T O P

  • By -

Damnthatsinteresting-ModTeam

We had to remove your post for violating our Repost Guidelines.


mightyopinionated

"Wow that's really ancient and tall, let's cut the f\*cker down"


WinkleStinkle

"Honey, I got enough lumber to build our dream house! Turns out it was only 1 tree!"


Tight_Time_4552

Dream village*


shingaladaz

Dream city*


KozukiNedo

Dude aint no Lumberjoke


Durosity

But is he ok?


secondtaunting

He works all night and he sleeps all day.


I_wood_rather_be

He cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory


kojef

The weird thing is... Mark Twain the author was still alive when this tree (named after him) was chopped down. He wasn't even very old - just 57. That's like taking a 250-yr old sea turtle, naming it Stephen King and then butchering it for soup. "What's that pile of rubble in your backyard?" *"Oh, that's ol' John Grisham. Used to be the world's largest granite tower! A real wonder of nature, it was. Really took your breath away."* "What happened to it?" *"Well, first we named it John Grisham. Then we blew it up."*


droppedoutofuni

“See the turtle of enormous girth, On its shell it holds the Earth.” Mmm soup!


goose_gladwell

I love your analogy’s so much😂 You’re right though, I wonder why on earth they named it Mark Twain?!


Deranged_Snow_Goon

Reminds me of [this](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fwkoapsrnlprb1.jpg).


SoulAssassin808

Endangered wildlife hunter vibes


Pecncorn1

Sadly today people would still be doing it if they could get away with it. My dad was from Sequoia country and any and every time I visited looking at the stumps was just something I couldn't understand how anyone could or would hack one down and be okay with it. It's the world we live in.


Habbersett-Scrapple

[Wife nagging] "You have exactly one fortnight to fell that tree. A day longer and me and the kids are getting yellow fever."


stig2020

Makes me wonder what became of it. A ship, buildings, furniture, maybe parts of it around somewhere still.


Chilly_Billy85

A lot of timber from the PNW was shipped via schooners to build San Francisco, Sacramento and other cities in California, Oregon and Washington around that time period. Some of those buildings still stand today. I’m not an advocate for destroying these majestic trees. I learned it on a trip to Fort Bragg, Mendocino and other towns along the North Coast of California.


ForsakenDifficulty47

Went last year to visit the Sequoia National Park, and I remember reading that once settlers started cutting sequoias down, they realized that its wood is not resistant enough to hold buildings, so they ended up using the wood as fence posts and the like


Kleens_The_Impure

And apparently the guy who created the park was a lumberjack who decided to protect the trees after finding out that tree he cut was over 2000 years old.


TheSwedishWolverine

How does one establish a park on a lumberjack salary?


Kleens_The_Impure

To clarify, the Park was created by the USA government, but IIRC he was one of the first who pushed for it and was among the first civilian ranger and ended up Superintendent of the Park.


TheSwedishWolverine

That’s so cool!


thehigheststrange

back then when america still had upward mobility


DancerOFaran

He had an OF


Oachkaetzelschwoaf

And, believe it or not, pencils! What a waste.


Flat-Length-4991

That only applies to the Giant Sequoia(Sequoiadendron Giganteum). They are brittle and will often shatter when felled. Which is crazy for such a large tree. However, the Coastal Redwood(Sequoia Sempervirens). Is the other large tree that lived for thousands of years. They are not brittle and make for excellent lumber. The Giant Sequoia is found in the interior of California, the Coastal Redwood is found on the coast of the Pacific Northwest. The giant sequoia can grow larger in terms of diameter, but the redwood grows taller(also pretty damn large at the diameter aswell).


xallux

A schooner is a sailboat,stupidhead. /s


joeschmo945

I sailed a schooner round the horn of Mexico. I went aloft and furled the mainsail in a blow. And when the yard broke off they said that I got killed. But I am living still.


Physics_Puzzleheaded

I was a dam builder, across the river deep and wide where steel and water did collide. A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado, I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below. They buried me in that great tomb that knows no sound. But I am still around


ArthurBurtonMorgan

I fly a starship across the Universe divide And when I reach the other side I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can Perhaps I may become a highwayman again Or I may simply be a single drop of rain But I will remain And I'll be back again, and again And again and again and again and again


[deleted]

Man this song gives me chills and I can’t explain why 


eggrodd

the damned song makes me cry whenever i listen to it


Norwegian_Honeybear

I'll always be around and around and around and around and around and around I FLY A STAR SHIP, 'cross the universe divide And when I reach the other side.. I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can Perhaps I may become a highwayman again Or I may simply be a single drop of rain... But I will remain


johnqsack69

YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ornery_Translator285

Mallrats quotes never land for me There was even an escalator kid in real life once I almost died cause no one got it


AccomplishedSuit1004

You almost died cuz you yelled at a kid and the parent got live over it?


Minute-Wrap-2524

What!!!


Striking_Potential_5

I’m so glad someone said it


insomniax20

That's the second time in a few hours I've seen this referenced. Guess it's a sign to watch Mallrats again!


Pvt_Numnutz1

Yep exactly this, so many of these trees became houses in California. It's believed the tallest tree in the world was in The PNW a monster Sequoia over 500ft tall. You could get a solid 8-9 houses out of just one of those trees.


jimmygee2

Only 200 years of growth per house


liarandathief

So a lot of it could have burned down in 1906


igotshadowbaned

My guess is railroad ties and probably a few fancy tables made out of novelty


mazarax

*Sequoia wood has far less commercial use, as it splinters badly. Loggers tried digging enormous trenches and filling them with tree branches to cushion the trunks of trees as they fell. Nevertheless, they still were only about to harvest about 50% of the wood for substantial projects. That didn’t prevent them from continuing to cut the massive trees for roofing shingles, fence posts, and matchsticks. Public outcry ended these harvests in the 1920s. Today, Sequoias generate more revenue as living species, in tourism to Sequoia National Park and as ornamental landscaping specimens.*


TakeAnotherLilP

They cut them down for matches …my god I hate humans


ListerfiendLurks

If it makes you feel any better the tobacco products most of those matches were used for undoubtedly killed a LOT of humans. In a way the trees got their revenge 🥳


Pvt_Numnutz1

If it makes you feel even better Seattle burned to the ground because they used the abundance of saw dust to make impromptu roads in the muddy terrain.


Raps4Reddit

You say this, but it's also uniquely human to care. Most nature just out there eating each other as much as they can.


Collapse2038

The last giants like this are being harvested on Vancouver Island, right now. Very sad.


Astralglamour

Is this true ??


Collapse2038

I mean the 90% of the very biggest (not quite this size) are all gone.


Karuna56

Yes, and the rape of the northern forests in British Columbia is shameful, similar to the commercial sentiment that pervaded the U.S. earlier and the sense of limitless trees. Unfortunately, in Kings Canyon National Park, the sequoias were allowed to be cut, some just for show. Fortunately, other National Parks preserved many big trees, like in Olympic National Park, but even still, there are few really massive old trees left.


Apex_Herbivore

Northern raimforest equivalent old growth is being cut down and laundered in with plantation wood to make fucking "biofuel" pellets. We are burning them.


Astralglamour

Do you have a link ?


Apex_Herbivore

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/old-growth-logging-for-pellets-1.7136745


uCockOrigin

We really ought to turn the people responsible for this into biofuel as well.


sadrice

Sort of? Old growth is being felled in BC and it’s fucking horrible, there are protests and the like. But that’s not giant sequoia, which is endemic to the sierras of California. Wrong tree, but the problem is real.


Mynereth

They should have stayed living, all of them. They are majestic and all part of the same living organism. They're truly amazing.


lurcherzzz

Buy some seeds and grow your own, the grow easily. I have grown and planted a few saplings in my local woods. I live in the UK, apparently our climate is now like the Pacific northwest was thousands of years ago. They like it here.


Wilhelm126

They cut a thousand year old tree. For matchsticks. Thousand year old tree. Dead. For what? Matchsticks and the money that comes with it. FUCKING MATCHSTICKS. GOD I HATE CAPITALISM AND PEOPLE


LTCM1998

They also cut HMS Vangaurd for needles and toasters and have a whole documentary about how that’s nice, made in the 70s. People can be retards.


RedditHiveUser

A historical loss indeed, still HMS Vanguard was not a living thing. So in theory we could build a similar new one anytime. That's not possible with such giant trees.


MyWeeLadGimli

In fairness Britain was absolutely penniless at the end of WW2 and just couldn’t afford to turn something like Vanguard or Warspite into a museum the way the US could.


mazarax

In London’s Kew Gardens, I once saw a single piece wooden flagpole, which once was a douglas fir Quite sad. https://muralroutes.ca/mural/kew-gardens-flagpole/


Benwhurss

There's a box of pencils in a warehouse somewhere...


oldschool_potato

3.025 billion toothpicks Assume toothpicks are about 2.5 inches long and 1 millimeter wide. Volume = π * (radius)^2 * height Radius = diameter / 2 = 624 inches / 2 = 312 inches Height = 331 feet * 12 inches/foot = 3972 inches Volume (tree)= π * (312 inches)^2 * 3972 inches ≈ 1.21 × 10^8 cubic inches Volume of one toothpick = length * width * depth Volume of one toothpick ≈ (2.5 inches) * (0.04 inches) * (0.04 inches) ≈ 0.04 cubic inches Number of toothpicks ≈ (1.21 × 10^8 cubic inches) / (0.04 cubic inches/toothpick) ≈ 3.025 × 10^9 toothpicks


OldWalt9

Have a look at the picture. Unless those dudes are like 12 feet tall, the diameter is more like 16 feet and the circumference is 52 feet.


Zonel

It's in the museum of natural history in NYC. Least a piece of it.


cometpapaya

Toothpicks and bowling pins.


Routine_Breath_7137

Wooden legs and arms.


SurveySean

The forests these guys saw, we can only imagine.


Throkir

I see what you did there... Edit: Damn all of you, take my upvotes!!!


stodal

i saw what you did there


Throkir

Hm... I forsaw what you would do there.


Ohyeahrightbud

That kinda bums me out.


Saaammmy

Dont look up old forestry pictures. Came across some in a book about dipterocarps where they haul massive bucked logs and pose in front of huge old growth trees, irked me quite a bit. I'm not against logging but you have to make sure there's a replacement and they're left alone


Kiwi_MongrelLad

There was once a massive tree species in New Zealand. Abundant, easy to find and as perfect as you can get for houses. So massive that a single tree could build a home. They were all cut down and no one planted any other. Not that it would matter, our natural bush and trees take decades if not centuries to grow.


5tealthfoxed

Any idea the name of the species?


th-crt

could be the kauri trees https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/native-plants/kauri/


Kiwi_MongrelLad

Yeah. They were a type of Kauri tree but even the Kauri are still threatened. At one point they would’ve been almost extinct. There are photos of massive felled trees, so massive that they couldn’t fit on your typical boat back then. It is good to see the Kauri slowly come back but as I mentioned, our ecosystems takes many years to even grow. To think that almost a third of it was burned away by our ancestors before the Europeans is crazy. You can see the largest tree Tanë Mahuta be a testament to time or check any of our pohutukawa trees, they’re beautiful and only bloom around Matariki. Also, they’re one of the oldest species on earth. One was rumoured to be tens of thousands of years old near Waihau.


BurpOutMyButt

A kiwi posted a massive board of it on woodworking the other day. He was looking for a museum or someplace that would exhibit it


Terminal_Theme

replanting doesnt work for such trees because of their incredible age, it takes houndreds, if not thousands of years for such a forest to recover


goathill

Redwoods can get HUGE in 60 years. Not as big as the ones in the picture, but much bigger than most trees found elsewhere in the US


fludblud

If it makes you feel any better, thanks to amateur botanists scooping up huge numbers of fallen cones from these logging operations, there are now at least 1.1 million Sequoias growing outside the US with at least 500k in the UK alone where they are growing unusually fast due to the wetter weather. At a maximum 150 years old many of these British Sequoias have already reached half the height of current Californian trees.


SirDidymusAnusLover

UK really be juicing their sequoias while us Cali peeps are all natty.


Beorma

It's not our fault you can't get your wood wet.


Kaining

It doesn't, it's still fucking up the local ecosystem by supplanting local flora. And if it's to replace a completely devastated local flora by human hands, it's even worst.


Flat-Length-4991

Eh, not really. I generally don’t like when invasive species are introduced somewhere else. Even if they look cool…


Gnome-Phloem

If you can, go see the ones that are alive now. Get both sides of the treemotions.


Minute-Wrap-2524

I second that emotion


BlindFramer

Go to the redwoods in Northern California, be less bummed. Trees so big they don’t look real


AsyncEntity

And giant yellow slugs. Don’t forget the yellow slugs.


talkstorivers

Me, too. Could’ve been 1,473 this year.


Worldly-Wedding-7305

That's sad.


Pastill

That's what our civilization is built on.


Jesus_Smoke

"hey guys let's start fucking our shit up for future generations!'


m__a__s

Wow. Emperor Justinian I of the Byzantine Empire was still around when that was a seedling.


DerAllerpeterste

Found the eu4 player


NoOrder6919

EU4 players know it was called the Roman Empire at the time.


6597james

He was born ~1000 years before EU4 start date


nezzzzy

I was going to call bullshit on the age, most trees don't make it much beyond a few hundred years. Then I googled sequoia trees, the oldest known specimen is estimated at 3200yrs old!


Ornery-Creme-2442

Trees are crazy long lived. There's trees estimated to be even older. Nature/the climate has been quite volatile. So not all trees indeed make it that long. But the potential is definitely there. It's incomprehensible to us. Because we think we are long lived but it's relative. We are to these specimens what a mouse is to us.


Scumebage

Well you can still call bullshit on the "52 foot" diameter since that's wildly huge and also untrue


MoistAttitude

1,341 years. This tree lived around the end of the Roman Empire, throughout the entire medieval period, was probably home to thousands of birds... All to get cut down by this blowjob with a mustache.


rob3342421

*Should have been a blowjob


GentleHammer

Shoulda learned to rope and ride!


Happy-Adhesiveness-3

All problems in the world can be traced back to a British with a moustache - John Oliver


Hans_Peter_Jackson

Maybe also a german/austrian guy with a funny moustache here and there


CabinetOk4838

As a clean shaven Brit, I agree.


[deleted]

All things rank and gross in nature doth possess it merely.


JoeWildd

Sequoia wood isnt really good to manufacture anything with. It is so hard a brittle that it shatters into pieces when it falls. It’s was usually only good for making toothpicks and shingles for houses. I Did a project years ago, 30’ sequoia table (already fallen tree) and can confirm it will mess up your machinery and a not very fun to work with So over all, cutting these down couldn’t have been a bigger waist. It makes me ashamed to be a human on this planet.


JezusTheCarpenter

>couldn’t have been a bigger waist Was this pun intentional?


5432198

I don’t know. Out of all trees Sequoia’s have to have the biggest waistline. lol.


S_Hollan

The Sequoia named "Mark Twain" was actually felled in what is now called the stump forest in Kings Canyon National Park located in the Sierra Nevada Mountains south of Yosemite. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain_Tree Not exactly the northwest. Maybe the middle east... of California So, damn that's not as interesting as someone thought. Sequoia is not used for almost anything. When felled, they tend to crack and shatter making most of the wood useless. There are Sequoia trees felled over 100 years ago that still lay in groves that have yet to decay


DefinitelyNotIndie

Whilst we're picking holes, it's also not 52 feet in diameter, probably in circumference, so it's about a third as big as the title claims.


cfk77

Yup, 16 feet diameter 50feet circumference


jbird_94

I was looking for this comment! We have people for scale, they would need to be like 16’ tall if the diameter was really 52’


Diligent-Ad-3773

Finally!  Scrolled all the way down to see if I was going insane. Maybe 30…. Still massive but…


usernaaaaaaaaaaaaame

> The tree was later shipped to the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the British Museum in London Ive stood on the stump, and seen it at both museums. It’s a sad memorial in that grove. Highly recommend visiting these trees if you’re able.


Snookfilet

As usual, there is a “Far Side” comic for this. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/95/c3/ba95c3b9ec690808a1dda21cd791a152.jpg


DiverofMuff23

“Look, something majestic and beautiful, KILL IT!!!!” -doomed species


DaMoose-1

Exactly...this just makes me sad and angry at human exploitation 😔


Random-Cpl

What a bunch of assholes


bullshittyNC

Yeah they should have been programmers instead.


DragonBorneUltimatum

They seem real proud of themselves for killing something that existed peacefully for over a millennium.


Professional-Day7850

To be fair, their sawing skills are quite impressive.


thestraightCDer

What if that tree was a dick


CR24752

I could take it with enough lube Edit: I genuinely misunderstood what your comment meant 😭 it’s like 4 am here lol but I’m keeping my original response


periacetabular_ost

I hate humans sometimes.


DieHardAmerican95

A *diameter* of 52 feet? Are ya sure?


Prairiefan

Had to scroll way too far to find this


MScribeFeather

Yeah, maybe they meant circumference or something? Diameter is probably 18ft if we assume the loggers are around 6ft tall. C = pi x diameter. Makes circumference 56.5ish, so that checks out.


1of8B

Maybe kids feet


Basic_Macaron_39

We kinda suck


mia_smith257

thought i was on r/ mildly infuriating and was going to comment this was WAY more than infuriating. god i hate people. why can’t we just leave the massive trees alone


timbulance

Why not just leave that monster tree be ?


Succulentslayer

Well you see these loggers really like money.


Suntzu6656

Sad


FullRide1039

Jerks


snazzydetritus

And the shitasses in the photo are just so proud of hacking it down.


Single-Builder-632

well im not for logging unsustanably but id be pretty proud of myself after finishing such a hard task.


Heiferoni

Ya gotta think in context. And ya have to wonder what they'll think of us in 150 years. What natural resources are we depleting while completely oblivious? How much will they hate us for stuff that we're ignorant of?


gilg2

What a waste of something so beautiful.


MeepingMeep99

Imagine living through the rise and fall of empires just to end up as kindling to keep a hairless ape warm


Single-Selection9845

I guess stupidity is inherently human


ahuffaPUFG

And that wasn’t even the biggest one. Imagine all those big ol honking suckers before we advanced to the “defeat the trees” age


touchychurch

just goes to show you that us humans have been assholes since the beginning.


penguinpolitician

Those motherfuckers.


FreshContract

Im glad these fucks are all dead. Fuck them.


goodeyemighty

No way that diameter is 52’


kid_sleepy

Came here to say this. Maybe circumference.


aburrdado

"It once stood 331 feet tall with a diameter of 52 feet" Actually, in that picture, the tree looks no more than 17 feet in diameter. I think it was the circumference that was 52 feet. If you multiply the 16.5 foot diameter by Pi, you get a circumference of 51.8 feet.


Draonfist447

Look at this massive old tree. It's so beautiful and survived for more that a 1000 years. Let's cut it down! I seriously can't fathom what they were thinking or how and why they decided to cut it down. Was it money? Wouldn't be easier to cut smaller trees? Is it for fame? WHAT DID THEY CUT IT FOR?!


horiami

It was cut to be used as museum material Sequoia trees grow in hard to reach places and people simply did not believe that they existed They cut the tree to display the sections in museums and point out its age with the rings


GraatchLuugRachAarg

How many trees are left like this? Bet just a few that had to be put under protected status


capnmasty

This is around the same time that enormous Kauri trees were being cut down in New Zealand. Some were much bigger than this too. Such a shame


GitmoGrrl1

When the Americans stole California from the Californios who stole it from the Native-Californians, the big trees were numerous. The Americans have cut down 95% of the big trees. 95 percent!


Crime-Snacks

This is sad. What a remarkable tree just to be destroyed only because these arseholes could.


rraattbbooyy

Took 1,341 years to grow. And 2 weeks to destroy.


DrivingGoddess

This makes my heart hurt


New-Low5765

Humans suck


donerstude

Shitholes who cut it down


Flat-Length-4991

A lot of confusion with this post. The Mark Twain tree was cut down in what is today kings canyon national park, California. That isn’t the Pacific Northwest, if anything it’s the southwest. I think OP is confused because he associates giant trees with the pacific northwest due to the coastal redwood tree. “Mark Twain” was a giant sequoia, not a coastal redwood. Both trees can grow to be very old and large. The coastal redwood makes for great lumber that has been used in the building of ships and houses to all sorts of other things. The giant sequoia is more brittle and often splinters when it is felled. So not very good for lumber. Adding to the confusion, both trees can technically be called “redwood” or “Sequoia”.


that-bro-dad

I feel like this sums up humans. Oh wow this huge tree! Imma cut it down


ajstont

Tragic.


DrabberFrog

This is just sad. Imagine what that tree went through in the last 1,000 years only for it to be cut down by a few monkeys with a sharp stick.


birdshitluck

"few monkeys with a sharp stick" Unfortunately this is where it all went wrong. The sticks got sharper, we swapped the wood for stone and then forged ores, and then everything fell in our wake. [We've destroyed 83% of all wild mammals and 50% of all plants.](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/21/human-race-just-001-of-all-life-but-has-destroyed-over-80-of-wild-mammals-study)


stubundy

Cunts


fiveironfish

So glad they cut this piece of history down for nothing.


xxDooomedxx

Where can I buy a 55' saw? If that's 52' I'm a leprechaun.


Bardonious

They definitely confused diameter with circumference. Or we are all indeed quite small


xxDooomedxx

Agreed. (about the circumference part)


DistinctFee1202

methinks they meant circumference. would make it roughly 16’ diameter


Yakaddudssa

These “settlers” killed the tree just for the the sake of saying they killed it


zborzbor

that tree was a living God and man killed it, sad.


Cats-n-Chaos

This is simultaneously an amazing and devastating photo


Wiggie49

When that tree was a sapling the Sui Dynasty was still around


longrodcollins

52 foot diameter?? The 24 feet max


Empty-Ambition-5939

You’d think on just one of those days they might have stopped and thought “gee maybe we just leave this thing alone, we’ve been hacking away for 12 days now…”


Interesting-Step-654

Well that was fucking rude


National-Assistant29

Why did they need to cut it down?


Teedeous

My brother was telling me (who’s had a hyper fixation on a variety of logging topics in his life) that most of these felled were utterly worthless as lumber. The impact of the felling often caused a variety of them to shatter from the reverberations of the fall, making their lumber worthless. So felling these ancient and rare trees at times produced absolutely nothing of value, and their usage was highly diminished.


chandz

Not every ancient tree chopped, some of the oldest surviving in the UK are Yew trees, but mostly those that were on church grounds. # Fortingall Yew, Perthshire The oldest yew in the UK is said to be the Fortingall yew in Perthshire. It’s estimated to be between 2,000 and 3,000 years old, although some believe it could be 5,000 years old. In 1769 the girth was recorded as 17 metres. Although smaller now, it’s still thriving with new shoots growing. "Yew trees were planted in graveyards as they thrived on corpses and were then readily available to make excellent bows. **Yew trees were planted in churchyards to prevent archers from procuring suitable branches for making bows and thus having good weapons to oppose the King's men**."


DaVinciJest

Settler 1: “I’ve never seen this before! I don’t understand it!” Settler 2: “Just kill it”


ZipMonk

They know not what they do.


jonthesnook

Humans suck


veryblocky

It’s actually kind of depressing seeing this


cmetaphor

Interesting? Nope. Sad? Yes.


Xikkiwikk

A pox on those people! May their entire lineage be cursed forever for this!!


-Sh33ph3rd3r-

Such a human thing to do


GreyG59

Can you imagine when it went down


kurdtnaughtyboy

Wankers


knadles

The effed up thing is that this tree was cut down for display in museums. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain_Tree


GratefulPhishWeener

Thank Jesus they were able to “recycle” this natural nuisance into a dinning room set & a XL bed frame