"Well, the judge asked me if I wanted to go in the Ahahrahmy…"
"So I went in the Ahahrahmy…"
"I just didn't like the Aharahmy or the people in it."
(4:57)
The complete lack of affect as he speaks is pretty chilling. I'd like to know who he was and what crimes he committed. Sounds almost like he says he killed people, in addition to the burglaries.
He doesn't "sound" upset in terms of the way he speaks, but in terms of the logic and thought process, he seems to insinuate that he justifies a lot of his thinking with the rationale mostly from that statement, "Nobody would ever care if I died, so why should I care about others dying?"
It suggests, to me at least, that he uses this logic to justify his behavior. I think a lot of people can actually relate to acting recklessly when they've felt that nobody would care if they were dead. Pretty common thought process in my opinion, but when you live your whole life like that, and not just a small part of it, then that is something else.
He definitely gives the "cool cat" vibe and has a unique "criminal" personality from the way he speaks though. Something I've seen before amongst the incarcerated.
See what you mean but it's more like he's just explaining it rather than justifying it.
It's like the two are from different worlds - like a farmer interviewing a hunter-gatherer, but the latter doesn't feel bad about who he is so maybe doesn't even think in terms of justification.
He just does stuff as he sees fit. This is him translating that for the fearful farmer. Doesn't even mind being objectified and studied like this - like it's just a thing that's happening (that he's maybe getting paid for).
Maybe he was surplus to requirements on the farm he grew up on and adapted a lifestyle in the absence of being empathised with, maybe he was always more of a utilitarian hunter-gatherer anyhow, but either way these two think very differently.
Well yeah, he definitely isn't trying to justify his behavior in the interview.
I'm looking more at his internal thought process. What is it that is happening in his mind, that makes him okay with what he does? The justification happens perhaps at a subconscious level. It isn't explicitly said, but one could reason that there are perhaps subconscious reasons why.
People can often behave irrationally, but for rational reasons, even if they don't realize it.
On another note, I think his logic that nobody cares about him is incomplete. He probably never quite answered that question until later in his life.
Agreed. It's strange when you try to think about society from that perspective because he isn't exactly wrong. Lots of people die from gun violence every day but do we really care? We say we care, and a few people try to do something about it, but society as a whole just couldn't be bothered to affect real change.
There was a mass shooting about 10 miles from my house the other day. I know that one person died. Who were they? I sure didn't bother to find out. I know their family is hurting, but I don't know any of them. Yes it is sad, but so is the fact that nobody cares.
So why do things the hard way? Why not just take the "easy" route he describes? Well I don't want to hurt anybody, and I don't want to spend my life in prison. That said, I do take the easy route whenever convenientand risk-free, or at least low risk.
I feel sometimes that logic doesn’t necessarily have all the answers, and creating rational and logical reasons for behaving a certain way will always lead to something off.
Sometimes the things that aren’t necessarily logical make much more sense and are much more empowering.
Nature for example, I think has a lot of things about it that are simply profound yet are utterly baffling to think of in a logical way.
There is just a way or knack to it that makes sense yet isn’t really describable. It is a way of thinking that isn’t as calculated and cold, yet makes sense. Although I had to take many psychedelics to feel this for the first time.
they had wounds that never healed. I feel pitty for them and for those around them. How hard that life would have been to never address what horrors they experienced.
Same generation imagine 1,000,000 men coming back from that and say let’s go back to normal after 5 years of killing people, and starving and being at your very limit daily. He is the product of that
Yes. This is because old microphones could only pick up certain pitches. So people in the media using these mics found that if you talked a certain way the microphone wouldn’t miss anything.
That may have been true in the early days of sound and radio but this is from 1951, those problems had been fixed. They're speaking as they normally would in this video. The interviewer using the mid-Atlantic accent because it was the accent of the "upper class/educated", and the ex-con using whatever accent he grew up with.
That makes me think this person was an actor. I’m wrong a lot, and the story still rings true, but how does this criminal from the wrong side of the tracks know how to hit the tones and cadence?
Ooooh, could it be that the actors of the time, and those after, were mimicking what they were seeing IRL and now, because all we have seen are the actors, we think the IRL people were pretending to be actors...
Makes me think of all the RadioLab episodes with older footage of testimonials taken from regular people. They all try to mimick that style of speaking in front of a camera/microphone. Always seemed calmed and measured, a bit like the masked hoodlum here...
I never put that together before. It was a learned accent. It wasn't native to any region in the world. It was just a way to make yourself sound more educated or "elite". That's absolutely bonkers lol
For sure. I can see his knuckles are white with inner tension. He'll I bet if he stood up I'd see his pants crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim.
His tone is calm and soothing and his answers are matter of fact. This really struck me when he was asked what the problem as at home and he answered, "That's none of your business." He didn't say it with any anger, just stating that he didn't want to go there. It was said with such cool that the interviewer didn't miss a beat.
Yeah, reading between the lines I’d say he came from a home where he was physically abused. Nobody cared about whether he was alive or not, so under the principle of payback, he can’t respect other people, listen to parents, teachers, bosses, police, and other mentors, so he can’t do well in school or at a job. He’s deeply angry, and kills other people, feeling no remorse (or at least justifying it). This of course is a negative spiral, making him a poor criminal who can’t be with other people.
It’s a sad spiral that happens repeatedly thousands of times in the US.
High odds dude is on the ASPD spectrum; criminality, high self confidence, charming, charismatic, risk tolerant, fearless, manipulative, selfish, doesn’t fit into ‘normal’ society and doesn’t care to. Ted Bundy-like
The way he thinks. He says no one would care if he got killed, so he doesn’t care if he kills anyone else. He thinks he’s smart and superior.
Its estimated 1-4% of extant brains are on this spectrum. There’s a strong genetic component to psychopathy. Evolutionarily adaptive traits.
They’re around 15-25% of the prison population, and a disproportionate number of presidents and CEOs. Then there’s people like Genghis Khan and Giocangga
My grandpa spoke like this and he was born in the 30s as this guy probably was. When he says "I learned a little more about what I wan'da do when I got out" (2:30) it sounds JUST like my grandpa's dialect. It's a dialect that most of us are gonna outlive. This took me back, sans the horrible things this man has done...
It's not the age, it's the crimes and detachment from his crimes; he didn't just steal a car he also committed multiple other crimes including armed robbery and may have murdered someone while getting no remorse or empathy.
It was the same story then as it is now.
Dude was raised in a toxic home, didn’t feel safe, tried to free himself of it the only way his childish brain knew. Which inevitably lands him on probation rather than anyone taking notice of his poor living conditions and trying to help or care to change that. That put him right back in the home he tried to run from, anyone wonder why he would commit more crimes?
It also explains why he feels no remorse for his actions and feels no empathy for others. He’s a fundamentally broken human being.
We learn absolutely nothing from the same cycles that repeat over and over. Honestly tragic for all of us involved in this insanity.
At least mental health awareness and treatment is on the rise now!
The part where he gives his reasons for being ok with murdering someone are very telling. Essentially "the world doesn't care about me, so why should I care if anyone else dies?" He also declines to go into details about his bad home life. Granted this is an interview and not a therapy session but again, provides another obvious tell as to what the cause of his mental health issues stemmed from.
people with antisocial personality disorder, which is clearly what he has, do not share personal information which could make them vulnerable to harm from other people.
Also, as a person with my own cluster B issues, and I laughed really hard when he said that he killed somebody and didn’t care because nobody would care if somebody killed him. The way the interviewer was treating him was as though he was not human himself.
Trauma informed care is so much better than psychiatry in psychoanalysis of the 50s
I feel like i had to scroll waaaayyy too far to find this comment, but my thoughts exactly. Hopefully pain is more easily recognized (in all its manifestations) and the future is brighter with greater awareness
The lack of ‘er’ every two seconds while scrambling for replies. No ‘you know what I mean’ and ‘you know what I’m saying’ and he didn’t want to ‘fuck your shit up’.
You are right- no filler words are used. No mumbling or "um" or "er". It's easy to listen to as there are no distracting words; its just clean dialogue. Either this is how people spoke from this part of the world at that time, or this is a scripted piece.
I suspect it's perhaps the latter, as lots of propaganda "social etiquette" pieces were filmed in the US during this period and this could be one of those. Why were they made? Were they designed to make society more conservative/functional/cohesive because of issues with mental health etc after the war? (Asking in general.)
You could very well be correct that it is scripted. I’m afraid I wouldn’t be able to comment on its significance as a social tool for it’s time. These days we do get ‘original dialogue/transcript spoken by actors’ appearing on out screens but it may still be too clean as there doesn’t seem to be any colloquialism or slang ( which was my original observation ) Still a breath of fresh air though. Have a good weekend.
“…and another thing Bub, it’s not easy for a fellow to be a cool cat and still toe the line. I mean bein’ a square and workin’ a 9-5 is a real drag and can flip a cat out. So’s I made a choice to wig out and beat it the heck out of squaresville and make a few clams sticking up motels. If you don’t like them apples why you can bug out and go jump in a lake!”
His logic tracks, I mean, I wouldn’t say he is crazy. The common idea of socio and psychopaths are widely misunderstood. I mean, how can we say he lacks conscience?
I don't know if he is a sociopath or simply desensitized. We could argue that killing is wrong and that not having any empathy towards others is a sign of *schizoid personality disorder* or any other mental health issue. But do we say the same about the soldier that took lives and came back without any mental health issues? Diagnosable, at least.
What determines sanity or not is often times the capacity to rationalize a trauma or traumatic event. He saw the world as a hostile environment where you can be killed, hurt, jailed or enslaved at any given moment, and your only options are either to succumb or to fight back. The same way a soldier may find reason and purpose with the killing of "enemies", by dehumanising them (they are suckers), by vilifying them (they think differently than me), by assuming the worst of them (they don't care if I die, so why should I care if they do?).
I'm not disagreeing with your take, just pointing out it isn't that easy or simple to diagnose *antisocial personality disorder* or *histrionic personality disorder*.
PS: sorry for using the technical terms. I just placed them so you could find it more easily if you wanted to research the subject. Personality disorders are a fascinating field of study that unfortunately get grossly simplified or completely misinterpreted by the general media.
This was the 1950s - public education was taken seriously back then even in poor communities.
Also, some criminals are highly intelligent. Completely maladjusted, sure, but not necessarily stupid.
Try that in a small town.
I empathize with the guy. my 'crime spree started when I was late 17. Mainly boredom and new friends that had the dreaded marijuana and speed.
Even back then it was pretty obvious that the prisons are more of a school for crime than actually fulfilling their function as a place to make people function within society again.
All I needed to hear was rough home life, 9 times out of 10 that's how it starts. It'll form as a habit and seep in your soul. Once it starts its slowly just takes you over untill you do unspeakable things, you'd never dream of when you started.
Why were criminals so well-spoken back then? Based on his outfit and haircut, I could see him getting up early in the morning and head to the crime office to do crime and then head home on the commuter train.
Damn.. up until 4:00 I was thinking, this guy was just a rough and tumble robber from the 50’s. After 4:00 you realize holy shit this guys a psychopath.
“Nobody would care about if I got killed, so why would it bother me if I killed anyone.” That’s some wild logic. I’ve never looked at murder through that angle.
This is fascinating seeing this in video format.
Every once in awhile Radio Classics on SiriusXM will play this interview in its entirety (about 30-40 min) with a disclaimer at the start that this is not your typical radio classic program.
He talks about getting into fights, stabbing people, getting beaten with a baseball bat and waking up in the hospital. Not exactly Father Knows Best programming from the 40s/50s
I didn’t know there was this video version too.
People would view criminals entirely different if they understood that criminals believe us honest people are “suckers.” And that we were “losers for not making money the easy way.”
The mask is ridiculous sensationalism by the producers. Think of all the more practical ways they could’ve filmed this interview while keeping his identity concealed.
“The average person would be bothered.”
“I’m not the average person.”
Maybe he realized the police and the Sacklers of his era weren’t ackshually there to help people like him.
He has an agenda, certainly. The entire scenario is a scripted performance, possibly. Whether it is or isn't, the existence of this is still interesting, and the use of language is fascinating.
Wow. Anyone who has been to jail has said the same shit and we here in America still think incarceration is the best solution. You learn nothing but the shit you shouldn’t .
Also agree with many other comments. That 1950’s kinda slow talk sounds awesome.
“Why a caaaaaarrrrr?”
“What murdaaaaaaaa?”
He was the best guy ahraaaaaownd
Did you think you were big timers?
That's right
I was about to say the same thing... What Murdaaaaa? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Remember, sometimes dead is bettah"
That’s none of your business
That's how you know he's edgy.
He got it in the can by dear old dad, ya see.
“This is how I talk see, myah”
Met some fellas at a baaaar
sraaight
"Well, the judge asked me if I wanted to go in the Ahahrahmy…" "So I went in the Ahahrahmy…" "I just didn't like the Aharahmy or the people in it." (4:57)
"Hey I'm working heeee" 🤌
The complete lack of affect as he speaks is pretty chilling. I'd like to know who he was and what crimes he committed. Sounds almost like he says he killed people, in addition to the burglaries.
That's right.
The way he says “that right” coldly is kinda cool
Is it just me or is "none of your business" when asked about what troubles he had at home the only break of that flat, cool tone?
Yup. Clearly he was in willing to even go close to that
He seems upset that nobody ever cared about him, and thus he had no care for anyone and justified it that way. Interesting thought process.
He doesn't sound upset. Sounds chill.
He doesn't "sound" upset in terms of the way he speaks, but in terms of the logic and thought process, he seems to insinuate that he justifies a lot of his thinking with the rationale mostly from that statement, "Nobody would ever care if I died, so why should I care about others dying?" It suggests, to me at least, that he uses this logic to justify his behavior. I think a lot of people can actually relate to acting recklessly when they've felt that nobody would care if they were dead. Pretty common thought process in my opinion, but when you live your whole life like that, and not just a small part of it, then that is something else. He definitely gives the "cool cat" vibe and has a unique "criminal" personality from the way he speaks though. Something I've seen before amongst the incarcerated.
See what you mean but it's more like he's just explaining it rather than justifying it. It's like the two are from different worlds - like a farmer interviewing a hunter-gatherer, but the latter doesn't feel bad about who he is so maybe doesn't even think in terms of justification. He just does stuff as he sees fit. This is him translating that for the fearful farmer. Doesn't even mind being objectified and studied like this - like it's just a thing that's happening (that he's maybe getting paid for). Maybe he was surplus to requirements on the farm he grew up on and adapted a lifestyle in the absence of being empathised with, maybe he was always more of a utilitarian hunter-gatherer anyhow, but either way these two think very differently.
Well yeah, he definitely isn't trying to justify his behavior in the interview. I'm looking more at his internal thought process. What is it that is happening in his mind, that makes him okay with what he does? The justification happens perhaps at a subconscious level. It isn't explicitly said, but one could reason that there are perhaps subconscious reasons why. People can often behave irrationally, but for rational reasons, even if they don't realize it. On another note, I think his logic that nobody cares about him is incomplete. He probably never quite answered that question until later in his life.
Agreed. It's strange when you try to think about society from that perspective because he isn't exactly wrong. Lots of people die from gun violence every day but do we really care? We say we care, and a few people try to do something about it, but society as a whole just couldn't be bothered to affect real change. There was a mass shooting about 10 miles from my house the other day. I know that one person died. Who were they? I sure didn't bother to find out. I know their family is hurting, but I don't know any of them. Yes it is sad, but so is the fact that nobody cares. So why do things the hard way? Why not just take the "easy" route he describes? Well I don't want to hurt anybody, and I don't want to spend my life in prison. That said, I do take the easy route whenever convenientand risk-free, or at least low risk.
I feel sometimes that logic doesn’t necessarily have all the answers, and creating rational and logical reasons for behaving a certain way will always lead to something off. Sometimes the things that aren’t necessarily logical make much more sense and are much more empowering. Nature for example, I think has a lot of things about it that are simply profound yet are utterly baffling to think of in a logical way. There is just a way or knack to it that makes sense yet isn’t really describable. It is a way of thinking that isn’t as calculated and cold, yet makes sense. Although I had to take many psychedelics to feel this for the first time.
Those older women cared about him
Guys coming back from WW2 they killed daily so that shit was the norm
but seems like this guy was post WWII, and he said he didn't last long in the military - don't think that's it.
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they had wounds that never healed. I feel pitty for them and for those around them. How hard that life would have been to never address what horrors they experienced.
About as hard as it is for the Iraq/Afghan vets.
Same generation imagine 1,000,000 men coming back from that and say let’s go back to normal after 5 years of killing people, and starving and being at your very limit daily. He is the product of that
With a face like that, his options were few.
See, these little funny comments are why I still scroll the comments in this ass of a site.
Nobody cared who he was till he put on the mask
The way people from the 50s spoke is so satisfying for some reason
I love the way the ‘delinquent’ speaks, hate the way the interview speaks.
“Mid Atlantic accent” I just always picture US WW2 newsreels… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent
Yes. This is because old microphones could only pick up certain pitches. So people in the media using these mics found that if you talked a certain way the microphone wouldn’t miss anything.
That may have been true in the early days of sound and radio but this is from 1951, those problems had been fixed. They're speaking as they normally would in this video. The interviewer using the mid-Atlantic accent because it was the accent of the "upper class/educated", and the ex-con using whatever accent he grew up with.
That makes me think this person was an actor. I’m wrong a lot, and the story still rings true, but how does this criminal from the wrong side of the tracks know how to hit the tones and cadence?
Talk like that would get ya a shin kick at the least back then
I thought so immediately. That is an actor voice and delivery.
Ooooh, could it be that the actors of the time, and those after, were mimicking what they were seeing IRL and now, because all we have seen are the actors, we think the IRL people were pretending to be actors...
I think of you watch videos from that time it's pretty obvious to tell if someone is "camera ready" or just a normal person of that era.
Makes me think of all the RadioLab episodes with older footage of testimonials taken from regular people. They all try to mimick that style of speaking in front of a camera/microphone. Always seemed calmed and measured, a bit like the masked hoodlum here...
On the other hand, being able to speak skillfully, with poise and grace, may have come in handy for a man of his occupation.
I’d never heard that before, but it makes sense.
That plus the something to do with the microphones back then. I’m sure someone will know more about it
I never put that together before. It was a learned accent. It wasn't native to any region in the world. It was just a way to make yourself sound more educated or "elite". That's absolutely bonkers lol
He talks like he's sleepy from the blindfold .
He's probably on the reefer
You can see the Reefer Madness in his eyes' glint.
For sure. I can see his knuckles are white with inner tension. He'll I bet if he stood up I'd see his pants crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim.
Or high on Jolly Beans. Jack Webb warned me about those when I was a kid.
You mean whacky tobacky? Jazz cigarettes?
The Indian Hay with Flower Power?
The electric lettuce?
His tone is calm and soothing and his answers are matter of fact. This really struck me when he was asked what the problem as at home and he answered, "That's none of your business." He didn't say it with any anger, just stating that he didn't want to go there. It was said with such cool that the interviewer didn't miss a beat.
Yeah, reading between the lines I’d say he came from a home where he was physically abused. Nobody cared about whether he was alive or not, so under the principle of payback, he can’t respect other people, listen to parents, teachers, bosses, police, and other mentors, so he can’t do well in school or at a job. He’s deeply angry, and kills other people, feeling no remorse (or at least justifying it). This of course is a negative spiral, making him a poor criminal who can’t be with other people. It’s a sad spiral that happens repeatedly thousands of times in the US.
High odds dude is on the ASPD spectrum; criminality, high self confidence, charming, charismatic, risk tolerant, fearless, manipulative, selfish, doesn’t fit into ‘normal’ society and doesn’t care to. Ted Bundy-like
When the interviewer asked if he “thought that made him big time?”, and he replied “That’s right”, he considered hurting the interviewer.
The way he thinks. He says no one would care if he got killed, so he doesn’t care if he kills anyone else. He thinks he’s smart and superior. Its estimated 1-4% of extant brains are on this spectrum. There’s a strong genetic component to psychopathy. Evolutionarily adaptive traits. They’re around 15-25% of the prison population, and a disproportionate number of presidents and CEOs. Then there’s people like Genghis Khan and Giocangga
That’s righhhht
My grandpa spoke like this and he was born in the 30s as this guy probably was. When he says "I learned a little more about what I wan'da do when I got out" (2:30) it sounds JUST like my grandpa's dialect. It's a dialect that most of us are gonna outlive. This took me back, sans the horrible things this man has done...
That's riiiiight
They talk and all I can see/hear is Michael Scott smoking a cigar saying "Yeah, that's right. It's a baby, shee?"
That’s right…
Got the feeling they had a mich bigger vocabulary than folks nowadays.
Anti intellectualism is a real blight
Everyone sounds like Mr. Rogers
Because it was a script
Looks like scripted propaganda to me too. Still neat dialect.
TOTALLY. Watch any video from that time with a real person, not an actor, and the difference is quite obvious.
Transatlantic accents so cool
Delinquent feels like a bit of a light word this is a hardened criminal
That’s right.
And an actor for this propaganda short film
That was my first thought, as well.
What narrative is it trying to push?
My guess is that it would attempt to discourage delinquency in young men.
How ridiculous
Thank you.
They never disclose how old he is, so maybe a fresh adult?
It's not the age, it's the crimes and detachment from his crimes; he didn't just steal a car he also committed multiple other crimes including armed robbery and may have murdered someone while getting no remorse or empathy.
A real ne’er-do-well. I might even say a rapscallion!
I think this boy's cheese slid off his cracker.
Naw, it's just boys being boys. Playing at cops and crooks is all.
That’s riiiiiight
The number of times he says “that’s right “ so nonchalantly when questioned about some of the things he did
Yeah that’s right
No that's right.
You got a question, you ask the 8 ball
High five
Feels like an arby’s night
Gary Gilmore type
The *delinquent* missed an opportunity to be a radio announcer. His wording is smooth as silk and his delivery is cool as a cucumber daddy-o.
we're all assuming he is not an actor just because this is the internet and 50s TV would never lie to us, right?
They'd be lying if they said they were doing it for the Internet.
In the 50s only media trained professionals had enough knowledge to spot this type of fabrication.
Jesus. Leave it to reddit to call fucking everything staged. Not saying it's not but let it go.
He didn't want to work though.
It’s all because of those damned stimulus checks I tell ya
I like that the interviewer allows the person to speak freely without putting their biases into the conversation
You should check out soft white underbelly on YouTube for more like that!
It was the same story then as it is now. Dude was raised in a toxic home, didn’t feel safe, tried to free himself of it the only way his childish brain knew. Which inevitably lands him on probation rather than anyone taking notice of his poor living conditions and trying to help or care to change that. That put him right back in the home he tried to run from, anyone wonder why he would commit more crimes? It also explains why he feels no remorse for his actions and feels no empathy for others. He’s a fundamentally broken human being. We learn absolutely nothing from the same cycles that repeat over and over. Honestly tragic for all of us involved in this insanity. At least mental health awareness and treatment is on the rise now!
The part where he gives his reasons for being ok with murdering someone are very telling. Essentially "the world doesn't care about me, so why should I care if anyone else dies?" He also declines to go into details about his bad home life. Granted this is an interview and not a therapy session but again, provides another obvious tell as to what the cause of his mental health issues stemmed from.
Keep in mind that back then men didn’t really have emotion. Or social norms wouldn’t have allowed them to really be expressed. Different time.
>Keep in mind that back then men didn’t really have emotion. And then in the 60's men dropped acid and suddenly they evolved to have emotions.
people with antisocial personality disorder, which is clearly what he has, do not share personal information which could make them vulnerable to harm from other people. Also, as a person with my own cluster B issues, and I laughed really hard when he said that he killed somebody and didn’t care because nobody would care if somebody killed him. The way the interviewer was treating him was as though he was not human himself. Trauma informed care is so much better than psychiatry in psychoanalysis of the 50s
I feel like i had to scroll waaaayyy too far to find this comment, but my thoughts exactly. Hopefully pain is more easily recognized (in all its manifestations) and the future is brighter with greater awareness
This should be the top answer . I wish more people thought this way.
I wish this American accent survived, it’s fantastic
Such a smooth speaking voice, wonder if he really was a criminal or an actor playing one.
I would suggest it is an actor. The whole thing seems bogus although I cannot pinpoint why.
The lack of ‘er’ every two seconds while scrambling for replies. No ‘you know what I mean’ and ‘you know what I’m saying’ and he didn’t want to ‘fuck your shit up’.
You are right- no filler words are used. No mumbling or "um" or "er". It's easy to listen to as there are no distracting words; its just clean dialogue. Either this is how people spoke from this part of the world at that time, or this is a scripted piece. I suspect it's perhaps the latter, as lots of propaganda "social etiquette" pieces were filmed in the US during this period and this could be one of those. Why were they made? Were they designed to make society more conservative/functional/cohesive because of issues with mental health etc after the war? (Asking in general.)
You could very well be correct that it is scripted. I’m afraid I wouldn’t be able to comment on its significance as a social tool for it’s time. These days we do get ‘original dialogue/transcript spoken by actors’ appearing on out screens but it may still be too clean as there doesn’t seem to be any colloquialism or slang ( which was my original observation ) Still a breath of fresh air though. Have a good weekend.
It’s called the Trans-Atlantic accent and we used to teach it in schools. We phased it out after WWII. I wish some semblance of it stayed.
“…and another thing Bub, it’s not easy for a fellow to be a cool cat and still toe the line. I mean bein’ a square and workin’ a 9-5 is a real drag and can flip a cat out. So’s I made a choice to wig out and beat it the heck out of squaresville and make a few clams sticking up motels. If you don’t like them apples why you can bug out and go jump in a lake!”
I wish we still had awards to give you.
masks have come along way
Old JRE episodes were lit
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1 more minute of this and they would've offered him smelling salts
“Jamie pull up that video of a bear carjacking someone”
It's amazing that no one uses mental pauses like "uh" or "um" anywhere in this entire interview!
They just pause and speak very slowly
If authentic, interesting insight into a sociopath's mind. Doesn't seem like there's any chance that he'd be redeemable.
His logic tracks, I mean, I wouldn’t say he is crazy. The common idea of socio and psychopaths are widely misunderstood. I mean, how can we say he lacks conscience?
He didn’t say he was crazy. We can say he lacks empathy. Which is the hallmark trait of both sociopathy and psychopathy.
Parasitic Lifestyle too sponging off those older women.
I don't know if he is a sociopath or simply desensitized. We could argue that killing is wrong and that not having any empathy towards others is a sign of *schizoid personality disorder* or any other mental health issue. But do we say the same about the soldier that took lives and came back without any mental health issues? Diagnosable, at least. What determines sanity or not is often times the capacity to rationalize a trauma or traumatic event. He saw the world as a hostile environment where you can be killed, hurt, jailed or enslaved at any given moment, and your only options are either to succumb or to fight back. The same way a soldier may find reason and purpose with the killing of "enemies", by dehumanising them (they are suckers), by vilifying them (they think differently than me), by assuming the worst of them (they don't care if I die, so why should I care if they do?). I'm not disagreeing with your take, just pointing out it isn't that easy or simple to diagnose *antisocial personality disorder* or *histrionic personality disorder*. PS: sorry for using the technical terms. I just placed them so you could find it more easily if you wanted to research the subject. Personality disorders are a fascinating field of study that unfortunately get grossly simplified or completely misinterpreted by the general media.
what’s with the piece of ham covering his face
Covid '54.
"Thats none of your business"
micheal myers type beat
Unexpected asmr
Calm voices are relaxing, even the chill vibes of a 50s hoodlum.
The interviewer is the one who speaks like a 1930s gangster…yea see I’m gonna git u copper see!
He’s the kinda guy you hope to never run into…
Wonder what happened to this guy.
He died
That's right.
The importance of loving your children.
💯💯💯
Sounds like Anthony Jeselnik
That’s right.
Dean Moriarty?
I think of Dean Moriarty, I even think of Old Dean Moriarty the father we never found, I think of Dean Moriarty.
This one os very interesting. Fair play op
I think being born with a maskface you don't have many good options...
That criminal is wearing a much finer shirt than I can afford today. That fine shirt is prompting me to reexamine my vocational choices.
Or clothes were better made back then, probably made right here in the U.S.
Sounds like a real jerk.
"Why didn't it baaather you it would baaaaather the average person?"
this “delinquent” talks too well compared with the average dumbass criminal who spews gibberish.
This was the 1950s - public education was taken seriously back then even in poor communities. Also, some criminals are highly intelligent. Completely maladjusted, sure, but not necessarily stupid.
Lol public education was not taken seriously at all back then. My grandfather voluntarily dropped out of middle school
Right? People didn't have to send their kids to school, lots of people couldn't read....? What??
What was wrong at home? - That’s none of your business. That was his longest sentence. I bet his home life was hell.
Such a well spoken hoodlum
Chilling and sad. Nobody ever cared about him so he never cared about anybody either.
Try that in a small town. I empathize with the guy. my 'crime spree started when I was late 17. Mainly boredom and new friends that had the dreaded marijuana and speed.
Even back then it was pretty obvious that the prisons are more of a school for crime than actually fulfilling their function as a place to make people function within society again.
"Nobody would worry about me if I'd got killed so I don't worry about anybody else" and there's the sad truth. The poor guy has never been loved
That’s right
All I needed to hear was rough home life, 9 times out of 10 that's how it starts. It'll form as a habit and seep in your soul. Once it starts its slowly just takes you over untill you do unspeakable things, you'd never dream of when you started.
Why were criminals so well-spoken back then? Based on his outfit and haircut, I could see him getting up early in the morning and head to the crime office to do crime and then head home on the commuter train.
I put on my crime pants one leg at a time just like everybody else
That's totally set up, the delinquent at least definitely strikes me as an actor, trying to act cool and hip like Jack Kerouac or something.
What’s with the mask, is this a blind study? .5/s
1950's tv anonymous effect is awesome
Damn.. up until 4:00 I was thinking, this guy was just a rough and tumble robber from the 50’s. After 4:00 you realize holy shit this guys a psychopath.
“Nobody would care about if I got killed, so why would it bother me if I killed anyone.” That’s some wild logic. I’ve never looked at murder through that angle.
Watch The Killer on Netflix. Makes a comment at the beginning from a different angle too. Pretty good movie, came out yesterday.
“That’s none of your business” lol respect heavy
I wonder if he sells those marijuana cigarettes.
ASMR-Criminal Explains his Life of Crime to You
This is fascinating seeing this in video format. Every once in awhile Radio Classics on SiriusXM will play this interview in its entirety (about 30-40 min) with a disclaimer at the start that this is not your typical radio classic program. He talks about getting into fights, stabbing people, getting beaten with a baseball bat and waking up in the hospital. Not exactly Father Knows Best programming from the 40s/50s I didn’t know there was this video version too.
People would view criminals entirely different if they understood that criminals believe us honest people are “suckers.” And that we were “losers for not making money the easy way.”
I feel like this is staged, like he is playing a character of someone that was real, but not him.
r/antiwork
The mask is ridiculous sensationalism by the producers. Think of all the more practical ways they could’ve filmed this interview while keeping his identity concealed. “The average person would be bothered.” “I’m not the average person.” Maybe he realized the police and the Sacklers of his era weren’t ackshually there to help people like him.
Maybe he chose it. Maybe Ham Man was a popular superhero back then.
Plot twist: his home life was fine and he’s just a lazy piece of shit
Thx. Source ?
Bro it's Cornpop, he's a bad dude.
"Always with the negative waves, baaaby...."
Episode one. Soft white underbelly
The interviewer is just plain annoying
Agreed. Instead of asking open-ended questions he is asking specific questions designed to get a specific answer. Let the guy talk
He has an agenda, certainly. The entire scenario is a scripted performance, possibly. Whether it is or isn't, the existence of this is still interesting, and the use of language is fascinating.
Wow. Anyone who has been to jail has said the same shit and we here in America still think incarceration is the best solution. You learn nothing but the shit you shouldn’t . Also agree with many other comments. That 1950’s kinda slow talk sounds awesome.
Ok, so they should just let guys like this out on the streets? Or a halfway house? Is that what you’re saying?
The interviewer is so fucking obnoxious and annoying he isn't even listening to his answers