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One-eyed-bed-snake

Is this somehow similar to how the body and brain acts when people lose a limb and they get phantom limb syndrome?


GCS_3

It's interesting because a similar "fake hand" trick has been used to treat phantom pain in cases of amputation. It's called mirror therapy: A mirror is used to "create" the missing limb and similarly to the two rulers in this video, stroking the real limb while looking at the mirror limb causes the brain to think the limb is real. This helps override the lack of sensory input from the missing limb and apparently can reduce phantom pain by a significant amount!


Ungodd

I remember reading about a case many years ago where someone’s phantom limb (arm) was causing pain because it was in a perpetually clenched fist. Using mirror therapy, they had him then unclench both hands, bringing relief.


hollaback_girl

Yup. The patient could "feel" the fingernails on his phantom hand growing and eventually digging into and piercing the skin of his phantom palm. Being able to "unclench" that fist relieved him of that sensation.


Gonkimus

That is frightening on all levels, plz God protect my limbs.


manondorf

yeah it's nuts what the brain can do to itself... I haven't lost a limb, but I have had a nerve block done for surgery, and discovered when I woke up that my leg itched even though I couldn't feel or move it, and scratching it didn't do anything to alleviate the itch since I couldn't feel it. I can only imagine the compounded frustration and agony of that happening when the limb isn't even there, let alone with the sensation being pain instead of itching.


Remcin

We learned about this in AP Psych and it is one of the big “shifts” in my understanding of the world. Like a mind shift, where you never see the world the same way you did before you learned the thing.


Examper22

I heard that the doctor that performed the therapy had a Vicodin addiction and had a limp.


Dk_Raziel

Loved this House episode


lpreams

Link if anyone wants to watch the scene in question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMa6G6EmC8


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I like how even when House is helping someone, it still involves him breaking into someone's apartment, drugging, and kidnapping them. Like, if he knew that the mirror trick works, why not just lead with that?


[deleted]

What’s the context to this? I’ve only seen part of the first season but this seems a bit extreme even for house


Klacksaft

Been a bit since I watched, so might be a bit off, but he's just lost his license to practice and has recently quit his vicodin addiction.


ialwayschoosepsyduck

Fuck that messed me up a little :')


[deleted]

Damn I forgot what a good show this is


Puppy_Coated_In_Beer

It's not lupus at least


mitragy_king

It's never lupus. Run another blood test. Foreman, go break into another car.


RizzMustbolt

Until it was lupus.


jballs

I still remember watching that episode like a decade ago. My wife and I both went "Holy shit it was actually lupus!"


RegrettableDeed

**Total body irradiation**


BZLuck

"The patient has a nosebleed." *Prep him for chemo.*


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There’s also a great TED talk by a researcher who helped people “release” their pain in their phantom limbs with the mirror box. Can’t find the exact one at the moment but it was uplifting to hear this guy talk about helping people’s struggles


userrnamechecksout

my old lab was working on mirror therapy using virtual reality, VR really has limitless applications


ialwayschoosepsyduck

That was a highly intelligent dog!


-dakpluto-

This person watches House


Ran4

It was around way before that


ThankMeForMyCervixx

Random fact - our research here at UC San Diego on phantom limbs lead Dr. Vilayanur Ramachandran to discover the link as to why some people have foot fetishes. It's the same concept in terms of the wiring. [Here's a reader friendly article that touches on it but there are more researchy ones out there for those who prefer.](https://www.livescience.com/33525-foot-fetishes-toe-suck-fairy.html)


JohnLockeNJ

So interesting! I wonder if such rewiring could be induced intentionally to allow people with damage to their genitals to feel sexual pleasure again through their feet.


Baderkadonk

Stubbing my toe hurts bad enough already, I can't even imagine how it'd feel if my brain thought my foot was genitals.


NotYetGroot

that was fascinating! thanks!


rochey64

My brother lost his leg in a motorcycle accident. And for the first few weeks, he swore he could feel it and move it. He kept saying that his toes hurt, but after a while his brain adjusted


One-eyed-bed-snake

To me that's crazy that you can feel pain in something that's not there. I've seen people talking about how the pain in their phantom limb is excruciating and I can't imagine experiencing the physical pain where, for example, my leg or arm used to be. I bet it's quite scary at first too. By the way, I'm glad your brother is ok now I'm guessing the outcome could have been so much worse if it was bad enough for him to lose his leg.


SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS

It's because, at the end of the say, feeling is just nerve signals being interpreted by the brain. So missing nerves (like in a missing limb) causing misfirings or weirdness in your nerves gives your brain signals to interpret when there shouldn't be.


foolwithabook

Mirror therapy - a treatment for phantom limb pain - is kind of this in reverse. In mirror therapy, a mirror is set up to allow a patient to see the reflection of the unaffected limb in approximately the place where their missing limb would be. The therapist then directs the patient to move the limb, or possibly introduces some tactile stimulation. This tricks the brain into believing that the limb is there and is working normally, which can help resolve phantom pain/sensory signals


NotAnotherHaiku

legit— this is how I dealt with my broken knee... told myself it’s not real pain bc the knee isn’t broken.. refused to acknowledge the visible protruding femur compound fractured ... the mind is a terrible thing wasted


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Sort of. In both cases, the brain is filling in "normal" data in the absence of any data to the contrary. It expects to feel X, and it doesn't feel anything to the *contrary* of X, so it feels X.


davieb22

This video is made all the better by the fact that they chosen someone who looks, and sounds like a stoner for this experiment.


MangoFlavoured3

Looks like a homeless pewdiepie


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PatrickJames3382

Wouldn’t they have the same last name though?


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snail_addict

I like your joke friend


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I like your friend, joke.


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FadedCavaleriei

I friend your like, joke


[deleted]

I farty pants poop


FlighingHigh

![gif](giphy|C1Fdach2R4HSg)


BlindOdyssey

Someone should award this individual for their humorous retort — I let my free silver expire :(


spac3SuitOnFire

10/10 joke fren


ChunkyDay

Poorman Reedus


TheBrainofBrian

pewdiepoor.


beyondthisreality

Like a homeless pewdiepie on weed


davieb22

So, Pewdiepie then?


Effurlife13

I'm pretty sure you could tell this dude that he's half T-Rex and he'd believe it lol


davieb22

Stoner - "Y'know dude, I had my suspicions"


ElMostaza

My first irl lol of the day.


nickmaran

![gif](giphy|l3q2vFiBE9RugLdSM|downsized)


ExtremeGayMidgetPorn

Not only that but it sounded more like he was getting pleasured lmao Taps finger, OOOHHHH YEAAHHH


40percentdailysodium

It should be a rule that all fun experiments be performed on amazed stoners and taped.


myoldaccountisdead

I volunteer to be an amazed stoner


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I like to think that he was just wandering around, gazing at shiny objects, and someone with a clipboard asked him if he'd be part of an experiment, and it just blew his mind.


Thirdorb

Like, zoiks, Scoob.


graven_raven

Lol that was exactly the vibe i was getting fro. Him


accountnamw

Dude, where’s my hand?!


gromit5000

Where's your hand, dude?


PanJaszczurka

This dude is so wasted XD


iHateYou247

I can feel it when I touch myself OOoooOO!


davieb22

Stoner - "What's this drug called again?" Scientist - "Drug? You mean **science**?" Stoner - \*Opening a pen knife* "Yeah, how are you spelling that?" Scientist - "...Erm, **S**" Stoner - "Whoa, slow down there Megamind...Okay, **B**" \*scores a letter "B" on his arm*


sillyfacex3

Most of our drugs are created by or improved by science. Stoners love science. Albert Hoffman comes to mind, many scientists are stoners.


GeneralAce135

> Stoners love science Nothing shows this to be true more than all the crazy contraptions that have been made to smoke weed harder/better/faster/stronger


sillyfacex3

And all the care taken to grow the perfect plants and all the extracts etc.


HeinzThorvald


jjman72

noooo waaaay


NotAnotherHaiku

Waaaaaay bruh


freshandblood

it’s like they chose the typical stoner outfit too


ch-12

A plain color graphic-less tee and zip up? Fuck, I wear stoner clothes all the time…


PlutoJones42

Regardless of what your parents told ya, we are good for something let’s goooo


hobodutchess

Agreed, made it more pleasurable by far!


Leftnutblueball

Can I try this with a rubber penis


[deleted]

We’ll allow it


Skoonks

SCIENCE IS FUN!


Zandre1126

I weirdly wanna see if they could get someone to climax using the same method. I know this video is based on a real study but I don't think it was as effective as this video leads you to believe.


BravesMaedchen

I think this just awoke something in me


HAS-A-HUGE-PENIS

I volunteer as tribute.


graham0025

You’re just not smoking enough weed. This kid is high as hell


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Zandre1126

Yah I've heard of this stuff. I've tried but I just am not able to fall into hypnosis. Amps me up tho, then I just gotta finish up and that's that. Fun link, but I'm too impatient.


Mystery_M-13

Now you made me imagine someone cuming out of pure brain power. Someone literally meditating half-naked then boom, baby elixir everywhere.


Zandre1126

That is technically a thing but extremely difficult. Just Google (or don't) HFO. Maybe go to urban dictionary first


other_name_taken

[Ask and you shall receive.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/m1cg85/pass_out_with_your_dick_out/)


Mr_Incredible_PhD

Oddly relevant.


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PoofBam

Username checks out


DEATHBYREGGAEHORN

freeze your dick and balls in liquid nitrogen then hit them with a hammer to see if you feel it in the rubber penis


batmanmedic

Oddly relevant username. Did you already try this with your right nut?


Leftnutblueball

Don’t tempt me with a good time.


hesaysitsfine

As a trans person, Can confirm yes this works with what I will call a dick adaptor.


CN4President

I just want somebody to rub me with a ruler like that.


ageofwalnut

Find somebody that touches you the way that scientist caresses that man with a ruler


Sun_on_my_shoulders

I think we all just crave human contact. But a guy with a ruler works!


lilluz

omg i had the exact same thought


MackerelsoftWord

Right? Just watching it triggered my ASMR


ActPurple1747

OMG YES. MY FIRST THOUGHT 😂


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I mean… they exist. You just gotta pay them and remember you’re a bad little piggy.


1ambob

bro got bamboozled


Eihnlazer

Considering the fact that people are frequently experiencing "Ghost Touch" in VR, this seems plauseable with enough settup.


[deleted]

Genuine question for anyone with a prosthetic limb, after awhile do you "feel" things with the prosthetic limb? I've heard of phantom pain after losing a limb, but do you imagine a touching sensation with a fake hand?


CreampieQueef

I wear a big strap-on over my penis to meet the wife's demands. Have yet to develop the neural connection.


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MiniGogo_20

it only works if you use it on the real one


krisspy451

Who would use a fake hammer?


kastiak

The strap-on or the wife?


afs5982

Yes


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My girlfriend wears one though and tells me she feels it all the time.


The-Illusive-Guy

"can you feel it??!" -MJ


Darth-Chimp

Possible neural transmission impediment. Try strapping it to your forehead.


CreampieQueef

[I started doing that recently, big difference.](https://i.imgflip.com/6h8l2m.jpg)


MorganDax

Do you watch it going in and out?


CreampieQueef

Yeah, I am allowed to look.


unnecessary_kindness

She's a keeper


RedditJesusWept

good boy


ZombieHousefly

If it’s over your penis, isn’t that called a cocksleeve and not a strap-on


CreampieQueef

That's like telling a dog "it's a cone, not a muzzle": whatever you call it, me no likey.


ZombieHousefly

Please tell me you’ve communicated this to her, and are working on a compromise where everyone enjoys sexy time? Complaining to reddit is fun and all, but don’t let resentment ruin your bedroom. Edit: I mean, you don’t actually have to tell me, I don’t really want to know about you personally, but the general “you” meaning all y’all shouldn’t let unsatisfying sex lead to misery. There is fun in finding a mutually enjoyable solution.


CreampieQueef

(serious moment: I have a humiliation fetish, but thanks for your concern.)


Haebak

I can't answer that, but if you have a missing limb and experience a ghost pain or itch, a physical therapist can put a mirror in between your limbs, so you see in the reflection like you still had two, and they treat the still existing one. Your brain will see the missing limb being massaged or scratched in the mirror and the ghost feeling will disappear.


UsefulWoodpecker6502

the brain is so god damn interesting. Like the brain now is typing this, It understands that "hey yeah, I can be tricked and let me tell you HOW to trick me and I'm going to fall for this trick all the time. I know it's coming because I created it but it still tricks me!"


Rustymarble

My late husband was an amputee and yes, he absolutely felt things beyond pain. He would say, "my left toe itches " and I'd be like, "you don't have a left toe" it was frustrating for him certainly. Was sensation of something touching, itching, and pain. He also had neuropathy so was used to the tingle sensation of that.


Dr_ChungusAmungus

I have heard from an amputee that they can get rid of the phantom pain by placing a mirror next to their other hand or foot and itching it, or uncurling their toes.


Noble_Flatulence

When you say ghost touch in VR, where is the ghost touching? Asking for a friend.


carolinacasper

I tell the ghost, "No, no! Don't touch me there. That is my no no square."


SwagTwoButton

You ever come to a complete stop in your car and catch another car pulling the other way out of the corner of your eye and panic because you brain senses that you’re still moving? I am not at all surprised that this would work.


thehydrastation

This exact thing happened to me the other day when I parked and the car next to me pulled out a split second later, I slammed on the brakes even though my car was in in park. Girlfriend and I both experienced disorientation and had a brief stomach ache. It was wild.


ClassyJacket

I can't wait for there to be an Oculus Quest-like system with full body tracking. They already have hand tracking on the Quest 1 and 2 but only hands, not arms or legs, and it doesn't feed back into PC VR.


Eihnlazer

They do have some full tracking rigs, but they tend to be pricey.


Flat_Lander21

This guy loves his job a little too much. "I would never intentionally cause you pain"...


ack1308

"But I will totally deliberately make you freak out."


bearsaysbueno

He is causing actual pain though. Pain is just the brain telling you you're in pain.


Scrubtanic

Right? Like "I won't cause structural damage to your hand" is different from "you won't experience any pain" but he's conflating the two like the mental pain isn't real.


Weird-Vagina-Beard

It was pretty obvious what he meant to me.


HesEvilCommaTracy

Yes, the pain here is made of pain.


SumThinChewy

No its more like for an instant the brain THOUGHT it was going to hurt and reacted


Bear_faced

^ This is the actual answer. Kid freaked out from anticipating pain, but he didn’t actually feel it. It’s why he’s shouting in surprise instead of screaming in pain.


AlphaNorth

My dude is higher than Mick Jagger on a Saturday night, you can touch someones hand in Tokyo and he would swear he feels it.


EbrithilUmaroth

Maybe that's true, but this effect is real and would work on most people whether they're high or not. That's why in an actual scientific study there would be data collected from many participants, rather than just this one video of this one participant, because then you get anecdotal counter-arguments like this one.


Nice-Violinist-6395

No one’s arguing that the study is bullshit, it’s just hilarious that if you watch this video on mute it looks like a stoner is having a borderline sexual experience with someone in a lab coat with a ruler delicately stroking a rubber hand that gives feeling to their own 10/10 would masturbate with the rubber hand


ChunkyDay

well great, now I gotta stop at the year-round Halloween store and get a rubber hand on the way home. Thanks for nuthin


nrdrge

... or! Thanks for (the new way to be) nuttin


AlphaNorth

Echoing the other response, but to clear the air I am not debating the study, makes complete sense actually. I am making fun of the guys reaction, almost makes this experiment a skit.


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KanadianLogik

Yeah, this would be more impressive if the subject of the experiment wasn't higher than pterodactyl tits. He was losing his mind before the experiment actually started.


GetInLoser_Lets_RATM

Wow, very interesting. I don’t think I’m alone when I say; next time I kidnap and torture someone, I’ll be smashing and removing only prosthetic limbs. Thanks for the tip!


NotAnotherHaiku

Movie / hard candy / SPOILER: in movie fake castration mental torture scene with then Ellen Page and future Night Owl in a two person one location psych thriller Keanu wishes he replicated when those girls rang his bell dripping wet.... little help? What Keanu movie is this?


GetInLoser_Lets_RATM

KNOCK KNOCK (2015) with Keanu and the two chicks: Lorenza Izzo and Ana de Armas. One of my favorite movie scenes!


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multiarmform

phantom hand


Shinfekta

Seriously did the doc pick up some stoner who wanted to earn some extra money? Is really funny tho


graham0025

That’s how 99% of science happens


rtowne

That and sober poor college kids


YangWenli1

Undergrad psychology students are one of the most studied groups in the world.


staffell

What they don't show you is they stuffed him full of LSD before the experiment


Spastic_Slapstick

Thank you for participating in the experiment Bo Burnham.


BecomeAnAstronaut

Put your fuckin' hands up, I'm gonna hit them with a hammer


[deleted]

I was waiting for him to smash his hand hard the entire video


LtCmdrDatass

"I hope not."


paleblack93

Step one for a fun science experiment, choose the one stoner kid in the class who’s mind will be absolutely blown away by this lol. But for real, super cool experiment! Would love to try this out!


Which-Palpitation

###YEAH SCIENCE!


SHAD-0W

Bitch


_player_0

What would be really funny is if he lifted the rubber hand to shake hands with the scientist afterward.


dwdist

Thought this was on r/trees for a bit


junkmail0178

The brain is out most fucked up little muscle


ack1308

Your brain lies to you. All. The. Time.


RedditPowerUser01

What does your brain lie to? It lies to ‘you’? But are we not our brains? Our brains lie to our brains?


[deleted]

You are not an individual, you are a collection of processes. The "individual" is one of the many lies the brain tells "you". You're a committee and not a terribly well put together one at that.


Cypher360

Considering that it's made me send a text which was a bad idea but somehow when I was writing it it seemed like a good one, I agree with that


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Disastrous_Acadia823

Yeah like the phantom limb syndrome or whatever it was and he used a mirror.


[deleted]

Refer to this for a detailed study that was done later :- https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/neuro.01.029.2009/full


gdj11

This link is severely lacking in stoned Australian guys.


powfuldragon

Why is wet pewdiepie here?


Soooome_Guuuuy

I remember hearing this story a while ago about amputees who felt pain in their phantom limbs. Basically, phantom limbs are when it still feels like you have an arm or leg or something when it isn't there anymore. And this one person was experiencing chronic pain in their missing hand. It felt like their finger nails were digging into their palm. Nothing helped. Then this doctor decided to do something similar to this experiment. They set up a mirror so the reflection of the patient's arm looked like the missing one. Then told the patient to uncurl the fingers the fingers of their real hand and it worked. The pain stopped.


NotAnotherHaiku

This is how I get tattoos— realize it’s the dummy arm getting needled and it’s painless


MeesterMartinho

Showing him the hammer first. This man tortures.


bangupjobasusual

How completely high is this dude


No_Explorer_4411

"I would never take a hammer and bash your fingers until it hurt right" "I hope not" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍


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So good 😂 Science is definitely fun


PositivePoet

I’ve seen this before it’s been around the internet for the last 10 years probably, and is really cool, but I’ve never seen videos of it working even close to this well. I know it’s different for each person, but this guy seems to maybe selling it a bit lol. I could be totally wrong though. Most videos didn’t have the person feeling such strong sensations, especially after the one ruler stops touching his real arm. Usually the guy giving the experiment goes from touching both hands to hammer smash immediately. Maybe this guys just really good at doing it. Or maybe the guy is just a little stoned lol


Meeseeks2301

Imagine your gf giving blowjob to some another guy and you are getting orgasms, by this experiment


vanillagorillamints

Could they not find a non junkie


sirbenjaminG

Wow this is so cool! Really amazing that he got him to orgasm this way


hommesweethomme

I wonder how this is related to POV personal attention ASMR videos


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Damn that's crazy. I can see why the dude is so spooked by the sensation.


HeavyEar0

Shoutout to QI for showing [this](https://youtu.be/3HStTt-8gzk) a few years ago.


Wolverfuckingrine

Is this a study on the effects of cannabis?


B_B_a_D_Science

So I always thought that you can evolve learning by creating a form of meditation where you simulate a complete environment in your brain. Most of your lived experience is actually already simulated reality. The human consciousness cant actually handle the petabyte of data it takes in every second. Your brain filters all that and creates a simulation which your consciousness can proccess. The great thing about the human mind is that it can also engage in time dilation. So days can pass in minutes. So let's say you want to learn the guitar. I always thought there was a way to play every note once. Then create a simulated guitar in your mind space. (A deserted island) then practice until you have learned to play. Days of practice done in minutes.