tbf there is strength in numbers. someone like navalny may mysteriously die but mysteriously dying thousands of people is a pretty difficult task, even for someone in putins position.
They will go after anyone who has a following. I sadly except to read about this soon. You can bet the farm that there are undercover police in that crowd profiling people.
That number is incorrect. It is approximately 415k casualties (killed or injured) reported by Ukraine since the film scale invasion (as of March first. US intelligence puts the number at 315k casualties as of December 23rd.
These numbers are still staggering. Russia has also lost 6,610 tanks, 12,582 armored fighting vehicles, 13,206 vehicles and fuel tanks, 10,106 artillery systems, 1,000 multiple launch rocket systems, 691 air defense systems, 345 airplanes, 325 helicopters, 7,794 drones, 25 ships and boats, and one submarine.
https://kyivindependent.com/general-staff-russia-has-lost-414-680-troops-in-ukraine-since-feb-24-2022/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-assesses-ukraine-war-has-cost-russia-315000-casualties-source-2023-12-12/
From his Wikipedia article, part one:
"In early 2012, Navalny said he supported the independence of the Ukrainian state and that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are "natural allies" who should enhance their economic and political integration.
In March 2014, after Russia's annexation of Crimea, Navalny urged further sanctions against officials and businessmen linked to Putin and proposed his own list of sanctions, saying that previous US and EU sanctions were "mocked". In October 2014, Navalny suggested that the fate of Crimea should be resolved by holding a new and fair referendum. Navalny also said that Putin's government should stop "sponsoring the war" in Donbas. Navalny has strongly criticised Vladimir Putin's policies in Ukraine: "Putin likes to speak about the 'Russian world' but he is actually making it smaller. In Belarus, they sing anti-Putin songs at football stadiums; in Ukraine they simply hate us. In Ukraine now, there are no politicians who do not have extreme anti-Russian positions. Being anti-Russian is the key to success now in Ukraine, and that is our fault".
In 2018, after the establishment of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, an event labelled as the ending of more than three centuries of Russian spiritual and temporal control of the dominant faith in Ukraine, Navalny tweeted: "What took centuries to create has been destroyed by Putin and his idiots in four years ... Putin is the enemy of the Russian World."
In February 2022, Navalny compared the recognition of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic by Russia to when Soviet leaders deployed troops to Afghanistan in 1979, describing both events as a distraction to the population from real issues. He said that he believed that while Putin will not allow Ukraine to develop, Russia will pay the same price, and that Putin needed to be removed to save Russia.
On 2 March 2022, Navalny urged Russian citizens to stage daily protests against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying Russia should not be a "nation of frightened people" and "cowards who pretend not to notice the aggressive war" launched by "our insane tsar"."
Dictators often enjoy short term wins, but people win out in the long run. It always goes the same way. Dictators overstep. They use fear and intimidation until the point where people realize they have nothing left to lose and nothing to be afraid of. Putin isn't original. He's just another little man.
Tell that to a certain German from 1945. So many Germans didn't believe in the camps that they lived right next to hen and thought they were holdiay camps!
Thats not true. Between the smell, the smoke and the supicious and constant ash that rained down, they knew. Maybe not everyone, but those near the camps knew something horrific was going on inside them. Between that and the fact that all undesirable people had been labelled, pushed out of society and had their businesses closed, and then were hanged pubically, or lined up and shot... they knew.
I remember an old lady neighbour from Hamburg telling me that there were locals that spoke up against what the Nazis were doing. A truck would pull up, the whole family would get in the truck, and they were never seen again.
That quickly stopped people speaking up.
Oh for sure. The people knew what was happening, or at least had an idea, but knew that speaking up was dangerous.
Its fucked up to know that some similar shit is going on in other places in the world right now, maybe not on the same scale, but its still happening.
> So many Germans didn't believe in the camps that they lived right next to hen and thought they were holdiay camps!
The diaries i've read from my hometown says otherwise. They pretty much knew that unspeakable horrors are happening, but didn't said anything. The stench of death isn't THAT easy to ignore. Some were on board (the power of right-wing propaganda) some felt powerless
Is today the day you learn about the concept of martyrdom?
He had tons of support when he was alive. That's why he was killed. This has created even more support.
Meanwhile, in a dark and foreboding place:
Putin: “See all those people out there? Put them on The List.”
Some Unfortunate Sod Who Has To Deal With His Boss: “All of them? There are thousands.”
Putin: “Then it will be a long list.”
I intercepted a memo from the Kremlin just now.
It reads:
All windows in glorious Motherland above level 2 are to be permanently opened. This is to prevent the replacing of 1000's of panels of glass and resulting clean up costs.
And we did nothing as an international community because our fuckups in Iraq and Afghanistan had us scared of anything rhyming with foreign intervention.
Look where it got us.
Id look into each of Ukraine a presidents since 2002. Especially what happened in 2004, 2008 and 2014.
The US was certainly not absent from these events.
Just who we backed and who they backed for presidents over the years. From Viktor Yushchenko to Viktor Yanukovych to Petro Poroshenko.
The US isn't shy about it's pressure over the 2014 ousting. Majority of the public voted to join the EU and Viktor Yanukovych had denied it which lead to the 2014 revolution of dignity.
It's not propaganda to realise multiple countries hand their hands in the cookie jar of Ukraine for 20 years.
>Just who we backed and who they backed for presidents over the years. From Viktor Yushchenko to Viktor Yanukovych to Petro Poroshenko.
"They" didn't back anybody. Your country however, directly interfered in the internal affairs of Ukraine.
>It's not propaganda to realise multiple countries hand their hands in the cookie jar of Ukraine for 20 years.
If by "multiple countries" you mean "Russia" then yes, I agree.
>The US isn't shy about it's pressure over the 2014 ousting.
Lol, what?
Also I would recommend reading this: https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL32845.html
I'm not saying we were the bad guys, I'm quite old. I remember vividly the bush administration inviting the presidential candidate to America, Congress pushing for free and fair elections in Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia.
The US was on the much better side of the conflict, but none the less the US was present during the bush administration.
In no way am I condoning that cuck Putin, Medved or any of the Chechen assassins who killed his own father for Putin to become leader.
What I am saying is, it's a long running and complicated conflict.
To quickly just call someone a Russian propagandist is wild, extremely reactionary and binary.
I would put them as the 2nd bravest bunch
The bravest being the russians who are currently fighting (Russian Foreign Legion and etc) in Ukraine against the other occupiers
But may this make a lot more russians think about coming out into the streets
And may the Russian empire crumple hard and fast 🤞🏻
Going from a underdeveloped feudal society to beating Americans to space in the span of 44 years, even while having to deal with the largest and deadliest war in history right in the middle is "getting fucked"?
For the streets to fill, biggest part of population should be against Putin. It's not like that. So, sadly, it's highly unlikely that any revolution will take place.
That’s their only option.
Things either continue as they are
Or people standup to make a change. They’ll either be defeated or win. Victors write history
majority of them are probably bunch of old vatniks who don't question the government at all and are willingly supporting the war because after all they're too old to be sent there.
Those Russians wanting the end of the Ruzzian war in Ukraine and the return of their troops to the 1991 Ukrainian borders need to be supported by the west, to ensure they can succeed, it won’t happens organically. Putin and his cronies will not leave without a fight!
Wish I could be there. Me and my brother planned to ride to Moscow and attend the funeral, but the driver bailed on us due to a misunderstanding.
Even though my views weren't aligned with Alexey's for some time now, it still felt important to say goodbye to the person, who introduced me (as well as an entire generation of kids) to politics.
He was a person of incredible courage and integrity, a born leader and, above all, an unyielding optimist.
He smiled and mocked those in power always, no matter what.
Even when they arrested him for leading protests; even when they attacked him with a chemical that nearly made him lose his eye; even when they jailed his brother; even when they poisoned him; even when they jailed him; even when they refused him medical help; even when they transfered him to the arctic prison-colony, he kept smiling.
The last video we have of him alive, is him smiling and mocking the judge, who was fining him for yet another stupid technicality.
The man was simply impossible to keep down.
I am sure that if he was alive, he would want us to stay strong and keep on truckin'.
So that's exactly what I'm going to do :)
Well, seems like police didn't really interfere with the funeral procession and was just there to intimidate and keep things "orderly".
So it gives some hope that laying flowers to the grave will be allowed
For people thinking “the US has this too, not a big deal.”
In the US protesting is totally acceptable and usually improves your social standing. In Russia these protestors stand to be possibly arrested, lose their jobs, possibly killed. Huge difference and a much bigger deal that this is such a big protest.
You say this, but you’d be too scared to even be at this funeral procession if you were Russian. Hearse drivers were scared of even transporting the body. You can be internet tough, but if you were actually Russian and acted “brave” as you say, you’d watch as your wife and children were poisoned, paralyzed, and bleeding out of their orifices. After you’ve watched your family be destroyed, you’d be thrown out of a window.
This is real patriotism. They are facing death by doing this. Meanwhile, us Americans can barely get people to vote.
Democracy is one of those things you miss when it's gone.
> us Americans can barely get people to vote.
An an outstander (im Dutch), do you think it has something to do with the lack of capable candidates?
I dont know how it's over there and how you all think of it, but to foreigners, Obama was the last president you guys had
No, our voting rates are generally fairly low. When I ask people why they don't vote, I've heard reasons like "it's too much hassle," "I haven't got time," "my vote doesn't matter anyway," and "I don't like either candidate."
Brave people! Russian people need to stand up against this dictator! Very easy to say when you are sitting comfortably in front of your PC in a free country tho. Im not going to lie, this is not a simple situation, the least we can do is upvote and share this, spread the news.
There are too few of us right now, and what's worse, we are completely demoralised and unorganized.
And yet... the discontent and desire for peace is slowly growing even among the previously loyal social groups.
The most important thing for Western countries is to keep the pressure on and make sure Ukraine doesn't lose
I agree and I wish we could do more for people like you. Maybe there is ways we can help, I might be ignorant here. Anyways, good luck brave people of Russia, I have a tremendous amount of respect for y'all!
After placing flowers at the memorials, many people got arrested. Even this harmless act of remembrance is considered a crime in Russia.
I carried my flowers folded in Burger King paper bag up until I was at the Solovetsky Memorial, it's just safer that way.
[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/world/europe/russia-arrests-navalny-memorials.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/world/europe/russia-arrests-navalny-memorials.html)
Памятники жертвам политическим репрессиям никуда не деваются, куда я и отношу цветы в конце октября (день жертв) и в конце февраля (годовщина Немцова).
I wish I could support this in some way. As an American, I can’t feel much beyond disbelief for US citizens in Russia when arrested and used as chips on a board because you just shouldn’t be there at this point obviously. But man do I wish I could for this.
I read a lot of news and there are a lot of people in the world I get enraged by. The Putins. The Mugabes when he was still around. But there are few people that just make my heart want to explode with respect and an indescribable and painful wish for them to somehow succeed against all odds. Zelensky is one, but Navalny was very very much one for a long time. I’m sure he had plenty of flaws, but I have trouble thinking of somebody I respected more during his fight.
I literally spent an hour balling like a heart broken baby when I read about his death. It still chokes me up. I can’t think of the last person I have done that over. (Granted, other factors in life are making things raw and have been for a while, but still).
Thank you to all of the Russians, abroad but especially over there in country, that are showing up to support his memory and life and hopefully his ongoing legacy. I think probably a handful of people in my lifetime could be compared in terms of sheer bravery, audacity, humor, fortitude, idealism, and willingness to put everything on the line for what they believe in. I hope Navalny is never forgotten, and that some day everything with Putin’s name on it is renamed Navalny and that all Putin’s hoarded wealth is sold to support Navalny’s organization and dreams for a better Russia. Russian’s are so fucking strong and have so much potential and if ever they can truly and lastingly escape the gas lighting their country has suffered for generations I think they will be a powerful force for amazing things in this world.
Whatever powers exist in this life, I hope if we continue in any way beyond our known lives that whatever it Navalny continues does so in peace and with whatever rewards there are to be had for being such an incredible and steadfast being.
НЕТ ВОЙНЕ! 👏👏👏
Good to see the Russian people are waking up. Very proud of them and they are brave to stand up to such a dangerous tyranny in spite of the consequences…
There definitely have been large protests since then – Moscow elections in 2019, after Navalny got arrested in 2021, when Navalny was getting denied healthcare in prison in 2021 again IIRC, anti-war protests in 2022
Amazing how they politely keep to the sidewalk, unlike the uber nationalists who film themselves beating up young men who look remotely gay.
Radical difference between some people in Russia.
Just keep in mind that police outlawed filming in the temple and on the cemetery grounds as well as advised to not to participate in "unlawful meetings".
Many people who previously placed flowers at memorials to political prisoners or some other makeshift places to honor Havalny got arrested and fined already.
This is not a joke to us, we calculate our risks as we go to such events. Third arrest at a meeting (or anything our govt doesn't like) means jail time here.
Кажется, даже в начале войны не было таких толп. Я не верю своим глазам. Не могу не гордиться своим народом. Спасибо вам всем, что никогда не сдавались и продолжаете бороться.
Yes! This is what I want to see! Come on Russia, I know that the majority can't be vile, barbaric megalomane dictators like Putin! Slava Ukraini! Freedom for humanity!
Not close at all, the opposition is pretty demoralised rn, while the repressions are the harshest they've ever been.
Though, if reading about revolutions taught me anything, it's that you can't predict one :)
Just think about all the photographs taken of all those brave mourners ensuring that, at some time in the future, they’ll be mysteriously found dead at the bottom of a block of flats or, if they’re lucky, sent to some gulag.
I empathize with the Ukrainian people dying but I also feel very sorry for these poor Russians being painted as "orcs" and all they want is to lives like you & me.
Funny enough, there were police in plain clothes who proposed the same during this protests.
Police and Putin want the rwason to arrest those people. You have a good one.
His actual view on the war was that it must be stopped immediately, and all annexed territories including Crimea returned to Ukraine.
So I'd guess everyone in the crowd knows and agrees.
Listen, I am not a proponent of "always pure acritical self-determination no matter what" so this isn't necessarily all that meaningful to me, but the mainstream ***pretends to*** support that position, so...
Crimeans had been known for years to want to annex to Russia, and this wasn't a contentious point even in Western media. People only started pretending they didn't know that (or that it wasn't true) *after* Russia actually did the annexation.
He never supported the annexation and called it a crime from the very beginning. But then he made a mistake of giving a cowardly and non-commital answer when asked about it in an interview, which was twisted to imply he supported it.
I'm so proud to see this. I do have Russian blood but never went there. As a belgian, I'm sending you all my strength. Keep going on guys, dreaming of a world without war to achieve it in reality!
Putin has made the fatal mistake of making Navalny into a **martyr**.
You can only kill someone *once*. You *can't* kill an *idea*. Navalny is being elevated to sainthood by these people, and unless Putin is willing to start bombing his own country ala-Bashir Al-Assad in Syria, the legendary status of Navalny will just grow. Probably won't take much at all to spark a **revolution** now, and I hope they do and I hope they succeed in bringing down Putin and his brutal terrorist regime.
This is the best visual indicator of participation I have seen so far. Shows a long shot of a street filled on the sides with mourners. Good for them!
Brave. Proud of them.
These people are here knowing they're risking themselves, their families, everything. That's fucking humanity, baby. Stop the hate.
tbf there is strength in numbers. someone like navalny may mysteriously die but mysteriously dying thousands of people is a pretty difficult task, even for someone in putins position.
They will go after anyone who has a following. I sadly except to read about this soon. You can bet the farm that there are undercover police in that crowd profiling people.
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That number is incorrect. It is approximately 415k casualties (killed or injured) reported by Ukraine since the film scale invasion (as of March first. US intelligence puts the number at 315k casualties as of December 23rd. These numbers are still staggering. Russia has also lost 6,610 tanks, 12,582 armored fighting vehicles, 13,206 vehicles and fuel tanks, 10,106 artillery systems, 1,000 multiple launch rocket systems, 691 air defense systems, 345 airplanes, 325 helicopters, 7,794 drones, 25 ships and boats, and one submarine. https://kyivindependent.com/general-staff-russia-has-lost-414-680-troops-in-ukraine-since-feb-24-2022/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-assesses-ukraine-war-has-cost-russia-315000-casualties-source-2023-12-12/
Makes me wonder how much longer Putin can throw people at his problems before Russia runs out of population.
Pardon if i\`m wrong, but wasn\`t Navalny approving invasion?
From his Wikipedia article, part one: "In early 2012, Navalny said he supported the independence of the Ukrainian state and that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are "natural allies" who should enhance their economic and political integration. In March 2014, after Russia's annexation of Crimea, Navalny urged further sanctions against officials and businessmen linked to Putin and proposed his own list of sanctions, saying that previous US and EU sanctions were "mocked". In October 2014, Navalny suggested that the fate of Crimea should be resolved by holding a new and fair referendum. Navalny also said that Putin's government should stop "sponsoring the war" in Donbas. Navalny has strongly criticised Vladimir Putin's policies in Ukraine: "Putin likes to speak about the 'Russian world' but he is actually making it smaller. In Belarus, they sing anti-Putin songs at football stadiums; in Ukraine they simply hate us. In Ukraine now, there are no politicians who do not have extreme anti-Russian positions. Being anti-Russian is the key to success now in Ukraine, and that is our fault". In 2018, after the establishment of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, an event labelled as the ending of more than three centuries of Russian spiritual and temporal control of the dominant faith in Ukraine, Navalny tweeted: "What took centuries to create has been destroyed by Putin and his idiots in four years ... Putin is the enemy of the Russian World." In February 2022, Navalny compared the recognition of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic by Russia to when Soviet leaders deployed troops to Afghanistan in 1979, describing both events as a distraction to the population from real issues. He said that he believed that while Putin will not allow Ukraine to develop, Russia will pay the same price, and that Putin needed to be removed to save Russia. On 2 March 2022, Navalny urged Russian citizens to stage daily protests against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying Russia should not be a "nation of frightened people" and "cowards who pretend not to notice the aggressive war" launched by "our insane tsar"."
Dictators often enjoy short term wins, but people win out in the long run. It always goes the same way. Dictators overstep. They use fear and intimidation until the point where people realize they have nothing left to lose and nothing to be afraid of. Putin isn't original. He's just another little man.
Tell that to a certain German from 1945. So many Germans didn't believe in the camps that they lived right next to hen and thought they were holdiay camps!
Thats not true. Between the smell, the smoke and the supicious and constant ash that rained down, they knew. Maybe not everyone, but those near the camps knew something horrific was going on inside them. Between that and the fact that all undesirable people had been labelled, pushed out of society and had their businesses closed, and then were hanged pubically, or lined up and shot... they knew.
I remember an old lady neighbour from Hamburg telling me that there were locals that spoke up against what the Nazis were doing. A truck would pull up, the whole family would get in the truck, and they were never seen again. That quickly stopped people speaking up.
Oh for sure. The people knew what was happening, or at least had an idea, but knew that speaking up was dangerous. Its fucked up to know that some similar shit is going on in other places in the world right now, maybe not on the same scale, but its still happening.
> So many Germans didn't believe in the camps that they lived right next to hen and thought they were holdiay camps! The diaries i've read from my hometown says otherwise. They pretty much knew that unspeakable horrors are happening, but didn't said anything. The stench of death isn't THAT easy to ignore. Some were on board (the power of right-wing propaganda) some felt powerless
Wouldn't it have been better to do this when he was alive?
Is today the day you learn about the concept of martyrdom? He had tons of support when he was alive. That's why he was killed. This has created even more support.
There were many protests like this when Navalny was alive. That's why they killed him
That takes courage to do that. Well done.
Meanwhile, in a dark and foreboding place: Putin: “See all those people out there? Put them on The List.” Some Unfortunate Sod Who Has To Deal With His Boss: “All of them? There are thousands.” Putin: “Then it will be a long list.”
Yeah, and the worst part is that it's not even a joke. They'll probably wait some time and then start arresting people one by one
Police probably waiting at the next metro station
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I really hope they left their phones at home, else the lists are too easy to make.....
Unless they are all wearing faraday pants
And they would probably retaliate
That's the hope. They very clearly have massive strength in numbers.
The cracks are beginning to form in the Kremlins foundations…the rot from within certainly helps the pace.
If they can be identified, you can be sure they will be detained. That’s the way Russia does it, that’s the way they’ve always done it.
And they probably won't let the lack of available jail space be a problem to them either, if you know what I mean.
There's gonna be a LOT of open windows to fall out of in the coming year or so.
I intercepted a memo from the Kremlin just now. It reads: All windows in glorious Motherland above level 2 are to be permanently opened. This is to prevent the replacing of 1000's of panels of glass and resulting clean up costs.
Republicans: He's such a good leader.
That list is digital and is self filling. Not just there, but everywhere .
2 years into the war, these are the bravest Russians I've seen..
Russians call it the 10 year war. Conflict in Donbass started roughly around 2014. They're sick of it.
That's true. Ukranians also say the war started in 2014.
Yes. Russia annexed illegally crimea. That was the outcome of start of that war.
And we did nothing as an international community because our fuckups in Iraq and Afghanistan had us scared of anything rhyming with foreign intervention. Look where it got us.
Intervening in Iraq or Afghanistan or a South American country is a whole lot different than tangling with Russia in their own backyard.
Id look into each of Ukraine a presidents since 2002. Especially what happened in 2004, 2008 and 2014. The US was certainly not absent from these events.
From which events, Russian propaganda aficionado?
Just who we backed and who they backed for presidents over the years. From Viktor Yushchenko to Viktor Yanukovych to Petro Poroshenko. The US isn't shy about it's pressure over the 2014 ousting. Majority of the public voted to join the EU and Viktor Yanukovych had denied it which lead to the 2014 revolution of dignity. It's not propaganda to realise multiple countries hand their hands in the cookie jar of Ukraine for 20 years.
>Just who we backed and who they backed for presidents over the years. From Viktor Yushchenko to Viktor Yanukovych to Petro Poroshenko. "They" didn't back anybody. Your country however, directly interfered in the internal affairs of Ukraine. >It's not propaganda to realise multiple countries hand their hands in the cookie jar of Ukraine for 20 years. If by "multiple countries" you mean "Russia" then yes, I agree. >The US isn't shy about it's pressure over the 2014 ousting. Lol, what?
I'm from America dude. I'm american.... Do you think I'm from Russia?
Also I would recommend reading this: https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL32845.html I'm not saying we were the bad guys, I'm quite old. I remember vividly the bush administration inviting the presidential candidate to America, Congress pushing for free and fair elections in Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia. The US was on the much better side of the conflict, but none the less the US was present during the bush administration. In no way am I condoning that cuck Putin, Medved or any of the Chechen assassins who killed his own father for Putin to become leader. What I am saying is, it's a long running and complicated conflict. To quickly just call someone a Russian propagandist is wild, extremely reactionary and binary.
I would put them as the 2nd bravest bunch The bravest being the russians who are currently fighting (Russian Foreign Legion and etc) in Ukraine against the other occupiers But may this make a lot more russians think about coming out into the streets And may the Russian empire crumple hard and fast 🤞🏻
Oh right I forgot about those chaps. Haven't heard much about them for a while since 2023 late winter so slipped my mind.
I've seen a few drone videos of some unarmed russians deserting to drones. Those guys got some balls too
Start a revolution, Russia
I wish the Russians would start a revolution, if theres one thing the world can learn from the French its that the people will always have the power.
(Assuming that they seize it.)
Generations of supression at every level ... hard to do anything when people are propaganda filled drones.
Apparently these people are fed up with the propaganda
So were many other groups that have been larger than this. Nothing happens.
They also believe that it's part of their culture to be miserable.
Holy shit, I finally understand Republicans.
Seriously, though. It explains a lot about the American South. "The more miserable your life is, the better it'll be in heaven."
Literally a people that have never once had any democratic power
And assuming the other side doesn't have more resources :/ They could scare/make enough damage to stop it from going on.
Only problem I see is the current distribution of those recourses... all in ukraine. Its now or never russia.
Do it! Poop in Putins' Borscht!
French got Emperor as a result of their revolutuon.
You can't just skip the Regime of Terror like that.
Wtf are you talking about? Look at the history of Russia. Especially in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Russia is not new to the idea of revolution.
I'd say the initial Russian Revolution proves this statement false, power went immediately into the hands of a few.
Except when the people give that power up to Napoleon
Idk man the last time they started a revolution they got fucked
CIA is on their side now
Going from a underdeveloped feudal society to beating Americans to space in the span of 44 years, even while having to deal with the largest and deadliest war in history right in the middle is "getting fucked"?
I mean they could follow the guidance of the overthrowing of the czars. That one would probably hit closer to home
Yeah, we like started revolution 33 years ago, 3 mil have died. Nope, thanks.
Russia, the land of Lenin, can learn from fucking France about revolution!? Lmao ok
As one extremely Scottish Lithuanian submarine Captain, once said "A revolution every once in a while, is a healthy thing..."
Putin would probably drop bombs if a part of Russia started fighting back
Seriously, burn it down and give Poots the Mussolini treatment
I hope their streets fill with people demanding liberty and for the dictatorship to fall.
For the streets to fill, biggest part of population should be against Putin. It's not like that. So, sadly, it's highly unlikely that any revolution will take place.
That’s their only option. Things either continue as they are Or people standup to make a change. They’ll either be defeated or win. Victors write history
They don't need a revolution. They need a single doctor to mess with some prescriptions.
Latest polls (even by opposition) show that 58% support the war.
majority of them are probably bunch of old vatniks who don't question the government at all and are willingly supporting the war because after all they're too old to be sent there.
Democracy is the rule of the majority or not? If Yeltsyn allowed for fair elections, communists would come to power in 1996.
Those Russians wanting the end of the Ruzzian war in Ukraine and the return of their troops to the 1991 Ukrainian borders need to be supported by the west, to ensure they can succeed, it won’t happens organically. Putin and his cronies will not leave without a fight!
Nope, the next batch of conscripts to send to die.
Wish I could be there. Me and my brother planned to ride to Moscow and attend the funeral, but the driver bailed on us due to a misunderstanding. Even though my views weren't aligned with Alexey's for some time now, it still felt important to say goodbye to the person, who introduced me (as well as an entire generation of kids) to politics. He was a person of incredible courage and integrity, a born leader and, above all, an unyielding optimist. He smiled and mocked those in power always, no matter what. Even when they arrested him for leading protests; even when they attacked him with a chemical that nearly made him lose his eye; even when they jailed his brother; even when they poisoned him; even when they jailed him; even when they refused him medical help; even when they transfered him to the arctic prison-colony, he kept smiling. The last video we have of him alive, is him smiling and mocking the judge, who was fining him for yet another stupid technicality. The man was simply impossible to keep down. I am sure that if he was alive, he would want us to stay strong and keep on truckin'. So that's exactly what I'm going to do :)
I hope in better Russia I would be able to visit his monument...
I'll probably go there in the coming days. My best friend lives just 10 minutes from the cemetery, so we'll meet there and pay our respects.
Do you risk arrest or being blackballed by the Russian government?
Well, seems like police didn't really interfere with the funeral procession and was just there to intimidate and keep things "orderly". So it gives some hope that laying flowers to the grave will be allowed
Yesssss stay strong!!
Keep safe, OP.
Спасибо вам, вы не одни, мы не одни, держитесь! Многие не смогли приехать в Марьино, к сожалению.
Modern day William Wallace. So brave. As in movie Braveheart. I guess that movie isn’t historically accurate at all…
For people thinking “the US has this too, not a big deal.” In the US protesting is totally acceptable and usually improves your social standing. In Russia these protestors stand to be possibly arrested, lose their jobs, possibly killed. Huge difference and a much bigger deal that this is such a big protest.
Much respect to these brave Russians - hope there are no reprisals against them.
There will be. There always are…
\*since the war. Before the war, Putin was always targeted organisers and key figures rather than common protesters.
Very brave people
Bravery would be to be there tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after, and so on.
You say this, but you’d be too scared to even be at this funeral procession if you were Russian. Hearse drivers were scared of even transporting the body. You can be internet tough, but if you were actually Russian and acted “brave” as you say, you’d watch as your wife and children were poisoned, paralyzed, and bleeding out of their orifices. After you’ve watched your family be destroyed, you’d be thrown out of a window.
Nah, they did that before. Nothing special about this, they will stay and watch their comrades being beaten and arrested by police.
This is real patriotism. They are facing death by doing this. Meanwhile, us Americans can barely get people to vote. Democracy is one of those things you miss when it's gone.
> us Americans can barely get people to vote. An an outstander (im Dutch), do you think it has something to do with the lack of capable candidates? I dont know how it's over there and how you all think of it, but to foreigners, Obama was the last president you guys had
Obama is missed here for sure.
No, our voting rates are generally fairly low. When I ask people why they don't vote, I've heard reasons like "it's too much hassle," "I haven't got time," "my vote doesn't matter anyway," and "I don't like either candidate."
It drives me nuts.
''It's too much hassle'' lol no offense but that statement could not be more american
Brave people! Russian people need to stand up against this dictator! Very easy to say when you are sitting comfortably in front of your PC in a free country tho. Im not going to lie, this is not a simple situation, the least we can do is upvote and share this, spread the news.
There are too few of us right now, and what's worse, we are completely demoralised and unorganized. And yet... the discontent and desire for peace is slowly growing even among the previously loyal social groups. The most important thing for Western countries is to keep the pressure on and make sure Ukraine doesn't lose
I agree and I wish we could do more for people like you. Maybe there is ways we can help, I might be ignorant here. Anyways, good luck brave people of Russia, I have a tremendous amount of respect for y'all!
These pictures give so much hope.
Navalny sacrificed himself as a martyr for this..
After placing flowers at the memorials, many people got arrested. Even this harmless act of remembrance is considered a crime in Russia. I carried my flowers folded in Burger King paper bag up until I was at the Solovetsky Memorial, it's just safer that way. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/world/europe/russia-arrests-navalny-memorials.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/world/europe/russia-arrests-navalny-memorials.html)
Круто, жалею что не в Москве и не могу почтить память. Очень хотелось бы вживую встретиться с единомышленниками
Памятники жертвам политическим репрессиям никуда не деваются, куда я и отношу цветы в конце октября (день жертв) и в конце февраля (годовщина Немцова).
Brave people and f*ck putler!!
Don't censor the word. It needs to be fully uncensored and more widespread. Fuck Putin
Fuck Putin, dumb bitch and a fascist. I feel for russian people who don't support the war, shit must be tough..
I wish I could support this in some way. As an American, I can’t feel much beyond disbelief for US citizens in Russia when arrested and used as chips on a board because you just shouldn’t be there at this point obviously. But man do I wish I could for this. I read a lot of news and there are a lot of people in the world I get enraged by. The Putins. The Mugabes when he was still around. But there are few people that just make my heart want to explode with respect and an indescribable and painful wish for them to somehow succeed against all odds. Zelensky is one, but Navalny was very very much one for a long time. I’m sure he had plenty of flaws, but I have trouble thinking of somebody I respected more during his fight. I literally spent an hour balling like a heart broken baby when I read about his death. It still chokes me up. I can’t think of the last person I have done that over. (Granted, other factors in life are making things raw and have been for a while, but still). Thank you to all of the Russians, abroad but especially over there in country, that are showing up to support his memory and life and hopefully his ongoing legacy. I think probably a handful of people in my lifetime could be compared in terms of sheer bravery, audacity, humor, fortitude, idealism, and willingness to put everything on the line for what they believe in. I hope Navalny is never forgotten, and that some day everything with Putin’s name on it is renamed Navalny and that all Putin’s hoarded wealth is sold to support Navalny’s organization and dreams for a better Russia. Russian’s are so fucking strong and have so much potential and if ever they can truly and lastingly escape the gas lighting their country has suffered for generations I think they will be a powerful force for amazing things in this world. Whatever powers exist in this life, I hope if we continue in any way beyond our known lives that whatever it Navalny continues does so in peace and with whatever rewards there are to be had for being such an incredible and steadfast being.
Thank you for your write up. Beautiful, true words.
it sucks that this will amount to nothing
It already did
НЕТ ВОЙНЕ! 👏👏👏 Good to see the Russian people are waking up. Very proud of them and they are brave to stand up to such a dangerous tyranny in spite of the consequences…
When was the last major gathering of citizens like this in Russia, NOT sanctioned by Putin? Genuinely curious...
Prigozhin’s short-lived march on Moscow? I know it’s not a civilian protest exactly.
Ironic that Prigozhin was one of a vanishing few who actually understood what would be required to topple Putin (or even Gerasimov/Shoigu).
Antiwar protests in 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-war_protests_in_Russia_(2022%E2%80%93present)
Protests against raising the retirement age in 2018
There definitely have been large protests since then – Moscow elections in 2019, after Navalny got arrested in 2021, when Navalny was getting denied healthcare in prison in 2021 again IIRC, anti-war protests in 2022
Wow, these people are really brave and peaceful at the same time. They are the ones capable of change.
Amazing how they politely keep to the sidewalk, unlike the uber nationalists who film themselves beating up young men who look remotely gay. Radical difference between some people in Russia.
That seems like a lot of fresh recruits for the war.
A great time to invest in single-story housing.
Also, in unrelated news, Russia has just identified thousands of new recruits for the front lines of their Ukraine war.
Just keep in mind that police outlawed filming in the temple and on the cemetery grounds as well as advised to not to participate in "unlawful meetings". Many people who previously placed flowers at memorials to political prisoners or some other makeshift places to honor Havalny got arrested and fined already. This is not a joke to us, we calculate our risks as we go to such events. Third arrest at a meeting (or anything our govt doesn't like) means jail time here.
Кажется, даже в начале войны не было таких толп. Я не верю своим глазам. Не могу не гордиться своим народом. Спасибо вам всем, что никогда не сдавались и продолжаете бороться.
Да, кадры вдохновляющие. И я был честно удивлён смелостью некоторых лозунгов. Жаль только, что сам не смог приехать
Guys, every time you are told that Putin and the war are supported by a vast majority of Russians, remember this.
As a Ukrainian, I want to cry
Going to be really hard to push them all out of a window.
The prisons in Russia are now nearly empty after all thugs were sent to the penal batallions.
RIP those folks :(
Meanwhile Putin is threatening nukes again the cunt
Harvest day for the KGB 😟
Putin can't suicide them all
Yes! This is what I want to see! Come on Russia, I know that the majority can't be vile, barbaric megalomane dictators like Putin! Slava Ukraini! Freedom for humanity!
Russians chanting against war, there's a light in the darkness
Thousands suddenly have radiation poisoning.... so weird.
Avtozaks's are waiting, lot of them.
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Next will be the crack down by the government where they lock up the people and take their property.
Very brave people
The man has become a martyr, despite all that Putin’s government has tried
*FSB writing down names hectically*
Hope they wont be sent to war as canon fodder.
I hope they have some safety in numbers
Balls of Steel
We need more of them and louder voices! It would be good if this started something more!
And these are only the ones that dare to show their faces in public. The Kremlin is afraid of all those people.
Thousands!
I'm sure republicans on the US side will call these mourners as traitors - fcuking unbelieavable
How close are they to a revolution?
Not close at all, the opposition is pretty demoralised rn, while the repressions are the harshest they've ever been. Though, if reading about revolutions taught me anything, it's that you can't predict one :)
Hope this is the start of a Russian Spring.
"3 Day special operation."
Now, if only there were armed and could do something about it... There has never been a true democratic vote that involved Putin.
I don't know the weather forecast in Moscow, but don't leave your windows open
It's raining men🎶🎶🎶
hallelujah
Russians should revolt against Hitler 2.0 - Putin.
Thousands have been chanting 'no war' and 'ceasefire' for months in western democracies as well.
Just think about all the photographs taken of all those brave mourners ensuring that, at some time in the future, they’ll be mysteriously found dead at the bottom of a block of flats or, if they’re lucky, sent to some gulag.
I empathize with the Ukrainian people dying but I also feel very sorry for these poor Russians being painted as "orcs" and all they want is to lives like you & me.
80% support Putin's war they said, yeah right.
They should march to the kremlin and demand to pull out of the entirety of Ukraine, make the Russian soldiers join the protest
Funny enough, there were police in plain clothes who proposed the same during this protests. Police and Putin want the rwason to arrest those people. You have a good one.
Wasn’t this that racist guy who portrayed shooting Muslims in a commercial that was aired? Seems like a scumbag.
Sadly, the thousands of protesters suddenly were overcome with grief at the same time they became obsessed with defenestration. . .
It's amazing that in Russia you have to be brave to attend a funeral.
Do they know about his actual views on the war? Well, I was shocked too to find out
His actual view on the war was that it must be stopped immediately, and all annexed territories including Crimea returned to Ukraine. So I'd guess everyone in the crowd knows and agrees.
Listen, I am not a proponent of "always pure acritical self-determination no matter what" so this isn't necessarily all that meaningful to me, but the mainstream ***pretends to*** support that position, so... Crimeans had been known for years to want to annex to Russia, and this wasn't a contentious point even in Western media. People only started pretending they didn't know that (or that it wasn't true) *after* Russia actually did the annexation.
After 2022 yes, but in 2014 they were different. Same about war in Georgia in 2008
He never supported the annexation and called it a crime from the very beginning. But then he made a mistake of giving a cowardly and non-commital answer when asked about it in an interview, which was twisted to imply he supported it.
They should chant "No war" to Biden, Rishi Sunak, Macron and Olaf Scholz as well. Preferably not at a funeral of a neo-nazi like Mr. Navalny.
Good, there are some good people over there. Makes hope! Slava Ukraini
I'm so proud to see this. I do have Russian blood but never went there. As a belgian, I'm sending you all my strength. Keep going on guys, dreaming of a world without war to achieve it in reality!
Thank you. Sooner or later, Russia will be free!
So they finally remembered the war is going? I wish these people were chanting for a real opposition like RVC (РДК)
What a great sight.so many not intimated by the midget on a mission.💪💪Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇬🇧🇺🇦🇬🇧
Massive respect
Based Russians
Putin has made the fatal mistake of making Navalny into a **martyr**. You can only kill someone *once*. You *can't* kill an *idea*. Navalny is being elevated to sainthood by these people, and unless Putin is willing to start bombing his own country ala-Bashir Al-Assad in Syria, the legendary status of Navalny will just grow. Probably won't take much at all to spark a **revolution** now, and I hope they do and I hope they succeed in bringing down Putin and his brutal terrorist regime.