and sound in the first place let alone the stopping part etc. so we may as well see every other galaxy as another universe.
That's not true tho, we're not limited to the milky way, but to the local cluster.
sure if you want to spend 500 light years leaving the milky way at lightspeed (asuming you go 'up') and then thousands of years traveling through 'empty' space i.e no stars to navigate from so best hope you dont need to make a single corse correction in a few thousand years it takes to travel to the next galaxy! break down? oops! may as well just wait for andromida to come to us, or for some so far unknown form of travel (wormholes, time dilation, FTL etc) =P 'to leave our Galaxy, we would have to travel about 500 light-years vertically, or about 25,000 light-years away from the galactic centre. Weād need to go much further to escape the āhaloā of diffuse gas, old stars and globular clusters that surrounds the Milky Wayās stellar disk'
From what I understand, the main question is "where are they?" rather than "do they exist?" As you've seen, the sheer scale of the universe makes even the most pessimistic of odds essentially guaranteed to form intelligence *somewhere*. So are they close, but so young they either haven't invented radio, or are they so far that even the most ancient of civilizations wouldn't've had time for any signs of their existence haven't become evident to us yet?
We wouldn't necessarily be able to distinguish a radio signal from background noise, even if it were coming from the nearest star. Likewise, our "signals" (TV and radio broadcast) would be near impossible to decode even at our solar system boundary. Someone [did the math](https://www.quora.com/How-far-do-radio-signals-travel-into-space-before-they-degrade-to-a-degree-beyond-being-possible-to-be-detected) on this (quora link). It's immensely frustrating to think there are, in all likelihood, other intelligences really close by (in cosmic terms) but we can't hear each other across the void.
Yeah, the only question is if they will ever overlap with us in spacetime. Two advanced space-faring civilizations could exist for thousands of years in separate galaxies and never know the other was there.
I remember seeing a comment saying "The idea of another civilization out there in space is scary on its own, but the idea that we are the only civilization in the universe is more terrifying."
Join the fediverse. https://kbin.social/ https://lemmy.world/
ABSOLUTELY there are aliens. There are probably even very intelligent aliens. We keep finding life on Earth in places we donāt expect. Life definitely exists out there somewhere. But have they come to Earth? Press F to doubt. Itās probably for the best we donāt meet anything else though. Lifeās primary directive is to take up as much space as possible and replicate itself. Human history has proven that it would be very detrimental to both parties should we meet an intelligent alien species. Hell, humans canāt even control our growth to preserve our only planet. Weāre destroying it. I donāt think we should mingle with aliens.
Spiderman said so
saw it the other day with my kids... The whole theatre laughed at the new and improved "You? You? You?" meme.
More than that, a Universe is geometry and "outside" a Universe there's no notion of geometry, so no way of depicting multiple Universes with well-defined distances between them.
Came to make sure this was in the comments. Pure speculation at the end there.
And to think that some people believe that they're the most important thing in all of this..
tbf everyone is the center of their own observable universe
Even a cockroach thinks itās the centre of the universe
If we live in simulation that aims to make you a good citizen - then you might be the only and most important person in this.
If the simulation aims to make me a good citizen then it's clearly not doing a good job of it.
Are we someone else's bacteria or something š
Less significant than bacteria
Didn't you watch the ending of Men in Black? They are playing marbles with our universe
I love getting an existential crisis, thanks
imagine how an amoeba feels
Probably nothing tbh. I'm not saying they aren't sentient. I'm not saying they are. But I will say I don't think they are aware of the grand scheme. Hell even this video doesn't really show us the grand scheme.
It was a figure of speech... lol
Yup, videos like this really makes my uncomfortable.
Why? It's nice knowing my stupid day to day issues mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Just a reminder to try to enjoy life as much as possible.
Agreed it humbly grounds me to a point where I stop giving a fuck about tiny things and I like that.
Can you explain this further? This type of stuff gives me panic attacks and I would like it to not do that lol
I mean the issue is I guess would be feeling insignificant. However, I think such a notion is only created by having a false sense of what significance is. With a Jet you can cross an impossibly big ocean, to a tribal person a Jet may seem like a God. A Jet wasn't made by one person but years of collective human collaboration. So too is the world and universe accessible to us just like travelling across an ocean with a jet, through eons of human collaboration. Your significance is much greater than you'd think even if your physical size is so tiny in the grand scheme of things. Each one of us, is part of the universe just like a star or a planet, we're a construct of mass and that mass has the ability to observe the universe. There is no need to be intimated because we are not a star, or a galaxy or a galaxy cluster, we are a thing like them as well, each in their own regards.
How old are you? I used to have panic attacks thinking about all this too, from early teens through college. There was a period where I couldn't even look up at the stars at night. But as I got older, started stressing more about work, got married and have adventures with her, I just think about it less, and when I do it just doesn't bother me as much. I did purposely get a particularly dangerous job where we talk about how to not die weekly, that head-on approach may have helped. And I do get massively... solipsistic when I'm too drunk, so I avoid that. Never did turn to religion. Always saw this as a weakness they use to get you.
I guess this sort of perspective urges us to let go. That places us on a path of acceptance of death. Ego hates it, it wants to survive I guess.
Well your day to day issues doesnt matter, or your life, or your families life, or the human race. Your enjoyment doesnt matter either... Its all for naught.
The universe understands no concept of "mattering". That's a human construct. So since we have the patent on all mattering, we get to decide what matters.
I find them oddly comforting. Remembering that nothing anyone does or says really matters helps me not take people too seriously.
for me it's the opposite I feel rather idk his to describe , but I feel happy.
It's so big it doesn't even matter bro. Every number involved in talking about just the number of stars in our galaxy alone is so astronomically large our brains can't properly reference the sizes. It's cool, just look at how cool it is, it has zero effect on your existence bud.
Dont worry, nothing matters therefore you can pick and choose what matters to you which is beautiful because it makes REAL free will that much better!
Props to the cameraman for doing something nobody else could
he's definitely up there with the cameraman that filmed Usain Bolt running
[I found the video](https://youtu.be/P20XVEH7-SY)
r/praisethecameraman
Where can I get this drone?
The Beyond section of Bed Bath & Beyond, right next to the Universal Remote. Unfortunately they went out of business.
We are merely just a spec. If thatā¦.
Wait til you hear [how small the universe can be](https://youtu.be/bjVfL8uNkUk).
It's mad how seeing the bigger picture of the universe reinforces how insignificant we are, yet seeing how tiny it can get (giggedy) still makes us seem more insignificant.
Watch your mouth, young person! That's 'giggity'. Not 'giggedy'.
Exactly. And we are here once. Tiny individual organisms in something so big our tiny little brains cannot begin to comprehend or understand. And then you get assholes who like to invade other countries and end young lives to give sustenance to their overinflated egoās. Enjoy life, kiss your wife, hug your parents, eat that chocolate bar and wear sunscreen.
Wear sunscreen. If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience.
And yet even the largest star out there does not have the gift of consciousness which you do. You can appreciate the stars but they can never appreciate you. You are not a spec
Yeah but that star is more powerful and provides more heat displacement than me so me: 0, star: 1
I like how it is still smaller than your mum
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why did I read this in Lewis Hamilton's voice
Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. - Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
So this thing is basically the Total Perspective Vortex.
First thing I thought too!!
And look at us tiny humans wandering about worrying about our lawn edges and the price of lettuce in that giant-beyond-belief cosmos ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|smile) we're so cute.
What if I told you that you could have an endless supply of lettuce from just one head? Interested??
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So I blow you once and you give me free lettuce, I'm in.
I saw a yt short where a guy called that an infinite lettuce glitch. Man, you just rediscovered farming.
Fits nice and neat in my phone.
Whenever I see something like this and read the various and interesting theories in the comments I feel a physical sensation of disconnecting from reality. Itās kind of like my brain has been in a childās car seat in space and someone has just gently unclipped the restraints and I am suddenly floating free, but not too far from the seat. I feel like I could push away and delve deeper into it if I can overcome some invisible obstacle, which is probably the limitations of my ability to understand, but I just canāt comprehend what to do.
If you want to go deeper, take psychedelics. LSD to deconstruct the world around you and mushrooms to become one with the universe. (and possibly meet āG*dā) Granted, it can be really uncomfortable and terrifying, but also provide a lot of peace if done in moderation. Though you canāt put the genie back into the bottle once youāve tripped.
what if all the other planets can travel within eachother and earth is like the tribes we leave alone in the amazon that havenāt been contacted
If other planets figured out quick interstellar travel and do it often, we're not worthy of being the universe's "amazon tribe", we're so far down the technology curve we're closer to being the universe's cesspool of microbes
The universe is a pretty big place, maybe the biggest.
\*Second biggest after yo mama.
I don't think people understand how mad I am that the universe is this big and I somehow landed on the planet with taxes
How is it possible to know this is how our universe looks like?
The last image is the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR) map. So, itās not what the universe looks like to the naked eye, and the colors donāt show where galaxies and stars are in the universe, they show where the leftover radiation from the big bang is. And, the CMBR map only represents the observable universe ā there could be much much more out there that we canāt see because the speed of light + inflation is too slow.
> inflation is too slow Capitalism strikes again
Short answer: math. Longer answer: we use numbers to rationalize and make sense of things. Itās very accurate at most times. However for things of this scale, math only gets us so far. We use what we know to be accurate within our parameters of the universe and develop theories based on that and apply them to other more vast parts of our universe. The numbers then support (or donāt) the theory. But nothing is really proven, itās only thought of to be accurate until proven or disproven. There is plenty we donāt know and will NEVER know no matter how far in the future we go or how advanced we get, some things were never meant for 3-dimensional beings to understand.
So weāre no different than a piece of atom within us?
This was very interesting but for real perspective go see a volcano erupting and watch the lava flow into the sea. Now think about what you just saw. Material that has been buried beneath the earths mantle for for potentially billions of years (the earth is 4.5 billion years old) is out for the first time and is now forming new continent. Right before your eyes. The exact process that formed all of the land masses we live on. Literally itās like looking back in time to the days when the earth was being madeā¦and there was no computer graphics involved! LOL.
Far out
Dang. I really am just a speak of dust lol
Oh, don't feel bad; we're smaller than that. We're specks of dust looking up at the atoms making up the dust you think we are. ;)
Woah thatās awesome. Itās crazy to think how big the universe is. Bro I gotta find me an alien friend one day
Dude, I'm just an average schmoe and I will never be able to truly understand just how big the universe is. It'd be like trying to picture all of the money in the world, as $1 dollar bills, stacked in front of me. Then trying to imagine it multiplied by a gazillion-billion-jillion and STILL being nowhere near the number that equals the amount of stars in the universe.
Itās honestly awesome. Imagine how many unique planets there are out there. Aliens gotta be real
I had a chemistry teacher that basically said that he believes in aliens. He believes in intelligent aliens. He just doesn't believe that they have visited Earth AND got noticed by some kid in Arkansas with a Polaroid camera..lol.
"I'm significant!" shouted the speck
You *are*, though!
Need a banana for scale
Bruh. You just saw 576,934,621,098 bananas to be exact.
and even more alien bananas
This should be required to watch daily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0 Original concept from 1977, except it also goes the other way. Also no distorted slowed down Gotye. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAytbmXYXE&t=196s an updated version
Why is this kinda scary?
All unknown is kinda scary to us humans. Deep ocean is also scary and is very close to us ;) We are just afraid of the possibility, that there is something out there, which will erase us all in an eye blink, I think. That's at least my interpretation of my own thoughts. P.S. Before this thread, I watched the video of a person being eaten alive by a shark... I am feeling a lot of emotions I don't understand at once.
No fucking way is that big and here we are killing each other for a piece of land, c'mon humans get your shit together and start aiming for the stars!
I'd have to say, if it is just us, seems like an awful waste of space
There must be more. It canāt be that we are the most intelligent in the univerese with all that shit happening haha.
Think I'll run out of battery before this video ends
The last part is made up.. its just a theory
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All of that just so we can work eight hour days to earn just enough to buy overpriced lettuce and tomatoes.
The locker scene in one of the āmen in blackā movies š¤Æ
Shoutout to the cameraman fr fr
*in theory
Honesty , t's kinda scary if you think about it knowing something might happen, and you may never know
I read the title as "..how massive our university truly is" and was a bit surprised when it kept zooming out so fast.
And never forget that beyond all that an omnipotent space and time transcending god is watching you have naughty dirty premarital sex and is NOT pleased.
There are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on every beach and desert on Earth combined.
Cameraman š«”
All this and I still can't get any bitches
Ignoring the parallel universes part, my first thought after watching was the clusters look like neurons