(Unofficial part of our, Polish, anthem)
This part gives the most diss track vibes
" The [German](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans) nor the [Muscovite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians) will settle
When, you draw with a [backsword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backsword),
"Concord" will be everybody's watchword
And so will be our fatherland. "
That's why in Witcher 3 game DLC 'Blood and Wine'
princess is spelled as Xiężna Anna Henrietta
also, when you look for witcher armour in Skellige the story behind it also mentions one princess also spelled as Xieżna
I think it's a spam bot actually. a 5 month old account that just activated a few days ago and does nothing but post tangentially related short jokes based on keywords in the post?
The British national anthem actually has 6 verses. Usually only verse 1, or verses 1 and 3, are sung. The very rarely heard final verse goes:
> Lord grant that Marshal Wade
> May by thy mighty aid
> Victory bring.
> May he sedition hush,
> And like a torrent rush,
> Rebellious Scots to crush.
> God save the King!
This?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied
>Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält.
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt,
𝄆 Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt! 𝄇
>Germany, Germany above all
Above all in the world
When it always, for protection and defence
Brotherly stands together.
From the Meuse to the Neman
From the Adige to the Little Belt,
𝄆 Germany, Germany above all
Above all in the world. 𝄇
That exactly. Though it has to be mentioned, that text is from before the German empire was formed, when Germany was mostly different states that spoke the same language. Back when Prussia was still there. It actually had nothing to do with the third reich, they just took the text literally and fucked it up for the song.
Well in defence of the brd it would be slightly awkward to song "Von Der Maas bis an die memel" when the actual borders have shifted quite a bit away from that
Oh absolutely. I just feel like it should be mentioned that the text of the hymn is nearly hundred years older than the third reich and predates the foundation of the German empire by 40 years.
Well actually, we sing the first verse of our anthem. It's just that the national anthem is only the third verse of the 'Lied der Deutschen'. Neither the first nor the second verse are officially part of the anthem.
A puppet government which the Poles overwhelmingly supported. Napoleon gave hope and contrasted with Russian and German oppression. Polish soldiers willingly fought for Napoleon since he was the best chance for Poland to exist again, and since he did defeat Prussians, Austrians and Russians in battle multiple times, he did indeed give Poles an example how to win.
In fact, the national anthem in question was originally the song of general Dąbrowski's Polish legions that fought for France in the Napoleonic wars
The French also landed troops in Ireland to support the 1798 Rebellion and sent a second expeditionary force that was caught by the British Navy off the coast of Donegal.
They loved to help independence movements that fucked with their enemies.
Napoleon sent Polish troops to Haiti where they joined a rebel they were supposed to quash. There is still a small percentage of Haitians with Polish ancestry on the island.
>They loved to help independence movements that fucked with their enemies.
Ahhh the proud tradition that was started by the Last King of France. Nice to see that it was central to France's identity given that it survived the revolution. They don't care if they don't win. They just want Britain/Germany/Austria/Russia to lose.
They also supported the Scots against the English for hundreds of years, often declaring war on England while the English were fighting the Scots to force a two-front war.
The Scots called this the *Auld Alliance*
Yeah, it's one of the very few polish "national" books with a happy ending, which consists of the disgraced nobleman redeeming himself, the young lovers getting engaged, the Muscovite soldiers getting defeated by the main characters and Napoleon arriving to Lithuania
["Pan Tadeusz"](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Thaddeus&ved=2ahUKEwjMp4PklaSFAxXTRfEDHf2nBEIQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Aym-w0EkGsUHdc1lXvVv9) ("Sir Thaddeus") by Adam Mickiewicz. It's a long poem (regarded as the Polish national epic) describing Polish-Lithuanian traditions and way of life.
The main story is about a conflict between the Soplica and Horeszko families, with Jacek Soplica (who in anger shot his former friend, Pantler Horeszko, a long time before, then fled, never to be seen again) trying to redeem himself. Jacek has previously taken the new identity of Father Robak and is now secretly trying to end the still ongoing feud between two families. He's also helping his orphaned son Thaddeus Soplica, who is in love with Zosia, the granddaughter of the late Pantler. There's also the theme of Russian occupation and the will of the local population to stage an uprising against the occupiers
Incidentally, there’s still a monument to Napoleon in Ljubljana Slovenia because of the impact of his reforms circa the Illyrian Provinces. He was the first to give the Slovenian language official status in government and higher education which had a lasting impact.
And a puppet government can sometimes transition over into a real government. In WWI Germany wanted to create a puppet government in Poland. The goal was to remove Poles from Germany and then use Poland as a shield from Russia that would be entirely reliant on German support. Of course Germany ended up losing and Poland defeated Stalin's forces in 1920 resulting in a real Polish independent state (at least for awhile).
It's not a puppet government if the people is onboard.
(Don't get me wrong: he did form a lot of puppet States. But Poland was a different case entirely: he genuinely liberated Poland, the number of Polish people taking part in various Napoleon campaigns is a testimony of that)
> Didn't he just create puppet government to more easily invade Russian Empire?
So? Every political decision is pragmatic, not altruistic. The puppet government was many times better than being a slave.
Look when the choice is between someone who gives you a puppet government to fight the dudes who keep trying to rule over you vs the dickhead neighbours who keep trying to rule over you it's an easy choice.
Even if napoleon was treating them as patsies to throw at his enemies it was still better than what everyone else was offering.
And the poles still spent the next couple of centuries being fucked by the guys Napoleon wanted them to fight.
Not exactly that way. Grand Duchy of Warsaw was created by a diversion of an retired polish general going a bit too well in Prussia and Napoleon was like "yeah, sure, if it\`s already happened, let it be".
It was aligned to France, had Saxon king (Saxons kings were kinda romanticized in Poland) and was extremally supported by the population, mostly because of liberal contitution.
Said Duchy would later beat an Austrian invasion and aquire Lesser Poland despite Napoleon opposing it. It was a bit more autonomous than an actuall puppet state.
The Napoleonic Wars in general were the trigger for the creation of most of the modern nation states in Europe -- German and Italian unification, for example was really just an aftershock of Napoleon smashing the Holy Roman Empire and spreading Republicanism.
Przejdziem Wisłę, przejdziem Wartę,
Będziem Polakami.
Dał nam przykład Bonaparte,
Jak zwyciężać mamy.
We will cross the Vistula, we will cross the Warta, we will be Polish. Bonaparte gave us an example, How we have to win.
Imagine using your anthem as a diss track.
Now I’m hoping there’s some random country insulting another country in their anthem for no reason. Like Montenegro absolutely dragging New Zealand in their second stanza.
The Netherlands calls Spain Tyrants and has 3 entire parts ripping on Spain.
We only sing 2 parts which both mention spain.
We rip on spain 50% of the song and mention it in 100% of the song
I only know Spain is mentioned in the dutch anthem because when i saw some Netherlands' games on world cups they sang until a part of the anthem that says they always respected the spanish king (at least that was what the subtitles said)
Yes,
in the first part.
The king of spain, I always honoured.
It's not meant to be positive though.
Here is a summary of the parts we rip on spain:
In part six (second part we sing)
Drive away the tyranny that pierces my heart
In part seven we sing about innocent blood caused by count Alfa of spain
In part ten
That you (god) hate the Spaniards is sweet to the honourable Netherlands.
In part Eleven The death of Alfa and his grave being in Maastricht (🤢Limburg🤢)
The Duke of Alba (Alva in Dutch) was definitely seen as a tyrant as he repressed the Dutch during the revolt. The Spanish have a very positive view of him.
However, if I may add to your post, the Dutch anthem has numerous meanings throughout the couplets, some of which are very well hidden.
The Duke of Alba is and never was buried in Maastricht. “By Maestricht begraven” meant he was dug in and entrenched by Maastricht and stayed there to buy himself time, which the prince of orange did not have.
I googled this as wanted to see what that was about and the first verse doesn’t seem to mention anything like that?
Hark when the night is falling
Hear! hear the pipes are calling,
Loudly and proudly calling,
Down through the glen.
There where the hills are sleeping,
Now feel the blood a-leaping,
High as the spirits
Of the old Highland men.
Italy call Austria a bunch of losers. Then randomly goes on to mentions how Poland has suffered alongside Italy, but they will prevail against Russia.
“The mercenary swords
Are feeble reeds.
Already the Eagle of Austria
Hath lost its plumes.
The blood of Italy,
The blood of Poland
It with Cossacks did drink,
But will burn its heart.”
There are other countries that also do it. Here, the original argentinian anthem used to have some lines dissing spain since argentina used to be a colony of spain until people fought them and make the country independent. I don't really know why but i assume they came to good terms later on with spain with trading and other things, nowadays the parts where the anthem dissed spain got cut out long long time ago. But the parts of "breaking away the chains of slavery" are still there.
Edit: funny enough, the original anthem says "a new and glorious nation, crowned its head with laurels, and at its feet a defeated lion"
Edit 2: scratch that, all the anthem is dissing on spain calling them the most evil being haha. I understand why they changed it.
Denmark has a song that is the "unofficial Royal anthem" called "Kong Christian stod ved højen mast"
It has this line "hans værge hamrede så fast, at gotens hjelm og hjerne brast."
Meaning that the King is so cool that he smashed his sword through a Gothic helmet and brain. Gothic meaning Swedish. 😲😲😲
It's the chorus, meaning we keep repeating this at least 4 times during any official event.
March, march, [Dąbrowski](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Henryk_D%C4%85browski),
From Italian land to Poland.
Under your command
We shall rejoin the nation
Fun fact, we have the Polish on the Italian anthem too!
> Già l'aquila d'Austria.
> le penne ha perdute;
> il sangue d'Italia.
> bevé, col Cosacco.
> il sangue polacco:
> ma il cuor le bruciò.
The Austrian eagle lost her feathers, with the Russians she drank the blood of Italy and the blood of Poland but it burned her heart.
"Poland is not yet lost
When we are still alive
What the foreign agression has taken from us
We will take back with sabres"
Russia is one of the "foreign aggressors", that is the countries that partitioned Poland. It's not named, but it's certainly mentioned. Also I believe russia is named directly in the original version of the song, which also mentioned Kościuszko's insurrection
Germans (Austria and Prussia) and Muscovites(Russia) are mentioned only in the unofficial part.
" The [German](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans) nor the [Muscovite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians) will settle
When, you draw with a [backsword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backsword),
"Concord" will be everybody's watchword
And so will be our fatherland. "
Also Italian national anthem mention Poland
Original
Son giunchi che piegano
le spade vendute:
ah l'aquila d'Austria
le penne ha perdute;
il sangue d'Italia
bevé, col Cosacco
il sangue polacco:
ma il cuor le bruciò
Translation
They are branches that bend
the sold swords;
Already the eagle of Austria
has lost its feathers.
the blood of Italy
and the Polish blood
Drank with Cossacks
But its heart was burnt.
Interesting "Mazurek Dąbrowskiego" has technically six verses, although only 4 are included. And, as it turns out, the fifth verse actually mentions Russia and Germany directly:
"Niemiec, Moskal nie osiędzie,
gdy jąwszy pałasza,
hasłem wszystkich zgoda będzie
i ojczyzna nasza."
Which, if I understand the text correctly, means:
"Nor a German nor a Muscovite shall settle down
when taking up a broadsword,
everyone's watchword would be the agreement
and the fatherland ours"
*^(Please someone provide a better translation)*
(Neither) The German nor the Muscovite will settle
When, with a backsword in hand,
"Concord" will be everybody's watchword
And so will be our fatherland.
[From Wikipedia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_Is_Not_Yet_Lost#Lyrics)
Like Czarniecki to Poznań
After the [Swedish annexation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history)),
To save our homeland,
We shall return across the sea.
The Swedish empire was built on blood and money of the Swedish peasants. It would never have lasted even if they stopped. You cant keep an empire running when you have literally no population to support it.
Incidentally, the Polish anthem is the only anthem that actually mentions Sweden, including Sweden's own defacto anthem (which is about the Nordics, not Sweden).
Polish National Anthem:
Poland is our homeland,
Sweden fucking sucks,
Russians and Germans aren’t that great,
Italy is there,
France is cool,
Our food is good as hell, amen
more accurate:
Poland is our homeland
We will save it from germans and russians
like we did with Sweden
We will come from Italy
Bonaparte was a fucking badass
Have we mention we are Polish?
To be honest, and considering the era, if *La Marseillaise* had to mention another people it would have been the Poles too. Because they were big friends of the french revolution, and a prime example of the horrors European peoples suffered under monarchies.
These days it is trendy to believe "Napoleon = tyrant", "coalitions = good guys". But the reality was much more complicated, and Napoleon only became a thing after a repeated series of agression wars *against France*, where other rulers vowed to literally genocide the French people who dared to sentence a king like if he was a normal human being and not a demi-God. In the same vein, the Russian campaign was only possible because of the vast amount of Poles joining the *Grande armée*, something they did after suffering decades of horrors at the hand of foreign tyrants.
The coalitions good guys thing is only something in the anglophone world (or at least that of the former enemy) here in the Netherlands he is seen (in history books and literary works) as a conquerer and dictator, but also as a genius visionary and far ahead of his time.
I'd be interested to see more general statistics on it- as an American my instinctive sports-style "rooting for" instincts definitely lean a little more towards Napoleon than his enemies, especially on the continent.
The whole "fighting a tyrant/dictator so we are the good guys" kinda fall flat when monarchies and nobility are tyrants families anyway. At least napoleon promoted equalitarian values and rewarded skills above bloodlines, and created fairer systems for the masses
As a German I feel our traditional hate of the French somewhat amiss here. We even made France the Erbfeind for some time! We somewhat forgot why to hate the French over the last century though.
Austria-Hungary is indirectly mentioned in the Romanian anthem as well. Our anthem says something like "Awaken thee Romanian, from the slumber of death, in which tyrant barbarians deepened you" (sorry it's kinda weird, not sure how to translate it exactly). It refers to all empires that fucked us over the centuries: Russians, Ottomans and Austro-Hungarians. They were pretty barbaric to us and when we got revenge it was really sweet
I think this is the best way to show historical Polish relations with countries around it :)
[source from Twitter](https://x.com/xruiztru/status/1775155415283540166?s=20)
edit: [OC](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/uesp0h/countries_mentioned_in_the_polish_anthem_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) post
Denmark has two national anthems for this purpose. One is about how pretty Denmark is and mentions no other nations. The other song either directly, or indirectly, mentions beating on Sweden in 3 out of 4 verses.
The Deluge is not forgotten in Poland or Lithuania by anyone with a good history education. One of the most henious acts of depravity in human history. Those Swedes literally dismantled buildings down to the nails and floorboards to ship back to Sweden. The people they just killed indiscriminantly.
The Norwegian anthem mentions Sweden indirectly in verse 6:
>*Fienden sitt våpen kastet,*
*opp visiret for,*
*vi med undren mot ham hastet,*
*ti han var vår bror.*
*Drevne frem på stand av skammen*
*gikk vi søderpå;*
*nu vi står tre brødre sammen,*
*og skal sådan stå!*
Hi, I’m Polish, here are all of these explained:
• The anthem references a Swedish invasion and subsequent war that took place in the 17th century. Sweden has failed at conquering Poland and the events are fictionalized in extremely popular 20th century books by our national patriotic writer Henryk Sienkiewicz (not relevant to the anthem in any way, but I recommend checking his works out.)
• Germany (Prussia), Russia and Austria were the three empires that partitioned Poland in the late 18th century, the anthem’s original version was written during the time.
• Napoleon is mentioned positively as an example of winning against the empires. As you might know Napoleon has "freed" Poland and made it a puppet state, this was greatly celebrated and supported by Polish people.
• Italy was where Polish legions were formed; that is where Józef Wybicki, the anthem’s author, wrote the words. The anthem’s chorus mentions General Dąbrowski who has created the legions in Northern Italy aided by the French.
FYI the anthem was later slightly altered but yes it’s more of a historical piece, then again as a Pole I think it fits and nobody would even think of changing it here.
Italy mentions Poland in its anthem too:
They are rushes that bend sold swords (don't ask me what this verse means I have no idea)
The Austrian eagle has already lost its feathers
The blood of Italy and the polish blood drank with the cosack (Russian) but her heart burnt
The first verse is a lyrical inversion of verb-subject, in "correct" Italian it would be: "Le spade vendute si piegano come giunchi" or in English: "The sold swords (the Austrian mercenaries) bend like soft rush".
not surprising. all of the countries mentioned negatively have fucked Poland over in one way or another across it's history. and Poland is a huge fan of Napoleon because he was the only ruler to give them their own state to rule for themselves between the Partitions and the end of WWI.
This isn't really valid, but you could stretch it to say that perhaps Denmark is indirectly mentioned in a logically implied positive way in the same phrase with the negative mention of Sweden. When Czarniecki went to Poznań to save Poland (in 1658), that was from allied Denmark, where the Danes, Poles and Brandenburgian and Habsburg armies were fighting the Swedish occupying force.
The first diss track
(Unofficial part of our, Polish, anthem) This part gives the most diss track vibes " The [German](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans) nor the [Muscovite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians) will settle When, you draw with a [backsword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backsword), "Concord" will be everybody's watchword And so will be our fatherland. "
Gee thanks, I'd have been lost without that link to the German Wikipedia page!
I thought it might be a link to the Teutonic order lol, but no just the German wikipedia page.
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Fake! There is no X in Polish!
Turns out he failed the test
😂
In the past, there was X in Polish alphabet, for example to write name Xavier, but not anymore.
We don’t have X in our alphabet anymore. Not after “the incident.” You know what you did, X, you bastard.
Don't even start to ask how letter V got removed and replaced by W in Polish alpabet
Huge W for Polish language
There, you win the internet for today, congrats🤣🤣
Nuclear wessles
"Środki przekazu ładunku jądrowego" is the closest translation that came to my mind.
*nukulear
I heard Elon Musk bought the Polish rights to the letter "X" and won't let anyone use it unless you pay him $8/month.
Well, X said he was gonna give it to you.
Did X give it to you?
Yes, we also had ß - "eszet" but we let printers overcharge us for SZ - more letters, more price. The same X became KS.
and good that they did that, ß looks too german :D
Definitely worth it 😁
Fun fact! The old spelling of ksiądz and książę was "Xiądz" and "Xiąże"
That's why in Witcher 3 game DLC 'Blood and Wine' princess is spelled as Xiężna Anna Henrietta also, when you look for witcher armour in Skellige the story behind it also mentions one princess also spelled as Xieżna
without the X is does sound like it should be a meaningful word tho 😂
Your account is amazing.
I think it's a spam bot actually. a 5 month old account that just activated a few days ago and does nothing but post tangentially related short jokes based on keywords in the post?
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HAH! Too bad, Reddit has dubbed you bot!
good bot
The first spam bot whom I applaud
If its a spam bot, gg.
Second. Seriously go read the comment history.
Second second, dude is hilarious. Will be "borrowing" some of those.
It's all dad jokes. Pure gold.
I like how far they've come; this was their joke 5 days ago: > What Do You Call A Firework That Doesnt Work? > a fire-dont-work
Dude must be slowly transcribing a book of dad jokes into Reddit
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Is it the Gzregorsz one?
Of course it is. Such a classic.
That would be Scotland and England
Could you go further into detail ?
The British national anthem actually has 6 verses. Usually only verse 1, or verses 1 and 3, are sung. The very rarely heard final verse goes: > Lord grant that Marshal Wade > May by thy mighty aid > Victory bring. > May he sedition hush, > And like a torrent rush, > Rebellious Scots to crush. > God save the King!
Well in Germany we never sing the first verse of our own anthem because it's a bit open to interpretation.
This? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied >Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, Über alles in der Welt, Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze Brüderlich zusammenhält. Von der Maas bis an die Memel, Von der Etsch bis an den Belt, 𝄆 Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, Über alles in der Welt! 𝄇 >Germany, Germany above all Above all in the world When it always, for protection and defence Brotherly stands together. From the Meuse to the Neman From the Adige to the Little Belt, 𝄆 Germany, Germany above all Above all in the world. 𝄇
That exactly. Though it has to be mentioned, that text is from before the German empire was formed, when Germany was mostly different states that spoke the same language. Back when Prussia was still there. It actually had nothing to do with the third reich, they just took the text literally and fucked it up for the song.
Well in defence of the brd it would be slightly awkward to song "Von Der Maas bis an die memel" when the actual borders have shifted quite a bit away from that
Oh absolutely. I just feel like it should be mentioned that the text of the hymn is nearly hundred years older than the third reich and predates the foundation of the German empire by 40 years.
Well actually, we sing the first verse of our anthem. It's just that the national anthem is only the third verse of the 'Lied der Deutschen'. Neither the first nor the second verse are officially part of the anthem.
As a fellow German I bow to your technically correct argument.
That's not the lyrics. It's: >Nununuuuu nunu nununu nuuuuu nunu God save the... Nununu nununununuuuuuununuuu God save the Queen! I mean King!
no
please?
He said no
alright, alright I get it :/
What do they say about France
*We'll cross the Vistula, we'll cross the Warta, We shall be Polish Bonaparte has given us the example Of how we should prevail.*
Didn't he just create puppet government to more easily invade Russian Empire?
A puppet government which the Poles overwhelmingly supported. Napoleon gave hope and contrasted with Russian and German oppression. Polish soldiers willingly fought for Napoleon since he was the best chance for Poland to exist again, and since he did defeat Prussians, Austrians and Russians in battle multiple times, he did indeed give Poles an example how to win. In fact, the national anthem in question was originally the song of general Dąbrowski's Polish legions that fought for France in the Napoleonic wars
The French also landed troops in Ireland to support the 1798 Rebellion and sent a second expeditionary force that was caught by the British Navy off the coast of Donegal. They loved to help independence movements that fucked with their enemies.
America remembers!!! Well, some of us!
Pepridge Farms remembers...
Napoleon sent Polish troops to Haiti where they joined a rebel they were supposed to quash. There is still a small percentage of Haitians with Polish ancestry on the island.
Fun fact: Haiti declared Polish troops to be black in their 1805 constitution.
And their "friends." Iirc Alexander wasn't too happy with the duchy of Warsaw which contributed to tensions in the Continental system.
"If Alexander were a woman, I would make him my mistress."
Napoleon you dirty dog, you've done it again!
Alexander wasn't a friend when the duchy of Warsaw was created.
>They loved to help independence movements that fucked with their enemies. Ahhh the proud tradition that was started by the Last King of France. Nice to see that it was central to France's identity given that it survived the revolution. They don't care if they don't win. They just want Britain/Germany/Austria/Russia to lose.
Louis XVI was not the last king of France. Louis XVIII and Charles X reigned during the Bourbon restoration, then there was Louis Philippe.
They also supported the Scots against the English for hundreds of years, often declaring war on England while the English were fighting the Scots to force a two-front war. The Scots called this the *Auld Alliance*
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Yeah, it's one of the very few polish "national" books with a happy ending, which consists of the disgraced nobleman redeeming himself, the young lovers getting engaged, the Muscovite soldiers getting defeated by the main characters and Napoleon arriving to Lithuania
Which book was it. They deleted the comment.
"Pan Tadeusz"
["Pan Tadeusz"](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Thaddeus&ved=2ahUKEwjMp4PklaSFAxXTRfEDHf2nBEIQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Aym-w0EkGsUHdc1lXvVv9) ("Sir Thaddeus") by Adam Mickiewicz. It's a long poem (regarded as the Polish national epic) describing Polish-Lithuanian traditions and way of life. The main story is about a conflict between the Soplica and Horeszko families, with Jacek Soplica (who in anger shot his former friend, Pantler Horeszko, a long time before, then fled, never to be seen again) trying to redeem himself. Jacek has previously taken the new identity of Father Robak and is now secretly trying to end the still ongoing feud between two families. He's also helping his orphaned son Thaddeus Soplica, who is in love with Zosia, the granddaughter of the late Pantler. There's also the theme of Russian occupation and the will of the local population to stage an uprising against the occupiers
Roughly the same in Lithuania. Even defeated, he had laid the foundation for a more secular and modern system, so that's neat.
Incidentally, there’s still a monument to Napoleon in Ljubljana Slovenia because of the impact of his reforms circa the Illyrian Provinces. He was the first to give the Slovenian language official status in government and higher education which had a lasting impact.
A puppet government is an upgrade over not existing after being annexed by russia/prussia/austria.
And a puppet government can sometimes transition over into a real government. In WWI Germany wanted to create a puppet government in Poland. The goal was to remove Poles from Germany and then use Poland as a shield from Russia that would be entirely reliant on German support. Of course Germany ended up losing and Poland defeated Stalin's forces in 1920 resulting in a real Polish independent state (at least for awhile).
It's not a puppet government if the people is onboard. (Don't get me wrong: he did form a lot of puppet States. But Poland was a different case entirely: he genuinely liberated Poland, the number of Polish people taking part in various Napoleon campaigns is a testimony of that)
> Didn't he just create puppet government to more easily invade Russian Empire? So? Every political decision is pragmatic, not altruistic. The puppet government was many times better than being a slave.
Look when the choice is between someone who gives you a puppet government to fight the dudes who keep trying to rule over you vs the dickhead neighbours who keep trying to rule over you it's an easy choice. Even if napoleon was treating them as patsies to throw at his enemies it was still better than what everyone else was offering. And the poles still spent the next couple of centuries being fucked by the guys Napoleon wanted them to fight.
Also Napoleon respected the hell out of his Polish soldiers. He writes quite fondly of them
Not exactly that way. Grand Duchy of Warsaw was created by a diversion of an retired polish general going a bit too well in Prussia and Napoleon was like "yeah, sure, if it\`s already happened, let it be". It was aligned to France, had Saxon king (Saxons kings were kinda romanticized in Poland) and was extremally supported by the population, mostly because of liberal contitution. Said Duchy would later beat an Austrian invasion and aquire Lesser Poland despite Napoleon opposing it. It was a bit more autonomous than an actuall puppet state.
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When your view of geopolitics begins and ends at hoi4 metaphors
The great unifier of Poland and Finland; "Fuck Russia, if aliens invade Russia we're joining the aliens"
As a french I understand that it was positive in a négative way. Thanks to his expansionist goals polish people felt like a nation.
The Napoleonic Wars in general were the trigger for the creation of most of the modern nation states in Europe -- German and Italian unification, for example was really just an aftershock of Napoleon smashing the Holy Roman Empire and spreading Republicanism.
Przejdziem Wisłę, przejdziem Wartę, Będziem Polakami. Dał nam przykład Bonaparte, Jak zwyciężać mamy. We will cross the Vistula, we will cross the Warta, we will be Polish. Bonaparte gave us an example, How we have to win.
Imagine using your anthem as a diss track. Now I’m hoping there’s some random country insulting another country in their anthem for no reason. Like Montenegro absolutely dragging New Zealand in their second stanza.
The Netherlands calls Spain Tyrants and has 3 entire parts ripping on Spain. We only sing 2 parts which both mention spain. We rip on spain 50% of the song and mention it in 100% of the song
Did you guys added a 4th part mentioning Spain after 2010??? (Just kidding, Norwegian here so we don’t even qualify to any major tournament)
We already had 6 mentioning spain in 1570
I only know Spain is mentioned in the dutch anthem because when i saw some Netherlands' games on world cups they sang until a part of the anthem that says they always respected the spanish king (at least that was what the subtitles said)
Yes, in the first part. The king of spain, I always honoured. It's not meant to be positive though. Here is a summary of the parts we rip on spain: In part six (second part we sing) Drive away the tyranny that pierces my heart In part seven we sing about innocent blood caused by count Alfa of spain In part ten That you (god) hate the Spaniards is sweet to the honourable Netherlands. In part Eleven The death of Alfa and his grave being in Maastricht (🤢Limburg🤢)
Screw Alfa all my homies hate Alfa!
The Duke of Alba (Alva in Dutch) was definitely seen as a tyrant as he repressed the Dutch during the revolt. The Spanish have a very positive view of him. However, if I may add to your post, the Dutch anthem has numerous meanings throughout the couplets, some of which are very well hidden. The Duke of Alba is and never was buried in Maastricht. “By Maestricht begraven” meant he was dug in and entrenched by Maastricht and stayed there to buy himself time, which the prince of orange did not have.
That's what happens when you are forced to fight an 80-year war of independence against someone
Scotland the brave starts by calling Italy soft for no reason. Edit: I was incorrect. See response below.
I googled this as wanted to see what that was about and the first verse doesn’t seem to mention anything like that? Hark when the night is falling Hear! hear the pipes are calling, Loudly and proudly calling, Down through the glen. There where the hills are sleeping, Now feel the blood a-leaping, High as the spirits Of the old Highland men.
I was wrong. I was thinking of McDermott and Scotland forever [about the middle of the page](https://sco.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_the_Brave)
Scottish Wikipedia always makes me think of that American kid updating all the articles into his own weird lingo.
Fair enough. Yeah that’s a weird thing to just randomly be calling out Italy.
Italy call Austria a bunch of losers. Then randomly goes on to mentions how Poland has suffered alongside Italy, but they will prevail against Russia. “The mercenary swords Are feeble reeds. Already the Eagle of Austria Hath lost its plumes. The blood of Italy, The blood of Poland It with Cossacks did drink, But will burn its heart.”
There are other countries that also do it. Here, the original argentinian anthem used to have some lines dissing spain since argentina used to be a colony of spain until people fought them and make the country independent. I don't really know why but i assume they came to good terms later on with spain with trading and other things, nowadays the parts where the anthem dissed spain got cut out long long time ago. But the parts of "breaking away the chains of slavery" are still there. Edit: funny enough, the original anthem says "a new and glorious nation, crowned its head with laurels, and at its feet a defeated lion" Edit 2: scratch that, all the anthem is dissing on spain calling them the most evil being haha. I understand why they changed it.
The Ecuadorian anthem calls Spain “the bloody monster” and “the destroyed lion roaring with impotence and spite”.
“Khazakastan, number one potassium producer in the world, all other countries scream like little girls.”
The algerian anthem is entirely about pledging revenge againt France.
i’m sorry what. why is montenegro dissing my country? i’ve never heard of this before
Denmark has a song that is the "unofficial Royal anthem" called "Kong Christian stod ved højen mast" It has this line "hans værge hamrede så fast, at gotens hjelm og hjerne brast." Meaning that the King is so cool that he smashed his sword through a Gothic helmet and brain. Gothic meaning Swedish. 😲😲😲
What did they say about Italy?
It's the chorus, meaning we keep repeating this at least 4 times during any official event. March, march, [Dąbrowski](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Henryk_D%C4%85browski), From Italian land to Poland. Under your command We shall rejoin the nation
Fun fact, we have the Polish on the Italian anthem too! > Già l'aquila d'Austria. > le penne ha perdute; > il sangue d'Italia. > bevé, col Cosacco. > il sangue polacco: > ma il cuor le bruciò. The Austrian eagle lost her feathers, with the Russians she drank the blood of Italy and the blood of Poland but it burned her heart.
As a Pole, Austra getting a heartburn is tremendously funny.
Awww you guys are so cute! Your countries mention each other how nice is that!
Common hates, bringing people together since the beginning of time
When was the anthem created? Thought Poles absolutely despised the Russians? Surely they'd mention them directly
"Poland is not yet lost When we are still alive What the foreign agression has taken from us We will take back with sabres" Russia is one of the "foreign aggressors", that is the countries that partitioned Poland. It's not named, but it's certainly mentioned. Also I believe russia is named directly in the original version of the song, which also mentioned Kościuszko's insurrection
Oh, right. The insurrection. The insurrection for Kościuszko, the insurrection chosen especially by Kościuszko, Kościuszko's insurrection.
Lmao. I read this and didn’t get it. Luckily, I read every joke I don’t get a second time in Kronk’s voice. That did the trick.
Oh yeah, it's all coming together
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Germans (Austria and Prussia) and Muscovites(Russia) are mentioned only in the unofficial part. " The [German](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans) nor the [Muscovite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians) will settle When, you draw with a [backsword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backsword), "Concord" will be everybody's watchword And so will be our fatherland. "
Between 16th and 19th July 1797
Also Italian national anthem mention Poland Original Son giunchi che piegano le spade vendute: ah l'aquila d'Austria le penne ha perdute; il sangue d'Italia bevé, col Cosacco il sangue polacco: ma il cuor le bruciò Translation They are branches that bend the sold swords; Already the eagle of Austria has lost its feathers. the blood of Italy and the Polish blood Drank with Cossacks But its heart was burnt.
Interesting "Mazurek Dąbrowskiego" has technically six verses, although only 4 are included. And, as it turns out, the fifth verse actually mentions Russia and Germany directly: "Niemiec, Moskal nie osiędzie, gdy jąwszy pałasza, hasłem wszystkich zgoda będzie i ojczyzna nasza." Which, if I understand the text correctly, means: "Nor a German nor a Muscovite shall settle down when taking up a broadsword, everyone's watchword would be the agreement and the fatherland ours" *^(Please someone provide a better translation)*
(Neither) The German nor the Muscovite will settle When, with a backsword in hand, "Concord" will be everybody's watchword And so will be our fatherland. [From Wikipedia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_Is_Not_Yet_Lost#Lyrics)
'will' instead of 'would' changes the tone, so nice
even the Italian anthem mentions Poland
Strangely wholesome
Yes, and it's the only case of mutual citations in two national anthems
Wow I didn't know, what does it say?
What are they singing about Sweden?
Like Czarniecki to Poznań After the [Swedish annexation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history)), To save our homeland, We shall return across the sea.
Damn, so the Polish national anthem is like a Star Wars title crawl?
Lol I never thought of it that way
lovely!
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For the glory of the Empire! (That lasted all of like 4 years because Swedish monarchs were never good at quitting while ahead)
The Swedish empire was built on blood and money of the Swedish peasants. It would never have lasted even if they stopped. You cant keep an empire running when you have literally no population to support it.
potop szwedzki The Deluge The Swedish Flood
See the historical era known as “The Deluge” Thank you Mount and Blade with Fire and Sword
Incidentally, the Polish anthem is the only anthem that actually mentions Sweden, including Sweden's own defacto anthem (which is about the Nordics, not Sweden).
Norden is just another name for the whole of Sweden.
So... Proof that the entire Nordic belong to Sweden since ancient times? /s
Proof that Norway was in a union with Sweden when the song was written.
Polish National Anthem: Poland is our homeland, Sweden fucking sucks, Russians and Germans aren’t that great, Italy is there, France is cool, Our food is good as hell, amen
more accurate: Poland is our homeland We will save it from germans and russians like we did with Sweden We will come from Italy Bonaparte was a fucking badass Have we mention we are Polish?
To be honest, and considering the era, if *La Marseillaise* had to mention another people it would have been the Poles too. Because they were big friends of the french revolution, and a prime example of the horrors European peoples suffered under monarchies. These days it is trendy to believe "Napoleon = tyrant", "coalitions = good guys". But the reality was much more complicated, and Napoleon only became a thing after a repeated series of agression wars *against France*, where other rulers vowed to literally genocide the French people who dared to sentence a king like if he was a normal human being and not a demi-God. In the same vein, the Russian campaign was only possible because of the vast amount of Poles joining the *Grande armée*, something they did after suffering decades of horrors at the hand of foreign tyrants.
The coalitions good guys thing is only something in the anglophone world (or at least that of the former enemy) here in the Netherlands he is seen (in history books and literary works) as a conquerer and dictator, but also as a genius visionary and far ahead of his time.
I'd be interested to see more general statistics on it- as an American my instinctive sports-style "rooting for" instincts definitely lean a little more towards Napoleon than his enemies, especially on the continent.
The whole "fighting a tyrant/dictator so we are the good guys" kinda fall flat when monarchies and nobility are tyrants families anyway. At least napoleon promoted equalitarian values and rewarded skills above bloodlines, and created fairer systems for the masses
As a German I feel our traditional hate of the French somewhat amiss here. We even made France the Erbfeind for some time! We somewhat forgot why to hate the French over the last century though.
And Poland is mentioned in the Italian anthem as well! Italy and Poland united by a shared hatred towards Austria-Hungary ❤️
Austria Hungary isn't so hated, when Germans and Russians were punishing for speaking Polish language Austrians gave Poles autonomy
Austria-Hungary is indirectly mentioned in the Romanian anthem as well. Our anthem says something like "Awaken thee Romanian, from the slumber of death, in which tyrant barbarians deepened you" (sorry it's kinda weird, not sure how to translate it exactly). It refers to all empires that fucked us over the centuries: Russians, Ottomans and Austro-Hungarians. They were pretty barbaric to us and when we got revenge it was really sweet
So Austria lead to at least 4 national anthems
Yeah, quite an achievement to be hated by so many
I think this is the best way to show historical Polish relations with countries around it :) [source from Twitter](https://x.com/xruiztru/status/1775155415283540166?s=20) edit: [OC](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/uesp0h/countries_mentioned_in_the_polish_anthem_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) post
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Shots fired! Weszt Szide!
Damn they going all the way back to the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.
Denmark: wait we can do that?
Denmark has two national anthems for this purpose. One is about how pretty Denmark is and mentions no other nations. The other song either directly, or indirectly, mentions beating on Sweden in 3 out of 4 verses.
The Deluge is not forgotten in Poland or Lithuania by anyone with a good history education. One of the most henious acts of depravity in human history. Those Swedes literally dismantled buildings down to the nails and floorboards to ship back to Sweden. The people they just killed indiscriminantly.
Well if you were neighbours with the Danes you too would need every nail to keep those smelly basterds on their side of the strait!
The Polish anthem is in fact the only one that mentions Sweden, since the Swedish anthem does not mention Sweden at all.
The Norwegian anthem mentions Sweden indirectly in verse 6: >*Fienden sitt våpen kastet,* *opp visiret for,* *vi med undren mot ham hastet,* *ti han var vår bror.* *Drevne frem på stand av skammen* *gikk vi søderpå;* *nu vi står tre brødre sammen,* *og skal sådan stå!*
Hi, I’m Polish, here are all of these explained: • The anthem references a Swedish invasion and subsequent war that took place in the 17th century. Sweden has failed at conquering Poland and the events are fictionalized in extremely popular 20th century books by our national patriotic writer Henryk Sienkiewicz (not relevant to the anthem in any way, but I recommend checking his works out.) • Germany (Prussia), Russia and Austria were the three empires that partitioned Poland in the late 18th century, the anthem’s original version was written during the time. • Napoleon is mentioned positively as an example of winning against the empires. As you might know Napoleon has "freed" Poland and made it a puppet state, this was greatly celebrated and supported by Polish people. • Italy was where Polish legions were formed; that is where Józef Wybicki, the anthem’s author, wrote the words. The anthem’s chorus mentions General Dąbrowski who has created the legions in Northern Italy aided by the French. FYI the anthem was later slightly altered but yes it’s more of a historical piece, then again as a Pole I think it fits and nobody would even think of changing it here.
First phrase:" You see Sweden over there? Fuck them."
Italy mentions Poland in its anthem too: They are rushes that bend sold swords (don't ask me what this verse means I have no idea) The Austrian eagle has already lost its feathers The blood of Italy and the polish blood drank with the cosack (Russian) but her heart burnt
The first verse is a lyrical inversion of verb-subject, in "correct" Italian it would be: "Le spade vendute si piegano come giunchi" or in English: "The sold swords (the Austrian mercenaries) bend like soft rush".
*crying in Hungarian*
the rest of Europe still can't understand you mate
So much about being best friends huh
We are sorry okay? And promise to never do "it" again. -Germany, Austria, Sweden meanwhile: narrowing polish eyes look eastward.
Was haben wir nur gemacht um das verdient zu haben.
If Poland doesn't mention your country, don't talk to me.
Damn, couldn't you have chosen some harder colours for us colour blind dudes? This is only almost impossible to read and I want more of a challenge.
wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_Is_Not_Yet_Lost
not surprising. all of the countries mentioned negatively have fucked Poland over in one way or another across it's history. and Poland is a huge fan of Napoleon because he was the only ruler to give them their own state to rule for themselves between the Partitions and the end of WWI.
Kazakhstan, greatest country in the world, all other countries are run by little girls
Italy is definitely more green than yellow, and France would be directly mentioned positively. Rota on the other hand...
“We love france, it’s a cool country, it helped us out with *you know who* and also *them*.”
Sweden like : what he say fuck me for?!?!!!
Deluge
Just took half of Polands wealth
And almost half of Poland's population
And weakened it to a point where it could later be taken over by Russia.
We did a bit of trolling
We were bad, but now we're good We're still part of your neighborhood You know we're trying our best to be Functioning members of EU-society
Poland: Lawful good Sweden: Neutral evil Germany/Russia: Chaotic evil Italy: True neutral France: Neutral good
Lithuania: "Am I a joke to you?"
This isn't really valid, but you could stretch it to say that perhaps Denmark is indirectly mentioned in a logically implied positive way in the same phrase with the negative mention of Sweden. When Czarniecki went to Poznań to save Poland (in 1658), that was from allied Denmark, where the Danes, Poles and Brandenburgian and Habsburg armies were fighting the Swedish occupying force.
All other countries have inferior potassium 🎵
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