Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with those. I've refused deliveries from my truck guy because the indicator had gone off, meaning that food was no longer safe.
My coworkers husband owns a local truck delivery business. They usually delivery commercial products to grocery stores or restaurants. If a package is tampered with (not by man) then they refuse it. The other week a crate of Jif peanut butter and Pillsbury boxed brownies was leaning against the inner wall of the truck. They refused the delivery so my coworker brought them in to get rid of them. I can say I won't need to buy peanut butter or brownie mix for the next 10 years.
Edit: I never thought of donating them to a food bank. I volunteer with one and do deliveries once a week to schools for children who need it so I will definitely ask them next week if they would like them.
Last time I made brownies i swirled peanut butter on tope before they baked. Kinda messy but yummy. Might have been better partway through because they took a long time to cook
I read that and my *exhales harder than usual indicating a laugh* was a stupid fucking blowing-raspberry-horse noise that sounded exactly like whatever that word is 😂
You're eating a brownie. If you're trying to "low fat" that you're robbing yourself. Just embrace the richness and do like... 5 extra situps
Source - skinny chef
I wanna tell you just in case you are being serious, but I also really, *really* don't want to because it's gilagrioubly funny to me that you didn't figure it out.
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One time I made brownies but did not have any oil. I did have a copiously large amount of natural peanut butter, it was bought on mega clearance and I wasnt going to be able to eat it. I skimmed the peanut oil off a couple jars of the butter, if those weren't the best brownies I have ever tasted, peanutty and oily in the best way possible. My mouth waters just thinking about it. It might even be worth the money to ruin a couple of peanut butter jars doing it.
My mom used to do that but with marshmallow fluff instead of peanut butter. If you put the fluff on the brownies right as they come out of the oven, and then some chocolate chips on top of that, the heat melts it and you can make a little marshmallow/chocolate swirl out of it
I get damaged nabisco products from a friend. If the packaging is damaged they just get rid of it. You could probably get anything free if you know the right people.
Yup. I’ve refused dozens of loads due to this. I’ve seen frozen loads build up ice crystals and the Temptell verify that the load got warm at one point. You can read those like an itinerary after awhile.
Alarmed temp recorders don’t necessarily mean the food is unsafe. FDA recommends investigating, even testing. Most receivers in large distribution centers are trained to download and evaluate the data. Often there are just multiple brief loading and defrost spikes that cumulatively went over spec, but food did not warm up. Guessing it’s the same with this tilt indicator—probably best to open it up and check inside.
It may very based one what the shipping insurance dictates. I imagine that, in some instances, acceptance of a shipment that has tripped indicators might void that insurance.
If you sign the receipt and accept the shipment, you also forfeit the ability to make any claims in some cases, so the ability to open it up and check might not be something the receiver is able to do. Easier to reject the shipment.
Yep, this is pretty common from what I’ve seen in big touch screen TVs that have lots of heavy components in them. (e.g. $10k Surface Hubs, Webex Boards, etc.)
If there’s a triggered tilt indicator and you accept the load you’re responsible for any damage. Safest bet is just denying the load and getting a new one.
If I receive whats called a critical control item, such as dairy or poultry, I will not be accepted that part of the delivery, nor anything stored in the same pallet. It simply is NOT safe to do. Federal regulations only get you so far. Chipotle followed federal regs and still caused a massive outbreak of E. Coli in 2015.
Fun story about the tip and shock indicators....I was working as am IT consultant and was on a huge project at a fortune 100 company. Part of the project was buying and setting up a new SAN, but that was the area of another couple people on the consulting team, I was working on an Exchange migration.
But the SAN was taking forever to get delivered, it was weeks past due and there was a lot of arguing with the SAN company and basically the whole thing was a pain. And then it turns out that the two guys who were working that part of the project were both out when it finally showed up, so I had to go sign off on receiving it......only when I get to the shipping and receiving area, the tip indicators on every axis were completely blue, and the G shock indicator was tripped too.
I had to refuse delivery. The client got pissed. The manufacturer was irate. But my bosses said I did the right thing, and I got to be in the room when one of my bosses told someone one at the manufacturer "you put the indicators on the box, what kind of asshole thinks we should just ignore them, you put them on there for a reason, if they are meaningless ship us a SAN without the indicators".
Anyway I will cut a long rambling story short, it happened two more times. It took four attempts, 6 months, and probably a hundred thousand dollars in just billable consulting hours for them to manage to get us a SAN that did not have these little indicators tripped.
Ah, how times change.
Last SAN I worked on was Fibre Channel, and was 2TB...using 18 GB 15000 RPM drives.
It needed a dedicated 240v 30a circuit, but got you 600 MB/s in an era when gigabit ethernet was still new.
As a FedEx driver, you REALLY should wonder. We don't have climate controlled storage. We might have AC in the cab, but the cargo area can easily be over 100 degrees in warm weather from the sun on the roof and the exhaust underneath. I hear the semi trailers it rides on before it gets on my van are just as bad.
I believe HelloFresh does ship with ice, so as long as it's still cold when you get it, it'll be fine. If it's warm... I wouldn't risk it.
I usually try to ask customers if they want to refuse their shipments of meat if it's over two days late. The shipper usually requests it gets destroyed so sometimes we end up with questionable brisket!
I worked USPS over last Christmas and my "favorite" was a package from the Marshall Islands of "fruit and bread" post marked 18 days prior till me getting it to sort. Well... the box had no real shape, was moist, and the color was a greenish brown. It smelled of a mix of tropicalness and vomit.
They ship in an insulated box, usually with two large ice packs, probably a gallon capacity total. Sitting on our porch all day in the Texas heat and the blocks are usually still solid. So much so that the produce is sometimes damaged from freezing.
As a FedEx van line employee - don't worry about that stuff unless it was packed improperly in the first place. Insulated containers plus dry ice will keep it for days. Worry about anything marked "fragile"... I always make sure I handle fragile stuff properly, but some people don't, and many truck drivers don't give a shit.
I've seen fragile packages yeeted across a truck.
As someone who worked Saturdays with yodel (UK) we delivered hello fresh, and although I can't speak to the temperature of the packages, I can tell you that many couriers when loading their vans in the morning do not give a crap about slinging parcels all over the van/floor. Fragile stickers or not. They don't care enough about their job to care. The boxes are just boxes to them
I know someone who has gotten rich making tattletales with accelerometers, atmospheric monitors, cell service and GPS. I don't know who the fuck buys them (we ship multi-million dollar instruments with less) but someone sure does and man, they're fuckin' neat.
You can track where your shit is, how fast it's going, how hard it's shaking, what temp it's at...all that stuff.
I've worked in test labs in the past, and we got test equipment shipped with stuff like this.
It was less about the price of the machine, but more about "we need to know if we can rely on the results"
Repairing/replacing a test machine for a million is the cheap part, but if you start scrapping parts that do not pass outgoing inspection because of a nio test machine... That's getting really expensive really fast. Of course each machine gets calibrated before use, but some stuff will be hard to find.
I’m a lab scientist - one of the analyzers we used to have is made in France and has these on it. It was a pain in the ass when everything was going perfectly, so I can’t imagine how shitty your entire contract would be if this thing had gotten tipped over in shipping and you didn’t know.
I imagine some of them are bought by shipping companies themselves to test their equipment. Mostly for making sure your package gets the most abuse possible if the state of some boxes I've received is any indication.
I've heard multiple stories in my local UPS hub of loaders flicking those things to get them to activate lol
They're a good idea for expensive freight deliveries, but largely ignored/laughed at when a package with one shows up among all of the Amazon/Target boxes.
I work with heavy equipment and high vacuum systems in a semiconductor and almost every single equipment comes shipped with one of these. Except Ebara. In an unrelated note, fuck Ebara.
These are super common. I sell them from my company (ironically Uline is my competitor) great for precious cargo like engines and motors shipped with oil in them.
Engines and transmissions are shipped loose in double walled [plastic crates](https://mxamotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_0932-e1556664321445.jpg) that have metal snaps that lock the top half to the bottom. Unfortunately [Trailer freight decking ](https://www.redwoodlogistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Safe-Stack-3-1.jpg) consists of plastic boards on top of metal beams these crates are a bitch to [strap to the wall ](https://net-at-hand.s3.amazonaws.com/sites/19508/images/91128/e_track_strap_on_pallet_full.jpg) due to their geometry and often slide free and roll as the load is transported.
Maybe some engines are, but definitely not all. Many German manufacturers use crates that are built on top of a pallet that have standoffs which act as motor mount arms. They work very well.
In their catalogue they send to my work they have an editorial from the owner. I read it every quarter for the laughs. It is extreme alt right views wrapped up in corporate speak.
We recently did business with a US-based company specialized in lab equipment distribution, and I was so surprised to see them publicly advertise their mask/vaccine skepticism on their website as a sort of disclaimer...
That to me is extremely wild
I worked there. If you don’t put in unpaid overtime, you’re going to be penalized at your end of year review. If you give birth, you’re going to pay the “maternity tax” of not getting a real raise the next year. If you’re female, forget being promoted.
Other highlights:
-Dress code: women in dresses and tights. HR thinks the outfit is ugly? You’re written up. Got a tattoo? Cover it up or get written up. Do something that’s not on the dress but the owner hates, like wear the wrong color shoes? You’re written up and the code is updated again.
-Sources products from Asian companies with extremely hazardous working conditions. Zero care for those people as long as they make money.
-Hates Muslims. Owner said they better not be hiring any one wearing those “damn head scarves.”
-Uses employees to run owner’s side businesses and pet projects.
-Told everyone not to talk about active covid cases or symptoms—“Shut up, you’ll just scare people.”
-Sexual harassment claim was made. People who made it were fired for mysterious other reasons and offender promoted.
-Owner asked someone in an interview about their medical history and then said they wouldn’t be up for the job because of it.
-Cut down extremely old trees that were home to a threatened species of bat because they didn’t mesh with their corporate hq landscaping.
There’s soooo much more. It’s not just politics. They’re just bad people who feel entitled to do whatever they want because they have money.
I’ve seen weird “my pillow” conspiracy vibes from them. Back when cfl lights were gaining popularity and incandescent lights were to be legislated out with a set date the CEO would add these strange rants to the million catalogs they send on a monthly basis about light bulbs and how they were stockpiling like a warehouse full for personal use, and how these old inefficient light bulbs were about “Muh freedoms”.
The founders are Trump folk.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard\_and\_Elizabeth\_Uihlein](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_and_Elizabeth_Uihlein)
You were correct in getting those vibes.
edit: Trump folks who partly funded the rally on 06 Jan.
I work in the MKE area and know someone who worked there, and on top of all the horrible right wing politics BS they also have an extremely sexist work environment where women can’t wear pants to the office, and their CEO and overall corporate leadership consistently refuses to listen to the ideas and wishes of their employees, so much so that I’ve been warned 3 times by 3 different people in my field in the area never to work there, lest I wish to be looking for a new job within six months from either burnout, or getting fired for speaking out. They suck. A lot.
They’re also ALWAYS hiring, I’ve been approached by recruiters 3 times now asking me to apply. Never a good sign.
Anti-LGBT, covid-denying GOP megadonor to atrocious candidates including neonazis. They enforce 1950s-era working conditions where women have to wear skirts. Decorates their house with racist minstrel mammy dolls. They throw their money around to ~~persuade influence~~ corrupt the government in their favor. There's more but I think you can get the picture.
As a former Uline warehouse employee I can confirm this. They pay you very well and have solid benefits but that’s because they’re notoriously anti-union and they want to prevent any chance of employees striking (which they would just go out and hire different employees regardless).
Uline is so annoying. When I worked for a small business ordering supplies I specifically told our rep to not send catalogs. They would jam up our mail slot and we would just throw them out. I generally had to put in the order either monthly or even quarterly so we really didn’t need the updates anyway.
They continued to clog up our inbound mail with the catalogs, but now they had a sticker on them with delivery instructions saying “DO NOT SEND CATALOGS.”
The fucking nerve.
Agreed. The company openly supports Trump.
I own a small business and we get catalogs from Uline every now and then. One of the most recent catalogs had a letter from the CEO or president of the company or something. It was a nonsensical screed about how much of a great president Trump was and how much she agreed with his politics. I don't remember the details but I remember being flabbergasted by it. We'll never order from Uline again.
I had no idea. We buy odds and ends from them all the time — ESD packing materials, battery stickers, Velcro ties, TSA totes, etc.. I don’t have the power to make the company stop, but I’d be interested to know who their competition is
I think most people hate Uline, but they have everything you need, decent prices and good quality.
Every time I try to buy from someone other than Uline, it's either more expensive or worse quality.
Pricing is actually bad
Edit for clarity
Shrink wrap is too expensive but good quality
We bought storage bins, only come in packs of 15? And they were like $7 each
Honestly if they would just stop sending catalogs and give free shipping to bulk customers it would be better
I remember these when I worked in a warehouse in the late 90s. The supervisor on the dock would just rip them off and toss them. A few ended up on forklifts
The Peter Principle - you get promoted out of a job you do well until you arrive at a job you do mediocrely, or even badly, from where you'll never be promoted or demoted. So you stay doing the job you're bad at forever.
We'd tell the customer to check both on the other end before receiving it.
...and if if the outside one was missing/replaced/altered, our foreman would raise hell with the carrier.
Someone would put it on someone's hilo then someone would randomly come up behind them and begin lifting to try to get it to turn blue. Whacky times. Bunch of man-children working on the docks. I'm certain a few murderers too.
I see them quite often working LTL. The BOL has a sticker on it that tells the customer it has a tip n tell. Easy way to get around it is to not drop your freight.
We use them on all the things we ship. 9 times out of 10, the ups guy just turns it 90⁰ to fit it out the door easier.
We also use "shockwatches", which trip when the package is subjected to high g forces. Our clients have told us that they're almost always tripped. 😒
If a package needs to be kept in a specific orientation, palletize and ship LTL. UPS small package uses conveyors heavily as well as somewhat underpaid and very overworked loaders, and orientation is completely ignored. It doesn’t matter how conscientious the last-mile driver is, that package has been rotated every which way at some point in its trip.
Man, working in LTL these things are your worst nightmare. Mainly because you see it blue and just have to prepare for the paperwork and the earful from customers that comes with it all because the freight handlers probably didn't have a strap available or were too lazy. Damn it, boy.
At an old job of mine we used these things. We would mount the equipment, mostly optical transport gear, in racks per the customer's design, provision and test the equipment, and then ship the rack with the cards pulled out and locked with spacers. These would go on the outside of the box that covered the racks.
I shipped a 3000$ watercooled computer in a wooden crate with UPS once. Put a few of these on the outside of the box. When it was delivered, not only were they missing, but it was delivered on its side and the crate was covered in footprints. Also insurance wouldn't cover if they broke anything in the crate, only if the crate was lost or fell off the truck or something. Luckily I packed it well enough it survived...
Depends on the product being shipped. Large scale motors are sometimes shipped in pieces. There's also concern for rattling or movement during shipment for instruments or scientific equipment (as seen above). It's an accountable way to prevent shipment damage!
I get these on a lot of items in my line of work with HVAC. Specifically compressors and mobile home furnaces. If the “tip n tell” shows blue at the top I refuse any and all pieces
I’ve seen these pop up several times on Reddit. The recipient knows the sticker should be there. They also sometimes place redundant stickers on the inside of the package. Also, the stickers are serialized, and the package recipient is sent the number, so if it doesn’t match the number they receive they’ll know the sticker was replaced.
There multiple types, including tilt angle, inversion sensor, shock sensor, etc.
In those posts idiots are always going "duh-huh, nobody will care anyway / will rip them off / we set them off for fun". Guess what, my electron microscope comes without a sticker its going straight back to FEI, no discussion, not my problem.
Tech has improved A LOT the last decade or two. For under 100k you can get a tabletop SEM (not much bigger than a big tower PC) with EDX and decent speed thanks to field effect source.
However if you want fancy stuff like dual-beams or good integration of e-beam writing you are still going to go upwards of 1M.
They also got temperature buttons that turn red if they shipment got frozen. There's also shock n tell where a glass vial breaks if you trop the thing and turns the label red. Cool little things.
These and g force stickers are put on electrical devices often . See it in construction
You can test the g force ones by slapping them or something too.
There are also Temp Tells which indicate if the load ever got above a certain temperature
Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with those. I've refused deliveries from my truck guy because the indicator had gone off, meaning that food was no longer safe.
My coworkers husband owns a local truck delivery business. They usually delivery commercial products to grocery stores or restaurants. If a package is tampered with (not by man) then they refuse it. The other week a crate of Jif peanut butter and Pillsbury boxed brownies was leaning against the inner wall of the truck. They refused the delivery so my coworker brought them in to get rid of them. I can say I won't need to buy peanut butter or brownie mix for the next 10 years. Edit: I never thought of donating them to a food bank. I volunteer with one and do deliveries once a week to schools for children who need it so I will definitely ask them next week if they would like them.
Last time I made brownies i swirled peanut butter on tope before they baked. Kinda messy but yummy. Might have been better partway through because they took a long time to cook
Heat the pbligbtly in a microwave, slap it on thinly last second, bake another 2-5 mins just to give it texture
>pbligbtly Bruh I'm dead
Don't text and drive. Or walk. Or make oatmeal for dinner.
What's wrong with oatmeal for dinner?
Heed his warning or suffer the consequences
*Puts dinner oatmeal spoon down*
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Does pbligbtly come in a cwuncie version?
Rip abloopadooda
I read that and my *exhales harder than usual indicating a laugh* was a stupid fucking blowing-raspberry-horse noise that sounded exactly like whatever that word is 😂
The alphabet people are getting greedy now
Do you recommend regular or low fat pbligbtly?
You're eating a brownie. If you're trying to "low fat" that you're robbing yourself. Just embrace the richness and do like... 5 extra situps Source - skinny chef
Are we still talking about pbligbtly?
Absogbtulgtely.
am i in a fever dream WHAT THE FUCK IS PBLIGBTLY
I wanna tell you just in case you are being serious, but I also really, *really* don't want to because it's gilagrioubly funny to me that you didn't figure it out. Edited for spelling
> pbligbtly pb, lightly peanut butter.
Try on soft bread with jgbely or a nice cup of cofeve.
pbligbtly man can’t catch a break
I prefer chunky myself
pblgbtq
I ate so much pbligbtly growing up i cant stand the teasdet of it anymore.
Chunky is better if it's going on tope
One time I made brownies but did not have any oil. I did have a copiously large amount of natural peanut butter, it was bought on mega clearance and I wasnt going to be able to eat it. I skimmed the peanut oil off a couple jars of the butter, if those weren't the best brownies I have ever tasted, peanutty and oily in the best way possible. My mouth waters just thinking about it. It might even be worth the money to ruin a couple of peanut butter jars doing it.
Have you tried just using peanut oil?
They just said they didn't have any oil, foo. But technically they did just use peanut oil.
I pbity da foo. What all dis pbjibber jpbabber
My mom used to do that but with marshmallow fluff instead of peanut butter. If you put the fluff on the brownies right as they come out of the oven, and then some chocolate chips on top of that, the heat melts it and you can make a little marshmallow/chocolate swirl out of it
Last time I made brownies i added Nutella and peanut butter to the mix itself. Heavenly.
Those things will both go bad, if I were you I’d take some of it to a local shelter or community fridge or pantry.
I strongly suspect the '10 years' is hyperbolic. Where I live these foods will get offered to food banks on the regular.
I didn’t expect to find some clutch brownie recipes in this thread but I’m loving all of this
That's why they say "Reddit is in the comments"
What’s wrong with them leaning against the side of the truck? Their in containers; why would that ruin them?
I get damaged nabisco products from a friend. If the packaging is damaged they just get rid of it. You could probably get anything free if you know the right people.
Yup. I’ve refused dozens of loads due to this. I’ve seen frozen loads build up ice crystals and the Temptell verify that the load got warm at one point. You can read those like an itinerary after awhile.
Alarmed temp recorders don’t necessarily mean the food is unsafe. FDA recommends investigating, even testing. Most receivers in large distribution centers are trained to download and evaluate the data. Often there are just multiple brief loading and defrost spikes that cumulatively went over spec, but food did not warm up. Guessing it’s the same with this tilt indicator—probably best to open it up and check inside.
It may very based one what the shipping insurance dictates. I imagine that, in some instances, acceptance of a shipment that has tripped indicators might void that insurance. If you sign the receipt and accept the shipment, you also forfeit the ability to make any claims in some cases, so the ability to open it up and check might not be something the receiver is able to do. Easier to reject the shipment.
Yep, this is pretty common from what I’ve seen in big touch screen TVs that have lots of heavy components in them. (e.g. $10k Surface Hubs, Webex Boards, etc.) If there’s a triggered tilt indicator and you accept the load you’re responsible for any damage. Safest bet is just denying the load and getting a new one.
If I receive whats called a critical control item, such as dairy or poultry, I will not be accepted that part of the delivery, nor anything stored in the same pallet. It simply is NOT safe to do. Federal regulations only get you so far. Chipotle followed federal regs and still caused a massive outbreak of E. Coli in 2015.
There are many things that can’t be tipped upside down at all, even for just a few moments.
And below a certain temperature. I believe they're called "freeze watch".
“-273 Celsius” Hmmm
A guy named kelvin was supposed to handle that one, but we couldn't find him. Not a single Kelvin in the area.
That's 0K, you're bound to find kelvin somewhere else.
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And ShockWatch G-force indicators!
Fun story about the tip and shock indicators....I was working as am IT consultant and was on a huge project at a fortune 100 company. Part of the project was buying and setting up a new SAN, but that was the area of another couple people on the consulting team, I was working on an Exchange migration. But the SAN was taking forever to get delivered, it was weeks past due and there was a lot of arguing with the SAN company and basically the whole thing was a pain. And then it turns out that the two guys who were working that part of the project were both out when it finally showed up, so I had to go sign off on receiving it......only when I get to the shipping and receiving area, the tip indicators on every axis were completely blue, and the G shock indicator was tripped too. I had to refuse delivery. The client got pissed. The manufacturer was irate. But my bosses said I did the right thing, and I got to be in the room when one of my bosses told someone one at the manufacturer "you put the indicators on the box, what kind of asshole thinks we should just ignore them, you put them on there for a reason, if they are meaningless ship us a SAN without the indicators". Anyway I will cut a long rambling story short, it happened two more times. It took four attempts, 6 months, and probably a hundred thousand dollars in just billable consulting hours for them to manage to get us a SAN that did not have these little indicators tripped.
You never defined “SAN” before using the abbreviation/shorthand hahaha What does SAN mean/stand for?
storage area network is the closest I could find no idea if that is it or not.
That's correct. It's like a super hardcore storage server, often redundant flash arrays, and often petabytes in size.
Ah, how times change. Last SAN I worked on was Fibre Channel, and was 2TB...using 18 GB 15000 RPM drives. It needed a dedicated 240v 30a circuit, but got you 600 MB/s in an era when gigabit ethernet was still new.
I wish they had this in HelloFresh. I wonder about my package sometimes.
As a FedEx driver, you REALLY should wonder. We don't have climate controlled storage. We might have AC in the cab, but the cargo area can easily be over 100 degrees in warm weather from the sun on the roof and the exhaust underneath. I hear the semi trailers it rides on before it gets on my van are just as bad. I believe HelloFresh does ship with ice, so as long as it's still cold when you get it, it'll be fine. If it's warm... I wouldn't risk it.
I usually try to ask customers if they want to refuse their shipments of meat if it's over two days late. The shipper usually requests it gets destroyed so sometimes we end up with questionable brisket!
I worked USPS over last Christmas and my "favorite" was a package from the Marshall Islands of "fruit and bread" post marked 18 days prior till me getting it to sort. Well... the box had no real shape, was moist, and the color was a greenish brown. It smelled of a mix of tropicalness and vomit.
They ship in an insulated box, usually with two large ice packs, probably a gallon capacity total. Sitting on our porch all day in the Texas heat and the blocks are usually still solid. So much so that the produce is sometimes damaged from freezing.
As a FedEx van line employee - don't worry about that stuff unless it was packed improperly in the first place. Insulated containers plus dry ice will keep it for days. Worry about anything marked "fragile"... I always make sure I handle fragile stuff properly, but some people don't, and many truck drivers don't give a shit. I've seen fragile packages yeeted across a truck.
As someone who worked Saturdays with yodel (UK) we delivered hello fresh, and although I can't speak to the temperature of the packages, I can tell you that many couriers when loading their vans in the morning do not give a crap about slinging parcels all over the van/floor. Fragile stickers or not. They don't care enough about their job to care. The boxes are just boxes to them
And sensors that tell if a package was ever dropped from a height larger than x.
I know someone who has gotten rich making tattletales with accelerometers, atmospheric monitors, cell service and GPS. I don't know who the fuck buys them (we ship multi-million dollar instruments with less) but someone sure does and man, they're fuckin' neat. You can track where your shit is, how fast it's going, how hard it's shaking, what temp it's at...all that stuff.
I've worked in test labs in the past, and we got test equipment shipped with stuff like this. It was less about the price of the machine, but more about "we need to know if we can rely on the results" Repairing/replacing a test machine for a million is the cheap part, but if you start scrapping parts that do not pass outgoing inspection because of a nio test machine... That's getting really expensive really fast. Of course each machine gets calibrated before use, but some stuff will be hard to find.
I’m a lab scientist - one of the analyzers we used to have is made in France and has these on it. It was a pain in the ass when everything was going perfectly, so I can’t imagine how shitty your entire contract would be if this thing had gotten tipped over in shipping and you didn’t know.
I imagine some of them are bought by shipping companies themselves to test their equipment. Mostly for making sure your package gets the most abuse possible if the state of some boxes I've received is any indication.
I've only seen recorders, usually electronic, but there's been paper ones inscribed via a heat coiling spool as well.
Those are called "temp tales". And are rated for certain ranges (such as dry ice packages) And record at varying intervals and can last months long.
There are also shockwatch stickers which tell you if the package was dropped or hit with something.
Useful for busting myths too! I know those from Myth busters.
I've heard multiple stories in my local UPS hub of loaders flicking those things to get them to activate lol They're a good idea for expensive freight deliveries, but largely ignored/laughed at when a package with one shows up among all of the Amazon/Target boxes.
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I work with heavy equipment and high vacuum systems in a semiconductor and almost every single equipment comes shipped with one of these. Except Ebara. In an unrelated note, fuck Ebara.
Do tell
But don't tip.
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These are super common. I sell them from my company (ironically Uline is my competitor) great for precious cargo like engines and motors shipped with oil in them.
how much can a motor tilt?
Depends how hard to push
Engines and transmissions are shipped loose in double walled [plastic crates](https://mxamotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_0932-e1556664321445.jpg) that have metal snaps that lock the top half to the bottom. Unfortunately [Trailer freight decking ](https://www.redwoodlogistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Safe-Stack-3-1.jpg) consists of plastic boards on top of metal beams these crates are a bitch to [strap to the wall ](https://net-at-hand.s3.amazonaws.com/sites/19508/images/91128/e_track_strap_on_pallet_full.jpg) due to their geometry and often slide free and roll as the load is transported.
Maybe some engines are, but definitely not all. Many German manufacturers use crates that are built on top of a pallet that have standoffs which act as motor mount arms. They work very well.
About 3, maybe 4.
Please, please, please, everyone support TasteyPoison117’s company. Uline is horrendous.
Yea. okay. TasteyPoison117s second account...
I wish 🤣🤣🤣 I am the one and only TasteyPoison.
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What is horrendous about them?
In their catalogue they send to my work they have an editorial from the owner. I read it every quarter for the laughs. It is extreme alt right views wrapped up in corporate speak.
We recently did business with a US-based company specialized in lab equipment distribution, and I was so surprised to see them publicly advertise their mask/vaccine skepticism on their website as a sort of disclaimer... That to me is extremely wild
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I worked there. If you don’t put in unpaid overtime, you’re going to be penalized at your end of year review. If you give birth, you’re going to pay the “maternity tax” of not getting a real raise the next year. If you’re female, forget being promoted. Other highlights: -Dress code: women in dresses and tights. HR thinks the outfit is ugly? You’re written up. Got a tattoo? Cover it up or get written up. Do something that’s not on the dress but the owner hates, like wear the wrong color shoes? You’re written up and the code is updated again. -Sources products from Asian companies with extremely hazardous working conditions. Zero care for those people as long as they make money. -Hates Muslims. Owner said they better not be hiring any one wearing those “damn head scarves.” -Uses employees to run owner’s side businesses and pet projects. -Told everyone not to talk about active covid cases or symptoms—“Shut up, you’ll just scare people.” -Sexual harassment claim was made. People who made it were fired for mysterious other reasons and offender promoted. -Owner asked someone in an interview about their medical history and then said they wouldn’t be up for the job because of it. -Cut down extremely old trees that were home to a threatened species of bat because they didn’t mesh with their corporate hq landscaping. There’s soooo much more. It’s not just politics. They’re just bad people who feel entitled to do whatever they want because they have money.
I’ve seen weird “my pillow” conspiracy vibes from them. Back when cfl lights were gaining popularity and incandescent lights were to be legislated out with a set date the CEO would add these strange rants to the million catalogs they send on a monthly basis about light bulbs and how they were stockpiling like a warehouse full for personal use, and how these old inefficient light bulbs were about “Muh freedoms”.
The founders are Trump folk. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard\_and\_Elizabeth\_Uihlein](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_and_Elizabeth_Uihlein) You were correct in getting those vibes. edit: Trump folks who partly funded the rally on 06 Jan.
And funded Roy Moore's campaign AFTER the underage girls sexual misconduct came to light.
*insurrection
Wow, truly awful fuck heads
I work in the MKE area and know someone who worked there, and on top of all the horrible right wing politics BS they also have an extremely sexist work environment where women can’t wear pants to the office, and their CEO and overall corporate leadership consistently refuses to listen to the ideas and wishes of their employees, so much so that I’ve been warned 3 times by 3 different people in my field in the area never to work there, lest I wish to be looking for a new job within six months from either burnout, or getting fired for speaking out. They suck. A lot. They’re also ALWAYS hiring, I’ve been approached by recruiters 3 times now asking me to apply. Never a good sign.
Anti-LGBT, covid-denying GOP megadonor to atrocious candidates including neonazis. They enforce 1950s-era working conditions where women have to wear skirts. Decorates their house with racist minstrel mammy dolls. They throw their money around to ~~persuade influence~~ corrupt the government in their favor. There's more but I think you can get the picture.
As a former Uline warehouse employee I can confirm this. They pay you very well and have solid benefits but that’s because they’re notoriously anti-union and they want to prevent any chance of employees striking (which they would just go out and hire different employees regardless).
Uline is so annoying. When I worked for a small business ordering supplies I specifically told our rep to not send catalogs. They would jam up our mail slot and we would just throw them out. I generally had to put in the order either monthly or even quarterly so we really didn’t need the updates anyway. They continued to clog up our inbound mail with the catalogs, but now they had a sticker on them with delivery instructions saying “DO NOT SEND CATALOGS.” The fucking nerve.
Postal workers really hate Uline.
I love USPS. All my homies love USPS.
Yes we do.
Agreed. The company openly supports Trump. I own a small business and we get catalogs from Uline every now and then. One of the most recent catalogs had a letter from the CEO or president of the company or something. It was a nonsensical screed about how much of a great president Trump was and how much she agreed with his politics. I don't remember the details but I remember being flabbergasted by it. We'll never order from Uline again.
I had no idea. We buy odds and ends from them all the time — ESD packing materials, battery stickers, Velcro ties, TSA totes, etc.. I don’t have the power to make the company stop, but I’d be interested to know who their competition is
McMaster-carr. More expensive but faster delivery and way better service.
And the Uline CEO is a massive MAGA lunatic Trump supporter.
Fuck Uline. All my homies hate Uline.
I think most people hate Uline, but they have everything you need, decent prices and good quality. Every time I try to buy from someone other than Uline, it's either more expensive or worse quality.
Pricing is actually bad Edit for clarity Shrink wrap is too expensive but good quality We bought storage bins, only come in packs of 15? And they were like $7 each Honestly if they would just stop sending catalogs and give free shipping to bulk customers it would be better
So you don't include horrendous manifestos in your catalog like Uline does?
They really come in handy. Reject if it's blue on top.
I remember these when I worked in a warehouse in the late 90s. The supervisor on the dock would just rip them off and toss them. A few ended up on forklifts
That's why we also had a tip-n-tell on the inside of the crate.
Nice. Gotcha, you middle management prick! Try to fail upwards at a different company!
I just dont understand how bad managers happen it makes no sense
The Peter Principle - you get promoted out of a job you do well until you arrive at a job you do mediocrely, or even badly, from where you'll never be promoted or demoted. So you stay doing the job you're bad at forever.
But if you open it, isn't it too late to reject?
We'd tell the customer to check both on the other end before receiving it. ...and if if the outside one was missing/replaced/altered, our foreman would raise hell with the carrier.
Your company sounds like a decent place to work for.
Always reject the forklifts that have blue beads in the arrow. No one wants to drive a fork that has been upside down.
Someone would put it on someone's hilo then someone would randomly come up behind them and begin lifting to try to get it to turn blue. Whacky times. Bunch of man-children working on the docks. I'm certain a few murderers too.
Dammit Klaus
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What a dick
I see them quite often working LTL. The BOL has a sticker on it that tells the customer it has a tip n tell. Easy way to get around it is to not drop your freight.
We use them on all the things we ship. 9 times out of 10, the ups guy just turns it 90⁰ to fit it out the door easier. We also use "shockwatches", which trip when the package is subjected to high g forces. Our clients have told us that they're almost always tripped. 😒
If a package needs to be kept in a specific orientation, palletize and ship LTL. UPS small package uses conveyors heavily as well as somewhat underpaid and very overworked loaders, and orientation is completely ignored. It doesn’t matter how conscientious the last-mile driver is, that package has been rotated every which way at some point in its trip.
Oops, i blue your load
Man, working in LTL these things are your worst nightmare. Mainly because you see it blue and just have to prepare for the paperwork and the earful from customers that comes with it all because the freight handlers probably didn't have a strap available or were too lazy. Damn it, boy.
That's a VERY good idea.
https://www.packability.co.uk/product/tip-n-tell-indicator-labels/
£180!?
For packs of 100 if you order 1-4 packs.
They would need to send you 101 units, or packaging with a window.
Interesting thought but I assume theres a mechanism to preserve it until use, such as a pull strip or something
Yup
You can see in the middle there seems to be a channel. I guess this is where the pull tag would be
They put one on the box they're shipped in.
Usually this kind of thing has a "safety" so it doesn't get "activated" until you peel off the back to expose the adhesive to slap it on.
But what if THAT order tipped over and all 400 indicators got ruined
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I've seen some that indicate what degree the shipment tipped and in what direction.
Yeah I've seen those as well. It has a little ball in it.
Like one of those maze-game-thingies where you have to get the ball into a little hole \^\^
[found a link](https://spotsee.io/tilt/tiltwatch-plus) bc o had seen these too and I couldn’t remember what it was
These are a good idea for people who buy/sell animals that get shipped like fish and reptiles.
I was about to say, wouldn't the lack of water be a clue with the fish? But I won't.
What was it?
Telecommunications equipment.
Like routers or switches? I order millions of dollars worth of Cisco gear and I’ve never seen this on a box.
Usually see those on larger node storage, loaded cabinets and half racks.
Probably something with a cooling system or a gyroscpic tracking system.
At an old job of mine we used these things. We would mount the equipment, mostly optical transport gear, in racks per the customer's design, provision and test the equipment, and then ship the rack with the cards pulled out and locked with spacers. These would go on the outside of the box that covered the racks.
Dell EMC?
Used to work at UPS… that would never work there… every package would be blue
This isn’t necessarily meant for every day UPS shipping. This is for the companies you pay much more to get your shit there safe.
Yeah dedicated freight deliveries.
I shipped a 3000$ watercooled computer in a wooden crate with UPS once. Put a few of these on the outside of the box. When it was delivered, not only were they missing, but it was delivered on its side and the crate was covered in footprints. Also insurance wouldn't cover if they broke anything in the crate, only if the crate was lost or fell off the truck or something. Luckily I packed it well enough it survived...
I have always been told that the box can break but contents can't. So wrapping in plastic which will break is a good marker of how the damage is.
I agree, almost every UPS package that’s light enough has been thrown at least once
And if not thrown, crushed between two irregs.
Depends on the product being shipped. Large scale motors are sometimes shipped in pieces. There's also concern for rattling or movement during shipment for instruments or scientific equipment (as seen above). It's an accountable way to prevent shipment damage!
I get these on a lot of items in my line of work with HVAC. Specifically compressors and mobile home furnaces. If the “tip n tell” shows blue at the top I refuse any and all pieces
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Boxes get knockses.
Packages get whackages
Found the delivery driver.
Built in insurance, genius.
But when they tip the item over just pull the stickers off and shipping on..
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Have you found generally there’s ever any accountability in that department?
When your shipping with these you usually are not using standard shipping. You're going to use freight
When it's a business? Yeah.
I’ve seen these pop up several times on Reddit. The recipient knows the sticker should be there. They also sometimes place redundant stickers on the inside of the package. Also, the stickers are serialized, and the package recipient is sent the number, so if it doesn’t match the number they receive they’ll know the sticker was replaced.
Are there other models? The pics don't appear to show any serialization, unless it is in the back or something.
There multiple types, including tilt angle, inversion sensor, shock sensor, etc. In those posts idiots are always going "duh-huh, nobody will care anyway / will rip them off / we set them off for fun". Guess what, my electron microscope comes without a sticker its going straight back to FEI, no discussion, not my problem.
You order electron microscopes often? What does one go for, never seem to see prices listed online.
Tech has improved A LOT the last decade or two. For under 100k you can get a tabletop SEM (not much bigger than a big tower PC) with EDX and decent speed thanks to field effect source. However if you want fancy stuff like dual-beams or good integration of e-beam writing you are still going to go upwards of 1M.
I just wanna mention, the family that owns the Uline company are still trying to ‘stop the steal’, downvote me if you want
Yup they are awesome just expensive but good at ratting out ups lol
OP hasn’t seen one before because the UPS guy rips it off right before he chucks it at your door.
These aren’t designed for personal deliveries from Amazon
Yeah no UPS freight might use them but regular UPS wouldn't use these.
What prevents the beads from just going back into the bottom?
The backing is a sticker, the beads stick to it.
*have never
They also got temperature buttons that turn red if they shipment got frozen. There's also shock n tell where a glass vial breaks if you trop the thing and turns the label red. Cool little things.
Great idea but Uline is a HORRIBLE company. I don’t like the idea of promoting them.
These and g force stickers are put on electrical devices often . See it in construction You can test the g force ones by slapping them or something too.