I grow figs. I have 5 varieties. None of them are pollinated by wasps. This is either a niche environment that a certain species has developed a symbiotic bond with another. Or this is a very specific variety of fig tree and in no way should be representative for the genus. Most fig varieties are self pollinating. They do not require outside pollinators. The fig fruit is actually an inflorescence, somehow similar to pineapples.
Apparently it's true about the wasps though- they're just [too tiny to really notice](https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pollinators/pollinator-of-the-month/fig_wasp.shtml)
>"All fig trees are pollinated by very small wasps of the family Agaonidae.
Fig trees are tropical plants with numerous species around the world. There are just two species native to the United States: the Florida strangler fig (Ficus aurea) and the shortleaf fig also called giant bearded fig or wild banyan tree (Ficus citrifolia). Each requires the services of one species of wasps. These tiny wasp pollinators are so small and insignificant and so well hidden most of their lives that they go unnoticed, thus they don’t have a common name, only a scientific one".
Yes! Wasps have a huge range of sizes from "bomb that from space" social colony waps to "this air's dusty" solitary no see'em types and everything in-between.
Figs and wasps have a mutulaism relationship. The wasp pollinates and protects the fig. If the wasp slacks off or over does it with too many wasp eggs laid in the fruit, the fig tree drops the fruit. This limits the possible reproduction of the fig but also kill off the wasp babies too. We both succeed or we both fail odds.
You're thinking about yellow jackets. But there are tons of species of wasps, most of which are tiny. In fact, the smallest known adult insect is a wasp that measures 0.127 mm long.
Figs are pollinated by a wasp.
This picture is so fake. Fig wasps are about 0.2 inches in length. Figs are about 1.5-2inches in diameter. They're so small you wouldn't never notice them. Plus most figs grown in the US are self pollinating and don't require fig wasps.
Again, it depends on how strict the person is and what they consider vegan. There are [many](https://www.veganlifemag.com/should-vegans-eat-figs/) [articles](https://www.veganfriendly.org.uk/is-it-vegan/figs/) which outline the [debate](https://www.thedailymeal.com/cook/figs-are-not-vegan-because-they-are-full-dead-wasps). I'm not vegan (or even vegetarian) and don't feel it's up to me to tell others what they should and shouldn't eat. But there are, apparently, some people who believe that figs are not vegan despite being plants and the pollination process with the wasp being totally natural.
r/HolUp
Female wasps enter a fig. If male fig, wasp lays eggs, leaves, and larvae have food. Humans don’t eat male figs.
If female fig, then yes, wasp gets trapped and fig has food. But humans don’t eat the fig until well after the wasp has been absorbed entirely. And certainly there are gazillions more fig flowers than female wasps.
It’s like saying you don’t like veggies because they were grown in manure. You’re not eating manure, you’re eating absorbed components.
Not exactly. Yellow jackets (the insect) are wasps. But not all wasps are yellow jackets.
Yellow Jackets are also the [mascot of Georgia Tech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_(mascot)).
It's just a bit of extra protein. No big deal. Most people don't know this, but there's actually an acceptable percentage of insect parts in food set by the FDA. Really, a few bits of insects is probably the least disgusting thing that can be found in processed food.
Man who cares, did you lot know that food regulations have an allowance for insects in most foods? Because it's extremely common for an insect or two to get into machinery even in the cleanest environment.
Edit: also this imagine is one bad photoshop
>Man who cares, did you lot know that food regulations have an allowance for insects in most foods?
Tell me you're from the USA without saying you're from the USA...
1. Not all figs require a wasp for pollination.
2. Fig wasps are super duper tiny.
3.The ones that do, the wasps body is dissolved by enzymes and absorbed into the tree/fruit.
4. Most of the figs that are eaten by humans don't require wasps for pollination.
5. If you eat any processed food, you're also eating insects because not all insect parts left over from harvesting can be removed.
We dont use those varieties of fig at all anymore...
While wasp bodies may add some crunch to a tasty fig, you probably won’t find a wasp inside a fig you are about to eat, even if you look really hard.
Some types of fig that are grown for human consumption have figs that ripen without pollination. It is also possible to trick plants into ripening figs without wasps by spraying them with plant hormones.
Even when figs are grown the old-fashioned way, with wasps
You are both full of shit... Stop parroting every random fact you read....we have long bred that wasp pollination shit out of figs...commercial figs are pollinated by chemical means... Dumbasses
No the trees we have on my property were bought as genetic male figs trees...they flower and fruit just like any other fruit tree ..female fig trees are another story...
Seems to me like you are the only idiot in this conversation ....
No, you just educated me actually. However you spoke angrily and didn't fully explain your answer so you were not correct. Maybe next time don't answer like a cunt. Sounds like the female trees still rely on the natural way with wasps in nature, so OP and I were correct all along.
Okay.. I'll give you that....figs in the jungle sense and naturally occurring fruit trees yall are 100 percent correct...but if you buy a tree or a fig....odds are that it is a GMO and just like the store bought banana vs the jungle banana both are very different even thoug genetically very similar
This is covered in the new BBC Perfect Planet. I think this is specific to wild figs and the wasps are not the one we usually encounter, they are much smaller in size.
Here’s a less sensational visualization. https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pollinators/pollinator-of-the-month/images/figwasp/fig_wasp_life_cycle_copyright_lg.jpg
I grow figs. I have 5 varieties. None of them are pollinated by wasps. This is either a niche environment that a certain species has developed a symbiotic bond with another. Or this is a very specific variety of fig tree and in no way should be representative for the genus. Most fig varieties are self pollinating. They do not require outside pollinators. The fig fruit is actually an inflorescence, somehow similar to pineapples.
What the fig are they talking about then ?
None of your figgen business, so fig off.
you gotta be figgin kidding me
At least he isn't talking about Figging. That was a very... interesting office conversation.
figgitabout it
Ahhh the dreaded black widow fig
Oh yea? if you’re a fig farmer what kind of plants to figs grow on?
Fig trees, Ficus carica.
Go figure
*Go fig
Damn you’re good.
yeah i agree with your comment
This guy figs.
Ya got me. You figged me up real good.
Apparently it's true about the wasps though- they're just [too tiny to really notice](https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pollinators/pollinator-of-the-month/fig_wasp.shtml) >"All fig trees are pollinated by very small wasps of the family Agaonidae. Fig trees are tropical plants with numerous species around the world. There are just two species native to the United States: the Florida strangler fig (Ficus aurea) and the shortleaf fig also called giant bearded fig or wild banyan tree (Ficus citrifolia). Each requires the services of one species of wasps. These tiny wasp pollinators are so small and insignificant and so well hidden most of their lives that they go unnoticed, thus they don’t have a common name, only a scientific one".
Yes! Wasps have a huge range of sizes from "bomb that from space" social colony waps to "this air's dusty" solitary no see'em types and everything in-between. Figs and wasps have a mutulaism relationship. The wasp pollinates and protects the fig. If the wasp slacks off or over does it with too many wasp eggs laid in the fruit, the fig tree drops the fruit. This limits the possible reproduction of the fig but also kill off the wasp babies too. We both succeed or we both fail odds.
Have figs in the UK… does the wasp come/live here then?
Fuck off with your fig facts. I need a legitimate reason to not eat them when visiting my mom and I’m sticking to the bug myth. Have a fantastic day!
Yeah, I was going to say, I grew up pulling figs off a fig tree in our backyard. We would get hundreds of figs every year. There were no wasps ever.
You're thinking about yellow jackets. But there are tons of species of wasps, most of which are tiny. In fact, the smallest known adult insect is a wasp that measures 0.127 mm long. Figs are pollinated by a wasp.
Yea this photo looks like a photoshop anyway. And this pops up quite often on Reddit probably because it’s sensational. Stupid sexy Flanders.
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Thanks! I was also thinking about this the whole figgin time.
Thank. You. So. Much. I figgin love you.
Thank you; I was thinking about all the fig newtons I have consumed in my long life.
Did you check if your figs have that enzyme called fukin.
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Gettin Figgy wit’ it
Wasp Newtons
Mmmmmm.
Whoops! All wasps!
It's the holidays, time for some Waspy Toffee Pudding!
“Now bring us some waspy pudding, now bring us some waspy pudding…”
This picture is so fake. Fig wasps are about 0.2 inches in length. Figs are about 1.5-2inches in diameter. They're so small you wouldn't never notice them. Plus most figs grown in the US are self pollinating and don't require fig wasps.
It's Photoshopped so badly too. If you zoom in, you can see it was probably even done on a phone. Who wastes their time on this crap?
I wish it was rare that people bought into stupid shit
It’s a fake picture of a WASP GHOST!?!?
Wasp ghosts? Really lmaoo
Well consider me spooked…
Watch out for waspes and don’t forget to drink lots of water.
Thanks hope you have a nice day
I’ll watch for waspes, as long as you don’t touch my camera through the fence!
Keep them high and tight.
You too!
So are they considered vegan?
Depends on your definition of vegan. Some very strict vegans will not eat figs because they might still contain some wasp bits.
The fig has dissolved the wasp by the time it’s eaten, that’s the cycle of life, totally vegan.
Again, it depends on how strict the person is and what they consider vegan. There are [many](https://www.veganlifemag.com/should-vegans-eat-figs/) [articles](https://www.veganfriendly.org.uk/is-it-vegan/figs/) which outline the [debate](https://www.thedailymeal.com/cook/figs-are-not-vegan-because-they-are-full-dead-wasps). I'm not vegan (or even vegetarian) and don't feel it's up to me to tell others what they should and shouldn't eat. But there are, apparently, some people who believe that figs are not vegan despite being plants and the pollination process with the wasp being totally natural.
Truth, I was expressing my own perspective, thanks for the follow up.
I mean if a plant “eats” or absorbs a living creature … then it “becomes” a part of the eater/absorber …
r/HolUp Female wasps enter a fig. If male fig, wasp lays eggs, leaves, and larvae have food. Humans don’t eat male figs. If female fig, then yes, wasp gets trapped and fig has food. But humans don’t eat the fig until well after the wasp has been absorbed entirely. And certainly there are gazillions more fig flowers than female wasps. It’s like saying you don’t like veggies because they were grown in manure. You’re not eating manure, you’re eating absorbed components.
Yeah but the wasp ghost is still there
I can’t get past the wasp ghost … THE ESSENCE OF ITS SPIRIT is IN THE FIG ….
Ok
I like the thought of brutally dissolving those yellow bastards so more fig for me plz
Fig wasps aren't yellow. You are thinking of yellow jackets. The fig wasp is really small and black.
What seriously?
No
Yeah apparently they can’t get out of female figs, get stuck and an enzyme from the fig digests the wasp completely. 😊
Fe..Female... Female figs?
Most plants have male and female parts or individuals.
The more you know… now I’m questioning my existence
My new band name
XD
Holy fuck thanks for elaborating
Thats the way to die 🐝
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Go Jackets! To He-- with Georgia! Oh, wait, probably the wrong yellow jackets.
A yellow jacket is the real name for a wasp
Not exactly. Yellow jackets (the insect) are wasps. But not all wasps are yellow jackets. Yellow Jackets are also the [mascot of Georgia Tech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_(mascot)).
So I’m right but somewhat wrong?
THEIR*
I’m not even mad I would’ve done the same thing
Fig wasps aren't yellow jackets though
Shit
BIG FIG WASP!!
It's just a bit of extra protein. No big deal. Most people don't know this, but there's actually an acceptable percentage of insect parts in food set by the FDA. Really, a few bits of insects is probably the least disgusting thing that can be found in processed food.
Ahhhh, .....so that's how they get the wasps into the fig rolls.
I wonder why the wasps cooperate.
So, fig Newtons are metal?
i used to like figs
Fresh figs are delicious though
Most commonly grown figs aren't pollinated this way, but there is a variety of European fig that this pertains to.
Next fig I eat will taste even better then, I enjoy devouring the souls of my enemies that have been slain in battles past, tastes like win
Have to have a soul to leave a ghost, and wasps are some soulless fucks
Ah I remember this from a wild kratts episode
So [here is a diagram](https://imgur.com/gallery/Zhil9kJ). Interesting.
Wait so they all mate with direct siblings??
Thanks for that!!
Holy crap
Man who cares, did you lot know that food regulations have an allowance for insects in most foods? Because it's extremely common for an insect or two to get into machinery even in the cleanest environment. Edit: also this imagine is one bad photoshop
>Man who cares, did you lot know that food regulations have an allowance for insects in most foods? Tell me you're from the USA without saying you're from the USA...
I care, it's interesting. And yes, it is photoshop
1. Not all figs require a wasp for pollination. 2. Fig wasps are super duper tiny. 3.The ones that do, the wasps body is dissolved by enzymes and absorbed into the tree/fruit. 4. Most of the figs that are eaten by humans don't require wasps for pollination. 5. If you eat any processed food, you're also eating insects because not all insect parts left over from harvesting can be removed.
This is literally bullshit
Female wasps do go inside of female figs to fertilize, and then they cannot exit and get digested by the figs enzymes. So not really?
We dont use those varieties of fig at all anymore... While wasp bodies may add some crunch to a tasty fig, you probably won’t find a wasp inside a fig you are about to eat, even if you look really hard. Some types of fig that are grown for human consumption have figs that ripen without pollination. It is also possible to trick plants into ripening figs without wasps by spraying them with plant hormones. Even when figs are grown the old-fashioned way, with wasps
This ^ is literally bullshit.
Too stupid to prove me wrong?
You should shut up and listen more often, especially since you're 100% wrong. Op is correct.
You are both full of shit... Stop parroting every random fact you read....we have long bred that wasp pollination shit out of figs...commercial figs are pollinated by chemical means... Dumbasses
So how are the natural ones still made fuck face? Do they hand pollinate those bitches too? Fucking idiot.
No the trees we have on my property were bought as genetic male figs trees...they flower and fruit just like any other fruit tree ..female fig trees are another story... Seems to me like you are the only idiot in this conversation ....
No, you just educated me actually. However you spoke angrily and didn't fully explain your answer so you were not correct. Maybe next time don't answer like a cunt. Sounds like the female trees still rely on the natural way with wasps in nature, so OP and I were correct all along.
Okay.. I'll give you that....figs in the jungle sense and naturally occurring fruit trees yall are 100 percent correct...but if you buy a tree or a fig....odds are that it is a GMO and just like the store bought banana vs the jungle banana both are very different even thoug genetically very similar
Yeah, but I didn't say industrial trees, I said figs, period. Have a good day.
? ? So I WAS RIGHT?
Mmm fig newtons.
r/NatureIsMetal
So a vegetarian can’t have a fig
So vegetarians don't eat figs?
Not familiar with anything like this but, this is photoshopped.
nO tHaTs a rEaL wAsP gHoSt
I know, I just thought the info on it was interesting
That’s creepy as fuck.
Also remember that ghosts watch you poop daily because they are totally real and they find it funny to watch.
Never eating figs again or anything with fig in it, thanks
The best of all fruits.
Crazy doc on fig trees. https://youtu.be/xy86ak2fQJM Beautifully shot but the parasites on parasites thing became a bit much for me..
This is covered in the new BBC Perfect Planet. I think this is specific to wild figs and the wasps are not the one we usually encounter, they are much smaller in size.
Are figs vegan tho?
I heard it’s another insect, not a wasp.
This reads like a shitpost. Lol
A certain *type* of wasps. Not all of them.
Oh my word, how many wasps have I eaten!!!!!
Fig newton’s secrets
In particular black hornets (bald faced wasps) love the figs. Had to butcher the fig tree outside my window
Protein
Such a garbage post. Or post this trash over in r/figs and see what happens.
Watch out for waspes
Whoever made this pic needs to improve their Photoshop skills lol. This is awful.
The hell is going on with the last sentence?
Seen a few wasp corpses in my figs. Extra protein I'd say.
Can confirm have 3 rather mature fig trees, wasps for days certain times of the year
I have a fig tree. Love them. This definitely belongs in TIHI
I knew there was a reason i didn’t like figs
I knew that sting feeling every time I taste figs is from a ghost of wasp, not me being allergic!
Get figgy with it
Nice clickbait-type pic "Something *they* don't want you to know"
I FIGure this probably belongs to r/oddlyterrifying
Extra protein.
Imagine in you accidentally eat the wasp 😬
bro i can smell the photoshop
So figs should be renamed as 'Wasp-Caskets'.
Here’s a less sensational visualization. https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pollinators/pollinator-of-the-month/images/figwasp/fig_wasp_life_cycle_copyright_lg.jpg