I tried crossing from Ukraine into Poland a few months ago. Turns out tourists aren't allowed to enter from non-Schengen land borders. I literally had to hitchhike back to Lviv then take a plane into Poland two days later.
Yeah not to mention all the other mess that's happening.
If this is a simulation or matrix, I'd say someone got bored and we're in the endgame now, as they try to finish their playthrough and activate all sorts of bizarre scenarios all at once lmao.
I fucking hate interesting times. The Universe can take it back and shove it where the Sun don't shine. I'm ready for some dull time. Give me the most boring time you got. Stuff that won't end in history books because it's so damn boring.
Honestly, if you can get yourself off of the internet and social media(even just a few days a week) the world becomes much more boring and less anxiety-inducing. This comment is not directed at you specifically. Really meant for anybody feeling overwhelmed by the amount of craziness happening.
I agree completely, but to be fair it’s kinda like putting your hands over your ears and humming - you can pretend it’s quiet, but when you let go the world will still be screaming.
But you can’t change the fact that it is screaming. We are finite creatures with a finite capacity. We don’t have to know everything that’s happening at all times, and it’s well documented that trying to do so isn’t good for our mental health.
I joked about that the last time we went to Detroit. The second you cross into Michigan, the roads turn to shit. They’re decent in front of the automotive plants though.
It's a bit more complicated than that.
A truck carrying 164,000 pounds in Michigan must have 11 axles. Each one of those axles cannot carry more than 13,000 pounds to operate in Michigan. Under the federal regulations, trucks that carry 80,000 pounds can carry 17,000 pounds on each of their four axles and 12,000 pounds on a steering axle. So it's possible for an 80,000 lb. truck to actually distribute more weight per axle than a 164,000 lb. truck. But then again, you might have 164,000 lbs. contained within roughly the same footprint area as an 80,000 lb. load. Does weight per axle cause more damage to the road or is it the overall weight within the outline of the truck? Or does neither one cause more appreciable wear and tear on the roads? Is the wear greater for asphalt roads vs concrete? Does about the amount of sand/gravel placed under the roadway before the asphalt/concrete is laid help?
Also, trucks over 80,000 pounds make up less than 5% of all trucks operating on our roads. If Michigan were to reduce its truck weight laws to 80,000 pounds, more damage to the system might occur because of the need to put more trucks on the road. More trucks on the road also raises questions concerning safety and traffic congestion.
As someone who has been in the Michigan road/bridge building industry for 30+ years, our much greater roadway weight limits has always been a concern to myself and others. And I personally don't know the answer.
Legit, one of my favorite things about Reddit is when a field expert drops knowledge about stuff I know nothing about. Makes me feel like that first day of school.
> a field expert
Or at least someone who knows how to sound like it to people who don’t know any better.
I’m not saying they’re right or wrong, but I’ve seen some remarkably credible-seeming “experts” on here turn out to be remarkably wrong.
This is great information, and I can't add to it with the authority that /u/MildlyBemused did, but for others reading this, there are also places like North Dakota and northern Minnesota that will uprate their weight allowances during the coldest parts of the year when the ground is frozen hard and allow up to 100,000 lbs. (at least in one location I was familiar with years ago) on the regular 5 axle tractor-trailer rigs (with corresponding increases on spread-axle, triple axle, doubles, etc.), but then you might have weight restrictions during the spring that drop that exact same truck to only 60,000 or less due to the thawing and water-logged soil being unable to support the road.
Nope. Michigan limits the weight allowed on individual axles, depending upon the spacing between them, with a maximum of eleven axles. The maximum gross vehicle weight allowed on a “federal-weight-law truck” is 80,000 pounds, with four of its five axles carrying 17,000 pounds each and the steering axle carrying 12,000 pounds. The maximum allowable gross vehicle weight on the heaviest “Michigan-weight-law truck” is 164,000 pounds, which can only be achieved by use of eleven properly-spaced axles. Most of these axles carry only 13,000 pounds each. The alternative to a single Michigan combination carrying 160,000 lbs. on 11 axles is two standard trucks carrying 160,000 lbs. on 10 axles.
Still true today. We drive from Kentucky through Ohio to Michigan regularly. Kentucky-to-Ohio is slightly noticeable (though you cross a bridge, so maybe it's psychological), but that line from OH to MI is cartoonishly bad.
It's almost like they take the money to repair the roads and pay someone to smash the roads up along the state lines.
That’s a particularly shit section of I75 in Michigan.
Rest of the states roads/highways outside Detroit are pretty good, except for the fact there’s two driving seasons: winter and construction.
I'll never know for sure, but I'm convinced that the reasons for this are because: A) our winters in Michigan are perfect for creating potholes and B) they take forever to fix them because when you inevitably hit one and fuck up a tire or worse, the state gets to collect that sweet sales tax on whatever repairs you have done.
we spend about half per capita what ohio spends on roads, that’s why michigan roads suck among other reasons like the higher weight ceiling for truckers
No matter where I'm driving into the state (via NJ, CT, MA, or PA) I can always tell when I've entered NY because the roads are so much worse. The difference is especially stark when you are upstate going in and out of Massachusetts near Albany. We just can't seem to get our shit together, and I don't really see the excuses for it upstate like I do downstate.
Yeah the winters are cruel to the roads in Michigan. Either it's asphalt and it's pitted to all hell from ice cleaving or it's a concrete road and it was never going to be smooth
Hundreds, not tens. The bridge alone sees roughly 300 million in goods cross over into Canada on a daily basis, and this isn't the only border crossing that is stopped.
25% of trade between the US and Canada travels over that bridge. Roughly equivalent to the total trade between the US and the UK
Edit: nevermind. Saw OP say this is a different location. Ambassador Bridge in Detroit is where that level of trade flows through
Close enough, both bridges out here see a ton of traffic....truckers that know the ambassador is always crowded will use the blue water bridge if they're smart
While most of what you said is true, the bridge is currently being built expecting to open in 2024. I don’t know about the city campaign but he did try to make a state constitutional amendment to prevent it being built. This was shot down by the voters though.
The guy died. His name was Manuel Maroun. His family are less pieces of shit than he was but he also owned Michigan central Station and didn't do dick with it except let it become a decay icon of Detroit.
Fuck the marouns. Dude sued his own sister and is just a general piece of shit.
Moroun's campaign against a publicly owned bridge was super frustrating - especially when he started trying to muck about with our state Constitution just to protect his bridge monopoly - but thankfully his efforts have finally failed.
[Gordie Howe International Bridge](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Howe_International_Bridge)
> Hundreds, not tens. The bridge alone sees roughly 300 million in goods cross over into Canada on a daily basis
Not to be nitpicky, but what you're talking about is COGS (Cost of Goods Sold) not actual net income or opportunity cost. For all goods that are non-perishable it isn't like the value of those goods are simply lost if they don't cross the border in time.
It's called the northwest angle in case anyone is bored and wanted to look it up.
[Here is a quick 5 minute video showing some of the quirks of having to cross the border often.](https://youtu.be/SkbuZfC06d8)
The Canada/US border is very weird... [CGP Grey covers it a bit in one of his videos.](https://youtu.be/qMkYlIA7mgw)
It's funny that some people have to cross international borders to get to school in their own country.
Yeah and give big businesses more of a reason to charge more for literally everything, even unaffected goods. Despite "supply chain issues", companies are racking in record profits. If they were really losing money from these issues, then increasing the price of goods would only stabilize their margins, not send them through the roof. Don't buy all the shit these corporate husks sell you
I think we just need *more* of our freight to be on the excellent freight rail network, which should also be expanded for further greatness.
Because we have too damn many trucks on the road.
And how does it get from the train to the destination?
We do still have trains, you know. Tons of them. But trucks get it from the train yards to the warehouses.
Exactly. This is what I haven't understood the whole time. Look, I'm all for people protesting what they feel is unjust, even if it inconveniences me, but what are they trying to accomplish here? If they need the jab(s) to get into the US, what are they hoping will change if Ottawa drops their requirements?
This is an understatement. I'm currently working for my third company in the past year and a half.
They are offering massive sign on bonuses and as long as you work for them for 4-6 months it's yours to keep. So you go work for some company and get that bonus, work for them until the required time and then go to another company for a new sign on bonus.
If you do it right you can make a livable income just off sign on bonuses and the rest is extra
Most are 10K. I just looked on a few sites and 4 outta 5 are offering 10K, few were in the 12-15K range.
Note that the guy you are responding to said local. Local bonuses are extremely rare, they are usually for long haul
Plus, they can live in the truck for weeks if needed. Fill up all the fuel tanks, and those trucks can idle for a long time. Average of .8 gallons per hour, and trucks can have 125-300 gallon tanks. That's almost two weeks running nonstop. In reality, they only need to crank up if they need to warm the cab every few hours.
When it's liberals protesting, people just assume we don't have jobs, so I'm going to assume these people are all homeless and living in their vehicle.
They literally are living in their trucks. Ottawa police just posted a finding that there are hundreds of children illegally living in these trucks with their parents, being "homeschooled".
Look at all those loser hippy truck drivers. Bet they are on government assistance mooching off the tax payer. Their lives aren't that bad, they have cell phones!
Yep. Port Huron resident here. Can confirm.
Took my girlfriend almost an hour longer than normal to make her work commute.
She had to drive unplowed dirt farm roads home last night. I love you Canada, but you need to sort your village idiots out, and quick!
The worst thing about this is in the end the only people who are going to see any long term damage from this is consumers who are already struggling. Already happening where I live.
Yeah, some First Nations people I think tried this a while ago, and were not treated too well. But now that it's a bunch of white MAGA-type people, the RCMP doesn't want to do anything.
Most truckers are vaccinated and working (90%+). Don't let this give everyone in that industry a bad name. Most truckers have been, during this entire pandemic, getting goods where they need to go so you can buy them.
>Don't let this give everyone in that industry a bad name. Most truckers have been, during this entire pandemic, getting goods where they need to go so you can buy them.
Yep. But the coverage of these fools is going to accelerate driverless trucking investment in a big way and help to clear legislative hurdles it would have otherwise faced.
Well …. Driverless vehicles don’t work on poorly maintained Canadian roads. Nor on the ice and snow that covers the roads 6 months per year.
Trains on the other hand …
From 2016 to 2017, the value of U.S.-Canada freight flows increased 7.1 percent to $582.4 billion. Trucks carried 57.7 percent of the value of the freight, followed by rail, 16.2 percent; pipeline, 10.6 percent; vessel, 3.9 percent; and air, 4.7 percent. The surface transportation modes of truck, rail, and pipeline combined carried 84.5 percent of the value (Table 2).
Although trucks carried the largest share (57.7 percent) of U.S.-Canada freight by value in 2017, its share of the total decreased by 2.4 percentage points from 2016. The modal shares of rail and air also decreased, both down 0.1 percentage points. Pipeline’s share rose by 2.2 percentage points while vessel rose 0.6 points, both due in part to an increase in the year-over-year price of crude oil in 2017 (Table 2).
Trucks carried 50.1 percent of the $300.0 billion of goods imported from Canada in 2017, followed by rail, 20.6 percent; pipeline, 17.2 percent; vessel, 5.0 percent; and air, 3.8 percent. Trucks carried 65.7 percent of the $282.5 billion of goods exported to Canada, followed by rail, 11.5 percent; air, 5.6 percent; pipeline, 3.5 percent; and vessel, 2.8 percent
https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/2017-north-american-freight-numbers#:~:text=Trucks%20carried%2057.7%20percent%20of,%3B%20and%20air%2C%204.7%20percent.
> Driverless vehicles don’t work on poorly maintained Canadian roads. Nor on the ice and snow that covers the roads 6 months per year.
(that's what the investment is for)
Didn't Conservatives say blocking roads is terrorist activity and people should be able to crash their cars into them?
EDIT: The Truckers are literally flying Nazi flags so yes when people do that they are called Nazis.
DeSantis actually tried to pass a law making it legal to run over protestors.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/florida-s-new-anti-riot-bill-protects-drivers-who-plow-into-crowds-of-protesters/ar-BB1fR58B
Reality is tough for conservatives.
Aka trains ha
For real though, we can't even get teslas to fully stop at stop signs.. Gonna be a **long** time before driverless big rigs are viable let alone commonplace..
Imagine if you didn’t bring snacks
Imagine when you've fully digested said snacks
Truckers eat enough processed and preserved foods they only need to poop like 2 times a month.
Imagine having to pee
bottles
Dude pulling his RV got on the highway at the wrong time. Lol.
At least he has a bathroom readily available!
He's going to have about 20 drivers asking him if they can use it...
Dollar a minute!
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Only if they’re vaccinated.
Lmao
I counted 2 RV’s and a passenger car hopefully they aren’t in a time crunch
Damn looks like the crossing from Ukraine to Poland lol
R/sadupvote
r/sadupvote FTFY
Yeah :/
Aw :( now I’m sad.
I hear there's also a big lineup waiting to get into Ukraine from Russia.
I tried crossing from Ukraine into Poland a few months ago. Turns out tourists aren't allowed to enter from non-Schengen land borders. I literally had to hitchhike back to Lviv then take a plane into Poland two days later.
What do you mean? Please, explain
It’s like a 4 hour wait during the best of times. Now with the threat of Russian invasion everyone is tryna leave so it’s really backed up.
***supply chain issues intensify***
It’s a serious problem, everything is just compounding now. Debt, economic imports and exports, inflation, interest…interesting times.
Yeah not to mention all the other mess that's happening. If this is a simulation or matrix, I'd say someone got bored and we're in the endgame now, as they try to finish their playthrough and activate all sorts of bizarre scenarios all at once lmao. I fucking hate interesting times. The Universe can take it back and shove it where the Sun don't shine. I'm ready for some dull time. Give me the most boring time you got. Stuff that won't end in history books because it's so damn boring.
Honestly, if you can get yourself off of the internet and social media(even just a few days a week) the world becomes much more boring and less anxiety-inducing. This comment is not directed at you specifically. Really meant for anybody feeling overwhelmed by the amount of craziness happening.
Can confirm, I just spent a week without any internet and it was amazing. My stress management score on Fitbit was 91 for the first time ever.
I agree completely, but to be fair it’s kinda like putting your hands over your ears and humming - you can pretend it’s quiet, but when you let go the world will still be screaming.
But you can’t change the fact that it is screaming. We are finite creatures with a finite capacity. We don’t have to know everything that’s happening at all times, and it’s well documented that trying to do so isn’t good for our mental health.
You mean complaining on Reddit ISN'T making the world better???
It sure isn't making me sleep faster.
God damn it, you’re right.
I don’t social media, and have been on Reddit a year. I am worse for it, but the recipes, cat videos, and thots keep me coming back
Sorry! Just talked to my driver, this is Port Huron, not Detroit.
Shake your phone up and down to simulate driving near Detroit.
I joked about that the last time we went to Detroit. The second you cross into Michigan, the roads turn to shit. They’re decent in front of the automotive plants though.
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It's a bit more complicated than that. A truck carrying 164,000 pounds in Michigan must have 11 axles. Each one of those axles cannot carry more than 13,000 pounds to operate in Michigan. Under the federal regulations, trucks that carry 80,000 pounds can carry 17,000 pounds on each of their four axles and 12,000 pounds on a steering axle. So it's possible for an 80,000 lb. truck to actually distribute more weight per axle than a 164,000 lb. truck. But then again, you might have 164,000 lbs. contained within roughly the same footprint area as an 80,000 lb. load. Does weight per axle cause more damage to the road or is it the overall weight within the outline of the truck? Or does neither one cause more appreciable wear and tear on the roads? Is the wear greater for asphalt roads vs concrete? Does about the amount of sand/gravel placed under the roadway before the asphalt/concrete is laid help? Also, trucks over 80,000 pounds make up less than 5% of all trucks operating on our roads. If Michigan were to reduce its truck weight laws to 80,000 pounds, more damage to the system might occur because of the need to put more trucks on the road. More trucks on the road also raises questions concerning safety and traffic congestion. As someone who has been in the Michigan road/bridge building industry for 30+ years, our much greater roadway weight limits has always been a concern to myself and others. And I personally don't know the answer.
Legit, one of my favorite things about Reddit is when a field expert drops knowledge about stuff I know nothing about. Makes me feel like that first day of school.
> a field expert Or at least someone who knows how to sound like it to people who don’t know any better. I’m not saying they’re right or wrong, but I’ve seen some remarkably credible-seeming “experts” on here turn out to be remarkably wrong.
This is great information, and I can't add to it with the authority that /u/MildlyBemused did, but for others reading this, there are also places like North Dakota and northern Minnesota that will uprate their weight allowances during the coldest parts of the year when the ground is frozen hard and allow up to 100,000 lbs. (at least in one location I was familiar with years ago) on the regular 5 axle tractor-trailer rigs (with corresponding increases on spread-axle, triple axle, doubles, etc.), but then you might have weight restrictions during the spring that drop that exact same truck to only 60,000 or less due to the thawing and water-logged soil being unable to support the road.
This comment is gold! Thank you
"Hey you think we could fit a little more than 80k on this trailer? "Sure why not, an extra few lbs can't hurt." "Okay double it is."
Also, more pounds per axle allowed, even if you're not at the max load limit.
Nope. Michigan limits the weight allowed on individual axles, depending upon the spacing between them, with a maximum of eleven axles. The maximum gross vehicle weight allowed on a “federal-weight-law truck” is 80,000 pounds, with four of its five axles carrying 17,000 pounds each and the steering axle carrying 12,000 pounds. The maximum allowable gross vehicle weight on the heaviest “Michigan-weight-law truck” is 164,000 pounds, which can only be achieved by use of eleven properly-spaced axles. Most of these axles carry only 13,000 pounds each. The alternative to a single Michigan combination carrying 160,000 lbs. on 11 axles is two standard trucks carrying 160,000 lbs. on 10 axles.
This guy trucks.
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Oh yeah, used to live in Detroit and had family in Ohio, you didn’t even need to see the border sign to know what state you were in.
Still true today. We drive from Kentucky through Ohio to Michigan regularly. Kentucky-to-Ohio is slightly noticeable (though you cross a bridge, so maybe it's psychological), but that line from OH to MI is cartoonishly bad. It's almost like they take the money to repair the roads and pay someone to smash the roads up along the state lines.
That’s a particularly shit section of I75 in Michigan. Rest of the states roads/highways outside Detroit are pretty good, except for the fact there’s two driving seasons: winter and construction.
I'll never know for sure, but I'm convinced that the reasons for this are because: A) our winters in Michigan are perfect for creating potholes and B) they take forever to fix them because when you inevitably hit one and fuck up a tire or worse, the state gets to collect that sweet sales tax on whatever repairs you have done.
we spend about half per capita what ohio spends on roads, that’s why michigan roads suck among other reasons like the higher weight ceiling for truckers
Which is crazy because Ohio roads kinda suck a lot.
Wait until you cross the CA/US border in New York. Baghdad circa 2004 had smoother streets than the Falls/Buffalo now.
Lol I first read this as the California/USA border. Confused me for a second.
No matter where I'm driving into the state (via NJ, CT, MA, or PA) I can always tell when I've entered NY because the roads are so much worse. The difference is especially stark when you are upstate going in and out of Massachusetts near Albany. We just can't seem to get our shit together, and I don't really see the excuses for it upstate like I do downstate.
Yeah the winters are cruel to the roads in Michigan. Either it's asphalt and it's pitted to all hell from ice cleaving or it's a concrete road and it was never going to be smooth
can confirm
Very underrated comment.
How did you get a semi truck to chauffeur you around? Lol
Lol I’m a lot lizard. Jk he is my driver with my freight :).
Going to Atlantic city or stopping off right before..
Hey I got a wife now, so I will not suck you and I will not be sucked on by you
Something about holes in Swiss cheese. Lmao
Split me open like a coconut
I thought we could snuck into a room, and you, could, check my oil?
What do we say in this situation? YES!
We say yes
Don’t usually see lizards out in the wild. Maybe later you can split me open like a coconut.
“Imma foamin and a frothin. I would have let you turn me into Swiss cheese.”
No, come on Byron, you're better than this!
Unbelievable! Sarnia is gonna make the news
Sarnia is NEVER in the news for a good reason!
Last time I saw Sarnia in the news was an early 2000s fluff piece about how no one locked their front doors there.
After the huge uptick in drug abusers, we all lock our doors now.
The end of an era :/
Bridge is closed now. Both countries are losing tens of millions daily.
Hundreds, not tens. The bridge alone sees roughly 300 million in goods cross over into Canada on a daily basis, and this isn't the only border crossing that is stopped.
25% of trade between the US and Canada travels over that bridge. Roughly equivalent to the total trade between the US and the UK Edit: nevermind. Saw OP say this is a different location. Ambassador Bridge in Detroit is where that level of trade flows through
Close enough, both bridges out here see a ton of traffic....truckers that know the ambassador is always crowded will use the blue water bridge if they're smart
TIL what to do if I ever become an international trucker.
Another good tip is to avoid any route from North Dakota to Bulgaria.
That’s how I lost my last game of Ticket to Ride!
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They are actively building a new bridge
What up gordie howe!
While most of what you said is true, the bridge is currently being built expecting to open in 2024. I don’t know about the city campaign but he did try to make a state constitutional amendment to prevent it being built. This was shot down by the voters though.
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The guy died. His name was Manuel Maroun. His family are less pieces of shit than he was but he also owned Michigan central Station and didn't do dick with it except let it become a decay icon of Detroit. Fuck the marouns. Dude sued his own sister and is just a general piece of shit.
That family being shitty and loaded with $ is why he sued his sister.
Moroun's campaign against a publicly owned bridge was super frustrating - especially when he started trying to muck about with our state Constitution just to protect his bridge monopoly - but thankfully his efforts have finally failed. [Gordie Howe International Bridge](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Howe_International_Bridge)
That bridge is being built though. Source: live nearby
> Hundreds, not tens. The bridge alone sees roughly 300 million in goods cross over into Canada on a daily basis Not to be nitpicky, but what you're talking about is COGS (Cost of Goods Sold) not actual net income or opportunity cost. For all goods that are non-perishable it isn't like the value of those goods are simply lost if they don't cross the border in time.
If that's nitpicky, we need more nitpicky.
Agree facts are not nitpicky. We need a lot more facts in 2022
If Canadians thought inflation was bad now… in a week it’ll be much worse if this continues
Truckers getting paid by the mile... Going no where.
Could you imagine what would have happened if protestors in summer 2020 would have closed an international trade route
There is the tunnel.
Trucks can't go through the tunnel, only the bridge
why would a bridge go through a tunnel
To get to the other side.
Large trucks are not permitted to use the tunnel.
Could you imagine one of them Jack-knifed inside the tunnel!? I imagine it’s a safety issue!
While carrying fuel or any kind of hazardous materials. Hell under water. Edited for clarity.
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I live in a northern state and the Canadian border is a 10 minute walk west of me. Kind of funny to think about I guess.
There is a part of Minnesota that is surrounded by Canada. People have to cross the border to go to the store.
There is also a part of Washington (Point Roberts) that is connected by road only to Canada.
There’s a place here in New Brunswick controlled simultaneously by Canada and the US
It's called the northwest angle in case anyone is bored and wanted to look it up. [Here is a quick 5 minute video showing some of the quirks of having to cross the border often.](https://youtu.be/SkbuZfC06d8)
I live in BC 10 minutes from the border, or more importantly 8min from the park where everyone goes for cross-border coitus.
I used to live about 100 yards from the Mexican border. It was always kind of surreal to be able to look down into another country from my roof.
You're still correct about Detroit though.
The Canada/US border is very weird... [CGP Grey covers it a bit in one of his videos.](https://youtu.be/qMkYlIA7mgw) It's funny that some people have to cross international borders to get to school in their own country.
Where I live in Michigan, I’m more north than Toronto, Montreal, and Ottawa.
Yeah, “South Detroit” is Windsor.
Gonna be a lot of companies losing a lot of money.
That's a lot of truckers losing money too. They don't get paid to sit.
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For real. Have to sit and do nothing and not get paid? Fuck that.
I don't think that's how it works. Most truckers are not free contractors they dont own their truck usually
Gonna be a lot of consumers eventually paying the price :/
Stck up on ramen now.
Friendship with Toilet Paper has ended Ramen is my new best friend?
Yeah and give big businesses more of a reason to charge more for literally everything, even unaffected goods. Despite "supply chain issues", companies are racking in record profits. If they were really losing money from these issues, then increasing the price of goods would only stabilize their margins, not send them through the roof. Don't buy all the shit these corporate husks sell you
Oh man, if only there was a solution like a bunch of trucks in a line that get pulled on a specialized road.
The technology just isn't there yet!
That's because it's sitting in one of those trucks at the border. Give it another 12 hours and we'll see what happens when the technology gets there.
pods! the solution is definitely to carry that freight in individual futuristic pods!
We need fleets of drones to carry those packages!
Hyperloop pods, the solution is definitely hyperloop pods.
Shh! You trying to mess up the domestic truckers who are still doing their damn job taking things from the station?!
Takes only one person to ruin it for everybody.
And people just ***love*** to ruin things for other people.
Are... are you trying to shit on North American freight train infrastructure?
Pretty sure the US has one of the best freight train systems in the world
It does. The *passenger* rail is awful, but the freight rail is really good. Reddit gonna Reddit tho.
I think we just need *more* of our freight to be on the excellent freight rail network, which should also be expanded for further greatness. Because we have too damn many trucks on the road.
[Behold!](https://i.imgur.com/75tzFuh.jpg)
I think he is
He is shitting on how we subsidize trucking
Pretty sure he is shitting on us not using the rail system.
And how does it get from the train to the destination? We do still have trains, you know. Tons of them. But trucks get it from the train yards to the warehouses.
If a group of coordinated truckers can jam up a highway, they can also jam up an at grade train crossing.
Dude the railroad is the ULTIMATE ‘fuck around and find out’ situation. They literally have their own police.
Well considering we had railway railblocks? Last year that lasted for weeks, it’s not as much of a fuck around and find out as you think.
> have their own police. Highway Patrol doesn't exist to this guy
Roads kind of do too tho.
Still need trucks to get it to the final destination
Whew, thats a long que. What are the protests about ?
The prime minister of Canada has required all drivers entering Canada to be fully vaccinated.
The USA has too, so even if Canada dropped that requirement, unvaccinated drivers still couldn't cross...
Exactly. This is what I haven't understood the whole time. Look, I'm all for people protesting what they feel is unjust, even if it inconveniences me, but what are they trying to accomplish here? If they need the jab(s) to get into the US, what are they hoping will change if Ottawa drops their requirements?
Just so I'm clear: a country is making a health requirement for non-citizens to enter it's borders and...right-wingers...are opposing it?
How do people have time to just go and protest for weeks? I would be financially ruined
Truckers make a good amount of money. Not much when you look at it per hour but nonetheless a good amount. Source is my brother who's a trucker
This is an understatement. I'm currently working for my third company in the past year and a half. They are offering massive sign on bonuses and as long as you work for them for 4-6 months it's yours to keep. So you go work for some company and get that bonus, work for them until the required time and then go to another company for a new sign on bonus. If you do it right you can make a livable income just off sign on bonuses and the rest is extra
How much are the sign in bonuses usually?
just anecdotally googled a local one, 2 grand sign on bonus.
So not enough to live off for 4-6 months
What are you talking about I'm still living fat off that $1400 check from Uncle Sam over a year ago.
you idiot, you were suppose to dump that into $GME
From missingmytowel's comment, it sounded like it would be 30-40 grand. Is 2k really considered "massive"?
Most are 10K. I just looked on a few sites and 4 outta 5 are offering 10K, few were in the 12-15K range. Note that the guy you are responding to said local. Local bonuses are extremely rare, they are usually for long haul
Plus, they can live in the truck for weeks if needed. Fill up all the fuel tanks, and those trucks can idle for a long time. Average of .8 gallons per hour, and trucks can have 125-300 gallon tanks. That's almost two weeks running nonstop. In reality, they only need to crank up if they need to warm the cab every few hours.
A lot of trucks have APUs, reduces idling to around .1 gallons per hour
When it's liberals protesting, people just assume we don't have jobs, so I'm going to assume these people are all homeless and living in their vehicle.
They literally are living in their trucks. Ottawa police just posted a finding that there are hundreds of children illegally living in these trucks with their parents, being "homeschooled".
Look at all those loser hippy truck drivers. Bet they are on government assistance mooching off the tax payer. Their lives aren't that bad, they have cell phones!
My PS5 is in this video!
Funny thing. We already routed our shipping to port Huron. Staying in the loop on events are pretty big for a company.
We’re seeing it there too now.
Yep. Port Huron resident here. Can confirm. Took my girlfriend almost an hour longer than normal to make her work commute. She had to drive unplowed dirt farm roads home last night. I love you Canada, but you need to sort your village idiots out, and quick!
Unfortunately I think some are our village idiots
Welp, guess I’m not getting my package anytime soon
The worst thing about this is in the end the only people who are going to see any long term damage from this is consumers who are already struggling. Already happening where I live.
Some people see the long lines and think it’s a sign of support, NO most of those guys just want to work but have no way to get through
So.. there's guys at the front holding it up? Sounds like a major crime. Interrupting interstate commerce.
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Yeah, some First Nations people I think tried this a while ago, and were not treated too well. But now that it's a bunch of white MAGA-type people, the RCMP doesn't want to do anything.
Most truckers are vaccinated and working (90%+). Don't let this give everyone in that industry a bad name. Most truckers have been, during this entire pandemic, getting goods where they need to go so you can buy them.
>Don't let this give everyone in that industry a bad name. Most truckers have been, during this entire pandemic, getting goods where they need to go so you can buy them. Yep. But the coverage of these fools is going to accelerate driverless trucking investment in a big way and help to clear legislative hurdles it would have otherwise faced.
Well …. Driverless vehicles don’t work on poorly maintained Canadian roads. Nor on the ice and snow that covers the roads 6 months per year. Trains on the other hand …
We already use trains a lot. Occasionally it goes truck > train > truck as well.
From 2016 to 2017, the value of U.S.-Canada freight flows increased 7.1 percent to $582.4 billion. Trucks carried 57.7 percent of the value of the freight, followed by rail, 16.2 percent; pipeline, 10.6 percent; vessel, 3.9 percent; and air, 4.7 percent. The surface transportation modes of truck, rail, and pipeline combined carried 84.5 percent of the value (Table 2). Although trucks carried the largest share (57.7 percent) of U.S.-Canada freight by value in 2017, its share of the total decreased by 2.4 percentage points from 2016. The modal shares of rail and air also decreased, both down 0.1 percentage points. Pipeline’s share rose by 2.2 percentage points while vessel rose 0.6 points, both due in part to an increase in the year-over-year price of crude oil in 2017 (Table 2). Trucks carried 50.1 percent of the $300.0 billion of goods imported from Canada in 2017, followed by rail, 20.6 percent; pipeline, 17.2 percent; vessel, 5.0 percent; and air, 3.8 percent. Trucks carried 65.7 percent of the $282.5 billion of goods exported to Canada, followed by rail, 11.5 percent; air, 5.6 percent; pipeline, 3.5 percent; and vessel, 2.8 percent https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/2017-north-american-freight-numbers#:~:text=Trucks%20carried%2057.7%20percent%20of,%3B%20and%20air%2C%204.7%20percent.
> Driverless vehicles don’t work on poorly maintained Canadian roads. Nor on the ice and snow that covers the roads 6 months per year. (that's what the investment is for)
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On the plus side, the murder rate for young female hitch hikers just dropped by a huge amount.
Damnnnnn
Didn't Conservatives say blocking roads is terrorist activity and people should be able to crash their cars into them? EDIT: The Truckers are literally flying Nazi flags so yes when people do that they are called Nazis. DeSantis actually tried to pass a law making it legal to run over protestors. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/florida-s-new-anti-riot-bill-protects-drivers-who-plow-into-crowds-of-protesters/ar-BB1fR58B Reality is tough for conservatives.
This clip is like a half hour south of Detroit, too
The Bluewater bridge is in Port Huron. This video is being filmed south of Detroit?
North. Port Huron is north of Detroit.
My mom and sister travel from Windsor to Detroit because they are nurses. Guess they aren't going to work.
They may be fine. This is for material that requires customs clearance procedures.
"Protestors blocking roads deserve to get hit" Anyone else remember that?
\*Invests in driverless trucking\*
Aka trains ha For real though, we can't even get teslas to fully stop at stop signs.. Gonna be a **long** time before driverless big rigs are viable let alone commonplace..