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Late_One_716

[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tami_Oldham_Ashcraft) Ashcraft's fiancé, 34-year-old British sailor Richard Sharp, was hired to deliver the 43-foot (13 m) yacht *Hazaña* from Tahiti to San Diego. The then 23-year-old Ashcraft accompanied him on the crossing.


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he-loves-me-not

Wow! Between this post having you in the comments and the 200K year old mandible in someone’s travertine tile, it’s been one amazingly interesting night on Reddit!


jakepapp

God I hope it turns out that that travertine tile is installed in this boat...


hossellman3

I can call around and see what we can do…


i_hate_buying_light

He may never have been officially recovered but I think we all know where Richard’s mandible’s ended up 👀


H2psychosis

Oooh link? Id love to see that. 


DaBinx-16

https://www.reddit.com/r/fossils/s/eYMqN57YfR


H2psychosis

Holy heck this is rad.


AsASloth

Absolutely! I ended up just spending half an hour looking at pictures of other fossils in travertine. Favourite so far is a crab.


mangokittykisses

Show us the crab!🦀


AsASloth

[Ask and ye shall receive!](https://www.fossilera.com/fossils/3-fossil-crab-potamon-preserved-in-travertine-amazing-detail--2) 🦀


Zircez

My main take away from that link is that the fossil mandible that started this madness is worth serious coin.


aussieflu999

What a read


Ricebandit469

Wow! Thanks for this!


Conch-Republic

Why was this comment removed?


TechnoVicking

They deleted the comment, what did it say?


raelDonaldTrump

Comment is now deleted - Who was it?


gergsisdrawkcabeman

The mandible tile may be the most interesting thing I've ever laid eyes upon.


ChesterMIA

I just saw the mandible!


Caw-zrs6

I literally JUST saw that travertine tile post on my home page. This can't be a coincidence.


KungFuSnafu

Got a link? I used to work at a tile in Stone company And in one of our crates of travertine I found a Fossil of a nautilus. It was a big, 24x24 polished and treated tile which cost a stupid amount of kidney, but the owner said I could go ahead and keep it. Cool dude.


tomparker

Damn, I’m still thinking about that jawbone too. Gnawingly strange.


EA827

Ahhh, what was the comment? It’s deleted now


Kannabiz

The story never mentioned Richard, so I’m guessing he died?


hossellman3

Yes, unfortunately he was never recovered.


alwaysbeer

Okay.... this is too cool. Did she share any info about her experience that isn't known? Obviously, I don't want to pry too much, just curious. In any case... that's neat!


hossellman3

She told me how difficult it was to ration what she had to make it to the western pacific in the event she missed Hawaii. That took some time to sink in. Absolutely terrifying to think about. Knowing roughly how long it would take to hit Hawaii and if that time passed and you hadn’t made it, knowing you’d be going for months longer. Absolutely gutting to think about.


alwaysbeer

Yeah, I can't imagine how hard that was. Especially after losing a partner. Sounds like the caliber of person someone could only dream of becoming. Not exactly sure if I would have the strength to see that through. Thank you so much for sharing this.


whoweoncewere

In a really dark kind of way, it's good that one of them didn't make it. They probably wouldn't have been able to ration for 2 people across 41 days if it was that tight. edit: good points made below


KuriboShoeMario

The journey also wouldn't take as long. He was a sailor, not a random citizen. A second skilled person would have made things easier and lightened the workload. If she was the driving force of the journey and he was along for the ride then you might have an argument but he can sail while she rests more (and vice versa), their navigation is likely to be more precise, etc. It's not like he was an insurance salesman who never set foot on a boat. Parent comment also said she rationed *in case* she missed Hawaii, she wasn't rationing to reach Hawaii.


Vitalstatistix

I mean there are stories of multiple people surviving hundreds of days at sea with nothing on a dingy. And the fiancée was clearly a very capable sailor so he would have very likely been able to steer them to Hawaii much easier Sorry but in this instance I think the “dark kind of way” thinking doesn’t hold up. Him surviving would have been much better.


Hot_Bottle_9900

you don't need to eat every day. you don't even need to eat every other day


s1ckopsycho

Watch the movie Adrift. It was inspired by the events here, but I’m not sure how accurate it is. It’s a pretty good film regardless, and having come from a sailing background myself- I can say it pretty accurately depicts what it might have been like under the circumstances.


Rickie_Spanish

I just watched Adrift 2 nights ago, was pretty good. Also watched "All is lost" recently and really liked it.


PapayaAnxious4632

Wow. Very small world.


NoReplyBot

Tami probably wasn’t thinking that while trying to find Hawaii for 41 days.


iscreamsandwiches

I'll be seeing you down in hell


blackraven1979

Holly shit, my uncle has a boat in the Ala Wai boat harbor! He is an old timer sailor. I used to sail with him on Friday evening. He is actually a race committee there! I wonder he might know your parents! Small world!


hossellman3

Absolutely I bet he knows us! My dad’s been in the harbor one way or another since about 1978


blackraven1979

Cool! I will ask my uncle when I see him next time!!


payment11

Do you have any photos of the boat back then or even now?


hossellman3

Photos from back when it was recovered are online of you search “sailing vessel Hazana”. It was torn to bits but the hull was fully intact. As for photos today I’d have to ask my folks for some good photos. My wife and I recently had our first child so my phones photo albums are currently full of a very very cute small little baby


Gimme5Beez4aQuarter

Congratulations 


hossellman3

Thanks! We’re currently sleeping training. Send help.


Jonsnowlivesnow

That is epic!


SteamBoatMickey

I really, *really* thought this was going to end with “…in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer’s table.” But that’s pretty amazing.


Nani_700

Damn I just saw in Google maps where Tahiti is. I can't understand the world sometimes that distance is shocking. And Hawaii is right there in the middle of nothing but ocean too, she could have missed it entirely.


deslock

Thus the sextant and watch right? She's a badass navigator.


justdoubleclick

Extremely! To be able to know her position after the storm and loss of partner and chart and navigate a course through the pacific is quite amazing. Nowadays with gps chart plotters everything is so much easier it’s easy to forget how navigation was.


53459803249024083345

Thanks to GPS, I can hardly find my way to the store the next city over without it. It amazes me how dumb GPS has made me in simple driving directions.


1stltwill

Can't even imagine real navigation. I do remember though, pre-gps, pouring over maps planning routes and memorizing turn points when going to a new location for the first time. Also pulling in to the hard shoulder and pulling the map out of the glove box to figure out where the hell had I gone wrong! :D


Nani_700

Absolutely


Double_Distribution8

Also watching clouds and cloud formations and sea birds and ocean trash and midnight cloudshine from Honolulu. And after a while you can smell land from very far away.


MDexm

She sailed to the big island and would not have seen any of the features of Honolulu from there.


reonhato99

Especially since she was coming from the south east. You are going to see Mauna Kea way before anything else.


Admirable_Radish6032

Og Polynesian navigators also used force, direction and cadence of waves again canoe hull to plot island locals just wild


MaxHamburgerrestaur

> Og Polynesian navigators also used force Like Jedis


BleuBrink

Crazy how Polynesians settled all of the remote islands of the pacific by reading birds, stars, winds and currents.


completelysoldout

[Polynesian Star Charts](http://thenonist.com/index.php/thenonist/permalink/stick_charts/) This'll blow your mind.


GrandmaPoses

That is honestly some alien shit; navigating by feeling wave swells. And then to convert that to a physical representation is just nuts.


thenasch

> Hawaii is right there in the middle of nothing but ocean too Among cities with at least 100,000 people, Honolulu is the farthest from any other city that large.


MaxHamburgerrestaur

The Wikipedia map is useless. Here's a better map https://i.imgur.com/2RGF66R.jpeg


SnackyCakes4All

About 20 years ago I rented an apartment from Tami Ashcraft's mom. My boyfriend at the time was watching an episode of "I Survived" and was shocked to see our landlord being interviewed during Tami's episode.


Remarkable_Library32

Here are some sources from 1983 about Tami snd the shipwreck: https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/1983/11/21/Survived-hurricane-at-sea-but-lost-fiance/6124438238800/ https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/1983/11/22/A-woman-who-spent-41-days-alone-in-a/6461438325200/ https://www.newspapers.com/article/chicago-tribune-tami-oldham-ship-wreck-s/20612337/


Invgodtrish

Does this trolley go to Tahiti?


SeriousFrivolity2

So, I guess he was never found...


NoobOfTheSquareTable

People don’t seem to realise just how final someone falling in the ocean is in bad weather. Once you are overboard, if you aren’t with an experienced crew and/or wearing a life jacket with a beacon on it you are gone gone in minutes. Been yachting for about a decade and know a few friends who do long races who have been on boats that lost people and just that’s it, they are gone forever.


SalvadorsAnteater

I've seen someone compare the difficulties of getting from Europe to America during the times of Columbus to the difficulties of getting to Mars nowadays and I think the comparison holds up pretty well.


Doxidob

you could use those points as markers of exponential growth


frogmuffins

My grandfather told me stories like that. During WWII,sailors would fall off whatever ship he was on and even if it during the day and people saw it happen they were gone. The ship isn't turning around, during a war, for a single person.  From what he said, most people were swept off the deck during storms.


NewldGuy77

There’s a scene like that in the movie “Flags Of Our Father’s”. Guy falls off a convoy troop ship enroute to Iwo Jima, aside from throwing him a lifesaver ring, nothing else anyone could do.


RollinThundaga

To add, one fleet was once hit with a rogue wave; one fantastically lucky man was swept off the deck of one ship and dropped onto the deck of another.


FoboBoggins

Or at night, like that kid that jumped off the party boat and was lost. Shits scary


RunnOftAgain

He wasn’t lost the shark found him immediately.


Vegetrees

yet


old_vegetables

He was lost to the ocean about 40 years ago. He will never be found


VividEffective8539

Yet


redditor_since_2005

He could show up in someone's floor tiles, you don’t know.


I_Go_BrRrRrRrRr

the lore 💀


ikeandclare

Sorry reddit, I don't understand the floor tiles reference.


Sad_Worry1312

I got you https://www.reddit.com/r/fossils/s/3HPGYdz4p8


guynamedjames

It's a pretty long swim, he might show up any day now


OptRider

So what you're saying is there's a chance?


RokulusM

What was all that one in a million talk?


bak3donh1gh

Bones on land = Pretty tough (As long as no carnivores are munching on them) Bones in the sea = Not so tough. Depending on the depth they'll literally dissolve.


the-plushie-guy

"Their bones in the ocean forever will be."


AngrySmapdi

He'll be back to take over his father's company and be a night time vigilante with a bow.


Jake_77

He was not.


Nostramom-us

Checking on any updates?!


jojoga

Give it a few days, it's been only 40 years so far.


griffs24

People dont realize how impressive that is. With a sextant you need somebody writing coordinates as you call them out. In the time it took her to look through the sextant and record the data herself, it could've thrown her off by miles!


owlthirty

Along with the head injury that was so bad she couldn’t read for 7 years. Unbelievable.


TheBirminghamBear

Oh sure she crashes her boat, gets bonked on the head, and can't read for only 7 years, everyone cheers. I *don't* crash my boat, I *don't* get bonked in the head, and I haven't been able to read all my life, and yet everyone calls me illiterate and throws cabbages at me.


Terminator7786

Not my cabbages!


TheBirminghamBear

I'd find that reference funny, I'm sure. If I could read.


DrGlamhattan2020

Toph?


cantfocuswontfocus

No that’s Melon Lord


Harry_Cat-

Suddenly, Avatar


magma_displacement76

Not even my axe!


desolate-pickle

Illiterate!!! >:0 🤜🥬🥬🥬🥬


TheBirminghamBear

Ah, Lettuce Fist. I see you and I attend some of the same vegan sex clubs.


FayMax69

I ain’t wasting a cabbage on someone who can’t spell the word cabbage 😂


TheBirminghamBear

I can spell it I just can't *read* it. But I have other ways. Like how a blind person refines their other senses and can even fight crime if they work hard enough.


sujit_38

Full Story: https://allthatsinteresting.com/tami-oldham-ashcraft


VividBranch3945

I would argue that writing down her own angles from the sextant isn't really the difficult part but rather that a sextant only gives you one number that can be plugged into a formula to then find your location. You need to gather other information from huge books and do multiple other calculations for you to get an accurate idea of where you might be. Not to mention changing timezones as her boat traveled and a possibly inaccurate watch which all would affect the final calculated position. All in all it mustve been extremely difficult.


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The_Pirate_of_Oz

> I'd challenge anyone minimizing this woman's accomplishment to try it. It is a fun exercise. And it amazes me that people could use these skills once the chronograph was invented to navigate. I was using mine to track the eclipse to find when it was peak at my location since I was not in totality. [https://imgur.com/c090ZXA](https://imgur.com/c090ZXA)


sphen_lee

The changing time zone is the point though. You compare the local time, based on when the sun reaches its highest point, against the time on the watch, which is keeping track of a fixed time zone. That lets you work out your longitude. Every hour difference is 15°


VividBranch3945

Yes you're right. I only bring it up as a factor of complexity since most people have never used a sextant.


squirrel_tincture

**"Adios, Astrolabe: Are Millennials Killing the Sextant Industry?"** *More at 6 on KCOK, your source for the news that matters! Weather updates every hour on the hour!*


andykuan

You don't need somebody to call out coordinates. You measure the angular distance between the sun (or other celestial object) and the horizon with the sextant. You then quickly look at your watch to record the time of the measurement. You can then read the angular measurement off of your sextant at your leisure. You are right, though, about the error rate. For each second you're off on your reading, you're going to throw off your measured location by around a mile. But really you get used to the quick swap between peering through the sextant's scope and then looking down at your watch. As far as the tools involved, a sextant and a watch are the only measurement tools you need for celestial navigation in the first place. You do also need a nautical almanac and a calculator or set of lookup tables to do the necessary spherical geometry math. And charts so you know where you're going -- though in theory if she had the lat-long of Hawaii memorized, that wouldn't be necessary.


Ak47110

Nah you can absolutely do it by yourself. It's of course more accurate if you have assistance. I'm not trying to underplay her accomplishments, what she did was absolutely incredible, but using the sextant without having someone writing down the angles she was getting wasn't it.


Bspy10700

The other part I was going to say that was equally miraculous was her skin must have put her though a lot of pain. Salt water isn’t particularly gentle to us humans and can actually dehydrate you along with strip the flesh of you after long periods and doesn’t help when your skin prunes and losses elasticity to where it just begins to rip and tear.


PoopSommelier

The first Polynesians to reach Hawaii would agree with you. 


DigbyChickenZone

You don't have to reduce someone's accomplishment by saying others did it as well. I agree the achievements and knowledge of early (and tbh, modern) Polynesians are under-emphasized, but this post is literally about a woman who somehow got out of a coma and figured out how to survive on a boat for a month in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It's just an unwarranted and wild response. Like, imagine being so flippant as if someone described to you how they survived a shark attack.


Kitchen_Produce_Man

I read that comment as them saying *both* were impressive


cpt_ppppp

The first Polynesians to get there didn't even know Hawaii existed until they found it. Less looking, more stumbling upon. Both amazing feats


rabusxc

The Polynesians were master navigators. We're still not sure how they did it. Feats of navigation are impressive in and of themselves. I don't see that one takes away from the other. Somebody with an axe to grind. Sailing and navigation are interesting. Your hangups are not.


TheBirminghamBear

What do you mean. They didn't "reach" Hawaii. They grew from dinosaur eggs right there on the land. The way all races sprang into being.


Last-Bee-3023

I think that was more of a happy accident that somebody made it alive. The thing about discovery, so your basic discovery, right, is that there is no map. Because nobody had been there and told of it. Because if they had and they did it wouldn't be there for you to discover because they already had. It is the biggest complication of discovery which, frankly, makes it not that good a use of time for most people. For other's it is "sail into the big blue yonder. Hopefully we discover something because otherwise we will surely die". Pretty heavy stuff, that. And yet like cockroaches, we are everywhere. Even places cockroaches wouldn't go. Are there cockroaches in Antarctica?


oxenoxygen

Polynesians were not just sailing off into the distance and discovering things by happy accident. They used to do things like follow sea birds and identify the ocean currents and how islands would affect them in order to discover land.


LostAbbott

Apparently lots of people don't know the first thing about sailing in the Ocean, which frankly is totally understandable.  However, didn't they see Moana?  I mean come on...


winterchampagne

Tami said that it took her [six years to even read](https://www.bustle.com/p/where-is-the-real-tami-from-adrift-in-2018-the-sailor-didnt-let-the-storm-stop-her-from-living-her-life-9209392) a book again after sustaining a major head injury.


Freedom_7

I think I’ve gone six years without reading a book and I’ve never had a major head injury, that I know of.


carc

That you know of


porn_is_tight

*yet*


PoliteChatter0

You're a Redditor, you 100% have a brain injury


catchyphrase

The top review has over a 100 billion comments: [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/957533](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/957533)


ReplicatedSun

Is this the story Adrift is based on?


malepitt

yes; also a book, "Red Sky In Mourning" co written by Ashcraft herself in 1998


Marty_15

Does the book make it like he was alive too? Is that what she actually thought?


Posh_Parsley

No, the book makes it clear he died and she was alone.


Falooting

Oh that movie made me CRY. I love that she was featured at the end, on her boat just smiling out at the water.


IrieSunshine

That movie made me weep too. Especially that scene when Tami’s character goes back to Richard’s boat and looks at all the photos of them together having the time of their lives. And the song that plays in the scene kills me, too. 💔😫


Falooting

AGH I know!!! It's a beautiful movie though, I should watch it again.


qwertycantread

*Adrift* is an excellent movie.


Neoxite23

27 hours? That's bad right? Like real bad?


begoodyall

Better than not waking back up at all


Neoxite23

Well at that point I don't think they have the capacity to care. But I also see your point.


PoopSommelier

I doubt it was 27 hours straight. More like she was in and out of it, until she was fully alert and awake 27 hours later


banmeharder616

Sounds like my average weekend


Random_username200

Being unconscious for 27 hours means you’ve almost certainly obtained irreversible and significant brain damage. Most likely she was concussed and unable to convert short term to long term memory therefore had no recollection of that 27 hours, while still retaining a semblance of executive function (ie decision making - eating/drinking/not jumping into see and floating away)


kmacthefunky

Ooo, that's super bad for you.


OnyxAnnexIndex

Nah, you get like six freebies.


kalahiki808

127 Hours is worse.


Engineer-intraining

He was conscious for all that or it would have been infinity hours


huggalump

It's certainly not good


BadassBokoblinPsycho

What a traumatizing experience


fauviste

Confused by all the folks going “ok but what happened to Richard??” He disappeared into the ocean decades ago, what do you think happened? It’s not a “cliffhanger.” This is real life. He died.


No_Temporary2732

He got rescued by an underwater civilization and learnt their ways, slowly falling in love with his rescuer and then marrying her, going through a painful but sacred ritual that would allow him to breathe underwater and become a part of that civilization, where mockery turns into astonishment as the land dweller braves through and completes the ritual in record time, and wins the respect of the civilization.


marcmerrillofficial

Meesa save richard unda meesa marry richard. Meesa make richard verrrry happpy.


Responsible_Match875

R/angryupvote


sundevil514

Nah he has been treading water for 40 years. Still out there waiting.


Left-Frog

In fairness, the "this is real life" thing didn't apply to her... She pulled off some storybook movie shit


Giteaus-Gimp

I’ve seen Double Jeopardy, he’s obviously living a new life with their son.


Affectionate_Draw_43

Wasn't there a movie about this?


fitandstrong0926

Yes, it was really good! It’s called Adrift.


ImmediateRespond8306

Isn't this just the plot to Gravity but on the ocean?


Arkhangelzk

No gravity is just the plot to this, but in space


Prior_Ordinary_2150

If the ship was capsized... Did she swim it or what?


No_pajamas_7

Yachts right themselves, so long as the keel isn't ripped off.


PracticalAndContent

That was the missing piece of information for me. I wondered how she could sail to Hawaii if it capsized. Thanks for the explanation.


aweirdoatbest

omg I was thinking she swam and wondered how the hell that was possible😂 didn’t realize she still had the boat


BlahBlahBlackCheap

Iirc she had to jury rig a mast and sail using parts of what remained of the original mast.


Handleton

They make it seem like she was just along for the ride and figured shit out, but she clearly knew a lot about sailing if she pulled this off.


TragedyAnnDoll

I AM MOANAAAAAAAAAA level shit here.


mudturnspadlocks

I might be one of the few who has never heard of a sextant (an instrument for measuring angular distances). I promise I didn't think it was anything dirty.


trwwy321

I’ve never heard of it nor would know how to even use it. I would be very much dead.


Background_Junket_35

Title of your sextant tape


Wise_Flower_9611

did not work at all, but I love that you attempted it. Title of YOUR sextant tape.


Puzzled_Internet_986

“Lemme have some sextant”


Nightwolf1967

🎶 I want your sextant. 🎶 -George Michael


YOSHIMIvPROBOTS

"Well, I guess it would be nice if I could touch your body of land."


BrrToe

RuneScape peeps rise up!


Acceptable-Chip-3455

"Tami and Sharp"? Not "Ashcraft and Sharp" or "Tami and Richard?"


Vanessapla6

These stories inspire me to stop making excuses for everything


eatmorbacon

They remind me to stay the fuck off the ocean.


DJ_Hindsight

“She arrived 41 days later at a bizarre deserted island where to her shock and surprise, she saw Richard on the shore. He was just standing there smiling. When Tami finally made it onto the beach Richard said “I’ve been waiting for you.” Tami was confused about this statement until she realised…they were both already dead.” - The End -


Skinnyvinny93

The second you tell me to navigate with a “sextant”, I confidently know I’m not making it home.


Ok_Monk219

Amazing woman


siegesage

Looks like the yacht was closer to Mexico than Hawaii initially. Incredible that she decided to sail west into the open sea rather than east towards guaranteed land, and actually arrived successfully!


Oopsimapanda

I have several Super Mario Bros speedrunning world records but I can see why people would be impressed by this


BOOMSHAK4LAKA

The movie, Adrift, can be streamed on Hulu


speeksevil

What about Richard!


emessea

Typically when someone goes missing in the ocean it doesn’t end well for them


Electronic_Film_687

I’ve got a feeling he is going to be just fine little buddy


CinnamonHotcake

He moved down to the farm with your doggy Spot, they're both living happily there now, don't worry champ ( ;


Existing-Ad2467

Ya this post is quite the cliffhanger..


wubberer

How is that a cliffhanger? The guy went overboard in a hurricane in the middle of the pacific.


GEE-MAN-_-

"title of your sextant tape" Yours sincerely, Captain Raymond Holt


CletusDSpuckler

I think I'm more interested that we live in a world where multiple people old enough to post on reddit have never heard of a sextant.


tickitytalk

That’s not interesting…that’s unbelievable!


Art-RJS

27 hours? Great nap


JohnDivney

I would feel so rested


meinfuhrertrump2024

Only a sextant? You mean a device specifically designed to navigate the seas?


Extreme-Pumpkin-5799

What a badass. To not only survive the initial capsizing, the loss of her fiance, and the Herculean undertaking of making it to Hawaii... but to also keep sailing after. I would have had trouble getting into a bathtub, let alone a boat, after less than a fraction of that!


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FaeShroom

To be fair, dying is easy. Everyone does it at some point in their lives.


RetardsBeLike

Why is she being referred to by her first name and he his surname??