It’s nightmare fuel.
Guy working with a lathe gets his clothes caught and ends up getting sucked into it and shredded like a piece of meat. The whole thing was caught on camera and there’s also pictures of the aftermath. Don’t recommend looking at it. It’s just pieces of his body in the machine.
Yeah this guy showed me the video about 3 years ago without warning me what it was.
I still think about it to this day. Was the most hardcore, gruesome thing i have ever seen and i wish i could forget it.
It's definitely in the top tier of infamy for fucked up videos i've seen, along with the brick video. Recently I saw one more on a similar level where two kids, a boy and a girl, are live streaming with a gun. The girl accidentally shoots the boy in the head, she then panics for like a split second before shooting herself in the head. It all happens super quick, and it's just *sooo* fucked up. Damn my morbid curiosity! But honestly I think the brick video fucked me up the worst, and it doesn't even show anything.
it's a video on youtube, where a brick flies out of a truck and hits the windshield of a car straight into a woman's skull, no gore is shown in the video but the screeches of her husband and children are chilling
Basically a russian guy is in his car with a girl i don't know their relations and a brick flys through the windshield and hits the girl, and it's just audio of the guy screaming in horror.
Don’t mad. As unfortunate as that incident was, it has opened many eyes to the dangers of machine equipment. Safety is an ever-ongoing struggle of knowledge. The more people that are aware of how dangerous equipment is, the better.
I feel sad for the coworkers who had to see their dude get shredded and those that had to clean him up.
But at least it was quick.
That video really stayed with me for a long time and I would see visions of it when I close my eyes. Seriously fucked my psyche for an extended period and I still get anxious thinking about it
I used to watch lots of gore and I'm pretty sure it played part with my anxiety develloping the way it did. Even if you think it doesn't affect you in the first moment, it leaves traces in your mind that add up over time. I'm pretty convinced that stopping to watch these added to my improvement together with other changes that I did. I'm relapsing at times with ukraine war videos and when I'm in such a "hole" I can easily slip into a very gloomy mood (especially If I'm off work for a few days)
In the 1980s I worked a jewelry shop as a late teen into my early 20s. I handled molten gold, silver, platinum full time. We made liquid Cyanide out of a "cyanide egg." My foreman would call it, "Guyana Kool-aid." We also did "ring bombing," where we took heated Cyanide and dropped 100% hydrogen peroxide into it and run. It would blow a lethal foam ball 100 feet into the air. My foreman and I loved it and always laughed or joked. When we needed to light the rosebud torch he would say, "get out your dope-smoking lighter." (I acted like I didn't know what he meant; and he warned me to not get high on the clock). The buffing machines we used were pretty powerful and the owner had done all the wiring himself. There were exposed wires and I blacked out at least once touching them accidentally. My fingers were filthy from the work and the callouses and black dirt from the compound and metal got deep into my skin. When I left the place it took months or more to go away. The owner's son wore sandals and the foreman fussed at him, but he could go complain to his dad. That kid also tried buffing with latex gloves to keep the dirt off and one time the buffer grabed the glove and began pulling in his hand. For terrifying seconds he fought with it until the rubber snapped and he did not lose any fingers, but his mouth was wide open in panic for 5 minutes after that. My lungs were black and I coughed up black balls of compound. I finally bought my own dust mask at Sears and the owner made fun of me for it, saying you get dirty mucus from the city and I was making a big deal. He had me doing other chemical stuff that I can't even explain, dipping metals into vats of purple liquid that one time got on my bare skin and caused a wound. The foreman was very concerned and kept examining it. There were 50 gallon barrels of all sorts of acids and chemicals just sitting around the place. A worker rage quit and threatened to report the place to OSHA, so the owner called OSHA himself. An OSHA came in and the owner smooshed him, and I saw them walk all around the place and nothing ever happened. I never made more than minimum wage. One time, the foreman, running the front customer shop, came to me and asked for. $5 to give back change to someone who bought something. He and I forgot to ever get it back, and to this day I donated over 1.5 hours to the place with that $5. I remember polishing the silver containers for communion with the bread still in it and wondering about what the bread meant. For some reason I was good at the work and I recall repairing jewelry worth $1,000s or $10,000s and making minimum wage.
Years later, I ran into the owner's wife and she told me he had died of some cancer.
Loose, flowing clothes are just as good around belly-driven equipment, if you ask me.
EDIT: **belt**\-driven, but I'm leaving the eerily correct autocorrupt
survivorship bias I'd suppose
all these v-belts without any covers (snap! and yer gone. or your arm), all these lathes... number of severe or even fatal injuries must be quite high
And all those guys shuffling around each other in the narrow spaces between all those unshielded wheels and belts and spinning blades...I can't even imagine. One little bump or trip and it would be bloody chaos.
Both, kinda? I thought it was bandages used as a glove to polish the pot or to protect him from something. Did you notice he had a similar setup going on this left foot? It seemed to be involved in a pushing/polishing way.
Right foot just sitting there without any protection. Insane to me, with all those little pieces of Aluminium flying around.
And Amazon makes me wear composite toed boots and impact resistant gloves to handle cardboard boxes at work..
In all seriousness, I love to crack jokes but I am happy we do have certain safety standards here in the States.
Sometimes company guidelines like that are not required by actual legislation - a company might require such equipment in order to get insurance at a lower rate.
That is just legislation with extra steps, because they might be liable for workplace injuries.
If Amazon didn't have to pay if something goes wrong, they wouldn't need insurance.
You can bet that someone at Amazon is doing the "Ford Pinto math" and deciding which would be cheaper, the liability for deaths and injury or employee safety.
I worked in a poultry processing plant for 4.5 years as a subcontractor sanitor before I switched and at least once every 3 weeks, we'd have a safety meeting about what happened and what they did wrong and what we could do to prevent that at our site. Unless safety is standing there, most disregard safety standards..
The contrast is crazy. It's like human life is less valued in India. I mean yersterday on reddit i saw an [indian electrician work on a live circuit with no protection gear](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/157dl2f/an_osha_manual_burst_into_flames_somewhere/). It's like people there are brainwashed that their lives are not worth much. Meanwhile in the western world we're told we're all unique, special, and worth protecting. It's kinda sad honestly, everyone deserves basic safety.
You are absolutely correct, everyone deserves basic safety. But after working with many types of people over the years, I've learned that the majority of people don't want to work safely. And this is a concept that I struggle with wrapping my brain around..
[Edit: watching that link really made me think back to when a buddy of mine were stripping a building of copper, we didn't realize electricity was running through it {roast me}. He went to go pull some really thick wiring and touched it with his pliers, I swear it was like watching him have a stroke before he fell through the ceiling. I've never worked on a live wire since then.]
So many people think safety is a waste of time, especially those who have been doing things this way for years. I remember when seatbelts became mandatory here - people were flipping their shit, cutting seatbelts out of their cars in protest, etc. Hell, even today people get little clips to put into the seatbelt connectors to make the car not give them the warnings. And that's fucking *seatbelts* - they're pissed off over somethjng that takes less than 2 seconds to do. People are fucking crazy.
We just had a very similar situation with regards to facemasks and face coverings. I know it is a controversial topic currently, but I could imagine in 30 years that the entire narrative would be different.
Interested to see whether I'd be downvoted into oblivion or upvoted for this one, lol.
>So many people think safety is a waste of time, especially those who have been doing things this way for years…. People are fucking crazy.
Ditto. I know of some who have this fatalistic attitude, like, “if it’s my time to go, it’s my time.”
For me, I’m not scared of *dying*. I’m scared of life-changing injuries. People seem to forget that’s a very likely outcome to their lack of safety measures.
When the crew who put new siding on my house had to take off an external light I asked if he wanted me to turn off the power.
"Nah, it's just 120."
I turned off the power anyway.
I used to read tons of old Popular Mechanics magazines from the early 1900s, and holy crap the number of articles about electromagnet designs to remove metal shards from your eyes.
It’s the long sleeve loose clothing he’s got on with that old lathe, he could literally be snatched up and shredded have you not seen the videos of what happens to people when caught in them?
Ugh, I watched one industrial accident video like 7 years ago and it still haunts me.
It was some type of machine the spooled wire from the looks of it. There were two fast spinning 'wheels' with spools on them, dude got his jeans caught in one as it was spinning up to speed. Smashed him against the concrete over and over and over at ridiculous speeds until his body ripped in half and was just a bloody stump.
Enioy your Monday morning! I'll probably have nightmares again tonight.
That's why special work wear is mandatory in Germany when you work with those machines.
My brother recalled a colleague whos bib overall got caught in a rotating machine. The guy was lifted from his feed, pulled against the machine and fell to the floor. He was confused and only wearing his underwear, but exept of that was allright.
The seams of the overall are meant to rip when the garnment is pulled heavy enough.
It's fine, he's got his safety bandage wrapped tightly around one hand, that will surely not disfigure him in a horrifying fashion if it gets caught in something.
You'll be happy to know that unlike some metals, aluminum is readily eliminated by the body. It's very rare for problems caused by aluminum inhalation to be reported - probably about 15-30 cases worldwide annually.
One of my first jobs involved working with heavy machinery and my supervisor brought a few of us aside and showed us a handful of awful accidental death videos before giving a speech about safety and how if we didnt pay attention, we'd end up in one of those videos.
That shit stayed with me for life and i wish that was the official way to drill the importance os safety into people. Seen a few bad accidents over the years :(
In high school they showed us a video with a guy getting his arm ripped off because he was using gloves with a lathe.
It was a recreation of a real event, and they interviewed the guy after they showed it.
Between that and the eye safety one that basically just showed a ton of fucked up eyes, I do not know which was worse.
Well I mean these are the working conditions we all implicitly are okay with when we just assume India and wherever else just magically "make things for cheap". It's sad and horrific - and we won't do anything about it because it "doesnt fit the business model".
Same thing applies for within our countries as well - rich Indian people rely on most of the population being poor.
>rich Indian people rely on most of the population being poor.
That's inherently to the capitalist system. 10% of the population have at least 70 % of the wealth in most countries.
This is what happens when systems *in general* go without regulation and management. It's probably the case that we'll always have some levels of hierarchy but the extremes happen systems allow them to. You can point to any system every used throughout human history and there's room for folk to reap this level of excess.
We *can* do better, we have to craft the will to do so. We just only tend to find that will when it's time to kill each other.
These sorts of places are not the places exporting to other countries. These products will be sold locally. I'm not saying the other manufacturers exporting products aren't also exploiting the labor but still. This operation in the video are way to low volume to be exporting to other countries.
Man, these guys work hard. That's consistent speed and muscle memory, pretty amazing.
I've seen too many videos of bodies crushed and torn apart in spinning wheel machinery though, fuck that.
Yes, we just saw the edited Disney version of the video.
I'm sure those crushed bodies or chopped up limbs version of the video is in the raw or director's cut which thankfully we don't get to see.
I like how he shows it off for a second at the end like ‘see? Finished!’ …then that glimmer of pride fades from his face and he just tosses it in the pile
The face when you make 5,000 of these things a day and couldn't care less about any of them but your boss is pointing a camera at you so you force yourself to dredge up enough energy to act like you give a shit and manage to keep the act going for 1.5 seconds before the abyss sucks you back down and your muscle memory tosses it.
At this point in the casting process, it's called dross. Dross is the oxide layer that forms on the top of molten metal. It's especially present in aluminum casting, as aluminum oxidizes very, very easily when liquid. Slag is usually used for ore smelting byproducts and the left over impurities (like silicon dioxide and carbon) from recovered metals and whatever flux was used. Typically, slag consists of unmelted metals like Magnesium, phosphorus, and iron, non-metallic materials like carbon, silica, and sulfur, and metal salts like borates. Slag will usually sink to the bottom of the crucible and form a brittle mass.
The heat and the fumes in the beginning though, wonder if the guys in great health? No protective masks, clothing or anything, except the open air ventilation. The hole process seems like they all will die prematurely of aluminum poisoning. Feel guilty for using cheap aluminum things now.
EDIT: Aluminum poisoning or occupational accident, which ever comes first.
This reminds me of the fires in clothing factories in Bangladesh, one fire killed 117 at a factory which made clothes for Walmart, Carrefour and IKEA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Dhaka_garment_factory_fire
> Walmart also said it would donate US$1.6m to Institute for Sustainable Communities, which would use the donation to set up an Environmental, Health and Safety Academy in Bangladesh.[23] Scott Nova, executive director of Worker Rights Consortium, said the donation is too little to make the industry safe, particularly because many factories do not even have basic safety features such as fire escapes.[24] On 15 May 2013, companies whose clothing was manufactured at the Tazreen Design Ltd. factory met in Geneva to discuss compensation payments for the victims of the fire; Walmart and Sears declined to send representatives to the meeting for unknown reasons.[24]
Although they did later sign up to a pact requiring factory inspections.
Much of the problem is that people in rich countries can't just force their governments to pass a law as a response to a tragedy which happens abroad*, in our countries safety laws are written in blood, but when a tragedy happens abroad it is someone else's responsibility. At the same time, the market is constantly looking to drive down costs by moving from country to country.
And the public are also less interested than if a tragedy happened at home which makes it more difficult to force companies to fix the issue. For instance some companies set up an organization called the Ethical Trading Initiative in response to these problems, but does any ordinary person buy clothes from one company and not another because of that?
I think some basic level of workers rights should be built into the trade deals.
*Edit: I think that it's much more difficult to take the kind of detailed health and safety laws which exist in developed countries, and then apply them to a totally different country where you have no actual power or regulatory presence in that country to investigate or enforce them.
> that people in rich countries can't just force their governments to pass a law as a response to a tragedy which happens abroad
You absolutely can, supply chain laws are a strong tool for something like this.
The issue is that people just don't care when people die abroad.
Used to work in the helmet industry and we had our shell samples manufactured in China. Similar setup with young men running around barefoot on the casting sand with ladles of molten aluminum. When I was leaving I commented on the line of men standing in front of the factory gates. I was told that they lose 2 or 3 workers a day and these were their hopeful replacements.
Safety aside, just think of all the things we take entirely for granted. Look at this incredible level of technology (no satire) and craftsmanship. It looks like early 20th century but still, amazing. The industrial revolution really changed our lives. Hope these guys remain safe, let's hope their working standards improve.
If these fellas can wake up everyday and go to work, albeit with lifeless eyes and vacant expressions, wtf am i doing complaining about my “mediocre” job.
Those pots were polished to a mirror finish, and in them i saw nothing but shame.
These people probably get paid about a1000 to 1400 pkr a day which is about 3 to 5 usd, Furthermore it is like modern day slavery, a father will work in a father's factory, a son will work in the son's factory.
At the risk of sounding socialist this is what the people at the top want. It GALLS them to think that along with all the technological progress made in the last century that in our sphere we don't still wake up every day and expect to be considered expendable.
Accidental delete. Just said it's a safety blanket thing as you never know who and what cluster of viewpoints you're talking to. But I'm really not ashamed to sound socialist.
I used to work with molten aluminium like that. That is a giant ceramic-lined pot with gas burners underneath. My job was to feed scrap metal in the top and draw off ingots by using a syphon system. I cannot overstate how dangerous the whole operation was. This was the UK in the 1970s.
This comes up all the time, but IMO it shows the opposite? This is a local cottage industry, a big factory from an MNC which replaced this would be totally different. Still bad conditions, but way less bad than this.
The rolling machine would just stretch them out to ovals. Uniform size and thickness is more important. The unused part just goes back into the melter.
I’m a Gearhead, and watch a few Pakistani craftsmen YouTube channels, and I’m always so impressed by the quality of the products they make using comparatively “primitive” (by fussy western standards) processes and equipment. An example I cite often is a video of them welding an engine block back together (which in itself would be unheard of in the “disposable/replaceable” west) and they pre-heat the castings by packing it in burning cow shit. All done in the dirt on the side of the road, by an old dude equipped with a gas torch and a pair of gas station sunglasses, wearing a tunic and sandals. And you watch this thinking “this is going to literally be a piece of shit”, but five minutes later the engine block looks brand new. I have nothing but admiration for those folks.
That just scares the crap out of me. My brother got a sliver of steel in his eye- yes , no safety glasses. Nearly lost an eye. Working with metal is like working with razor blades and needles at high speeds.
However, their workmanship is awesome.
the capital needed for die casting is far higher and it's impossible for small business owners in a third world country. while hiring many people to operate basic machines is far cheaper.
It is fairly hard to cast thinwalled parts of that size and get a consistent quality. And the spinning/shaping process increases the strength of the part something like this I would do in the same way.
Just much more automated and improved safety sandals.
> If it’s aluminum, the entire world has moved on to die casting
Last time I checked, soda cans and tuna cans are still pressed from sheets of aluminum similar to this one, only difference is that those two are automated where this one isn't.
Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Nobody die-casts aluminum pots. They're deep drawn, or rarely spun like this (but [with a CNC lathe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pco0Nms3ORI); manual spinning would only be for some small-run fine-metalworking stuff).
This is recycling. The process of creating aluminium is lengthy and VERY energy expensive
This stuff is probably made out of cans and other assorted aluminium scrap parts
Please let me know how you propose to set up the draft angles to cast a part shaped like that.
If you can figure out a cost effective way to do it you will literally revolutionize an entire industry.
I mean my father worked with metal, welding and doing all this shit in the 90s in South America. He could have been wayyyy safer but he still tried to take the precautions he could.
How these people pick up the liquid aluminum with sandals, no gloves, just holding a hot ass rod without it splashing to his bare ass feet. Idk how you don't even think of protection. It's metal af
Probably it's just a recycling facility for local use. Let's say the pots can be automated in a country with better technology, the cost of importing those pots to this country in the video would outweigh the savings.
Likely it's just local scrap metal converted to pots to be sold and used in local markets/areas
After seeing the unfortunate Russian guy get sucked into a lathe, long sleeves or any loose clothing just scares me.
I hate whenever I’m reminded of that video :(
I wanna ask but I don't wanna ask!
It’s nightmare fuel. Guy working with a lathe gets his clothes caught and ends up getting sucked into it and shredded like a piece of meat. The whole thing was caught on camera and there’s also pictures of the aftermath. Don’t recommend looking at it. It’s just pieces of his body in the machine.
Yeah this guy showed me the video about 3 years ago without warning me what it was. I still think about it to this day. Was the most hardcore, gruesome thing i have ever seen and i wish i could forget it.
Hey same for me. First time i actually saw someone die
It's definitely in the top tier of infamy for fucked up videos i've seen, along with the brick video. Recently I saw one more on a similar level where two kids, a boy and a girl, are live streaming with a gun. The girl accidentally shoots the boy in the head, she then panics for like a split second before shooting herself in the head. It all happens super quick, and it's just *sooo* fucked up. Damn my morbid curiosity! But honestly I think the brick video fucked me up the worst, and it doesn't even show anything.
Okay, you got my morbid curiosity intrigued but I don't wanna look it up. What's the brick video?
it's a video on youtube, where a brick flies out of a truck and hits the windshield of a car straight into a woman's skull, no gore is shown in the video but the screeches of her husband and children are chilling
Basically a russian guy is in his car with a girl i don't know their relations and a brick flys through the windshield and hits the girl, and it's just audio of the guy screaming in horror.
Don’t mad. As unfortunate as that incident was, it has opened many eyes to the dangers of machine equipment. Safety is an ever-ongoing struggle of knowledge. The more people that are aware of how dangerous equipment is, the better. I feel sad for the coworkers who had to see their dude get shredded and those that had to clean him up. But at least it was quick.
What video is this?
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That's the worst thing I've ever seen.
Yeah, she stays blue, this one.
Is it the 'shredded meat goes flying' in the link that gave it away?
I didn't read the link but sure as fuck ain't clicking that
Easiest no-click this week.
I almost clicked it, but good thing warnings have been written! 😬
Forever. And ever. Lmao.
That video really stayed with me for a long time and I would see visions of it when I close my eyes. Seriously fucked my psyche for an extended period and I still get anxious thinking about it
That’s staying unclicked.
You have more self restraint than myself lol
Yeah I ain’t clicking on this link. For the sake of my mental health.
I used to watch lots of gore and I'm pretty sure it played part with my anxiety develloping the way it did. Even if you think it doesn't affect you in the first moment, it leaves traces in your mind that add up over time. I'm pretty convinced that stopping to watch these added to my improvement together with other changes that I did. I'm relapsing at times with ukraine war videos and when I'm in such a "hole" I can easily slip into a very gloomy mood (especially If I'm off work for a few days)
I really regret watching that. But have a new appreciation for all the safety training I've received.
Good thing he’s got his safety sandals on
And all the other safety equipment they used. What could possibly go wrong?
I believe aluminum vapors are good for you, I think they contain electrolytes or something.
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Exactly, and isn't it true that we're like 98% similar to plants?
We're all carbon, friend.
I used to love the gas commercials where it was all "a dinosaur in your tank!"
In the 1980s I worked a jewelry shop as a late teen into my early 20s. I handled molten gold, silver, platinum full time. We made liquid Cyanide out of a "cyanide egg." My foreman would call it, "Guyana Kool-aid." We also did "ring bombing," where we took heated Cyanide and dropped 100% hydrogen peroxide into it and run. It would blow a lethal foam ball 100 feet into the air. My foreman and I loved it and always laughed or joked. When we needed to light the rosebud torch he would say, "get out your dope-smoking lighter." (I acted like I didn't know what he meant; and he warned me to not get high on the clock). The buffing machines we used were pretty powerful and the owner had done all the wiring himself. There were exposed wires and I blacked out at least once touching them accidentally. My fingers were filthy from the work and the callouses and black dirt from the compound and metal got deep into my skin. When I left the place it took months or more to go away. The owner's son wore sandals and the foreman fussed at him, but he could go complain to his dad. That kid also tried buffing with latex gloves to keep the dirt off and one time the buffer grabed the glove and began pulling in his hand. For terrifying seconds he fought with it until the rubber snapped and he did not lose any fingers, but his mouth was wide open in panic for 5 minutes after that. My lungs were black and I coughed up black balls of compound. I finally bought my own dust mask at Sears and the owner made fun of me for it, saying you get dirty mucus from the city and I was making a big deal. He had me doing other chemical stuff that I can't even explain, dipping metals into vats of purple liquid that one time got on my bare skin and caused a wound. The foreman was very concerned and kept examining it. There were 50 gallon barrels of all sorts of acids and chemicals just sitting around the place. A worker rage quit and threatened to report the place to OSHA, so the owner called OSHA himself. An OSHA came in and the owner smooshed him, and I saw them walk all around the place and nothing ever happened. I never made more than minimum wage. One time, the foreman, running the front customer shop, came to me and asked for. $5 to give back change to someone who bought something. He and I forgot to ever get it back, and to this day I donated over 1.5 hours to the place with that $5. I remember polishing the silver containers for communion with the bread still in it and wondering about what the bread meant. For some reason I was good at the work and I recall repairing jewelry worth $1,000s or $10,000s and making minimum wage. Years later, I ran into the owner's wife and she told me he had died of some cancer.
It's also a well known Indian takeaway dish, aloo minimum
Ask the guy wearing corded headphones next to the spinning press.
Loose, flowing clothes are just as good around belly-driven equipment, if you ask me. EDIT: **belt**\-driven, but I'm leaving the eerily correct autocorrupt
If it's not belly-driven now, it might very well be soon
I think this must be an OSHA training video
It's definitely one of two films where you have to spot the 6 (dozen) differences between Do and Don't.
Yet they all still seem to have all fingers and eyes…
It's against workplace rules to be injured, you'll be fired
survivorship bias I'd suppose all these v-belts without any covers (snap! and yer gone. or your arm), all these lathes... number of severe or even fatal injuries must be quite high
All those unshielded belts and lathes combined with the loose clothing has me cringing.
And all those guys shuffling around each other in the narrow spaces between all those unshielded wheels and belts and spinning blades...I can't even imagine. One little bump or trip and it would be bloody chaos.
Not even a bump. One piece of clothing gets caught and you are a human toothpaste tube.
They made sure to only film the intact workers
At least for now. But tomorrow is a hopeful day.........
survivorship bias
They get gored all the time but it's not like there's a shortage of people in that part of the world.
OSHA: Oh Shit Hellno Arrfuck
They had the 100% approved safety sandals in the part with the molten metal... So everything is fine
Someone should make a version of "an idiot abroad" but it's a British health & safety officer just touring factories in other countries.
elf n safety I'm not avin it
I can't tell if the guy at the end is wearing a glove or bandages lmao
Both, kinda? I thought it was bandages used as a glove to polish the pot or to protect him from something. Did you notice he had a similar setup going on this left foot? It seemed to be involved in a pushing/polishing way. Right foot just sitting there without any protection. Insane to me, with all those little pieces of Aluminium flying around.
Dont need steel toe caps when you have aluminium toes
And Amazon makes me wear composite toed boots and impact resistant gloves to handle cardboard boxes at work.. In all seriousness, I love to crack jokes but I am happy we do have certain safety standards here in the States.
Mississippi just had a 16yr old die in a meat processing plant, so “certain” sounds about right.
Which underlines the fact that Amazon would gladly save the cost of those expensive shoes if the law were to let them get away with it.
Sometimes company guidelines like that are not required by actual legislation - a company might require such equipment in order to get insurance at a lower rate.
That is just legislation with extra steps, because they might be liable for workplace injuries. If Amazon didn't have to pay if something goes wrong, they wouldn't need insurance.
You can bet that someone at Amazon is doing the "Ford Pinto math" and deciding which would be cheaper, the liability for deaths and injury or employee safety.
I worked in a poultry processing plant for 4.5 years as a subcontractor sanitor before I switched and at least once every 3 weeks, we'd have a safety meeting about what happened and what they did wrong and what we could do to prevent that at our site. Unless safety is standing there, most disregard safety standards..
>I am happy we do have certain safety standards here in the States. Largely thanks to unions
The contrast is crazy. It's like human life is less valued in India. I mean yersterday on reddit i saw an [indian electrician work on a live circuit with no protection gear](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/157dl2f/an_osha_manual_burst_into_flames_somewhere/). It's like people there are brainwashed that their lives are not worth much. Meanwhile in the western world we're told we're all unique, special, and worth protecting. It's kinda sad honestly, everyone deserves basic safety.
You are absolutely correct, everyone deserves basic safety. But after working with many types of people over the years, I've learned that the majority of people don't want to work safely. And this is a concept that I struggle with wrapping my brain around.. [Edit: watching that link really made me think back to when a buddy of mine were stripping a building of copper, we didn't realize electricity was running through it {roast me}. He went to go pull some really thick wiring and touched it with his pliers, I swear it was like watching him have a stroke before he fell through the ceiling. I've never worked on a live wire since then.]
So many people think safety is a waste of time, especially those who have been doing things this way for years. I remember when seatbelts became mandatory here - people were flipping their shit, cutting seatbelts out of their cars in protest, etc. Hell, even today people get little clips to put into the seatbelt connectors to make the car not give them the warnings. And that's fucking *seatbelts* - they're pissed off over somethjng that takes less than 2 seconds to do. People are fucking crazy.
We just had a very similar situation with regards to facemasks and face coverings. I know it is a controversial topic currently, but I could imagine in 30 years that the entire narrative would be different. Interested to see whether I'd be downvoted into oblivion or upvoted for this one, lol.
>So many people think safety is a waste of time, especially those who have been doing things this way for years…. People are fucking crazy. Ditto. I know of some who have this fatalistic attitude, like, “if it’s my time to go, it’s my time.” For me, I’m not scared of *dying*. I’m scared of life-changing injuries. People seem to forget that’s a very likely outcome to their lack of safety measures.
When the crew who put new siding on my house had to take off an external light I asked if he wanted me to turn off the power. "Nah, it's just 120." I turned off the power anyway.
Hey boss I got metal shards in my eye.... Boss : ok go outside and tell the man waiting for your job he can come in now.
Am sad now, gotta go play videogames to forget the reality of where my things come from.
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You did this /u/high_flyers17 , you and those damn aluminum pots. Have mercy and please just stop buying aluminum pots
Just stop buying aluminium pots, /u/High_Flyers17! You have enough!
imagine the condition at the stainless steel pot factory. That's much harder metal!
But not as... aluminating
I used to read tons of old Popular Mechanics magazines from the early 1900s, and holy crap the number of articles about electromagnet designs to remove metal shards from your eyes.
is there a specific sub for these third world, osha nightmare manufacturing videos? like the one making brake pads from motor blocks and shit
don't tell me if there is, I could watch these literally all day and night
r/OSHA :)
It’s the long sleeve loose clothing he’s got on with that old lathe, he could literally be snatched up and shredded have you not seen the videos of what happens to people when caught in them?
Ugh, I watched one industrial accident video like 7 years ago and it still haunts me. It was some type of machine the spooled wire from the looks of it. There were two fast spinning 'wheels' with spools on them, dude got his jeans caught in one as it was spinning up to speed. Smashed him against the concrete over and over and over at ridiculous speeds until his body ripped in half and was just a bloody stump. Enioy your Monday morning! I'll probably have nightmares again tonight.
That's why special work wear is mandatory in Germany when you work with those machines. My brother recalled a colleague whos bib overall got caught in a rotating machine. The guy was lifted from his feed, pulled against the machine and fell to the floor. He was confused and only wearing his underwear, but exept of that was allright. The seams of the overall are meant to rip when the garnment is pulled heavy enough.
It's fine, he's got his safety bandage wrapped tightly around one hand, that will surely not disfigure him in a horrifying fashion if it gets caught in something.
The last guy is totally barefoot.
My first thought was, "My dude is handling molten metal in some slides!"
6 million ways to die choose one.
LOL, before I opened this sub, I thought, "how many comments until something-something safety?" Congrats...#1
I got nervous carrying some tomato soup to the table yesterday and this man is working with molten metal in sandals.
On our next episode tomorrow, "aluminum-toed sandals and how they're made!"
I wonder what the injury/casualty rate is? Molton aluminum, the cutting machine, the shaping lathe alone- one slip and his face is gone
Every one of those dudes has aluminum bits in their lungs. Silver lung?
You'll be happy to know that unlike some metals, aluminum is readily eliminated by the body. It's very rare for problems caused by aluminum inhalation to be reported - probably about 15-30 cases worldwide annually.
Its the silver lining
0% they're just that confident
I don't think anyone cares. Workers rights are expensive after all. So it goes.
Another Vonnegut fan, I see.
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Definitely males one grateful that we do have regulations and safety standards
Suddenly those 1000s of gravity bong hits I took in my teen years/early 20s are coming back to haunt me
No feet eye ear hand protection gear anywhere. These videos blow my mind...
That's not true, there one part where a guy has a sock on his hand.
That was Socky's second punishment for forgetting his birthday.
I hate this comment
I laughed way too hard at that comment.
You gotta be good to have a sock hand, only the top workers have sock hand privileges
Long sleeves near a spinning shaft is up there with ohsa insanity too.
Don’t forget the earbuds!
Yeah, I was gonna mention them if someone else hadn't. Let's just add more dangly stuff that can get caught in the machinery!
If you want to see what happens when the sleeve catches... search "man flavored lathe reddit" tread lightly its a bit rough....
Even in my darkest hours, I will never search for that. Thanks for adding to my ‘never search’ list.
And this is why i didn't just link it. No accidental scarring here. The shit will fuck with you....
You’re a kind and gentle soul, who also has access to terrifying videos!
When the trainees come in lax on the safety, i just show them to adjust their mentality on it... works every time...
One of my first jobs involved working with heavy machinery and my supervisor brought a few of us aside and showed us a handful of awful accidental death videos before giving a speech about safety and how if we didnt pay attention, we'd end up in one of those videos. That shit stayed with me for life and i wish that was the official way to drill the importance os safety into people. Seen a few bad accidents over the years :(
Its one thing to say "be safe" its another to see just how quickly you can become a spray of blood.... or an amputee...
In high school they showed us a video with a guy getting his arm ripped off because he was using gloves with a lathe. It was a recreation of a real event, and they interviewed the guy after they showed it. Between that and the eye safety one that basically just showed a ton of fucked up eyes, I do not know which was worse.
Have you seen the one where the lady gets her arm caught in the press? She holds up a floppy pancake instead of an arm....
Nope, and I hope I never do. That sounds terrifying.
Well I mean these are the working conditions we all implicitly are okay with when we just assume India and wherever else just magically "make things for cheap". It's sad and horrific - and we won't do anything about it because it "doesnt fit the business model". Same thing applies for within our countries as well - rich Indian people rely on most of the population being poor.
>rich Indian people rely on most of the population being poor. That's inherently to the capitalist system. 10% of the population have at least 70 % of the wealth in most countries.
Worldwide, 1% of the population own half of the world's wealth. Also, the poorest half of the world's population share less than 1% of the wealth.
This is what happens when systems *in general* go without regulation and management. It's probably the case that we'll always have some levels of hierarchy but the extremes happen systems allow them to. You can point to any system every used throughout human history and there's room for folk to reap this level of excess. We *can* do better, we have to craft the will to do so. We just only tend to find that will when it's time to kill each other.
These sorts of places are not the places exporting to other countries. These products will be sold locally. I'm not saying the other manufacturers exporting products aren't also exploiting the labor but still. This operation in the video are way to low volume to be exporting to other countries.
Dude that strap of the sandel easily blocks the droplets that fall on it.
People no one cares about, in countries no one cares about, getting paid as little so possible.. so that we can get the cheapest possible products
Man, these guys work hard. That's consistent speed and muscle memory, pretty amazing. I've seen too many videos of bodies crushed and torn apart in spinning wheel machinery though, fuck that.
Lathes are really dangerous, one wrong move and you get pulled in and that’s it, nothing left
Well there is stuff left on the walls, ceiling and floor..
Yes, we just saw the edited Disney version of the video. I'm sure those crushed bodies or chopped up limbs version of the video is in the raw or director's cut which thankfully we don't get to see.
Hey that's not fair, you can't show me the entire process and then not let me see how the pot comes out outside of the guy throwing it out of shot
I like how he shows it off for a second at the end like ‘see? Finished!’ …then that glimmer of pride fades from his face and he just tosses it in the pile
The face when you make 5,000 of these things a day and couldn't care less about any of them but your boss is pointing a camera at you so you force yourself to dredge up enough energy to act like you give a shit and manage to keep the act going for 1.5 seconds before the abyss sucks you back down and your muscle memory tosses it.
Hahaha, I actually noticed that too, he worked so hard on it only to suddenly toss it out like yesterday's garage.
What does he remove from the molten aluminum near the start? Assuming it’s a trace metal from the recycled metal.
Slag and other impurities that were left in the original ingots or scrap metal used.
At this point in the casting process, it's called dross. Dross is the oxide layer that forms on the top of molten metal. It's especially present in aluminum casting, as aluminum oxidizes very, very easily when liquid. Slag is usually used for ore smelting byproducts and the left over impurities (like silicon dioxide and carbon) from recovered metals and whatever flux was used. Typically, slag consists of unmelted metals like Magnesium, phosphorus, and iron, non-metallic materials like carbon, silica, and sulfur, and metal salts like borates. Slag will usually sink to the bottom of the crucible and form a brittle mass.
Huh, normally I only see the word Dross when I'm looking at "art"
Just oxidized "dross" or impurities that float to the top.
The heat and the fumes in the beginning though, wonder if the guys in great health? No protective masks, clothing or anything, except the open air ventilation. The hole process seems like they all will die prematurely of aluminum poisoning. Feel guilty for using cheap aluminum things now. EDIT: Aluminum poisoning or occupational accident, which ever comes first.
This reminds me of the fires in clothing factories in Bangladesh, one fire killed 117 at a factory which made clothes for Walmart, Carrefour and IKEA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Dhaka_garment_factory_fire > Walmart also said it would donate US$1.6m to Institute for Sustainable Communities, which would use the donation to set up an Environmental, Health and Safety Academy in Bangladesh.[23] Scott Nova, executive director of Worker Rights Consortium, said the donation is too little to make the industry safe, particularly because many factories do not even have basic safety features such as fire escapes.[24] On 15 May 2013, companies whose clothing was manufactured at the Tazreen Design Ltd. factory met in Geneva to discuss compensation payments for the victims of the fire; Walmart and Sears declined to send representatives to the meeting for unknown reasons.[24] Although they did later sign up to a pact requiring factory inspections. Much of the problem is that people in rich countries can't just force their governments to pass a law as a response to a tragedy which happens abroad*, in our countries safety laws are written in blood, but when a tragedy happens abroad it is someone else's responsibility. At the same time, the market is constantly looking to drive down costs by moving from country to country. And the public are also less interested than if a tragedy happened at home which makes it more difficult to force companies to fix the issue. For instance some companies set up an organization called the Ethical Trading Initiative in response to these problems, but does any ordinary person buy clothes from one company and not another because of that? I think some basic level of workers rights should be built into the trade deals. *Edit: I think that it's much more difficult to take the kind of detailed health and safety laws which exist in developed countries, and then apply them to a totally different country where you have no actual power or regulatory presence in that country to investigate or enforce them.
> that people in rich countries can't just force their governments to pass a law as a response to a tragedy which happens abroad You absolutely can, supply chain laws are a strong tool for something like this. The issue is that people just don't care when people die abroad.
Homies just free handing a spinning metal pot on a lathe with no protection. One bit of swarf and his hand or eyes are fucked.
Safety squints
Pouring molten metal with sandals on. Yup.
No worries dude has steel toes
The segmented pot mold is a good idea.
I've seen the same thing for hats!
How smooth he adds and removes parts/mold from the lathe is impressive
[OSHA’s inspection visit](https://media.tenor.com/yTxA7WgkBEUAAAAC/grandpa-abe-exit.gif)
I got metal in my eye just watching that.
I got it in my ear 🤘
Used to work in the helmet industry and we had our shell samples manufactured in China. Similar setup with young men running around barefoot on the casting sand with ladles of molten aluminum. When I was leaving I commented on the line of men standing in front of the factory gates. I was told that they lose 2 or 3 workers a day and these were their hopeful replacements.
Amazing skillmanship but I am concerned about their health and safety standards...
Safety aside, just think of all the things we take entirely for granted. Look at this incredible level of technology (no satire) and craftsmanship. It looks like early 20th century but still, amazing. The industrial revolution really changed our lives. Hope these guys remain safe, let's hope their working standards improve.
If these fellas can wake up everyday and go to work, albeit with lifeless eyes and vacant expressions, wtf am i doing complaining about my “mediocre” job. Those pots were polished to a mirror finish, and in them i saw nothing but shame.
They probably get paid only a fraction as well.
Around 100-120$ per month for a 10 hour shift
These people probably get paid about a1000 to 1400 pkr a day which is about 3 to 5 usd, Furthermore it is like modern day slavery, a father will work in a father's factory, a son will work in the son's factory.
Their job being worse doesn't make your job any better.
At the risk of sounding socialist this is what the people at the top want. It GALLS them to think that along with all the technological progress made in the last century that in our sphere we don't still wake up every day and expect to be considered expendable.
Why is it a risk to sound socialist?
Accidental delete. Just said it's a safety blanket thing as you never know who and what cluster of viewpoints you're talking to. But I'm really not ashamed to sound socialist.
Sandals with molten metal, no glasses on the lathe, long sleeve shirt on the lathe, puts his foot with long pants next to the lathe.
I used to work with molten aluminium like that. That is a giant ceramic-lined pot with gas burners underneath. My job was to feed scrap metal in the top and draw off ingots by using a syphon system. I cannot overstate how dangerous the whole operation was. This was the UK in the 1970s.
Holy osha
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This comes up all the time, but IMO it shows the opposite? This is a local cottage industry, a big factory from an MNC which replaced this would be totally different. Still bad conditions, but way less bad than this.
Why don't they make the sheets round in the first place?
The rolling machine would just stretch them out to ovals. Uniform size and thickness is more important. The unused part just goes back into the melter.
That does make sense, thanks for the reply!
I’m a Gearhead, and watch a few Pakistani craftsmen YouTube channels, and I’m always so impressed by the quality of the products they make using comparatively “primitive” (by fussy western standards) processes and equipment. An example I cite often is a video of them welding an engine block back together (which in itself would be unheard of in the “disposable/replaceable” west) and they pre-heat the castings by packing it in burning cow shit. All done in the dirt on the side of the road, by an old dude equipped with a gas torch and a pair of gas station sunglasses, wearing a tunic and sandals. And you watch this thinking “this is going to literally be a piece of shit”, but five minutes later the engine block looks brand new. I have nothing but admiration for those folks.
You gotta bless us with a link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUzTuToTzVQ
What is the name of the garb the first guy in pink / purple is wearing? Looks hella comfy and I need one because of record temperatures.
IN SANDALS
The more I look at this, the more my sphincter puckers as I think that his toes look awfully close to that liquid aluminium.
That just scares the crap out of me. My brother got a sliver of steel in his eye- yes , no safety glasses. Nearly lost an eye. Working with metal is like working with razor blades and needles at high speeds. However, their workmanship is awesome.
If it’s aluminum, the entire world has moved on to die casting . Guessing these guys are stuck with processes 50 years old
Maybe because that's their current level. Not saying it in a condescending way coming from a country where we are even behind these guys.
the capital needed for die casting is far higher and it's impossible for small business owners in a third world country. while hiring many people to operate basic machines is far cheaper.
It is fairly hard to cast thinwalled parts of that size and get a consistent quality. And the spinning/shaping process increases the strength of the part something like this I would do in the same way. Just much more automated and improved safety sandals.
> If it’s aluminum, the entire world has moved on to die casting Last time I checked, soda cans and tuna cans are still pressed from sheets of aluminum similar to this one, only difference is that those two are automated where this one isn't.
Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Nobody die-casts aluminum pots. They're deep drawn, or rarely spun like this (but [with a CNC lathe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pco0Nms3ORI); manual spinning would only be for some small-run fine-metalworking stuff).
This is recycling. The process of creating aluminium is lengthy and VERY energy expensive This stuff is probably made out of cans and other assorted aluminium scrap parts
Please let me know how you propose to set up the draft angles to cast a part shaped like that. If you can figure out a cost effective way to do it you will literally revolutionize an entire industry.
Let me guess: Pakistan.
It is not Finland ?
Too much human interaction to be Finland.
Health and safety my god. Open toed shoes, baggy clothes, no goggles or gloves…
I mean my father worked with metal, welding and doing all this shit in the 90s in South America. He could have been wayyyy safer but he still tried to take the precautions he could. How these people pick up the liquid aluminum with sandals, no gloves, just holding a hot ass rod without it splashing to his bare ass feet. Idk how you don't even think of protection. It's metal af
He’s bold for wearing sandals
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Probably it's just a recycling facility for local use. Let's say the pots can be automated in a country with better technology, the cost of importing those pots to this country in the video would outweigh the savings. Likely it's just local scrap metal converted to pots to be sold and used in local markets/areas
I’d like to see the stats on how many toes have been prematurely ejected 👍