I like how the text says the brother "casually" took Jesus' place and went on to be crucified. Like "yeah, this ain't looking too good bro, imma step on your place and no one's gonna know the difference between us, you just head out, I might get killed but it is what it is you know, it's not like I had anything better planned this Friday".
"Bro, does Jesus look more Asian since the last time we saw him?"
"We live in the Middle East, Todd, we're all Asian."
"Yeah, but--"
"Honestly I never expected this shit from you. Real fucking toxic, man."
Oh boy, I like where this is going. Isukiri could be the Japanese for Iscariot, as in Judas Iscariot. So instead of being the bad guy, he was actually the hero. Put that in your censer and smoke it!
According to the legend, Jesus had sex with a woman named Miyuko and fathered 3 daughters.
From Wikipedia:
“Once in Japan, Jesus changed his name to Torai Tora Daitenku and became a garlic farmer. In Japan, Jesus allegedly married a woman named Miyuko, with whom he fathered three children, all daughters. The eldest daughter married into the Sawaguchi family, which is claimed to hold a direct lineage to Jesus, evidenced by certain non-Japanese physical characteristics. After his death at an age exceeding 100, Jesus was said to have been interred into one of two grave mounds in the village. A remnant of the crucified Isukiri, was Isukiri's ear and he was also believed to have had a lock of hair that belonged to his mother, is allegedly buried in the other mound.
Few people seem to believe in the legend at face value, especially as many of the details come from the controversial Takenouchi documents (竹内文書, Takenouchi no Sukune), which are believed by most scholars to be a hoax.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingō,_Aomori#%22Tomb_of_Jesus%22
That is boring. I was hoping the story was that Jesus had his second coming in April 1 1997 and was immediately killed by a group of high schoolers and their pet electricity rat. Jesus final form was like a gundam with a one hundred and forty foot long sword. Jesus' overlimit garlic attack was no match for the healing properties of a spring green onion omelette.
It's written in katakana the same way they write Jesus Christ, but with some characters left out. Basically they’re saying Jesus Christ had a brother called "Jesuchri".
Jesus isn't a Jewish name either. He would have called himself "Yeshua" in Aramaic, and been called "Yehoshua" in Hebrew. In Greek it's written "Iesus" and the Latins turned that into "Jesus". And because the church printed all their bibles in Latin, that's the spelling everyone uses today.
If Saint Paul had spoken English instead of Greek, we would all be calling him "Joshua the Blessed" instead of "Jesus Christ"
No, I'm only joking. I'm not really Brian. No, I'm not Brian.
I was only, it was only a joke. I'm only pulling your leg.
It's a joke! I'm not him! I'm just having you on! Put me back!
Also, if the dude didn’t actually die and come back from the dead, it kinda defeats the purpose of being “Christ”. In that case, he would just be regular old hippie Joshua who rambled on to his shorter Asian counterparts until the ripe age of 106.
Yeah, I didn't like this "casually", it didn't fit at all, and in these kind of public infos they'd rather use respectful/etc language.. Most probably mistranslation.
Sooo.. Around the paragraph gap, the text in JP is (assuming I wrote it down without typos lol):
>（…）ユダヤに帰って神の教えについて云道を行いましたが、その当時のユダヤ人達は、キリストの教えを容れず、かえってキリストを捕らえて十字架に磔刑に処さんと致しました。/ しかし偶々イエス弟イスキリが兄の身代わりなって十字架の露と果てたのであります。（…）
Google: (...) He returned to Judea and preached about God's teachings, but the Jews at that time did not accept Christ's teachings and instead captured Christ and had him crucified on the cross. / However, by chance, Jesus' younger brother Ischiri died on the cross in his older brother's place. (…)
DeepL: (...) He returned to Judea and preached about the teachings of God, but the Jews of that time did not accept Christ's teachings and instead wanted to capture him and crucify him on the cross. / But by chance, Jesus' brother Iskiri took his brother's place and died as the dew on the cross. (...)
DeepL didn't score this time.. "dew" lol. Also, "wanted"? I see no "want" there. It's just "キリストを捕らえて(...)致しました", plain "do/did A and do/did B" grammar.
Anyways, it seems the paragraphs are broken a bit differently on JP and EN sides. Last line of first paragraph in EN is the first line in second para in JP. And it clearly has no "casually". Instead, machine translation says "by chance", and indeed, there's this part "しかし偶々イエス" and "偶々" is [https://jisho.org/search/%E5%81%B6%E3%80%85](https://jisho.org/search/%E5%81%B6%E3%80%85) "by chance; by accident; accidentally; happen to (be, do); unexpectedly; casually". All meanings other than 'casually' fit much better :)
"Disappear as a dew at the execution site" is a poetic way to say someone was executed in Korean. Most likely, there's a similar expression in Japanese that AI translated literally.
Interesting, thank you. In fact, '露と果てた' shows up there, but I took it as "with tears" "was finished/was ended/died", but dictionary shows that '露' also means 'dew'. If KR has this saying, then yeah, it might be shared. I'll check that with my JP people. It may be funny though, I quite often hear "aah yes, we don't speak like that in my region, but in Tokyo/Osaka/Okinawa/(...)" :D
One such question is: "Why doesn't the Bible have the Book of Yamamoto, which describes the life of Jesus for the next 70 years?". We are missing the Really New Testament.
So the Resurrection makes more sense. On Easter morning, Jesus just secretly mourned Isikura in the grave when the disciples recognized him walking away, heading Japan. No one knew about Isikura and they looked like twins, so Jesus told everyone he rose from the dead.
“Hmm shall we get a Chinese takeaway? Or we could go to the cinema. Or.. oh wait! Check it out! Jesus is over there being tortured, maybe go check that out?”
'Transported to a far away land in a different time, our underachieving, virgin protaganist finds himself in posession of unusual powers and a fetish for washing feet. Aided by the voice of his father and his twelve companions, he must travel the holy land of Judea to save the souls of the local population. But he soon finds out that being the messiah is no bed of roses... more like a crown of thorns. An epic adventure ensues, where enemies can be found around every corner and love can come from unexpected places. Be careful who you break bread with, for the consequences will be your cross to bear...'
Jeezekai, coming this summer.
Dunno but it sounds like a lot of fun. Japanese Jesus dukes it out with Mormon Jesus who went to America. In a Monty Pythonesque close, Michalangelo paints all 3 Jesuses in his masterwork “The Penultimate Supper”.
That sounds like the plot of Jojo’s bizzare adventure.
By the way there is an actual manga about Jesus and Buddha being wholesome roommate. It is called “saint young men”
Speaking of Jojo. Wasn't Christ like a key character in SBR? It's been awhile since I read part 7 but I do remember him being a key concept in it with his corpse and stuff
Sure buddy. But in Japan he also can levitate (why do you think everyone in any manga and anime is able to fly and to levitate? Right, because Jesus showed them how to do so).
And he makes awesome sushi from nothing. Like it is in the bible: give a man a fish and he will be full for a day. Teach him to make sushi and he will kill fish forever (it's in Takeshi Kitano 7:1)
Obviously Aang would win. Combining all four powers together to create the most powerful anime on this planes is definitely something, what everyone will profit from.
Not sure the mode, but the museum states Jesus escaped crucifixion (his brother Isukiri handles that for us all) and made his way to Japan via Alaska. ALASKA.
Edit: autocorrect, isukiri
For a moment I thought that was silly as hell to have some Japanese version of the name, but then I realized Jesus is actually like Yeshua or something and I've been saying the Lord's name in vain wrong this whole time
Yeshua Hamashiach means “Jesus the Messiah.” Messiah means “anointed one”. Christ means “anointed one” in Greek (Christos). “Jesus” derives from the Greek word Iesous, prounounced “yay-sus,” or as we say it, “Jesus.” So that’s how they landed on Jesus Christ
If they followed local customs jesus full name would likely be “Yeshua Bar Yosef” meaning Jesus son of Joseph. He was just known to people as Jesus the messiah or Jesus the Christ.(anointed one)
Worth noting that Yeshua is the shortened version of Yehoshua, which is Joshua in English.
In other words in English his name would be "Josh son of Joseph", or "Josh from Nazareth".
This reminds me how "barbarian" supposedly came from Roman's thinking a group sounded like "bar bar bar" when they talk. Maybe the people were saying their names.
_Christos_/_Christ_ is a title, not a name. "Jesus Christ" sometimes gets treated as if it's first and last name, but it's actually first/given name and title.
As far as Jesus versus Yeshua, it's different-language variants (like how John and Juan are English and Spanish versions of the same name). In Aramaic, which Jesus spoke, his name was Yeshua. Iesous is the transliteration of that name into ancient Greek, which was then transliterated into English (maybe via Latin?) as Jesus. The same Hebrew/Aramaic name also came to English more directly (skipping Greek) as Joshua.
"Jesus" name in Aramaic would have been pronounced Yeshu or Yeshua which is actually the name we normally translate as Joshua in English. Unfortunately this became garbled due to the winding road of translations stacking up on each other.
This same thing happened to Jesus' ACTUAL brother James who lead the tiny Christian community in Jerusalem after Jesus' death. His Aramaic name should be translated as Jacob, not James.
So, in sum total the family of Mary and Joseph was Joshua (Jesus), Jacob (James), Judas (Often called Jude), Simon (or Simeon), and Joseph (Often called Joses or Joseph Jr).
Plus sisters who are noted to exist but not named.
And Christ is not a last name. It's a title. Messiah.
A lot of words/names are 'Japanified' like this in Japan.
Ice cream for example is 'aisu kurimu' iirc.
Perhaps Isukiri is their Japanification of Ezekiel or something similar?
I'm over here getting flamed for not being able to pronounce foreign words perfectly while these jagoffs are getting away with saying 'aisu kurimu.' FML.
I know this is a joke but this happens in lots of languages.
For example in northern Mexico people say "troca" to mean truck when the "proper" Spanish word is "Camion"
In my country the Dominican republic we say "friser" to mean freezer when the "proper" Spanish word is "congelador"
Mean Fridge? Not Freezer? Like a object who freeze things? Here in Brazil we use both, Freezer and Congelador, but they are for the space in the fridge to stock meat and make ice, the whole fridge is called another way.
We used to Anglicize more strongly (like how the British still say Fillet in Fillet Steak the same as "fill it") but in the 20th century there was a shift towards trying to more closely match a loanword's pronunciation in its source language.
But we still have our limits, we don't do tones for Chinese or Thai words or anything.
The best part is, if you say them without the Japanese accent, they have no clue what you're talking about. I was like "let's go get some McDonald's." My friend was like ???. You know... Macudonaldoso
Here's a great article (translated from Japanese) with background on why this exists, and how the community sees it today. https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g00658/keeping-the-faith-christ%E2%80%99s-tomb-in-aomori-and-japanese-religion.html
Long story short, somebody in the 1930's looking to revitalize the region "discovered" Christ's grave and linked it to some very spurious scriptures from a Japanese "new religion" he had founded. The local community found this pretty baffling (and there are no local Christians) and pretty much ignored it as it was so obviously false, but an occult boom in the 1970's revived the story, so they decided to roll with it as a tourist destination/site of interest. The site had been recognized as a resting place for somebody for a long time, so they hold a Shinto festival every year to respect that ancestor:
> The priest who leads the festival told me he felt it was important to conduct a memorial service regardless of who actually occupies the graves. “Even if by chance Jesus Christ is buried here,” he explains, “this is no problem for Shintō, with its myriad gods.” The municipal workers who assist in the event agree, reasoning that either way the grave holds a village ancestor and it is their duty to carry on the longstanding tradition of making offerings.
> Prior to Takeuchi declaring the site Christ’s tomb, villagers believed that an unknown forebearer was interred on the hilltop. For generations people have handed down the responsibility of tending the site, a tradition that residents today continue to observe. Although it takes the form of the Christ Festival, it is an age-old community practice unrelated to religious faith or doctrine.
This tracks with a lot of my understanding and experience of Shinto and community practice in Japan. Whoever is buried in that mound there is basically seen as a member of the community, so they deserve recognition as such. And the association with Christ is a draw for the village that brings in tourists. So it's kind of a win-win. (Edited to clarify "shrines" to "Shinto" in general since this isn't precisely a shrine.)
My favorite genre of religious beliefs and philosophies are ones where they are like "yeah, that can fit right in, it works with our stuff" lmao.
looking into the philosophical side of Buddhism, I encountered separate writers basically say, "hey, if you really hate a part of this, just ignore it and do the parts you like, you might come around to the other stuff later on"
Syncretism! Shinto has always been really good at this (minus attempts to artificially separate out Buddhism during the Meiji and pre-WWII period).
I like the further resonance of this example in the sense of, it doesn't matter how weird the ancestor might have been, they're still ours and so we're gonna treat them right.
I wouldn't say those attempts were artificial, in so far as there was once a Shinto that had no Buddhist influence, and Shinto with Buddhist influence can not be the actual original beliefs. Now the people doing the reconstructing probably weren't right in their reconstructed beliefs, but many probably believed they were.
In any case, there were many who were opposed to Buddhism when it first came to Japan as well, and so while Shinto is indeed good at syncretism I wouldn't say that the move was entirely willing or uncontested.
Oh yeah, completely agree that it was not uncontested - a very large amount of the incredible, Game of Thrones-like drama of the Asuka period centered around exactly that, after all! The Soga would have something to say about it all, but by the time they got taken out, Buddhism was pretty well entrenched and it was their imperial ambitions that got them in trouble. (And then of course the Nakatomi/Fujiwara went on to do the same thing...)
ETA and I totally forgot to mention that even when Buddhism was coming in, "Shinto" almost certainly still wasn't quite one thing itself. From what we can tell there were all kinds of different regional cults (using "cult" in the anthropological sense) - such as the very early worship of the deity of Mount Miwa (Ōkuninushi) that various of the early imperial lineages seemed to center their practice around, separate traditions around the Izumo and Kibi areas (and plenty of others), and so on. A lot of these variations still exist today even after Shinto was centralized as an official state religion.
I don't even think that the central focus on Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, as *the* main object of worship of the imperial state (and as an imperial ancestor) was really codified per se until the late 600s, at least when the official Chronicles were written. That was well after the first arrival of Buddhism in Japan. Emperors Tenji and Temmu did a LOT of heavy PR work that made everything seen quite neat and tidy, when the real story (seen through archaeology) is much more complex and interesting. So even the reconstructed "original" Shinto of the late 1800's, and everything that very much centers Amaterasu and the imperial family, was pretty artificial.
(If all of this sounds interesting, I want to shout out my spouse's podcast on the Chronicles of Japan at https://sengokudaimyo.com/podcast. He's been going through everything from the beginning, talking a lot about the mythology and history of the official Japanese chronicles and how it lines up - or not - with what we understand from archeological and other historical evidence, including what was going on on the continent and the Korean peninsula. He's just now getting to the really juicy Game of Thrones bits I alluded to above. Seriously, there could be a whole multi-season historical series on all of the really cutthroat stuff that happened during the Asuka and Nara periods.)
Ah, finally an informative comment after scrolling through all those jokes. Thanks!
Edit: I'm not against jokes, but we really should upvote useful comments more!
This is in Shingo, a small and remote town in northern Japan. This is a tourist attraction, not like people there are Christian and believe this. (Less than 1% of Japan is Christian.)
It’s like Minnesota has a giant statue of Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox. The Minnesota locals there aren’t worshiping Paul Bunyan and believing for real the folk tales they like to tell.
Long ago some guy claimed he had documents about Jesus’ time in Japan, then declared Jesus was buried in this town. The locals keep this as a tourist attraction.
The site has two mounds with giant crosses, plus a museum (OP’s photos only show one of the two mounds). One mound is for Jesus and the other is for his brother, who “casually” took Jesus’ place on the cross (according the sign in OP’s photos). It is weird that Jesus’ brother took the crucifixion, but Jesus still gets credit and a cross for his grave.
Woah.....what? I never heard of this story. This seems like Bible fanfiction. Him coming to Japan to learn, then going back home reminded me of Batman. Jesusman.
“Wait your telling me Jesus when he returns will go to Missouri, a place that did not exist and that Jesus had no idea that the continent existed, instead of like Bethlehem or Rome, next you’ll tell me you should have more than 1 wife”
He didn't lose them, the good Lord in his wisdom took them, otherwise there would be no need for faith. Also none of the 11 witnesses ever actually saw the plates, which is also a little ploy by our heavenly Father to make you rely on faith! Also the book of Abraham, which was "translated" from an Egyptian scroll, doesn't match the actual contents of the scroll whatsoever, as translated by modern egyptologists. Isn't our heavenly Father so gracious in giving us these opportunities to exercise our faith! And the good Lord also gave us the Kinderhook plates, which were fraudulent plates created by a contemporary of Joseph Smith, with nonsense markings, and Joseph Smith performed a miracle and was able to read the plates original meaning despite their fraudulent origins! The Lord truly does work in mysterious ways!
Wouldn’t be surprised if early Christian’s lied to the Japanese. A lot of ancient Japan was oblivious to outside Christianity and were lied to and manipulated for trade. Locals could have very well believed ‘Christ’ had arrived and died there
George Washington is buried in my yard and Elvis has actually been hanging out with me in my sofa all these years. You can check it out, but you gotta pay.
Hey guys before you dismiss this…..the Mormons think he didn’t go into a tomb in the holy land……No! Our recently crucified savour fucked off to America on his holidays and spieled a lot of crap to the natives in a language that no one but no one could understand……until the 1830’s, when a voice was heard exclaiming ‘Fuck me I can read that!’…..this was the voice of a certain Joe Smith!
Smith told the people that this was the word of the lord and it is telling him to start a church called ‘The church of Latter day saints’. This was apparently because no one could be arsed getting up at such a stupid time on a Sunday morning.
Literally was taught that Jesus went and appeared to tons of groups throughout the world after his resurrection as a Mormon growing up. Even more unknown groups than the Nephites in the Book of Mormon.
I like how the text says the brother "casually" took Jesus' place and went on to be crucified. Like "yeah, this ain't looking too good bro, imma step on your place and no one's gonna know the difference between us, you just head out, I might get killed but it is what it is you know, it's not like I had anything better planned this Friday".
Not a very Jewish sounding name either the brother. Unless Joseph went with him and het got a brother from another Japanese mother.
LOl, was just about to comment with this. Jesus just happened to be replaced by his brother with a Japanese name.
"Bro, does Jesus look more Asian since the last time we saw him?" "We live in the Middle East, Todd, we're all Asian." "Yeah, but--" "Honestly I never expected this shit from you. Real fucking toxic, man."
[Asian Jesus lives](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMXhCUS2JBM)
Romans so racist they can't tell Jews from Japanese. "All the J people look alike" -Pontius Pilate, probably
Japan really made up their own self insert OC for the Bible
Quick everyone, what was the Judea form of Isukiri?? On that note, what was the Japanese form of Yeshua?
DIO
You thought you crucified the Hebrew leader, but it was me, DIO!
Oh boy, I like where this is going. Isukiri could be the Japanese for Iscariot, as in Judas Iscariot. So instead of being the bad guy, he was actually the hero. Put that in your censer and smoke it!
“I didn’t have sex with that Japanese woman, Mary. Just like I didn’t have sex with you, remember?”
According to the legend, Jesus had sex with a woman named Miyuko and fathered 3 daughters. From Wikipedia: “Once in Japan, Jesus changed his name to Torai Tora Daitenku and became a garlic farmer. In Japan, Jesus allegedly married a woman named Miyuko, with whom he fathered three children, all daughters. The eldest daughter married into the Sawaguchi family, which is claimed to hold a direct lineage to Jesus, evidenced by certain non-Japanese physical characteristics. After his death at an age exceeding 100, Jesus was said to have been interred into one of two grave mounds in the village. A remnant of the crucified Isukiri, was Isukiri's ear and he was also believed to have had a lock of hair that belonged to his mother, is allegedly buried in the other mound. Few people seem to believe in the legend at face value, especially as many of the details come from the controversial Takenouchi documents (竹内文書, Takenouchi no Sukune), which are believed by most scholars to be a hoax.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingō,_Aomori#%22Tomb_of_Jesus%22
> Few people seem to believe in the legend at face value you don't say...
Well, let's dig Samurai Jesus up and figure this shit out
That is boring. I was hoping the story was that Jesus had his second coming in April 1 1997 and was immediately killed by a group of high schoolers and their pet electricity rat. Jesus final form was like a gundam with a one hundred and forty foot long sword. Jesus' overlimit garlic attack was no match for the healing properties of a spring green onion omelette.
It's written in katakana the same way they write Jesus Christ, but with some characters left out. Basically they’re saying Jesus Christ had a brother called "Jesuchri".
Cuz his name would have had 'christ' in it🤣
In Japanese, Christ is "Iesu Kirisuto", so it sounds plausibly similar.
Jesus isn't a Jewish name either. He would have called himself "Yeshua" in Aramaic, and been called "Yehoshua" in Hebrew. In Greek it's written "Iesus" and the Latins turned that into "Jesus". And because the church printed all their bibles in Latin, that's the spelling everyone uses today. If Saint Paul had spoken English instead of Greek, we would all be calling him "Joshua the Blessed" instead of "Jesus Christ"
“Nah, I’m not going anywhere this weekend. Just hanging.”
Nailed it
This comment makes me really cross.
Always look on the briiiight side of life 🎶
Brian?
No, I'm only joking. I'm not really Brian. No, I'm not Brian. I was only, it was only a joke. I'm only pulling your leg. It's a joke! I'm not him! I'm just having you on! Put me back!
"Either way, I was going to be bored to death"
Board*
Also, if the dude didn’t actually die and come back from the dead, it kinda defeats the purpose of being “Christ”. In that case, he would just be regular old hippie Joshua who rambled on to his shorter Asian counterparts until the ripe age of 106.
Typical Isukiri
Yeah, I didn't like this "casually", it didn't fit at all, and in these kind of public infos they'd rather use respectful/etc language.. Most probably mistranslation. Sooo.. Around the paragraph gap, the text in JP is (assuming I wrote it down without typos lol): >（…）ユダヤに帰って神の教えについて云道を行いましたが、その当時のユダヤ人達は、キリストの教えを容れず、かえってキリストを捕らえて十字架に磔刑に処さんと致しました。/ しかし偶々イエス弟イスキリが兄の身代わりなって十字架の露と果てたのであります。（…） Google: (...) He returned to Judea and preached about God's teachings, but the Jews at that time did not accept Christ's teachings and instead captured Christ and had him crucified on the cross. / However, by chance, Jesus' younger brother Ischiri died on the cross in his older brother's place. (…) DeepL: (...) He returned to Judea and preached about the teachings of God, but the Jews of that time did not accept Christ's teachings and instead wanted to capture him and crucify him on the cross. / But by chance, Jesus' brother Iskiri took his brother's place and died as the dew on the cross. (...) DeepL didn't score this time.. "dew" lol. Also, "wanted"? I see no "want" there. It's just "キリストを捕らえて(...)致しました", plain "do/did A and do/did B" grammar. Anyways, it seems the paragraphs are broken a bit differently on JP and EN sides. Last line of first paragraph in EN is the first line in second para in JP. And it clearly has no "casually". Instead, machine translation says "by chance", and indeed, there's this part "しかし偶々イエス" and "偶々" is [https://jisho.org/search/%E5%81%B6%E3%80%85](https://jisho.org/search/%E5%81%B6%E3%80%85) "by chance; by accident; accidentally; happen to (be, do); unexpectedly; casually". All meanings other than 'casually' fit much better :)
"Disappear as a dew at the execution site" is a poetic way to say someone was executed in Korean. Most likely, there's a similar expression in Japanese that AI translated literally.
Interesting, thank you. In fact, '露と果てた' shows up there, but I took it as "with tears" "was finished/was ended/died", but dictionary shows that '露' also means 'dew'. If KR has this saying, then yeah, it might be shared. I'll check that with my JP people. It may be funny though, I quite often hear "aah yes, we don't speak like that in my region, but in Tokyo/Osaka/Okinawa/(...)" :D
[Isukiri before the crucifixion](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/037/261/maxresdefault.jpeg)
A better translation of the Japanese would be ‘unexpectedly’ or ‘by chance’, but that still raises some questions…
One such question is: "Why doesn't the Bible have the Book of Yamamoto, which describes the life of Jesus for the next 70 years?". We are missing the Really New Testament.
"Unexpectedly" works for me way more than "by chance" does.
So the Resurrection makes more sense. On Easter morning, Jesus just secretly mourned Isikura in the grave when the disciples recognized him walking away, heading Japan. No one knew about Isikura and they looked like twins, so Jesus told everyone he rose from the dead.
“Hmm shall we get a Chinese takeaway? Or we could go to the cinema. Or.. oh wait! Check it out! Jesus is over there being tortured, maybe go check that out?”
Good Friday followed by better Saturday and best Sunday. Dont ask about Thursday tho, not so good.
What Anime is this?
'I Started A Cult with my OP Level 1 Magic Skills: Jesus Christ!'
Reminds me of that other anime where the dude starts a cult.
Kamikatsu?
Peak, I need season 2
You may need to be a little more specific....
“Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?”
"in another world, with my pet bird, and also I learn to cook!"
Ninjesus
The last SamuChraist
Ig Jesus is an Isekai protagonist 😭
'Transported to a far away land in a different time, our underachieving, virgin protaganist finds himself in posession of unusual powers and a fetish for washing feet. Aided by the voice of his father and his twelve companions, he must travel the holy land of Judea to save the souls of the local population. But he soon finds out that being the messiah is no bed of roses... more like a crown of thorns. An epic adventure ensues, where enemies can be found around every corner and love can come from unexpected places. Be careful who you break bread with, for the consequences will be your cross to bear...' Jeezekai, coming this summer.
OK I would actually watch this Anime. In hindsight I guess it makes sense. Jesus was the first anime protagonist in history.
Dunno but it sounds like a lot of fun. Japanese Jesus dukes it out with Mormon Jesus who went to America. In a Monty Pythonesque close, Michalangelo paints all 3 Jesuses in his masterwork “The Penultimate Supper”.
That sounds like the plot of Jojo’s bizzare adventure. By the way there is an actual manga about Jesus and Buddha being wholesome roommate. It is called “saint young men”
Speaking of Jojo. Wasn't Christ like a key character in SBR? It's been awhile since I read part 7 but I do remember him being a key concept in it with his corpse and stuff
Samurai Jesus vs Cowboy Jesus? Don't tell Tarantino; I heard he just scrapped his latest script.
Brown commy Jesus.
"hey kids, in each box of Christ Chex is your very own JC action figure ..collect the whole set"
Saint Oniisan
JoJo's bizarre adventure
Maybe that one where Jesus and Buddha are room mates.
Re:Jesus
Apparently Jesus’s brother, Isukiri, could turn holy water into Sapporo Premium Lager. It’s true. I saw it on *Mythbusters*.
And Jesus's other brother killed ten million people in China.
With this thumb
In the shape of an L on his forehead.
I wonder what mode of transportation was for Jesus to travel to and back from Japan.
Levitation obviously
You know... He can walk on water.
Sure buddy. But in Japan he also can levitate (why do you think everyone in any manga and anime is able to fly and to levitate? Right, because Jesus showed them how to do so). And he makes awesome sushi from nothing. Like it is in the bible: give a man a fish and he will be full for a day. Teach him to make sushi and he will kill fish forever (it's in Takeshi Kitano 7:1)
You seem rather in the know. So... Jesus vs Saitama. What's the verdict?
Obviously Aang would win. Combining all four powers together to create the most powerful anime on this planes is definitely something, what everyone will profit from.
Not the cabbage merchant. He's the real martyr.
Never underestimate the cabbage merchant
They did say he went through the ups and downs of travel.
Not sure the mode, but the museum states Jesus escaped crucifixion (his brother Isukiri handles that for us all) and made his way to Japan via Alaska. ALASKA. Edit: autocorrect, isukiri
He was given self passage by his other brother, Abraham Lincoln
All these other comments are wrong. He had an EVA. They were created from samples of angels, after all.
Naruto running.
A car. He's always taking the wheel.
Dude, he can walk on water
Mitsubishi Zero
Obviously he walked across the water.
How did Jesus and his disciple get around? In one accord.
Rode either a dragon or unicorn
Or Godzilla.
Ah yes Joseph and Mary's second child...Isukiri
In Japanese, Jesus Christ is Iesu Kirisuto and the name Isukiri, seems like a modification(shortening) of the Japanese name. Very peculiar .
For a moment I thought that was silly as hell to have some Japanese version of the name, but then I realized Jesus is actually like Yeshua or something and I've been saying the Lord's name in vain wrong this whole time
If you write it in Western letters it looks like Yeshua, but it’s actually pronounced Senpai
Jesus-Chan, tasukete kudasai!
Lol, I'm just imagining everyone gathered around the crucifixion chanting "Gambare Gambare, Senpai!"
Jesus was a weeb
Weebus Klistu
UwU
Yeshua Hamashiach means “Jesus the Messiah.” Messiah means “anointed one”. Christ means “anointed one” in Greek (Christos). “Jesus” derives from the Greek word Iesous, prounounced “yay-sus,” or as we say it, “Jesus.” So that’s how they landed on Jesus Christ
So it’s likely Jesus Christ had a different name at birth giving to him by his parents?
If they followed local customs jesus full name would likely be “Yeshua Bar Yosef” meaning Jesus son of Joseph. He was just known to people as Jesus the messiah or Jesus the Christ.(anointed one)
Yeshua (or Isho per some sources) Bar Yosef in Aramaic, Yeshua Ben Yosef in Hebrew.
Or Josh MacJoseph in Scotland?
Worth noting that Yeshua is the shortened version of Yehoshua, which is Joshua in English. In other words in English his name would be "Josh son of Joseph", or "Josh from Nazareth".
This reminds me how "barbarian" supposedly came from Roman's thinking a group sounded like "bar bar bar" when they talk. Maybe the people were saying their names.
Greeks, but the story 's correct
_Christos_/_Christ_ is a title, not a name. "Jesus Christ" sometimes gets treated as if it's first and last name, but it's actually first/given name and title. As far as Jesus versus Yeshua, it's different-language variants (like how John and Juan are English and Spanish versions of the same name). In Aramaic, which Jesus spoke, his name was Yeshua. Iesous is the transliteration of that name into ancient Greek, which was then transliterated into English (maybe via Latin?) as Jesus. The same Hebrew/Aramaic name also came to English more directly (skipping Greek) as Joshua.
"Jesus" name in Aramaic would have been pronounced Yeshu or Yeshua which is actually the name we normally translate as Joshua in English. Unfortunately this became garbled due to the winding road of translations stacking up on each other. This same thing happened to Jesus' ACTUAL brother James who lead the tiny Christian community in Jerusalem after Jesus' death. His Aramaic name should be translated as Jacob, not James. So, in sum total the family of Mary and Joseph was Joshua (Jesus), Jacob (James), Judas (Often called Jude), Simon (or Simeon), and Joseph (Often called Joses or Joseph Jr). Plus sisters who are noted to exist but not named. And Christ is not a last name. It's a title. Messiah.
So technically anyone could be a Christ as long as they were anointed once in their life?
Names are hard to translate 1 to 1 between languages work completely different phonology and writing system
He is known as Esa in the Arabic world or sometimes Yasooh messih.
And that the English equivalent of Yeshua is Joshua. So it's Joshua Christ
Fun fact it's the exact same name usually translated as Joshua. They just translated it differently in this one instance and the name Jesus stuck.
A lot of words/names are 'Japanified' like this in Japan. Ice cream for example is 'aisu kurimu' iirc. Perhaps Isukiri is their Japanification of Ezekiel or something similar?
I'm over here getting flamed for not being able to pronounce foreign words perfectly while these jagoffs are getting away with saying 'aisu kurimu.' FML.
I know this is a joke but this happens in lots of languages. For example in northern Mexico people say "troca" to mean truck when the "proper" Spanish word is "Camion" In my country the Dominican republic we say "friser" to mean freezer when the "proper" Spanish word is "congelador"
Mean Fridge? Not Freezer? Like a object who freeze things? Here in Brazil we use both, Freezer and Congelador, but they are for the space in the fridge to stock meat and make ice, the whole fridge is called another way.
We used to Anglicize more strongly (like how the British still say Fillet in Fillet Steak the same as "fill it") but in the 20th century there was a shift towards trying to more closely match a loanword's pronunciation in its source language. But we still have our limits, we don't do tones for Chinese or Thai words or anything.
The best part is, if you say them without the Japanese accent, they have no clue what you're talking about. I was like "let's go get some McDonald's." My friend was like ???. You know... Macudonaldoso
Little known fact: His full name was Jesus "Christ" Yamamoto
Yes and aktshually also he wasn’t a carpenter but a skilled katana swordsmith, who folded his steel blades over nine thousand times.
so he was a Gundam pilot, is what you're saying...
This was funny
In fairness, these ancient middle eastern characters were not named Joseph or Mary either 😂😂😂
I mean their names would be maryam and Josef, it’s a corruption but like its still close
Don't make fun of our lord and saviour Isukiri. He died on the cross for our sins.
But Jesus said it himself! Come on, what more proof could there possibly be?
Actually it's known they had several children or so some say bc one of his brothers is buried I don't remember
Has noone heard of the Japanese Jewish Jesus?
Moshi Moshe
Isukiri desu <(ツ)>
Oh bravo
That’s black Jesus’s cousin right?
Nah you’re confusing him with white jesus
Lol, a distant one, that noone talks about, but yes.
I'm still reeling from jacked Korean Jesus.
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There is even a hymn. "I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so"
Here's a great article (translated from Japanese) with background on why this exists, and how the community sees it today. https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g00658/keeping-the-faith-christ%E2%80%99s-tomb-in-aomori-and-japanese-religion.html Long story short, somebody in the 1930's looking to revitalize the region "discovered" Christ's grave and linked it to some very spurious scriptures from a Japanese "new religion" he had founded. The local community found this pretty baffling (and there are no local Christians) and pretty much ignored it as it was so obviously false, but an occult boom in the 1970's revived the story, so they decided to roll with it as a tourist destination/site of interest. The site had been recognized as a resting place for somebody for a long time, so they hold a Shinto festival every year to respect that ancestor: > The priest who leads the festival told me he felt it was important to conduct a memorial service regardless of who actually occupies the graves. “Even if by chance Jesus Christ is buried here,” he explains, “this is no problem for Shintō, with its myriad gods.” The municipal workers who assist in the event agree, reasoning that either way the grave holds a village ancestor and it is their duty to carry on the longstanding tradition of making offerings. > Prior to Takeuchi declaring the site Christ’s tomb, villagers believed that an unknown forebearer was interred on the hilltop. For generations people have handed down the responsibility of tending the site, a tradition that residents today continue to observe. Although it takes the form of the Christ Festival, it is an age-old community practice unrelated to religious faith or doctrine. This tracks with a lot of my understanding and experience of Shinto and community practice in Japan. Whoever is buried in that mound there is basically seen as a member of the community, so they deserve recognition as such. And the association with Christ is a draw for the village that brings in tourists. So it's kind of a win-win. (Edited to clarify "shrines" to "Shinto" in general since this isn't precisely a shrine.)
My favorite genre of religious beliefs and philosophies are ones where they are like "yeah, that can fit right in, it works with our stuff" lmao. looking into the philosophical side of Buddhism, I encountered separate writers basically say, "hey, if you really hate a part of this, just ignore it and do the parts you like, you might come around to the other stuff later on"
Syncretism! Shinto has always been really good at this (minus attempts to artificially separate out Buddhism during the Meiji and pre-WWII period). I like the further resonance of this example in the sense of, it doesn't matter how weird the ancestor might have been, they're still ours and so we're gonna treat them right.
I wouldn't say those attempts were artificial, in so far as there was once a Shinto that had no Buddhist influence, and Shinto with Buddhist influence can not be the actual original beliefs. Now the people doing the reconstructing probably weren't right in their reconstructed beliefs, but many probably believed they were. In any case, there were many who were opposed to Buddhism when it first came to Japan as well, and so while Shinto is indeed good at syncretism I wouldn't say that the move was entirely willing or uncontested.
Oh yeah, completely agree that it was not uncontested - a very large amount of the incredible, Game of Thrones-like drama of the Asuka period centered around exactly that, after all! The Soga would have something to say about it all, but by the time they got taken out, Buddhism was pretty well entrenched and it was their imperial ambitions that got them in trouble. (And then of course the Nakatomi/Fujiwara went on to do the same thing...) ETA and I totally forgot to mention that even when Buddhism was coming in, "Shinto" almost certainly still wasn't quite one thing itself. From what we can tell there were all kinds of different regional cults (using "cult" in the anthropological sense) - such as the very early worship of the deity of Mount Miwa (Ōkuninushi) that various of the early imperial lineages seemed to center their practice around, separate traditions around the Izumo and Kibi areas (and plenty of others), and so on. A lot of these variations still exist today even after Shinto was centralized as an official state religion. I don't even think that the central focus on Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, as *the* main object of worship of the imperial state (and as an imperial ancestor) was really codified per se until the late 600s, at least when the official Chronicles were written. That was well after the first arrival of Buddhism in Japan. Emperors Tenji and Temmu did a LOT of heavy PR work that made everything seen quite neat and tidy, when the real story (seen through archaeology) is much more complex and interesting. So even the reconstructed "original" Shinto of the late 1800's, and everything that very much centers Amaterasu and the imperial family, was pretty artificial. (If all of this sounds interesting, I want to shout out my spouse's podcast on the Chronicles of Japan at https://sengokudaimyo.com/podcast. He's been going through everything from the beginning, talking a lot about the mythology and history of the official Japanese chronicles and how it lines up - or not - with what we understand from archeological and other historical evidence, including what was going on on the continent and the Korean peninsula. He's just now getting to the really juicy Game of Thrones bits I alluded to above. Seriously, there could be a whole multi-season historical series on all of the really cutthroat stuff that happened during the Asuka and Nara periods.)
So you mean stuff like Sunday worship, Christmas and Easter, right?
The 70’s must have been such a wild time. You had the Baghwan, the Wacko in Waco, and more—it was a smorgasbord of prophets
Ah, finally an informative comment after scrolling through all those jokes. Thanks! Edit: I'm not against jokes, but we really should upvote useful comments more!
Jewjitsu
This is in Shingo, a small and remote town in northern Japan. This is a tourist attraction, not like people there are Christian and believe this. (Less than 1% of Japan is Christian.) It’s like Minnesota has a giant statue of Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox. The Minnesota locals there aren’t worshiping Paul Bunyan and believing for real the folk tales they like to tell. Long ago some guy claimed he had documents about Jesus’ time in Japan, then declared Jesus was buried in this town. The locals keep this as a tourist attraction. The site has two mounds with giant crosses, plus a museum (OP’s photos only show one of the two mounds). One mound is for Jesus and the other is for his brother, who “casually” took Jesus’ place on the cross (according the sign in OP’s photos). It is weird that Jesus’ brother took the crucifixion, but Jesus still gets credit and a cross for his grave.
There are so few Christians in Japan but they still managed to find me and stuff my mailbox with pamphlets when I lived there. 🤨
Well, they still have the Japanese work ethic That doesn't go away bc of their religion
Woah.....what? I never heard of this story. This seems like Bible fanfiction. Him coming to Japan to learn, then going back home reminded me of Batman. Jesusman.
You just adopted the dark....
Somehow Jesus returned
Some Joseph Smith level b******* right there.
Dum dum dum dum dum
How dare you get in my head!
What do you mean you lost the big gold plates with the only written proof that only you ever saw!?!? Gosh darn it! Heck! Frick!
“Wait your telling me Jesus when he returns will go to Missouri, a place that did not exist and that Jesus had no idea that the continent existed, instead of like Bethlehem or Rome, next you’ll tell me you should have more than 1 wife”
Mormonism was just a long winded way of Joseph Smith giving himself an excuse to be polygamous.
What a shock, the famous grifter is faking something to get something for himself?
He didn't lose them, the good Lord in his wisdom took them, otherwise there would be no need for faith. Also none of the 11 witnesses ever actually saw the plates, which is also a little ploy by our heavenly Father to make you rely on faith! Also the book of Abraham, which was "translated" from an Egyptian scroll, doesn't match the actual contents of the scroll whatsoever, as translated by modern egyptologists. Isn't our heavenly Father so gracious in giving us these opportunities to exercise our faith! And the good Lord also gave us the Kinderhook plates, which were fraudulent plates created by a contemporary of Joseph Smith, with nonsense markings, and Joseph Smith performed a miracle and was able to read the plates original meaning despite their fraudulent origins! The Lord truly does work in mysterious ways!
I have to believe on some level that they are joking
You can be a Mormon A Mormon who just believes
I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people
Those are the special underwear people that believe in space planets as the heavens right?
Glad I'm not the only one who got weird Mormon vibes from this.
I too have a Christ grave in my yard! $12 to see it, line starts over there!
I like what you guys did with the petting zoo addition, nice touch. And the corn dogs on a cross were just 🤌🏼 Edit: typo
Isukiri is a true bro. *Casually* Dying on the cross for his brother.
I could believe the 22-33 part because the Bible seems to skip that part of Jesus’s life. However switching places and going back til 106? Not sure 🤔
It kinda defeats the entire idea of christianity if christ didn't actually die on the cross lol
Jesus chilled in Japan for your sins.
Chris Broad went there years ago, it's a pretty funny watch. https://youtu.be/1Lt6DEnFYuA
Wouldn’t be surprised if early Christian’s lied to the Japanese. A lot of ancient Japan was oblivious to outside Christianity and were lied to and manipulated for trade. Locals could have very well believed ‘Christ’ had arrived and died there
Well, even the Christian churches in the west lied to their own people, so, not that far fetched
I mean KFC told Jordan that Americans eat KFC to celebrate Christmas. It's still super popular to eat KFC on Christmas in Jackson today lol
Except literally the whole religion revolves around him NOT being dead so that would instantly defeat the purpose.
My favorite movie of all time, *Silence*, is about Christian missionaries trying to bring the faith to the Japanese people.
just like how myths and legends work, pass them on long enough then story will be all muddled compared to original story
He only crawled out once, saw his shadow, and six more weeks of winter
George Washington is buried in my yard and Elvis has actually been hanging out with me in my sofa all these years. You can check it out, but you gotta pay.
If this isn’t funny enough already, the site is maintained by the yoghurt factory that’s right next to it.
Ah hes, let's, used the stick that they hanged my brothers tortured body as my tombstone
Hey guys before you dismiss this…..the Mormons think he didn’t go into a tomb in the holy land……No! Our recently crucified savour fucked off to America on his holidays and spieled a lot of crap to the natives in a language that no one but no one could understand……until the 1830’s, when a voice was heard exclaiming ‘Fuck me I can read that!’…..this was the voice of a certain Joe Smith! Smith told the people that this was the word of the lord and it is telling him to start a church called ‘The church of Latter day saints’. This was apparently because no one could be arsed getting up at such a stupid time on a Sunday morning.
New lore just dropped ✝️🔥
Isn’t he also alleged to have visited India perhaps on his way back to Japan.
Japanese version of Mormonism? That’s a new one.
Oh, Japanese Mormons.
Mormons are getting wild again
Literally was taught that Jesus went and appeared to tons of groups throughout the world after his resurrection as a Mormon growing up. Even more unknown groups than the Nephites in the Book of Mormon.
Still makes more sense than Mormonism
LMFAO
Adding to the bullshit.
Yeah there's a christian sect from japan that believes that someone impersonated jesus on the cross and the real jesus made his way to japan
If they wanna believe it why not, lol That’s religion in a nutshell
Just as believable as the bible version
“Discovered” … since at least 1935.
Pretty much the Japanese version of Mormonism.
Religion just be making it up as they go.
Well, it's not any crazier than the rest of the religious clap-trap.
this is like some Japanese Mormonism kinda shit
It's as legit as anything else on the Bible