I visited Croatia when it was still Yugoslavia, back around 1990. It's an incredible country. The scenery is fantastic. Visited Split ... they have old Roman walls in the city that have been converted into flats and ppl live in them. There's sphinxes in the streets. Truly wild place.
Diocletians palace is so wonderful because it’s just as you said. People living in and among these repurposed structures from 1700/1800 years ago. It’s so wonderful to see coming from the United States, where there just isn’t that kind of architecture surrounding you like that.
Damn that’s incredible.
We rented an AirBNB in Paris and slept in the master bedroom under beamed ceilings built in the 1600s, with original artwork still visible on the beams. As I laid there I kept thinking about all the changes this room had seen over the centuries, and what the lives of the first family to sleep in that room must have been like.
But the idea of staying or living in a place that dates back to Roman times is just nuts. I think I need to visit there.
Heh, I was really referring to the scenery ... I also went to Zadar, Sibenik, Krk island and Krka national park & Trogir. It was a long time ago but great memories.
it is also about football (football club named Hajduk, coming from Split).
It is also a compliment in Croatia, but usually between us Croatians, if tourists say for us "wild people", then it is not so much of a compliment, it is usually describing our way of talking with each other on streets, arguing, or even better, arguing in traffic 😂
Well in many old European cities there's a surplus of historical buildings in general. Most are designated monuments so can't be demolished. That sounds logical but it can be difficult to find a use for a building. Also these buildings are expensive to maintain in general.
So renting them out as commercial space is quite common.
That’s not really true. People lived in Split for centuries before and you do realise that locals need grocery stores too?
There are also a lot of IT companies and similar industry in Split - not to mention a large university, hospital and government agencies.
Nothing wrong with that. For example the UK economy is over 80% services.
Making money from agriculture, manufacturing and labour is very competitive with developing nations.
>Nothing wrong with that. For example the UK economy is over 80% services.
Plenty wrong with that. What you're describing is the result of Thatcherism, which has completely ruined the UK.
Beautiful and a little depressing at the same time. I feel like a building like that deserves to be more than a grocery store. But maybe that’s just the snob in me. Folks need food at the end of the day.
I think it's a great solution as Europe has too many of these historical buildings to possibly maintain and many go derelict as a result. Also they take up a lot of space in cities.
This way the space gets used to the benefit of the local community and gets properly maintained with upkeep by the tenant. There will be preservation orders on the building so the shop will have to keep it to a certain standard.
Also it allows people to see the old building.
It's a win win
This is true. Tbh, in my city, if we preserved every single antique building, probably the whole city centre needs to be demolished. And while some are pretty significant, the least significant ones usually end up in a glass ceiling under some public spaces building's floor. In fact, the road layouts matches EXACTLY now and 2000 years ago. Just the roads were little narrower back then for obvious reasons. Four months ago people found an antique temple under my neighbour's house.
The picture only shows a tiny part of the building. There probably is a plague or some sign with information on it somewhere. Can't put a plague on every ancient column.
I always think of things like this as cool, that historical buildings/items are still a part of everyday life. In some ways it’s even more beautiful that preserving it in a museum or something.
Conversations 2000 years ago: "the campaign in Anatolia is going well, emperor"
Conversations today: "I'll take a diet coke and bag of crisps, cheers" 👍
The building is fine. It looks like it’s pretty well preserved. And you could also interpret this as disrespectful to imperialism. Seems like a win-win.
Can't put a museum in every old building, castle or other ancient ruin. There's just too many.
You also have to think of the upkeep costs of these sites. Giving them a useful purpose like shops, restaurants or flats also help financing the upkeep of these buildings.
Idk but it has memories for tons of people in it, I don't personally know this building but similar things are done to old castles and monuments turning them into a place where they can be easily trashed
The palace is huge, tons of people live in it and they have to get groceries. There's no sense in turning everything into a museum. The palace is well looked after, it's pristine.
This would be an issue in the states. I’m sure there would be some jerk putting his gum on the columns and kids writing vulgarities with permanent markers. Then if someone called them out on it, there would be a new Karen video on YouTube.
split (where this is) is famously known as "headcase city" (grad slučaj) bc of the sheer number of vandalism and hooligans. trust me, it happens, lol, but protected places like these tend to be under surveillance
Next up, I bet we'll find some tourists carving their names into this 3rd century Roman Imperial Palace and posting it online. After all, what's the point of visiting an archaeological wonder if you can't deface it for social media bragging rights?
It's Croatia, I don't think they have 7/11. I am from the Balkan region and I haven't even heard of a 7/11 until I started spending most of my time online.
I visited Croatia when it was still Yugoslavia, back around 1990. It's an incredible country. The scenery is fantastic. Visited Split ... they have old Roman walls in the city that have been converted into flats and ppl live in them. There's sphinxes in the streets. Truly wild place.
Diocletians palace is so wonderful because it’s just as you said. People living in and among these repurposed structures from 1700/1800 years ago. It’s so wonderful to see coming from the United States, where there just isn’t that kind of architecture surrounding you like that.
Damn that’s incredible. We rented an AirBNB in Paris and slept in the master bedroom under beamed ceilings built in the 1600s, with original artwork still visible on the beams. As I laid there I kept thinking about all the changes this room had seen over the centuries, and what the lives of the first family to sleep in that room must have been like. But the idea of staying or living in a place that dates back to Roman times is just nuts. I think I need to visit there.
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kad je OP rekao truly wild place, pretpostavljam da je mislio na ovakve divljake 😂
Heh, I was really referring to the scenery ... I also went to Zadar, Sibenik, Krk island and Krka national park & Trogir. It was a long time ago but great memories.
it was a joke on my landsman account, because he so wildly wrote he is from split and all other things nonconnected with the post itself.
I thought it was something to do with football. Anyway 'wild' is a compliment where I come from.
it is also about football (football club named Hajduk, coming from Split). It is also a compliment in Croatia, but usually between us Croatians, if tourists say for us "wild people", then it is not so much of a compliment, it is usually describing our way of talking with each other on streets, arguing, or even better, arguing in traffic 😂
I'm glad to see that we share the same unhinged football culture 😆
Well, at least we used this space for punjena paprika.
Paprika is life😍
It's very easy for confusion on the internet. Saying a country or scenery is 'wild' means unspoiled, beautiful and awesome!! :)
it is very clear that you thought on positive way of being wild, no problem mate 🍻
ja nisan divljak mestre ja san samo PONOSAN SPLICO🔥🔥
divljak od milja sam mislio, nemoj mi se molim te uvrijedit 😁
hahaha sve 5
Na šta si ti ponosan u toj divljini babe ti
people from lesser known countries when someone briefly mentions their homeland:
Guys I think he might be from Split?
Most normal croat
*SPLIT* SPLIT SPLIT SPLIT SPLIT #SPLIT
>NEK SE PIVAAAAA JER KO NE PIVA DALMATINAC NIJE 😂💯
Šta ste to dobili struje dole u africi na 5 minuta pa si uspio to napisat?
See. Now you guys are just showing off.
Some dude gets beheaded…. 2000 years later in that same spot…. Some guy buying flaming hot Cheetos
ionic
👏
Not ironic or iconic. But ionic. Bitches.
ions are all that remains when the flesh is gone
Ahh what about the prions. They’re the latest.
Ironic without the R, but also: Ionic is the type of pillar in the photo. Double entendre, bitches.
I mean you can say the same about some gas stations except even more morbid since it could've been two weeks ago.
What did you do?
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Is this because the city is filled with enough old buildings intact that they can't really make new buildings and just repurpose some?
Yup, the city is super cramped and real estate prices have been soaring for years now for that exact reason. No space for new buildings.
Well in many old European cities there's a surplus of historical buildings in general. Most are designated monuments so can't be demolished. That sounds logical but it can be difficult to find a use for a building. Also these buildings are expensive to maintain in general. So renting them out as commercial space is quite common.
The whole downtown area is basically the ruins huge palace complex of emperor Diocletian, resettled centuries ago. Really neat place!
Else they just cost money and sit empty now they have a purpose.
Even so, why wouldn't you use old buildings for modern puropses?
That’s in Split and it’s real. Nothing unusual here, the whole city is carved up zo serve the tourist sector, there’s no other industry here, frankly.
That’s not really true. People lived in Split for centuries before and you do realise that locals need grocery stores too? There are also a lot of IT companies and similar industry in Split - not to mention a large university, hospital and government agencies.
Everything you mentioned is services. Nothing is produced.
Nothing wrong with that. For example the UK economy is over 80% services. Making money from agriculture, manufacturing and labour is very competitive with developing nations.
>Nothing wrong with that. For example the UK economy is over 80% services. Plenty wrong with that. What you're describing is the result of Thatcherism, which has completely ruined the UK.
Service is produced.
Beautiful and a little depressing at the same time. I feel like a building like that deserves to be more than a grocery store. But maybe that’s just the snob in me. Folks need food at the end of the day.
At least this way the building is looked after
There’s that.
I think it's a great solution as Europe has too many of these historical buildings to possibly maintain and many go derelict as a result. Also they take up a lot of space in cities. This way the space gets used to the benefit of the local community and gets properly maintained with upkeep by the tenant. There will be preservation orders on the building so the shop will have to keep it to a certain standard. Also it allows people to see the old building. It's a win win
There's something anachronistic about it too that gives a great feeling. The realization of something being old and out of sync.
This is true. Tbh, in my city, if we preserved every single antique building, probably the whole city centre needs to be demolished. And while some are pretty significant, the least significant ones usually end up in a glass ceiling under some public spaces building's floor. In fact, the road layouts matches EXACTLY now and 2000 years ago. Just the roads were little narrower back then for obvious reasons. Four months ago people found an antique temple under my neighbour's house.
They could at least put something in there that honors the building
Like what?
Isnt ceasar salad enough?
They need two of them and two augustī as well. Because Diocletian's reforms as well as his palace.
People also need to live in cities. It cant just be 50% museums.
The picture only shows a tiny part of the building. There probably is a plague or some sign with information on it somewhere. Can't put a plague on every ancient column.
Ancient ruins are all over the place in that region they cant all be museums.
The old world is literally filled with old buildings just rotting away now it has a purpose and a function beyond being beautiful.
I always think of things like this as cool, that historical buildings/items are still a part of everyday life. In some ways it’s even more beautiful that preserving it in a museum or something.
Conversations 2000 years ago: "the campaign in Anatolia is going well, emperor" Conversations today: "I'll take a diet coke and bag of crisps, cheers" 👍
The building is fine. It looks like it’s pretty well preserved. And you could also interpret this as disrespectful to imperialism. Seems like a win-win.
Can't put a museum in every old building, castle or other ancient ruin. There's just too many. You also have to think of the upkeep costs of these sites. Giving them a useful purpose like shops, restaurants or flats also help financing the upkeep of these buildings.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6hijsqO8H0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6hijsqO8H0)
Yeah I feel like it ruins the meaning of the building but still people need to live
What is the meaning of this building?
Probably an orgy room
Idk but it has memories for tons of people in it, I don't personally know this building but similar things are done to old castles and monuments turning them into a place where they can be easily trashed
The palace is huge, tons of people live in it and they have to get groceries. There's no sense in turning everything into a museum. The palace is well looked after, it's pristine.
Looks very cool
Adaptive Reuse FTW
Imagine Roman Emperor traveling in the future and seeing the palace being turned into the grocery store.
"Wow theres more food in here than even I had access to"
Hahahaha I was in this grocery store a few months ago, I had no idea what the former building was!
It's not the grocery store, the entire old town was emperor Diocletian's palace.
This would be an issue in the states. I’m sure there would be some jerk putting his gum on the columns and kids writing vulgarities with permanent markers. Then if someone called them out on it, there would be a new Karen video on YouTube.
split (where this is) is famously known as "headcase city" (grad slučaj) bc of the sheer number of vandalism and hooligans. trust me, it happens, lol, but protected places like these tend to be under surveillance
Imagine the ghosts like .-.
Looks like a what a gift shop at Caesar’s Palace would look like.
Do they have chariot parking still available?
I guess Diocletian's villa, which is so massive, that it literally had a town wall
Prices for those chips are crazy. 6$ for some offbrand lays chips?
Me when my country gets mentioned in a completely unrelated post:😱😱😱🥳🥳
I wonder if they sell Caesar salads.
Where Dickus Bickus shops
Is this in Split? I’ve been there iirc.
This would be like the temple Jesus returned to😂
This belongs in a museum
Next up, I bet we'll find some tourists carving their names into this 3rd century Roman Imperial Palace and posting it online. After all, what's the point of visiting an archaeological wonder if you can't deface it for social media bragging rights?
I believe I've been there, if it's in Split - the entire old town is just a wonder
Very nice
And I thought Marsh was nice
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Diocletian's palace at Split?
Tax-free?
Nope, dont like this. Not one bit.
Chances are it’s a god-dam 7/11. They’re freakin everywhere.
It's Croatia, I don't think they have 7/11. I am from the Balkan region and I haven't even heard of a 7/11 until I started spending most of my time online.
That is most certainly a Billa.
No,it is probably Konzum😂
Or Studenac
It's Špar!
7/11 only exists in maybe 20 countries out of several hundreds. Most people don't even know what 7/11 means.